These videos are the type that made me subscribe. I think you should do a series and break things down more. Making the skid plate bar, wheel diameters (I know you said 15's but other cars use others), making Kevlar protection, Kevlar Vs plastics etc etc.
"We move a lot of things around [in the engine compartment] based on heat and to simplify how we work on the car." Would love to know what you did! Also, do you bypass the brake booster? What about the steering wheel? All airbags removed?
This video is such an inspiration to build up my ST, thank you for the information! Those front brake calipers especially piqued my interest being able to run them with 15inch wheels
They are AP Racing GRAVEL spec calipers (I don't know if they are the R5 ones or the R2T class ones they are using there?), made to work with high ET number (backspacing), 6"-7" wide, 15" gravel rally wheels, without needing spacers. But yeah, $$$$$$!
Satefy and secure all the parts in the vehicle is most important thing! Could you explain more about the chassis and suspension improvement on consequent series?
Im trying to get into other aspects of motor sport, as i like touge races (not drifting in it though, if that makes sence), i like muscle cars quite a bit, like the z28(chevy), 78 firebird, and some cool drag built hondas. But im trying to learn about rally/ offroad. When i was a kid i absolutley loved offroading vehichles, like jeeps, dirtbikes, and i sort of liked rally cars, but ive never reaserched about them. Ive only watched rally races because of the impresive speed and consentration while under so much stress trying not to crash into a tree or flip over. Thanks for the info.
i live in kenosha wi where the roads suck. i was thinking about getting a fiesta and put a rally suspension in it and use it for food delivery. is this a good idea or what??
A REAL gravel (or tarmac for that matter) rally suspension, like the Reiger one in the above video, will co$t you between $7000 and $10,000 US dollars (new at least). Used/rebuilt a little bit less. Just use a good set of Bilstein B6 dampers, and the factory springs, and you can go anywhere (with the correct tires) as long as you are not traveling at rally stage speeds.
Has anyone or does anyone know if the UHMW plastic (like cutting board material) is any good for under car protection on a rally car? I’ve used it on my UTV and it works great,probably easier to shape aluminum was JW.
Does anyone know if a part time all wheel drive system would be good for rally or should I just find something full time? Or is there anything I should be concerned about? (Btw yes I know the difference thx to team O'Neal lol)
Think the answer is probably it depends on the system. From what I know, I would think in rally a full time system would be better. Since, disengaging and re-engaging the drivetrains probably is dependent on some system which adds an additional point of failure. If I base myself on this video alone, for rally u want reliability so I'm guessing the part time all wheel drive system might not be the way to go.
@@realQuiGon Yeah, apparently the American market has gone crazy about giant SUVs. So Ford will only make those and the Mustang and some big crossovers!
Please advise if only 2002-2007 Subaru imprezas are good for rally because of the suspension. I am having difficulty finding these years. Are any other years or models recommended? I can find some Fiestas but the prices are high right now for used Fiestas. Any recommendations for Fiesta years? What about VW golf regular or GTI? Civics?
Could you show what you've changed in the engine bay and interior please? I'd rather have the commentary over a video of what you've done. Good video though :)
Hi, i have a 1.4 fiesta mk7 and i want to transform it in a little rally car. In the past few years i have changed many cars but for some reason i got in love with my little fiesta... I have changed many parts in my fiesta since i bought it till now and now i want to do some serious upgrades to my fiesta. I want to change the engine head cos the camshaft it's on it's way and i want to turn it into 1.6 witch it's not very hard but the main thing that i want to do is to make it 4wd and i looked at some videos and i have a roughly idea but i still didn't find the righ gearbox that's gonna fit. Can you guys give me some ideas or some help to find the right thing? Or can you make a video to help me and many others that they wanna do an upgrade like me. Many thanks.
In the USA, NONE of them ever had a limited slip available, EVER, even as an option, from the factory. In England/Europe, only the very limited production M-Sport Edition ST200 had the same Quaife limited slip installed by M-Sport for the Mk7 (late 2013 to 2019 in the USA, 2013 to late 2016 everywhere else) cars at least. Not sure about the Brit/Euro/rest of world Mk8s (2017 model year and up over there), but I do believe that a limited slip is a factory option on those STs.
Yo! How can I get a rally tuned car from you guys? preferably a Ford Fiesta ST. Just curious because im novice and I want to get into rally sport... I was looking into buying one stock to perform stock class stages. But I assume safety regulations require a roll cage. Please help me to get started. If I can get a good start locally. I will definitely fly up and take classes from Team O Neal!
Hello! We do not build and sell rally cars. If you are looking to get into local events in a stock vehicle check out Rallycross, which might be the best way to get started: www.scca.com/pages/what-is-rallycross
@@itchytortillas1774 A few good places to start: ruclips.net/video/JLdOLFVF3sA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/n0cht9vtwy4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/rW1IJ4W8UkM/видео.html
Rallycross is indeed the way to go with a stock car to get used to the feel and get "seat time" in, plus cross events typically don't require a roll cage though they are recommended (rally cross courses don't involve the significant terrain changes that stage rally cars encounter and thus the likelihood of rolling is greatly reduced). Good luck - hope to see you out there someday.
How long do the cats/O2s survive with the heavy duty diesel oil? ;) Actually, on that note, any aftermarket engine management/logging/exhaust (say, 200cell metal core)? Water to air vs fmic? Water pump pulleys, engine hotspot monitoring... basically anything durability/safety-wise. Outright power is the least interesting thing in cars anyways :P
@@SpiritLwerewolf Yes, ALL of the WRC classes of cars now MUST have them fitted, albeit they put them in the back of the car, right before the tailpipe, like in the build above. That stacked up Amsoil diesel oil might be for the schools pickup trucks/service and tow vehicles. 😉
Those front brakes, and the Reiger R2 suspension are almost the co$t of a decent, lower mileage, street Fiesta ST all by themselves! 😱 Do you change the knuckles/uprights back to the base Fiesta versions in order to fit/have the Reigers work properly on the ST?? Is there a reason you did not change the hubs to 5 bolt in order to take advantage of the greater choice in rally wheels out there (those 4x108 PCD, R1 class, silver M-Sport O.Z. Racing 'disc' gravel wheels are LONG LONG gone, save for whatever few undamaged ones you have left in your inventory!)?? You are NOT doing any actual customer rally car builds anymore out of the school location, correct?? So then WHO would you send a potential Fiesta (Open 2WD, or Limited 2WD) ST or otherwise to for a full build, or even the bespoke parts you no longer manufacture (like the skid plate), and sources for the kevlar protection (besides the insanely priced M-Sport Poland stuff)??? Is there a rust proof, and non-destructive way to install big SMS sourced, rally mud flaps onto a street Fiesta ST without using the way too flimsy (for working on ARA Rallies) Rally Armor mounting hardware? Are the rivets on that car going into the actual fender metal edges, or the front plastic inner wheel well liner??
These videos are the type that made me subscribe. I think you should do a series and break things down more. Making the skid plate bar, wheel diameters (I know you said 15's but other cars use others), making Kevlar protection, Kevlar Vs plastics etc etc.
Great idea, I totally agree 👍
I agree with this.
"We move a lot of things around [in the engine compartment] based on heat and to simplify how we work on the car." Would love to know what you did! Also, do you bypass the brake booster? What about the steering wheel? All airbags removed?
yea, skipped plenty of nuanced details for the sake of simpicity. Would love a long techical breakdown
egr, icv, ccv removed. airbox moved. battery moved. Air bags removed. Booster intact likely, if using the stock pedal box.
30 years old, never had a license and I live 4 hours north. Just moved to the woods and absolutely need a license now. And I need to go here!
This video is such an inspiration to build up my ST, thank you for the information! Those front brake calipers especially piqued my interest being able to run them with 15inch wheels
Hi I have a similar set up on my rallycar
What do you want to know?
They are AP Racing GRAVEL spec calipers (I don't know if they are the R5 ones or the R2T class ones they are using there?), made to work with high ET number (backspacing), 6"-7" wide, 15" gravel rally wheels, without needing spacers.
But yeah, $$$$$$!
Best video I have seen so far , real good explanation.
Great video and information! Need more close-ups of all the parts you mentioned.
Keep up the great work 👍
These videos are exactly why I subscribe. Could you go a little more in depth on suspension, Kevlar guards, etc. in the future?
Satefy and secure all the parts in the vehicle is most important thing! Could you explain more about the chassis and suspension improvement on consequent series?
You should go more in detail with everything and make a full series!!
More information on building cages heater systems and fire suppression systems would be much appreciated
Im trying to get into other aspects of motor sport, as i like touge races (not drifting in it though, if that makes sence), i like muscle cars quite a bit, like the z28(chevy), 78 firebird, and some cool drag built hondas. But im trying to learn about rally/ offroad. When i was a kid i absolutley loved offroading vehichles, like jeeps, dirtbikes, and i sort of liked rally cars, but ive never reaserched about them. Ive only watched rally races because of the impresive speed and consentration while under so much stress trying not to crash into a tree or flip over. Thanks for the info.
This is very interesting. Unfortunately I have a SE type. Love watching these videos though.
thank you so much!!! still learning a lot with you guys!! so thankful
Could you redo the episode on is side ways faster on a fwd drive car.
Great informative video, thank you
How the hood pins are attached? I really want to build mine for local Rallies and I'm gathering all the information before starting
Beautiful.
i live in kenosha wi where the roads suck. i was thinking about getting a fiesta and put a rally suspension in it and use it for food delivery. is this a good idea or what??
A REAL gravel (or tarmac for that matter) rally suspension, like the Reiger one in the above video, will co$t you between $7000 and $10,000 US dollars (new at least).
Used/rebuilt a little bit less.
Just use a good set of Bilstein B6 dampers, and the factory springs, and you can go anywhere (with the correct tires) as long as you are not traveling at rally stage speeds.
Are the purple things under hood against firewall the shock parts?
Awesome!
Has anyone or does anyone know if the UHMW plastic (like cutting board material) is any good for under car protection on a rally car? I’ve used it on my UTV and it works great,probably easier to shape aluminum was JW.
What are the wheel studs used here? Been having trouble finding aftermarket ones for my FiST
6:19 Hey Mr. Cameraman, pay attention!!
lol
Is it possible to apply for a mechanic job at team O'Neil?
Does anyone know if a part time all wheel drive system would be good for rally or should I just find something full time? Or is there anything I should be concerned about? (Btw yes I know the difference thx to team O'Neal lol)
Think the answer is probably it depends on the system. From what I know, I would think in rally a full time system would be better. Since, disengaging and re-engaging the drivetrains probably is dependent on some system which adds an additional point of failure. If I base myself on this video alone, for rally u want reliability so I'm guessing the part time all wheel drive system might not be the way to go.
Love how the best starter rally car from Ford, is no longer made..... Shame (EDIT: I mean Canada/USA)
yeah but the SE is pretty cheap and the 1.0 ecoboost isn't bad if you build it right
@@tougeadventures2076 anyone tuning the 1.0 over here in the USA that you know of?
@@Darylrb1983 don't know, but they can't push more than 200 hp. aim for 180hp
It's not made anymore? Maybe not in the US, but here in Germany they are still in full production and quite popular!
@@realQuiGon Yeah, apparently the American market has gone crazy about giant SUVs. So Ford will only make those and the Mustang and some big crossovers!
Hello, great video. Im in the process of an ST build. Can you tell me the AP Racing front caliper model # you used.
What brand is that suspension?
Said at 5:33. Reiger
@@Pyinator Yup, pretty much top of the line for Fiesta rally cars, regardless of the class they are running in.
What headlight bulbs do you run on this cars? Any job done to the wiring?
Did you cancel the front and rear anti-roll bars
Please advise if only 2002-2007 Subaru imprezas are good for rally because of the suspension. I am having difficulty finding these years. Are any other years or models recommended? I can find some Fiestas but the prices are high right now for used Fiestas. Any recommendations for Fiesta years? What about VW golf regular or GTI? Civics?
Could you show what you've changed in the engine bay and interior please? I'd rather have the commentary over a video of what you've done. Good video though :)
I know I’m a year late. But why are you running a catalytic converter on the car if it’s a race car? Just curious
Hi, i have a 1.4 fiesta mk7 and i want to transform it in a little rally car. In the past few years i have changed many cars but for some reason i got in love with my little fiesta... I have changed many parts in my fiesta since i bought it till now and now i want to do some serious upgrades to my fiesta. I want to change the engine head cos the camshaft it's on it's way and i want to turn it into 1.6 witch it's not very hard but the main thing that i want to do is to make it 4wd and i looked at some videos and i have a roughly idea but i still didn't find the righ gearbox that's gonna fit. Can you guys give me some ideas or some help to find the right thing? Or can you make a video to help me and many others that they wanna do an upgrade like me. Many thanks.
Hi there, am vinod from Bangalore, how do I buy an all wheel drive turbo car to india?
I'm in the market of getting a fiesta ST but I want to to know which model years or packages came with the LSD?
In the USA, NONE of them ever had a limited slip available, EVER, even as an option, from the factory.
In England/Europe, only the very limited production M-Sport Edition ST200 had the same Quaife limited slip installed by M-Sport for the Mk7 (late 2013 to 2019 in the USA, 2013 to late 2016 everywhere else) cars at least.
Not sure about the Brit/Euro/rest of world Mk8s (2017 model year and up over there), but I do believe that a limited slip is a factory option on those STs.
Yo! How can I get a rally tuned car from you guys? preferably a Ford Fiesta ST. Just curious because im novice and I want to get into rally sport... I was looking into buying one stock to perform stock class stages. But I assume safety regulations require a roll cage. Please help me to get started. If I can get a good start locally. I will definitely fly up and take classes from Team O Neal!
And links to some Team O'Neil beginner videos would be much appreciated.
Hello! We do not build and sell rally cars. If you are looking to get into local events in a stock vehicle check out Rallycross, which might be the best way to get started:
www.scca.com/pages/what-is-rallycross
@@itchytortillas1774 A few good places to start:
ruclips.net/video/JLdOLFVF3sA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/n0cht9vtwy4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/rW1IJ4W8UkM/видео.html
Rallycross is indeed the way to go with a stock car to get used to the feel and get "seat time" in, plus cross events typically don't require a roll cage though they are recommended (rally cross courses don't involve the significant terrain changes that stage rally cars encounter and thus the likelihood of rolling is greatly reduced). Good luck - hope to see you out there someday.
Sway bars? Bigger? None at all?
How long do the cats/O2s survive with the heavy duty diesel oil? ;)
Actually, on that note, any aftermarket engine management/logging/exhaust (say, 200cell metal core)? Water to air vs fmic? Water pump pulleys, engine hotspot monitoring... basically anything durability/safety-wise. Outright power is the least interesting thing in cars anyways :P
there's no cats in racing. And there's no oil being burnt.
@@ttt69420 The "no cats in racing" statement is false - or shall I say, not universally true.
@@SpiritLwerewolf Yes, ALL of the WRC classes of cars now MUST have them fitted, albeit they put them in the back of the car, right before the tailpipe, like in the build above.
That stacked up Amsoil diesel oil might be for the schools pickup trucks/service and tow vehicles. 😉
First 3 let's go
Those front brakes, and the Reiger R2 suspension are almost the co$t of a decent, lower mileage, street Fiesta ST all by themselves! 😱
Do you change the knuckles/uprights back to the base Fiesta versions in order to fit/have the Reigers work properly on the ST??
Is there a reason you did not change the hubs to 5 bolt in order to take advantage of the greater choice in rally wheels out there (those 4x108 PCD, R1 class, silver M-Sport O.Z. Racing 'disc' gravel wheels are LONG LONG gone, save for whatever few undamaged ones you have left in your inventory!)??
You are NOT doing any actual customer rally car builds anymore out of the school location, correct??
So then WHO would you send a potential Fiesta (Open 2WD, or Limited 2WD) ST or otherwise to for a full build, or even the bespoke parts you no longer manufacture (like the skid plate), and sources for the kevlar protection (besides the insanely priced M-Sport Poland stuff)???
Is there a rust proof, and non-destructive way to install big SMS sourced, rally mud flaps onto a street Fiesta ST without using the way too flimsy (for working on ARA Rallies) Rally Armor mounting hardware?
Are the rivets on that car going into the actual fender metal edges, or the front plastic inner wheel well liner??
cameraman needs to focus on the car