Whenever people watch crash videos and think that they are cool ( I think they are cool af ) they don't really realize how devastating the crashes are for the driver because not only are they most likely going to lose the rally, it's a shit load of money to fix up there car or to buy a new one if they total it. rally is awesome and i hope to do it one day and I also wish that it as bigger in america than it is right now because i personally enjoy it more than any other motorsport.
james harmon honestly. that shows how stupid we are lmao. Nascar is gay af all they do is go in a circle and every once in a while there is a crash. Its stupid af. rally racing is constant edge of your seat action and you never know what is going to happen next. I love it so much and i actually hope to get into the sport one day myself :D
james harmon yea man ikr rally is sick and i'm an adrenaline junky too haha. but yea i might buy like a 7 or 8k rally car once i get out of high school and my friend told me he would learn how to be a co driver and shit. dude if i actually go through with this it would be amazing haha. good luck to u tho.
james harmon i bet haha. rn i play football and i did used to do martial arts as well. but yea i think i might actually do it. I'm 15 btw just so you know lol
I can't believe how many people came here to bitch that a video intended for Americans was going to mention the most well known dirt driver in America. No one said he was the best, but he's very well known and if you were able to throw a car around a track like he does you'd be mighty proud of yourself.
People love to diss on Ken Block like they could do better, he may not be the best but he's better than any keyboard warrior and he's also just about the only "rally driver" who has managed to make big profit while doing it.
You can find log-booked, turn-key 2wd rally cars for under 10k if you keep your eyes peeled for one. It'll be an older VW or similar, but it will get the job done.
yes, you can go out and buy a Honda fit for 10 grand, and yes, you can probably put a cage, two seats and all the other safety stuff in it for another 8... but this is where this "budget racing" thing goes a bit wrong. because youre looking easily at another 5 grand for a half decent set of gravel suspension, and a set of tyres (you'll want at least 2 sets) is about another grand a piece, plus youre going to need spares for the brakes and various other suspension components, easily another grand. Then theres getting it registered (oh yes, these things have to be street legal AND insured, and insurance for a racecar is not cheap). then youll need a tow rig, because even though it is street legal, youre insurance wont allow for it to be driven long distances to and from events, so youll need a truck and trailer. then theres the gear: helmet $500-1000, racing suit 500-1000, the hans device he has to wear around his neck is a minimum of 1000 dollars and it is mandatory. Going racing for 18 grand is all very well and good in theory, but youre actually looking probably a minimum of 30000 just to get the car ready and to one event, after that the costs die down, but it still isn't cheap. entry fees are expensive, and then theres getting the racing license, the school for which can cost 3 grand. so if you want to do a season of racing, your first year youre probably looking at $35-40000. not really budget racing when you actually look at all the costs.
+Jack Khashmanian Protip: Don't tell your insurance that you've modified your vehicle. Worst comes to worst, if you crash it you don't get anything out of it unless you tow the wreckage home and part it.
+Jack Khashmanian I am building a BMW e36 rally car. I have my helmet -120, insurance - 30per month, cage is 4k, suspension, 2.2k. Other items, Ie fire suit, skid plate, fire extinguishers, med kits, spill kits, steering wheel, tires and all. The whole project is looking to run about 10k for me. Then another 1-2k per rally. Not that bad. 1 or 2 rallies a year and then 50 dollar rx inbetween for my first few years. Biggest bite is the initial car.
Dude your a jackass don't listen to this guy go buy a honda civic do most of the work yourself and for under 10k you, your car and your co-driver if your paying for them too will be ready
while this poster is using worst case pricing and basically figuring all "new" gear (you don't need all brand new gear) he is mostly right. you have to have a tow car, you have to have spares (though often the best way to get spares is to buy a wrecked version of your car and strip it apart at home). but there is going to be 1-2 grand in costs per event you simply can't "bum" your way out of. and of course being able to afford to build a 18k $ car doesn't mean your also well off enough to afford totalling it. you have to enter every race with the mindset that it's not the end of the world if you tow back a pile of smashed wreckage.
Frederick Neill And for that 10K you would be absolutely demolished being in a car far faster than a beginner can handle. Even if you don't waste the entire 10k wrecking the car, you'll still be completely uncompetitive.
You can't use the same budget car for both events? What makes you say it is cheaper, I actually like the idea of circuit racing better than timed distance
8k for a fit? I wouldn't pay more than 5k on that especially knowing that you intend to thrash on it. I'd imagine any little fwd car with decent balance would suit.
Honda civic 1997 hatchback with rally suspension, rollcage and bucketseats + harnas, straight pipe, brakes. Maybe new intake and if you have the money a turbo. If you find the right parts you'll probably sit under 18k
a toyota corolla from 1990 is perfect for rallying. i payed 2000sek (200euros) its a 1100kg 105hp car. remove some weight get nice tires and boom it should be good to go for a beginer
Imho the point of this video was it doesnt realy matter which car u have as long as u drive it properly - u wouldnt expect honda fitt or how is it called (in EU its jazz) to win a rally class lol
Pretty much called is bullshit as soon as he showed a Honda Fit for 10g's... Of all the competitive cars in the price range, that's literally the worst...
A bit like what happened here, I have a story. My dad is a rally driver, and he was literally on the brink of winning the rally, when he fell into a ditch a few hundred metres from the finish. As his friend was passing by, he saw the car. He then, out of full respect for my dad, stopped next to him and attached a tow rope to the car. He pulled him out and my dad finished. He is such a nice man for stopping, when HE could’ve won the rally, but sacrificed his win to prevent my dad for getting a ‘DNF’. I love rallying. It is the most interesting and gruesome sport.
"I'm surprised at how much you could leave alone" New tires, welded diff, stripped down completely, 2 bucket seats, gravel suspension, racing wheel, and a roll cage.
@@Snow-vo1yi But that's not their goal in this either. I think the point they're trying to make is that the "budget rally build" is still quite expensive compared to a budget track or drag build.
Who? Is there a link to a story or something? I'm new to rally and would love to learn and start saving in case I'll want to try :) me and my cousin have always been sportsbike guys but since I got my Miata, and started modding it, we are approaching local competitions(as attenders) and rally costs are high...reading something about this $500 third place story would be awesome :)
Everyone claiming they should of got a old WRX or the like cheaper is just ignorant. This car will do this event week in and week out without an issue. A
If you truly wanted to go rallying and cant afford it in your current lifestyle you don't truly want to go rallying. Sell it all and live in your parents shed next to your rally car; this is the dream.
All in all, rally isnt something you do. It is something you commit to. For example ive been involved in motorsport all my life and now i'm 13 and building my first rally car with my dad. You cant watch a video like this and go "I'll do this next weekend' you have to spend you life doing it.
I guess he doesn't use Craigslist's. Alot of times you can find people who don't really rally or do any serious track racing instead most of the time they just sit and meet in empty parking lots. But you can find them selling older wrx's, 2.5rs, vw's, volvo 240's, and some audi's that already have a cage, seats, belts, and more but never really but them into use. For around 5-8k sometimes even cheaper. Will they pass inspection? Who knows. lol
this seems truly and genuinely fun 😊 if I ever get to rally, i'll be just cruising through the track the first time while my co-driver yelling at me to go faster 🤣
Watch the top gear version of this 'top gear budget rally'. They spend around 3,4 thousand pound ( around 5000 dollars), that's with all modifications making it rally legal. They take them down to a local track and have a great time against other budget cars. Seems much more appealing than spending 15000$ on this pile of Honda.
GuilleL51 [GD] you NEED turbo,forged pistons,weight reduction,is it in regulations or something ? You just need a car and a license to start racing for real
Boar Garage yeah ik but can you drift with a 70 hp fiesta? I mean i know its fun and cheap but with some cheap customizations you can have a nice car with more hp
Ken Block lol. Also 20k is not a small budget. Thats literally a deposit for a house. Pretty sure you can just pay for a day out in a rally type car on a track for a couple of thousand. Good vid though. Thanks for uploading.
My friend says that Forza Motorsport doesn't need rallying but he doesn't realize that rallying is a very good sport. (and it's also so dangerous) So Nitro if ur reading this, don't think rallying is stupid
Honestly even if you don’t like to accept it, he was a very important piece on the introduction of the rally and ambassador of the WRC in USA. And remember this, USA is well known for having people that don’t get involved in rally or even small sporting cars. THAT’S WHY HE WAS SO IMPORTANT IN THE RALLY WORLD.
Cars I'd recommend: BMW E30 325i Mazda speed 3 (any generation) Any subaru WRX or a 1st gen legacy turbo An old AWD audi or really any FWD car that's under 1400 kilos (3000-ish lbs.)
Rwd slides a lot on dirt. For fast times, that's bad. FWD pulls out of slides on dirt better than RWD but if you just want to have fun and you don't care about time then yes, rwd is a good option.
actually thats just half of the story... FWD is easier to drive i give you that, but in bad conditions like rain and mud if you accelerate hard in a FWD car you'll lose alot of grip because of weight transition
Dat Person Doe. then a Toyota Yaris/Aygo is perfect, 2,400lbs, 104hp and FWD, in fact it could be a unnoticed beast because I haven't seen many people use them in rally even though you can find them for $3000 or less.
@@crazycupckake4676 I don't know if you didnt undertand my previous comment or you're trolling, but, for someone who is in vacations or in the weekend and want to have some fun, it doesnt matter if its rallycross, rally, or any of the possible rally derivatives such as regularity rally, speed rally, etc. Its a weekend/vacation fun, with some spare money. I've done both in the past, and they are the same thing, the difference is only in the investment for starting it. I've had easier times doing like top gear did, and after having some fun and then when i had to comeback to work, i sold the car to another guy wich wanted to do the same thing, and actually got $200 more than i invested. With this one, i had to get a more recent car, and even selling it in the end, i lost some money. But for fun purpouses, its the same thing. We are not talking in any way in a professional environment nor championship, wich isnt in the scope of the video anyway.
Rally racing is very popular in New Zealand and I can tell you that this is nowhere near budget... Real budget rally is getting something like a 2nd gen Subaru Legacy, stripping the interior and installing a half-cage and you’re good to go as long as you’ve got a helmet and gloves...
I found a 2008 Hyundai accent with 94k miles for 1,800. Might be an interesting car to do this with. Slow enough to keep me out of trouble but good to learn.
I work at an arcade making $12 an hour (before deductions) and work 5 days a week. If you can make a rally car with my budget after all the bills and expenses paid let me know.
The Fit isn't a POS. My mom drives a 2008 manual Fit and has put 160,000+ miles on it from brand new. It hasn't had any problems unrelated to service, AT ALL. Not to mention it has more room and is faster than my civic. Besides, the other commenters are right, GL racing in AWD class
Few mistakes but overall great video, really gives me a look into what should I expect, Im even more excited now. One thing tho, you can get into rally racing for a lot and I mean A LOT cheaper than 18k. You can pick up some car for 1 grand and rally it with no problem, just find a rally where there is no requirement about having a roll cage and you can participate for 1k + entry fee
Ofc having a skid plate under the engine to protect oil pain and transmission from rocks and stuff, rip out the interior, buy some aftermarket steering wheel and muffler delete will give you more of a rally feel, but those are extras
Ofc having a skid plate under the engine to protect oil pain and transmission from rocks and stuff, rip out the interior, buy some aftermarket steering wheel and muffler delete will give you more of a rally feel, but those are extras
1. There’s no such thing as rally without a roll cage 2. There’s also no such thing as buying a rallycar for 1k and just going and driving it with no issues. If you get a rallycar for 1k, be prepared to spend hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars to get it remotely stage worthy 3. Motorsports are inherently expensive. If you’re looking for cheap, rally is not the sport for you. I would recommend curling or badminton
@@RallyKJ Overall you are 100% right, and I agree with you, but at least here (Australia) there are S1 rally sprints, which are the really base level events. They are set up so you can't reach that high speeds, and you can just use your road car in them; all you need is a helmet. I would imagine most other countries would have similar events.
Im sure hes a good driver but winning first place in a stock honda fit? that doesnt speak well of the competition, shoot the civic si shouldve been destroying them until it got stuck.
One thing I don't agree with is the "man vs machine" portion mentioned around 1:07 - you have to be one with your car and it HAS to be an extension of yourself otherwise you're going to run wide and wrap the car around a tree :|
Wow... All those people you said helped you out and towed you out and you drove right passed your OWN teammate.?!!!! If I heard that right.... Shame on you!
Did you watch the video or listen to the commentary? It was their team mates who were stuck, they waved them on (clearly seen in the video). They waited for sweep, took over an hour to get pulled out (clearly heard in the video). I was at this rally, and drove down that stage the day after in a 4wd SUV with AT tires. There was still a bunch of standing water on the road, with deep mucky ditches in many sections. There was no way the Fit was pulling that car out...
well at that point they were in the lead and heading for a victory. Would be stupid to give ANYONE a tow then. They were lucky to have gotten a tow when needed.
LMAO his go to "rally driver" is someone who's never won a single WRC rally event (best finish 7th) and I'm not even sure if he ever won a single stage. But then anyone that calls a twenty something grand rally car cheap is quite obviously somewhat detached from reality.
beginer rally drivers should not spend more then 500$ on a car. then just go and drive and learn. crash it try to fix it and just drive and learn and crash untill you are ready for somthing beter
No offense but those Honda fits are horrible They aren't fast (especially the originals) There's hardly any aftermarket parts And they aren't even that reliable
+The Wanderer a build for 500k is a waste it could of been done for 100k never said it was a shit car my impreza is fully built pushing about the same hp with Bilstein suspension kit plus many more extras spent around 30k
+wolfmannn2008 maybe a little on drugs only way i see it costing 500k if they had it built for them i do all my work on my cars i have a lot of help because i work a great shop and i don't pay for a lot of expensive things like programming maps etc
It's pretty simple see. The big companies can work off of the fact that since they have money, they can use it to make more money. Sure you can weld your own roll cage, piping, chassis, and all that, but who did it? Not a big company that will pay you to advertise their gear. The sheer amount of money you could get if your name was Ken Block and you spent 20,000 grand on a top of the line, trademarked roll cage outweighs the purchase price. Imagine the advertising revenue when you post their logo among the countless others you'll have on you're rally car. Oh you'll be making well over 500k. The 100k goes to the car, the other 400k is an investment. Also, another big thing about the automotive industry. Don't get me wrong, I am very much impressed by your build (and I love Imprezas), but not everyone knows that building a rally car is a very achievable goal. If it was, who would be sitting at home watching Ken Block do it? No, instead the industry is going to put on big price tags that say "you can't afford this" so people won't attempt it. Frankly, you can see this same business pattern in a lot of things you can build; like PC's and firearms. The demand will switch from the product itself to the parts that make it. Thankfully, we are at a happy medium where parts are cheap, but not so cheap that they aren't produced at all or are ridiculously expensive, (hint: airsoft).
Get a junkyard car for some really cheap rallying 😁 (of course fixed a bit with some cheap mods) Just don't expect 1st place. You're there for the enjoyment 👍
Wait...10 grand is supposed to be cheap? FML I knew I was poor but that takes the piss. Go buy an old Impreza off eBay for 1,000 and use that instead, jesus who the fuck spends 10k on a car they 100% know they will put in a ditch. When you use the word 'budget' maybe keep the total under a grand yeah.
I could buy a used 1.6L car for a grand if I looked hard enough. And considering it'd be your first try and there will be mistakes, costly mistakes at that, 10k is a bit excessive lol
You 100% need a bash plate. If you have any metal skills you can make one up yourself, or it should be a pretty cheap job to get someone else to do it. Doesn't need to be pretty, just strong.
when you have Mc.Lovin as your codriver anything can happen.
xabierfam isnt mc lovin from a movie about kids getting beer so they can get into a party?
Nailing 6992 Yeah pretty much. I believe the movie was called Superbad.
Nah, samir's co driver is way better
@@eduardoavila646 as long as his driver focuses and doesnt break the car
Filip Osvald And listen to the calls
I've edited my comment so you can't see what people are fighting about in here for the past 3 years
Comparing to a purpose-built rally car, yes it is a budget solution.
That's racing "budget" :D
HONDA RACING
Ik, like I could see like a 2K car and like 8K in mods, and prolly a friend who would be down to co drive. Also youd be doing all the work yourself
it can be done for cheaper if you choose a different car and depending what you are required to have vs what you want to have
2:13
>welding a diff on a fwd car and showing the rear axle
WEW LAD
Lol I noticed that
No such thing as a rear axle on a fwd car lol but i get what your saying
@@Freeboyy97 ???
No such thing as a rear differential*
R!OT Racing Lol yeah there is
that 18k price doesnt include trailor, mechanics, various spare parts and very importantly, the entry fee.
Co-driver, fuel, insurance and travel expenses for everything.
Then you've got to consider where you're staying, food and so on.
@@bakersmileyface so how much in total
@@davidgaylord4432About 30k. For the initial investment that is. After that every rally will cost about 2k not including damage expenses.
Whenever people watch crash videos and think that they are cool ( I think they are cool af ) they don't really realize how devastating the crashes are for the driver because not only are they most likely going to lose the rally, it's a shit load of money to fix up there car or to buy a new one if they total it. rally is awesome and i hope to do it one day and I also wish that it as bigger in america than it is right now because i personally enjoy it more than any other motorsport.
james harmon honestly. that shows how stupid we are lmao. Nascar is gay af all they do is go in a circle and every once in a while there is a crash. Its stupid af. rally racing is constant edge of your seat action and you never know what is going to happen next. I love it so much and i actually hope to get into the sport one day myself :D
james harmon yea man ikr rally is sick and i'm an adrenaline junky too haha. but yea i might buy like a 7 or 8k rally car once i get out of high school and my friend told me he would learn how to be a co driver and shit. dude if i actually go through with this it would be amazing haha. good luck to u tho.
james harmon i bet haha. rn i play football and i did used to do martial arts as well. but yea i think i might actually do it. I'm 15 btw just so you know lol
To finish first, first you must finish.
Richard McConnachie indeed mate, indeed
Why are they referring to Ken Block like he's a rally god or sth, he's nowhere near the best rally drivers in the world. Just a showman
I guess that's because he is about the only rally driver Americans know
Colin McCray was a legend
I can't believe how many people came here to bitch that a video intended for Americans was going to mention the most well known dirt driver in America. No one said he was the best, but he's very well known and if you were able to throw a car around a track like he does you'd be mighty proud of yourself.
People love to diss on Ken Block like they could do better, he may not be the best but he's better than any keyboard warrior and he's also just about the only "rally driver" who has managed to make big profit while doing it.
Ameeriklased, seal on ta kõva mees MM-il oleks suht viimaste hulgas.
all the reference to ken block made me cringe
Antti-Jussi Vuori Dude, that doesn't say much.
Saggy Pants how though?
Me too....they couldn't find any other driver...loo
Walter Röhrl
AJV most successful? Lol he crashed or never even placed in the wrc. That is why he dropped out! Try John Buffom the only American to win the WRC
so basically it's possible to join for $10k (cause I can find a better car for $2k)
even cheaper if you know how to weld and have a welder, being essentially the price of the car and tires
You can find log-booked, turn-key 2wd rally cars for under 10k if you keep your eyes peeled for one. It'll be an older VW or similar, but it will get the job done.
So many decent chassis out there for rally - question is what series you're trying to enter.
The safety equipment alone will run you more than two grand.
Found an 03' Civic SI for 2,873$ and it's better because VTEC POWAAA!
yes, you can go out and buy a Honda fit for 10 grand, and yes, you can probably put a cage, two seats and all the other safety stuff in it for another 8... but this is where this "budget racing" thing goes a bit wrong. because youre looking easily at another 5 grand for a half decent set of gravel suspension, and a set of tyres (you'll want at least 2 sets) is about another grand a piece, plus youre going to need spares for the brakes and various other suspension components, easily another grand. Then theres getting it registered (oh yes, these things have to be street legal AND insured, and insurance for a racecar is not cheap). then youll need a tow rig, because even though it is street legal, youre insurance wont allow for it to be driven long distances to and from events, so youll need a truck and trailer. then theres the gear: helmet $500-1000, racing suit 500-1000, the hans device he has to wear around his neck is a minimum of 1000 dollars and it is mandatory. Going racing for 18 grand is all very well and good in theory, but youre actually looking probably a minimum of 30000 just to get the car ready and to one event, after that the costs die down, but it still isn't cheap. entry fees are expensive, and then theres getting the racing license, the school for which can cost 3 grand. so if you want to do a season of racing, your first year youre probably looking at $35-40000. not really budget racing when you actually look at all the costs.
+Jack Khashmanian Protip: Don't tell your insurance that you've modified your vehicle. Worst comes to worst, if you crash it you don't get anything out of it unless you tow the wreckage home and part it.
+Jack Khashmanian I am building a BMW e36 rally car. I have my helmet -120, insurance - 30per month, cage is 4k, suspension, 2.2k. Other items, Ie fire suit, skid plate, fire extinguishers, med kits, spill kits, steering wheel, tires and all. The whole project is looking to run about 10k for me. Then another 1-2k per rally. Not that bad. 1 or 2 rallies a year and then 50 dollar rx inbetween for my first few years. Biggest bite is the initial car.
Dude your a jackass
don't listen to this guy go buy a honda civic do most of the work yourself
and for under 10k you, your car and your co-driver if your paying for them too will be ready
while this poster is using worst case pricing and basically figuring all "new" gear (you don't need all brand new gear) he is mostly right. you have to have a tow car, you have to have spares (though often the best way to get spares is to buy a wrecked version of your car and strip it apart at home). but there is going to be 1-2 grand in costs per event you simply can't "bum" your way out of. and of course being able to afford to build a 18k $ car doesn't mean your also well off enough to afford totalling it. you have to enter every race with the mindset that it's not the end of the world if you tow back a pile of smashed wreckage.
Jack
"Budget" in comparison to a full-fat racing car, not to your shopping trolley.
Funny they say 10 k is cheap. You could buy and build a much better rally car for 10 k
+Frederick Neill you could get a used subaru wrx sti for less than $10k
Frederick Neill And for that 10K you would be absolutely demolished being in a car far faster than a beginner can handle. Even if you don't waste the entire 10k wrecking the car, you'll still be completely uncompetitive.
You can actually buy and build a Lada 1200 / 2105 / 2107 VFTS for under 8k. It's around 140 BHP, and it's RWD.
rwd is terrible for rally
Combustion69 RWD in rally is good, Take the Volvo 240, the toyota starlet, ford escort and the lancia stratos as some examples.
No such thing as budget rally.. rallycross on the other hand :) good cheap fun
Agreed. This is the real answer
You can't use the same budget car for both events? What makes you say it is cheaper, I actually like the idea of circuit racing better than timed distance
Drew Larsh it's information for people that want to race rally not rally cross
rallycross is done on a mostly built circuit, which is a lot smoother than an actual rally course
Budget mudding.
8k for a fit? I wouldn't pay more than 5k on that especially knowing that you intend to thrash on it. I'd imagine any little fwd car with decent balance would suit.
Honda civic 1997 hatchback with rally suspension, rollcage and bucketseats + harnas, straight pipe, brakes. Maybe new intake and if you have the money a turbo. If you find the right parts you'll probably sit under 18k
a toyota corolla from 1990 is perfect for rallying. i payed 2000sek (200euros)
its a 1100kg 105hp car. remove some weight get nice tires and boom it should be good to go for a beginer
CJSchecter96 buy a Subaru svx
You think 8k is much try buy a mk2 escort you'll be lucky to get one for 20k
what about transmission for the turbo
So, smiles on headlights are more important than visibility
Yes.
Definitely
It adds 100+ more of horsepower. So yes, it is important
Y did you spend 8g on a 2wd car? Any old subaru will blow that crap out of water
That would put him in a different class if I'm not mistaken
AWD cars are in a different class, You should read the rule book on homologation classes . Driving skill is the key here, its not just about budget.
you can find a running 90s civic for like 800 and strip it out instead
Imho the point of this video was it doesnt realy matter which car u have as long as u drive it properly - u wouldnt expect honda fitt or how is it called (in EU its jazz) to win a rally class lol
get yourself a 3k 1st gen subaru impreza type r cuz that thing is a beast even without tuning :D
The Fit is a wonderful platform for rally, the EP3 too. Little lift on the suspension, light bar, and even a tire rack on top or back. It's there!
"welding the differential"
points the camera at the back axle, which has never even seen a differential
absolutely ridicolous and misleading information in here
Yeah, new it was garbage as soon as they showed Yahoo in the first 10 seconds.
D R imagine if it were someone like buzzfeed instead it would be horrifying
Pretty much called is bullshit as soon as he showed a Honda Fit for 10g's... Of all the competitive cars in the price range, that's literally the worst...
lol, for not a lot of money...spent 8k on the car alone. a lot money for most people.
why? thats way to much dawg.
you don't need this type of car any car will work as long as it has the good motor and 5 speed
Your not throwing a ball around, you're racing cars. It has got to cost something.
Yes, it will cost something, but 8k for a mere Honda Jazz is a lot considering you could just get a Nissan 350Z for the same or less.
I will agree that a Z33 would be a terrible rally car, but, the point was value for money, not just what would be viable.
A bit like what happened here, I have a story. My dad is a rally driver, and he was literally on the brink of winning the rally, when he fell into a ditch a few hundred metres from the finish. As his friend was passing by, he saw the car. He then, out of full respect for my dad, stopped next to him and attached a tow rope to the car. He pulled him out and my dad finished. He is such a nice man for stopping, when HE could’ve won the rally, but sacrificed his win to prevent my dad for getting a ‘DNF’. I love rallying. It is the most interesting and gruesome sport.
"I'm surprised at how much you could leave alone"
New tires, welded diff, stripped down completely, 2 bucket seats, gravel suspension, racing wheel, and a roll cage.
Seems like a lot but its really not, it's nothing compared to creating a drag setup.
@@Snow-vo1yi You can leave everything alone on a casual drag car, can you not?
@@zachrichard7039 it depends on whether or not you're actually competing against buildt cars or not.
@@Snow-vo1yi But that's not their goal in this either. I think the point they're trying to make is that the "budget rally build" is still quite expensive compared to a budget track or drag build.
@@zachrichard7039 ok m8
And there is some guy who joined a rally with a $500 car...jeez.... 😕
And he got third place it was also a world championship
Yeah, you can get competitive car for much cheaper than the one in the vid.
Who? Is there a link to a story or something? I'm new to rally and would love to learn and start saving in case I'll want to try :) me and my cousin have always been sportsbike guys but since I got my Miata, and started modding it, we are approaching local competitions(as attenders) and rally costs are high...reading something about this $500 third place story would be awesome :)
AndreCorner
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FrankypankyV8
Thanks man!
Everyone claiming they should of got a old WRX or the like cheaper is just ignorant. This car will do this event week in and week out without an issue. A
SimoColes truth
I agree
Not entirely true.
SimoColes i started out in an e30, rwd is way better for learning
Not exactly true but makes sense
they mist
*racing suits $100-$2000
*rally helmet $200-$5000
*fire extinguisher $40-$100
*rally seats $400-$4000
*car trailer $4000-$10000
LoL, hans-free...
do u mean missed?
yep
lol
If you truly wanted to go rallying and cant afford it in your current lifestyle you don't truly want to go rallying. Sell it all and live in your parents shed next to your rally car; this is the dream.
All in all, rally isnt something you do. It is something you commit to. For example ive been involved in motorsport all my life and now i'm 13 and building my first rally car with my dad. You cant watch a video like this and go "I'll do this next weekend' you have to spend you life doing it.
I guess he doesn't use Craigslist's. Alot of times you can find people who don't really rally or do any serious track racing instead most of the time they just sit and meet in empty parking lots. But you can find them selling older wrx's, 2.5rs, vw's, volvo 240's, and some audi's that already have a cage, seats, belts, and more but never really but them into use. For around 5-8k sometimes even cheaper. Will they pass inspection? Who knows. lol
"If you're anything like me, you've dreamed of being a walking Monster Energy sponsor."
No.
this seems truly and genuinely fun 😊 if I ever get to rally, i'll be just cruising through the track the first time while my co-driver yelling at me to go faster 🤣
nah co driver are cool af
Stay with CoD Indian Kid.
Why the fuck does Yahoo have a yt acount
2stroke2smoke
Ikr
Generating ad revenue for their biggest competitor, Google.
Seems like a weird strategy if you ask me
Because they know who the Boss is. Time to bend over I guess...
2stroke2smoke I
How do you sign up for these rally events?
those are the real questions
holy shit chase, how far you've come!
ryan sanders 😂 that was the start of me spending all my money on racing
Watch the top gear version of this 'top gear budget rally'. They spend around 3,4 thousand pound ( around 5000 dollars), that's with all modifications making it rally legal. They take them down to a local track and have a great time against other budget cars. Seems much more appealing than spending 15000$ on this pile of Honda.
Keep in mind they were doing (European) Rallycross not Stage Rally.
Rallycross and stage rally are completely different disciplines
lmao, get a cheap fwd car for like 1k, put 2k into parts. Good tires, good suspension, and boom, that's all you need to learn the basics.
You need turbo Weight reduction forged Pistons, etc etc
GuilleL51 [GD] you NEED turbo,forged pistons,weight reduction,is it in regulations or something ? You just need a car and a license to start racing for real
Boar Garage yeah ik but can you drift with a 70 hp fiesta? I mean i know its fun and cheap but with some cheap customizations you can have a nice car with more hp
GuilleL51 [GD] You can drift anything on wet gravel/dirt.
do you honestly think its hard to drift?
Oversteer in a front wheel drive.... makes me miss my corsa.
haha
i guess she ended in a ditch
It was understeer
Ken Block lol. Also 20k is not a small budget. Thats literally a deposit for a house. Pretty sure you can just pay for a day out in a rally type car on a track for a couple of thousand. Good vid though. Thanks for uploading.
Why did he even mention a rear differential on a fwd car...
Cut the hair, change the voice. BOOM. Danny Duncan, Rally edition.
The Honda Fit/Jazz is a BEAST dressed as a beagle.
Michael de Guzman iiii
As an owner of a 2009 Honda Fit, it's really not a rally car.
Top Gear's budget rallying was much better
My friend says that Forza Motorsport doesn't need rallying but he doesn't realize that rallying is a very good sport. (and it's also so dangerous) So Nitro if ur reading this, don't think rallying is stupid
this is the reason why i'd spend hours watching rally in FIT rather than those street drag race. this is too damn fun.
I can personally confirm that the Honda fit sport is absolutely rally ready
Honestly even if you don’t like to accept it, he was a very important piece on the introduction of the rally and ambassador of the WRC in USA.
And remember this, USA is well known for having people that don’t get involved in rally or even small sporting cars.
THAT’S WHY HE WAS SO IMPORTANT IN THE RALLY WORLD.
My son and I privateered a Group 5 rally car. No greater experience than being his co-driver. BTW, on the cheap, you're probably your own mechanics.
Cars I'd recommend:
BMW E30 325i
Mazda speed 3 (any generation)
Any subaru WRX or a 1st gen legacy turbo
An old AWD audi
or really any FWD car that's under 1400 kilos (3000-ish lbs.)
why FWD? Just curious. At first thought my instinct is to go with RWD.
Rwd slides a lot on dirt. For fast times, that's bad. FWD pulls out of slides on dirt better than RWD but if you just want to have fun and you don't care about time then yes, rwd is a good option.
actually thats just half of the story... FWD is easier to drive i give you that, but in bad conditions like rain and mud if you accelerate hard in a FWD car you'll lose alot of grip because of weight transition
Dat Person Doe. then a Toyota Yaris/Aygo is perfect, 2,400lbs, 104hp and FWD, in fact it could be a unnoticed beast because I haven't seen many people use them in rally even though you can find them for $3000 or less.
Skunkdog Gro
Ford Fiesta, and Opel Adam are also quite good. So good that they're both made into R2 Rally cars.
Going to my first rally tonight :-D night time winter rally
so, how it is?
How did it go good sir?
Are you still alive?
He died
lmao
0:39 is that McLovin?
For $10k you could of got a pretty damn good awd Subaru
Old TopGear could do that with a 1000 british pounds...
Rallycross and Rally are different things...
@@crazycupckake4676 Not to a person who just wants to have fun racing in dirt.
@@eduardoavila646 They're not the same thing eitherway
@@crazycupckake4676 I don't know if you didnt undertand my previous comment or you're trolling, but, for someone who is in vacations or in the weekend and want to have some fun, it doesnt matter if its rallycross, rally, or any of the possible rally derivatives such as regularity rally, speed rally, etc. Its a weekend/vacation fun, with some spare money.
I've done both in the past, and they are the same thing, the difference is only in the investment for starting it. I've had easier times doing like top gear did, and after having some fun and then when i had to comeback to work, i sold the car to another guy wich wanted to do the same thing, and actually got $200 more than i invested.
With this one, i had to get a more recent car, and even selling it in the end, i lost some money.
But for fun purpouses, its the same thing. We are not talking in any way in a professional environment nor championship, wich isnt in the scope of the video anyway.
Nice, love seeing the Honda Fit alive and kicking! Also I thought HPD was a recent thing... Apparently not.
Cheap used FWD is the best for rallying. Whether it be 110hp or 190hp when you’re on a budget, you make due with what you have.
Rally racing is very popular in New Zealand and I can tell you that this is nowhere near budget... Real budget rally is getting something like a 2nd gen Subaru Legacy, stripping the interior and installing a half-cage and you’re good to go as long as you’ve got a helmet and gloves...
I found a 2008 Hyundai accent with 94k miles for 1,800. Might be an interesting car to do this with. Slow enough to keep me out of trouble but good to learn.
I work at an arcade making $12 an hour (before deductions) and work 5 days a week. If you can make a rally car with my budget after all the bills and expenses paid let me know.
Or you can buy a WRX for under 10k instead of this piece of shit FWD Honda
Good luck racing in that rally class.
You want to buy your first rally car and race in a 4WD class race? HAHAHA! :DDD
I hope you like mud, because you will eat everyone's
The Fit isn't a POS. My mom drives a 2008 manual Fit and has put 160,000+ miles on it from brand new. It hasn't had any problems unrelated to service, AT ALL. Not to mention it has more room and is faster than my civic. Besides, the other commenters are right, GL racing in AWD class
The funny one
GL competing with cars way faster than a beginner can handle
You will crash
Rallying in a Honda Fit is everything I could ever want out of life... I'm so jealous rn...
The mechanics and repairs are free? They probably cost more than the car.
As someone from Houghton it was a shock to get a shoutout, there's actually a good chance I was watching this rally.
Hell yeah you can get excitement out of 117 horswpower! The iconic ae86 only has 112 and its been shown what that can do
Is there an American that makes rally videos? These posh "explanations" don't solve anything for me in the U.S.
0:38 So when did McLovin become a co-driver?
front wheel drive rally cars are sins of fun
Few mistakes but overall great video, really gives me a look into what should I expect, Im even more excited now. One thing tho, you can get into rally racing for a lot and I mean A LOT cheaper than 18k. You can pick up some car for 1 grand and rally it with no problem, just find a rally where there is no requirement about having a roll cage and you can participate for 1k + entry fee
Ofc having a skid plate under the engine to protect oil pain and transmission from rocks and stuff, rip out the interior, buy some aftermarket steering wheel and muffler delete will give you more of a rally feel, but those are extras
Ofc having a skid plate under the engine to protect oil pain and transmission from rocks and stuff, rip out the interior, buy some aftermarket steering wheel and muffler delete will give you more of a rally feel, but those are extras
1. There’s no such thing as rally without a roll cage
2. There’s also no such thing as buying a rallycar for 1k and just going and driving it with no issues. If you get a rallycar for 1k, be prepared to spend hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars to get it remotely stage worthy
3. Motorsports are inherently expensive. If you’re looking for cheap, rally is not the sport for you. I would recommend curling or badminton
@@RallyKJ Overall you are 100% right, and I agree with you, but at least here (Australia) there are S1 rally sprints, which are the really base level events.
They are set up so you can't reach that high speeds, and you can just use your road car in them; all you need is a helmet.
I would imagine most other countries would have similar events.
@@Sussex192 oh yeah we have those in America too. That’s what we call rallycross. Completely different than rally tho
For the people who don't thin 8k is cheap, they are talking relative to standard wrc costs, which are atleast 100,000 minimum, talking generously
Im sure hes a good driver but winning first place in a stock honda fit? that doesnt speak well of the competition, shoot the civic si shouldve been destroying them until it got stuck.
god damm 8 years later maybe 9 at the time of watching this and fit prices have shot back up 9-10k crazy times
Mit-chi-gan
One thing I don't agree with is the "man vs machine" portion mentioned around 1:07 - you have to be one with your car and it HAS to be an extension of yourself otherwise you're going to run wide and wrap the car around a tree :|
Was he sponsored by the BSA or was he an eagle scout? Also why honda fit?
Jesus Christ a Honda Jazz that's 6 years old (video is 2015) and it's still that expensive! Should be half that!
Like ken block? hes over rated. 😂😂
Wow... All those people you said helped you out and towed you out and you drove right passed your OWN teammate.?!!!! If I heard that right.... Shame on you!
at time 7:09 you did not stop to help your team mate yet someone help you when you were in a ditch in the dark
mgsboedmisodpc2 lol I don't think a 170 hp Honda Fit could pull a car out in semi deep water...
Did you watch the video or listen to the commentary? It was their team mates who were stuck, they waved them on (clearly seen in the video). They waited for sweep, took over an hour to get pulled out (clearly heard in the video). I was at this rally, and drove down that stage the day after in a 4wd SUV with AT tires. There was still a bunch of standing water on the road, with deep mucky ditches in many sections. There was no way the Fit was pulling that car out...
117**
well at that point they were in the lead and heading for a victory. Would be stupid to give ANYONE a tow then. They were lucky to have gotten a tow when needed.
aye126 its 117hp lol
You’re a good looking dude but when you’re driving with your helmet you look like a completely different person lol
LMAO his go to "rally driver" is someone who's never won a single WRC rally event (best finish 7th) and I'm not even sure if he ever won a single stage. But then anyone that calls a twenty something grand rally car cheap is quite obviously somewhat detached from reality.
With that comeback if I was an opponent I'd be thinking "did they swap drivers?"
Fit s? Lol no. Just get a subaru.
You know at least in Ireland you can get an 02 wrx for 3k and you get awd and 230 hp which is pretty much stock ready for rally
there is no subaru in this world that is ready for rallying stock
10 Grand is ridculously huge sum of money ! you cant call that a budget !
beginer rally drivers should not spend more then 500$ on a car. then just go and drive and learn. crash it try to fix it and just drive and learn and crash untill you are ready for somthing beter
He said "Mitch"igan 😁😁
"Welding up the differential"
So then why are you showing us the rear?
you could have got a subaru wrx for 8k easy a good one at that but that prob put you in a higher class
It would and is probably more dangerous for a first time rally racer
How old of a car are we talking here though? I live in michigan and i've seen 2005 WRX'S go for 10-15k all day long.
RIP Ken Block
Dont buy a fit buy a old Mitsubishi or Subaru even some old toyotas are better choices
Unless you already have a honda fit with great snow tyres like i do
Logitech G29: $300
Dirt Rally 2.0: $20
PC: $500-$2000
Total: $820-$2320
No offense but those Honda fits are horrible
They aren't fast (especially the originals)
There's hardly any aftermarket parts
And they aren't even that reliable
Thomas Knight it's a Honda, aftermarket parts are plenty when it has a multitude of swap options like K20 B18 B20 H22
you could buy a purpose built rallye car, for example impreza for ~10k
A 500k Fiesta lol what a waste
It's anything but a Fiesta mate. Nothing is the same, not even the body.
+The Wanderer a build for 500k is a waste it could of been done for 100k never said it was a shit car my impreza is fully built pushing about the same hp with Bilstein suspension kit plus many more extras spent around 30k
Daniel Albrittain
So they spent 400k on drugs? Otherwise how did they waste so much money if 100k would have given them the same results?
+wolfmannn2008 maybe a little on drugs only way i see it costing 500k if they had it built for them i do all my work on my cars i have a lot of help because i work a great shop and i don't pay for a lot of expensive things like programming maps etc
It's pretty simple see. The big companies can work off of the fact that since they have money, they can use it to make more money. Sure you can weld your own roll cage, piping, chassis, and all that, but who did it? Not a big company that will pay you to advertise their gear. The sheer amount of money you could get if your name was Ken Block and you spent 20,000 grand on a top of the line, trademarked roll cage outweighs the purchase price. Imagine the advertising revenue when you post their logo among the countless others you'll have on you're rally car. Oh you'll be making well over 500k. The 100k goes to the car, the other 400k is an investment. Also, another big thing about the automotive industry. Don't get me wrong, I am very much impressed by your build (and I love Imprezas), but not everyone knows that building a rally car is a very achievable goal. If it was, who would be sitting at home watching Ken Block do it? No, instead the industry is going to put on big price tags that say "you can't afford this" so people won't attempt it. Frankly, you can see this same business pattern in a lot of things you can build; like PC's and firearms. The demand will switch from the product itself to the parts that make it. Thankfully, we are at a happy medium where parts are cheap, but not so cheap that they aren't produced at all or are ridiculously expensive, (hint: airsoft).
10 grand for a jazz fucking hell here in the UK they are scrap value you can get as lowest as £100
10k for that car? Isnt a golf cheaper? Or a peugeot 206?
You must have to be really shit to be beat by a...*cough*...stock Honda Fit and some dude who has never driven in a rally before lol
If you wanna refer to a rally god it's Henri Toivone
You could pick up a cheap bugeye subie for way less than 10k.
Get a junkyard car for some really cheap rallying 😁 (of course fixed a bit with some cheap mods) Just don't expect 1st place. You're there for the enjoyment 👍
Wait...10 grand is supposed to be cheap? FML I knew I was poor but that takes the piss. Go buy an old Impreza off eBay for 1,000 and use that instead, jesus who the fuck spends 10k on a car they 100% know they will put in a ditch. When you use the word 'budget' maybe keep the total under a grand yeah.
wait, ten grand , then 8 grand modifying it!!! HAHAHAHA FUCKING HELL, 18 GRAND!!!!
You picked Ken Block purely for the tags!
So many, way better and way more accomplished rally drivers to choose from
Not really in the US lol. It’s either him or pastrana
Samir you're breaking the car.........
I would recommend with old hatchback just like late 80s and 90s, bcus it's way cheaper.
I could buy a used 1.6L car for a grand if I looked hard enough. And considering it'd be your first try and there will be mistakes, costly mistakes at that, 10k is a bit excessive lol
honda ge8 specs posted somewhere?
so how would you go out there without a skid plate? aren't you worried about the oil pan?
You 100% need a bash plate.
If you have any metal skills you can make one up yourself, or it should be a pretty cheap job to get someone else to do it.
Doesn't need to be pretty, just strong.