Did PMC BRONZE Bring Home The GOLD?....223 Soft Point AR-15 AMMO Test!
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2023
- Testing some PMC Bronze .223 soft point ammo from different barrel lengths. Are they a good choice for hunting or self-defense? Heavy clothing ballistic gel test using Palmetto State Armory and Bear Creel Arsenal.
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Words can't describe how great that new Doppler Radar is for the tests going foward! That can't be cheap, but it will verify alot of devience in total speeds, from the muzzle, to the target. 😎👍
Yeah, getting the actual gel round info will be very nice.
I’ve always felt lead tip bullets were under rated. I hunted with them for years and years with great success. The lead tip may deform a bit going up the ramp but within 100 yards and in it shouldn’t affect accuracy much. Love your new radar. It’s going to give us a lot more info. I see more rifle tests coming. Thanks.
Thank you sir.😎👊
I totally agree. I’ve been using pointed soft points for years with great success.
I love semi jacketed soft points in my 44 mag lever gun
If anyone is unsure who Paul Howe is, feel free to look up his resume.
On his website his rifle ammo recommendations were simply “Soft points for people, bonded for barriers”
I’d say that’s a pretty good endorsement for JSP ammo 😂
I'm a bit confused by the comment about lead tips being under rated. Lead tips or soft points have been the standard hunting bullet since the 1890s and smokeless powder. Designs features have varied a bit but a jacket and lead core exposed at the point was the basis of most hunting bullets for the last 125 or so years.
I love these 223/556 tests! Those did great. That fancy new chrono is awesome. It’s great to know the actual impact velocity and ft/lbs. The best jelly tests on RUclips just got better. Cool new addition to the range equipment. 👍🇺🇸
Thank you sir. Got another .223 test coming in a couple videos.😎👊
We shoot 1 gallon water jugs every weekend in my Ruger Mini-14 and I use the PMC Bronze 55gr soft points and they put on a great show. I get as much jug splodin’ energy as I get with .30-30 and 7.62x39 soft points. Very happy with these soft points from PMC!
Been using PMC for years now, never had
ammunition related issues ever. South Korean origin I believe, great ammunition
Yep. I run a lot of this and the XTac.😎👊
Looks to be a heck of a good round. I wouldn't be scared to use them on my Texas deer hunt
Yessir 💥🦌💥
Are you interested in 350 legend at all i hunt texas too and im considering a 350 legend upper
Heavier bullet is a bug plus if you are shooting anything larger than a coyote.
@@DasGoodSoup I love the 350 legend I have 2 ARs and 2 bolts. My 8 year old boy filled his tags with the 350 and I got 3 whitetail and an axis with the 350
Yep, that tool will mist a squirrel .
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😅looks like a great hunting rou d
That doppler doodad is really impressive, as are those rounds! Ive heard 55 grain .223 soft points underpenetrate but they seem good to go to me. Thanks for the test!
Yessir. I'd run em.😎👍
Not as much of a difference as I expected from the 20". Appreciate you Tools. 🇺🇸
Same here.😎👊
The 20” barrel doesn’t cause much more damage at short distances (under 100 yards), the extra velocity simply extends the fragmentation range for 5.56. So essentially a 20” shot at 145 yards is equivalent to an M4 at 100.
Good to see you invest in the channel like that tools.. I think you'll have a lot better experience with the radar. People don't get how frustrating a Chrono can be.. this thing will likely pay for itself in ammo because of the errors associated with a regular chroni
Thank you sir. Hopefully it'll save me some headache and ammo.😎👊
Couldn’t agree more. I came here to say that.
It's insane to me how much your channel has evolved. For me it's my go-to for ballistic data. I really wish there was more 10 mm rounds available on the market
Appreciate that. I have a couple 10 mm test coming up but probably not going to be anything great.😆
Your videos are number one in my opinion. It is what it is. The fact that your tests are completely unbiased makes you number one for comparisons are the best on RUclips. This is information that makes your channel the best. Thank you for the time to give unbiased information
Appreciate that, brother.😎👊
On some of your handgun testing, often the ammo has a large extreme spread. Sometimes the ammo out of a long barrel isn't much different than from the short barrel. With the Lab Radar you can tell just what the velocity is with each shot into the gel. This can explain why some of your results weren't what was expected.
This new tool will greatly enhance your understanding of why things happen the way they do.
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I've always had good performance at the range with PMC. Very consistent and runs well. Nice new set up there Tools!
Thank you ma'am. Never had any problems with it myself.😎👍
Thank you , been waiting for this PMC test a few years , much appreciated !
Appreciate you checkin it out.😎👊
Awesome, thanks so much for the test, for $11.59 a box, you really can’t go wrong. And what a tool your new gadget is, as it’s going to make your videos even better.
Thank you sir. Good stuff.😎👍
Thanks for giving price... would like to have about 15 boxes of this ammo...where can I find PMC soft points..
Thanks for running this test. The radar is nice to have but seeing the gel and the mangled rounds was pretty convincing.
Yessir 😎👊
Don't worry about it Tools. I thought it was just as good as the rest of your videos. Congrats on the new chrono . You'll figure it out in no time.
Thank you sir.😎👊
You got a 10-11” barrel to test that ammo out of? That’s what I use in my AR-Pistol most of the time. Good info ! 👍
I have a 10.5" but they kind of suck to use without a brace now.
Awesome video and kudos on the equipment. I've been using PMC 5.56 XTAC for quite awhile have been getting really tight groups at 50 &100yds. Recently picked up a 1000rds of.223 bronze at 44¢/rd at a gun show and can't wait to try it out with my new 18" 1:8 Wylde barrel.
The expansion of the soft points were really impressive.
Awesome new tool! Glad to see you able to upgrade. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing more tests with it.
Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊
The JKL LabRadar trigger is an almost necessary addon to get if you don't want to miss any shots.
I shoot alone on a very quiet range so that shouldn't be a problem. The problem I'm gonna have is trying to get a reading on the gel shot when I test handguns at such a short distance.
That's a great addition to the channel, for sure. Can't wait to see the content in the coming days with it. Awesome video, as always, brother. 👏 👏 👏
Thank you sir. Should be some interesting stuff.
Excellent video T&T. Thanks for always trying to improve the channel for us and adding this Doppler is a huge jump. I have some of these PMC SP's but haven't shot them yet. Now I know they were a good purchase!
Thank you sir. Next thing on my list is a new main camera so I can use the Gopro for jelly cam and have much smoother slo-mo.😎👊
Thanks for doing such a thorough and informative test! I wish I had seen this before I went ammo shopping, but it makes me happy about my choice of ammo! That .50" inch fragment looks like a show stopper, so I bought some of these for home defense and some FMJ rounds for the range, and I couldn't be happier. Liked and subscribed!
Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊
Good to see you were able to get that new radar. That will add a lot more information to what you have to present. Like this test of the softpoint .223. I have a Ruger American Ranch they will work very nice with! As always, appreciate your efforts and enjoy the videos!
Thank you sir. Appreciate you.😎👊
Congrats on the new purchase Brian! Awesome stuff as always. Looking forward to the enhanced data it will provide!
Thank you sir.😎👊
This was an awesome video Tools. I was paying more attention to the new tool and almost missed the ammo test. Congratulations on the new tool, it's s going to benefit an already awesome channel. Thanks for the test. Just goes to show you don't why to get hit by any of these rounds.
Be vigilant and always be safe my friend.
Thank you sir. This thing is gonna save me some ammo dealing with chrono errors, but cost me a lot of ammo from slinging it downrange just to see what it's moving.😂
@@ToolsandTargets That is like handloading/reloading, the cheaper it is, the more you can shoot👍🤠‼️
If you reload, the 60 grain Nosler Partition, and the 62 grain Barnes TSX are good for what ales you. The ballistic tips blow up on things. Nasty!
Good to know.😎👊
You have really upped you game with the Labradar. I must say, this has become the premier firearms testing channel on RUclips.
Appreciate that bigtime!😎👊
Now you know I’m a sucker for some rifle tests! Love the video and that new device is really cool. Keep up the fantastic work!
Appreciate that! Should be easier for me to do more rifle stuff with the new radar.😎👊
I'm amazed that the orange chrono can see .223 rounds flying at 2,800 fps from a hundred yards away.
It uses radar. It can have trouble picking up the small stuff like this at a distance sometimes.
Thanks for another great ammo test. Looking forward to all the great data from your new tool!
Appreciate that.😎👊
Another great video! Been watching a while and you have great content. Ive been beyond impressed with PMC accuracy from my Aero upper. Glad to see the terminal test to go with it!
Another great video Tools , that radar set up is sweet ! the pmc ammo did not disappoint !
Thank you sir.😎👊
They are an accurate and dependable bullet out to 200 yards and beyond. Use them exclusively in my .243 for whitetail deer. Seen my Dad take a whitetail at 550 yards with his .270. Sierra boat tail spitzer bullets.
Looks like some good stuff.😎👊
this awesome to see. i may or may not have stocked up on this exact round. thank you for a great test and a bunch of info
Congrats on the lab radar! Believe I have some of the PMC in my inventory but haven’t used any. Nice performance, thanks for the test Tools!
Thank you sir.😎👊
Nice work as always, thank you so much for your hard work and education. And love the new radar setup, wowzer!
Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊
Good stuff Tools, my local chain had the Federal Champion soft point 5.56 on sale for $8.99 a box so i swooped up a bunch of that after your last test. No worries about it at all. 👍🏻
Nice. Definitely a good deal on that.😎👊
@@ToolsandTargets got a nice red wall in the safe from those red boxes 👍🏻
Pretty great performance!! Great to know! Congrats on the new testing tool.
Thank you ma'am.
I like it that you do gel tests at a range other than point blank. We all know 223 will perform up close. Maybe some tests at a hundred to simulate a hunting situation.
Thank you sir. Definitely plan to do some longer stuff.😎👊
Don't remember the brand but man I was impressed by soft point 223 even more so than hollow points!
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Nice addition to your testing of rounds. Not bad shooting rounds. Never used them for anything other than target shooting. Thanks for the video.
Seems like some good stuff.😎👍
You got all the good stuff
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Excellent test, really like your new chronograph pretty awesome. Keep up the good work!
Thank you sir.😎👊
Appreciate you bringing attention to lesser known rounds that might be just as good (tm).
Unfortunately, I've seen some tests of federal fusion MSR .223 launching 62 grain bonded softpoint bullets at about the same speed as this 55 grain load.
#JustAsGood 😎👊
Thank you for the test looking at getting some and looks perfect for some of my hunting needs.
Super cool upgrade Brian, glad you're having fun man!
Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊
.223 velocity is measured from a 24 inch barrel, Great video and channel
Thank you sir.😎👊
Just started watching your videos lately sir. You are fantastic at doing presentations. Great info 👍
Appreciate that.😎👊
The new radar is a game changer for the channel. Forsure the most under rated guntuber for us gun nerds.
Appreciate that. It gave me a little bit of a headache today trying to do some handgun tests at the close distance I do them from. Rifle stuff will be so much easier though. I might go from 90% handgun tests to 90% rifle tests.🤣
Good ammo there. 👍 Looks like more long gun videos to come.👌 Never a dull moment. Tools&Targets&Technology 👍🇺🇸👊
Definitely gonna make rifle stuff way easier and faster to set up.😎👊
You've done very well for yourself Tools. Another Great video.
Thank you sir. Appreciate you!😎👊
Thank you for this test, I shoot mainly the soft points in my .223 and 556, great test with great results
Definitely some more good stuff.😎👊
You have some nice stuff there and do some great testing.
Thank you from s. Ga.
Appreciate ya, brother.😎👊
The new radar will definitely up your game! More information is always better, and those rounds are wicked!
Yes indeed.😎👊
The Federal sp are nice, high velocity, good quality. These PMC appear to get similar results, probably priced a bit lower, good to try as an alternative. Thx for testing man, much appreciated!
Gotta love that gear, impressive, worked well
Appreciate ya!
👍👍Thanks tools, looks like good rounds. Love the new radar too.
Appreciate ya!😎👊
Thanks
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Your test are getting better and better each time.
Appreciate that.😎👊
Ammo looks great. Radar looks great. Loving the updates on your channel! More tools to use with the TOOLS!
Thank you sir. 😎👊
The BEST gun channel on YT, just got better. Love the new equipment. Y'all ROCK !
Appreciate that, brother!😎👊
Really enjoying your channel. Great info. I make sure to hit the thumbs up every video.
Appreciate that, bigtime!😎👊
It would be interesting to see some 50-yard velocities on some of the 10mm ammo that has been tested on the channel so far, especially the stuff firing 200 grain projectiles to see if it's still over 1,000 feet per second at that distance.
You could drop up to 200 fps but likely less in the 150 range.A nine 115 gr plus p will drop 150 fps at 50.
@@paulscountry456 The reason the 50 yard numbers are important specifically to the 10mm is because one of Jeff Cooper's design specifications for the 10mm was to have a .40 caliber 200-grain bullet from a 5" barrel such that it would have a minimum target impact velocity of 1,000 feet per second at "at all reasonable combat ranges," which Jeff Cooper considered to be 50 yards (actually 50 meters, which is a touch over 54.6 yards, but close enough).
That means it's hitting the target with 444 energy foot pounds at 50 meters.
Tools likes to complain that a lot of the 10mm ammo he tests is not "real 10mm ammo," and in a lot of cases, he's right.
But the only way to be sure is to find the velocity at 50 meters (or yards, it'll be close enough). If the projectile is 200 grains, then as long as the velocity is at least 1,000 feet per second, it's "real 10mm ammo."
If the projectile is some weight other than 200 grains, then you can use the 50m/yard velocity and the weight of the projectile to calculate the energy foot pounds of the projectile at that distance, and then determine if it's in the ballpark of 444 energy foot pounds.
If it's still making about 444 energy foot pounds at 50 meters, it's "real 10mm ammo."
Measuring the velocity takes the guesswork out of the equation.
That is something that would be very interesting to me. Very good idea!😎👊
Really nice videos and specs! Keep it up man.
Wow I'm super happy for you. That new radar is so bada$$! Its going to be great for all the amazing information your going to be able to provide. I'm looking forward to all the knowledge. The pmcs softpoints would do good work on a coyote or prairie dogs in my area
Thank you sir. Should save me a lot of headache and setup on longer range stuff too.😎👍
Looking forward to it
Some good expansion on these. PMC works well in my rifles. They shoot good groups for me. Your new gadget is cool. I look forward to seeing more with it.
Thank you sir.😎👊
Tools if you were a video game you just leveled up ⬆️ your game brother. That is very exciting and great information at impact at the Gel. Masterful job buddy! Great test and good performance for SP’s. What awesome upgrade to your range. Good for you. Now there will be all kinds of ammo test requests lol 😅. Be safe. ⭐️⭐️😎⭐️⭐️
Thank you sir. I have something else planned that is gonna make some very interesting tests.😎👊
Nice piece of equipment Tools,glad you got it I have seen on one other Chanel’s I watch
Thank you sir.
You always have incredible tests. Teach so much in a relatively short video. God bless, brother!
Appreciate that!😎👊
That new radar is really cool, the quality of the tests/information just went up even further than it already was. Very cool Tools😎😎
And hey, now i know what the majority of my 223 stockpile does, glad to know i stacked something decent🤠
Thank you sir. Got another good .223 AR test coming at the end of this week.😎👊
@@ToolsandTargets Absolutely! Cant wait!😎
Great video with some really interesting results at the Gel blocks , I was a bit surprised at how little difference there was with the energy ft/lbs there was , only 1ftlb for every inch of extra barrel length at the target , so it's not surprising there was so little difference in the distance travelled and the expansion , but It makes you wonder if both paying for those extra few inches of barrel, and carrying the extra ounces is worth it , of course with more powerful /larger calibres the differences will probably be more substantial and the extra length could also be vital for long range work . Thanks , catch You next episode , Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.
Good point. There is quite a bit of felt weight difference in that extra barrel length.
Very impressive ammo test Tools. I'm digging the new Doppler radar .👍🇺🇸
Appreciate that, brother.😎👊
My AR carbines all have 16" barrels. I was curious about rigging up an upper with a 20" barrel. Looking at the results of this test, I guess I'll save my money for bullets and stick with my 16".
I appreciate your methodical testing. We all learn a lot about the common calibers we all use. Thank you
I got some PMC 308 soft point 150gr. and that stuff is very accurate out of my savage 110 bolt gun. I know off topic, but also I see AAC has 45acp with XTP hollow points now. I hope it performs good like their 9mm did in your tests.
Hmmm. Might have to check those out.
Run the Doppler AND the chrono for the same shots - and compare the results? A stand alone test/video of them using 45 ACP (slow), 5.7 pistol or light for caliber 10mm (medium), and the fastest rifle round you got. Or any slow medium fast combo. Or just run both chronos every shot on some upcoming tests. Great addition to the channel!
Thank you sir.😎👊
I have always thought that PMC was fairly decent ammo since first using it in back in the 80s. I think the factory that makes it in South Korea is also may be the primary supplier to the military in South Korea.
I've always had good luck with it. Their hp handgun ammo performance leaves a lot to be desired, but never had any function issues.
Nice Orange box! More data from hills of VA. Excellent setup. Congratulations 🎉
Thank you sir.😎👊
that was a great video! I’ve always loved PMC products but lately I’ve been having a hard time getting the soft point 223. I ordered a bunch about a month ago and now the usual online supplier seems to be out. Doesn’t really surprise me though. It would be great to see a comparison to the 223 hollow point.
If your still looking I am picking up a 200 rd case of PMC bronze soft points from SGammo for 149.50
Nice test TT bonded soft points are the best all purpose rifle rounds. I like to see how Federal Fusion compares.
Thank you sir.😎👊
Send Tools&Targets a couple of boxes, and I am sure that he will test them for you👍🤠‼️
Great idea. I’ve got a box of 9mm Major JHP and a few versions of 357 SIG to add to that package. Now I just need the address….
I’m a big fan of 55 grain soft points. I picked up a good amount of the federal champions when they were available.. and continue to pick up the pmc soft points as well. Great video! I like how you use different barrel lengths in many of your videos.
Thank you sir. 😎👊
Nice new equipment, even more reason to watch your video's, I'm glad your channel is doing well.
Thank you sir. Appreciate that.
Wow game changer! Looking forward to the progression of your channel👍
Appreciate ya, brother.😎👊
Sure hope you enjoy making these, cuz I sure like watching them!
I picked up a 18" radical firearms upper for cheap to have as an extra. Didn't want to load for it so I tried out 10 different factory offerings wasn't impressed. Few months later a buddy was looking for an upper. Sold it to him, he picked up 200 rounds of the PMC bronze 55gr sp. He said it shot great. He brought it over and I shot four 5 shot groups just over 1/2"! I was floored really want that upper back now. I saw him dispatch 7 raccoons with it to date from 20yds to 160yds all 7 were drt from a single shot.
There’s a reason why standard cup and core soft points have been whitetail hunter’s gold standard for decades. They just work, I would say regardless of brand, a soft point is gonna do what a soft point does. These PMCs seem up to par with any other brand IMO.
Agreed. They just work.😎👊
Awesome! Congrats on the new “tool”. You should get some really useful data with that Doppler. You’ll get the kinks worked out figuring out a system in no time.
Thank you sir.😎👊
Looks like good stuff and congrats on the new tool there baby
Thank you sir.😎👊
Nice investment. And as always a great test and plenty of info, TY Sir!
Appreciate that! Hopefully it will make my life a little easier.😎👊
Gotta love a load that you can stock deep that works great im pretty sure I played a little bit of a role in you deciding to test these because im pretty sure I had told you about them in your video with the other federal champion SP's thanks for the test 👍 the best gel test on RUclips.. i love your gel tests there's always something good or something that i personally use to look forward to watching and these rounds are winners in my opinion for the price.. I usually use gold dots and Hornady TAP as my go to bullets in 556/223 but these are my 3rd choice and I keep some loaded up and put back.. the heavy OTM is a good choice too if you want deeper penetration and even 55 grain fmj will work its not ideal but it works lol those are pretty much all the different bullets i use in my AR's i like to practice with 55 grain fmj because its still something you can use for defense if you had too those PMC's are almost cheap enough to just practice with them but i like to conserve on my soft points and hollow points as much as i can.. still have to check zero every now and again though so I can't be too stingy with them lol
Yessir. Turned out to be another good one.😎👊
Glad to see the upgrade. That’s cool.
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Nice new tool. Congratulations. Good results. Thank you much.
Thank you sir.😎👊
Love those Rifles! Great performance from the pmc 👍🏻
Thank you sir. Good stuff.😎👊
Nice new toys! As far as home defense...it just can’t be beat. Those saying AR’s are no good forget...I think you would have to try to miss on purpose let along worry about missing. Good rounds, would not feel underfunded in any way! Thanks brother!👍🏼😎
Amen. I'll grab my AR for anything.
Nice review!
Would like to see the same ammo test out of a 10.5” !
Great test, ammo performed great. Nice new machine, good for you. thanks for your hard work..
Thank you sir. Gotta love some AR-15.😎👊
@@ToolsandTargets your welcome and right you are. 👍👍👍
Very nice ! Look foward to gellydop contraption ! Golden earring rings a bell !?
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The things the can do with Doppler. Good video Mr. Tools.
Absolutely. Appreciate that!
Been wanting some for hunting. Great show
Thank you sir.😎👊
@@ToolsandTargets 👍🤣
Great info! Thanks