This is my favorite video of yours yet. Never knew how emotional these scenes were until this project. The prolonged shot on Hosea says so much. Beautifully done.
In the end, this was Dutch acknowledging that it was kinda over. That in the end, they did it. They fought the law, the government, the forced laws and rules. They fought to carve out theor own place in the world...and they did. In their own little way, they beat them. They won. Whatever else happens, Dutch and Hosea, they did it.
I just played at this part of the game. To believe these interactions are like movie scenes if you film it like this instead of just standing and looking at them in game is crazy
Oh we understand where you are coming from. Standing around just staring at them now makes you feel like a 3rd wheel. They barely even acknowledge arthur if he happens to be standing near by as well which to us, means he shouldn't even have been there.
1:14 the angle on Dutch and the fact he doesn’t blink makes him appear so unhinged😢💔 when i saw this in camp it seemed genuine, spoken sweetly, but in his eyes… i see his desperation to be believed in.
The slight pull in on Hosea before he picks his head up mid convo emphasizing the emotional discrepancy between the two at this moment is great! It is amazing to see such a minor interaction given the weight it calls for. Bravo
What I love most about that convo is that they're holding hands as they reminisce. I love tothunk of them as an old married couple lookin back on the good ol days
@@kbowman968 🤔 i do kind of remember that. If you ever find it let us know. I feel like it was a camp interaction but I can see it in a mission as well. Just some of the banter they do when not talking about the mission itself
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show I just played that mission, the one where Dutch, Arthur, and Hosea go fishing. Dutch reminisces about the old guard and it’s Hosea that calls them the curious couple and their unruly son. Hope that helps! The mission is called The New South I believe.
Which makes this whole thing make complete sense. They really are like a married couple trying to lead the gang. Even tho things have gone bad in their life together, they still stuck by each others side. Thanks for bringing that up. I knew I had heard a line like that before. Been so long since I've played chapter 3
@@SabrinaRed i think dutch believes all this. He believes they are safe and out of trouble. They may have gotten away from the law down south, but they aren't getting away from the Pinkertons. I just absolutely love the look on Hosea's face. How concerned he is
Very possible. Hosea is one of the only ones that can convince him of a new plan. But if Dutch really has something he wants to do, even Hosea can't talk him out of it sometimes.
I agree. I think Dutch is trying to be genuine and just trying to have a moment with him. But Hosea seems stand offish and by the crack in his voice when he gasps or whatever you want to call it when he is biting his lip, he seems like he wants to believe everything is gonna work, but in the back of his mind he is having doubts about him.
If you talk to Hosea immediately after, he sadly says "Am I stuck in the past, Arthur?" He knows his heart has been broken. He loves Dutch, but he's not sure this is the same man he fell in love with so long ago.
This is the first video of yours I've seen. This idea to make the interactions into cinematic cutscenes is awesome. There is so much more emotion and human details I never caught in the moment at camp. And how you framed the shots were perfect! You certainly know what you're doing. Definitely, keep it up!
Aww thanks for checking us out! Its insane the amount of emotions you can miss in 3rd person. But its also amazing that all that emotion and human detail is still present even when you are not looking at them close up. Rockstar and the actors did an extraordinary job. We still have alot to learn, but we are understanding the techniques and researching alot about filmmaking😁
Wow this was amazing!! The emotional displays during these camp convos aren't always easy to see in game, but man- you guys made me see this convo in a WHOLE new light. You can really see Hosea's expressions and this scene has so much more under the surface. Thanks for sharing this one with us, it is truly amazing!!!
Wow this is really amazing and gives me a new perspective on their mindset at this point in the game. As someone who loves the art of acting and performing it’s so cool to see how the actors put lots of subtleties into these campfire scenes. These details are SO easily missable when you play the game but what you folks are doing really brings out those great details and adds so much to the depth of the characters. Keep up the great work cowpokes!
They really did such an amazing job! We are so happy to hear you really enjoy this scene. We knew everyone would like it. It really feels straight out of a movie or TV show
This is not even a cutscene but just one small part of so many interaction going on the the party and look at the performance capture. Most other game don't even fo performance captures for actual mission cutscenes.
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show this actually follows a lot of cinematography rules used in movies it’s insane, such as having light on one side of the face and shadow on the other
@@majumder456 that cool for you to notice! We never followed the rules till now. But it does make for some good shots, but breaking the rules makes things look better in a way. Like some of the framework done in the Pearson and Reverend interaction. I like the swap to the other side. Plus alot of the time their good side isn't in the good lighting or whatnot. So we try and do work arounds. Also moving clouds every so often helps to get the best lighting for daytime shots. And we just now started adding extra lighting when possible. Side note: we started researching all that stuff over the past year way after the start and its crazy to see the improvements. Not just the cinematography but the camera mod itself really improved.
This is beautifully shot, there's a scene where they were holding hands; so many scenes of them touching each other, etc, they were lovers, which makes Dutch's slip of his mental state even sadder.
There is still one more remake to be done with this one. It will be shown when we end up remaking the actual episode of the party. The reason it was cut was to legthen the expression on Hosea's face. Something that really struck us was how concerned he looks. But when it is remade for the actual episode, it will include a good angle with them holding hands
Also thank you so much for saying it was beautifully shot 🥰 We believe this is our best camp interaction we have made so far. Adding the light is what really made it.
Been watching a few of your videos. This is so good. It gives more emotional depth and showcases more the great acting this game has. I can't be sure about the rest of the gang members but Dutch cared about Hosea. He truly did.
This is an incredible video. I love how the shots are taken and how it's like watching a movie. I noticed in particular that the lighting on their faces, to me, represents their true selves: Hosea has most of the light on his face to represent the goodness while on Dutch's it seems like it's foreshadowing his turning away from what he once was. By the way I look at their faces I imagine how even Hosea is losing hope, given that he was the one who would always provide council with Dutch's big decisions. Either that or also he knows that his time's coming soon.
it makes me SO happy that you understand exactly what we were going for. we really thought about moving the lantern slightly to light up dutch’s face a bit more but we ended up keeping it because it helps emphasize the contrast in these characters.
@@norakiyote1642 The effort you've put in really pays off and I hope many more appreciate your work!! There are so many things even I could've missed but that really stood out for me and it's just so pleasing to see the foreshadowing. I just recollect Harvey Dent/Two-Face and I see Hosea as Harvey and Dutch as Two-Face. Even the dialogue conveys so much but granted that's on the actor's part. Although I'm not sure about the facial animations but it certainly adds to the scene and again, the foreshadowing. It's perfect as it is!!
2 older men, reminiscing about their promise to fight against industrialization for their whole lives. Just sort of an eerie tone to it, because we know that they lose that war. But Dutch’s words "we did it" to me is Dutch saying that no matter what happens after this, they tried to live free and fight back and that matters more than winning.
You are so right! They've been through alot together. So many many years. Dutch wants to believe they have made it out, and for now at this point they kind of have. But it doesn't last long at all. If Dutch would just listen to Hosea more, things could have turned out different😔
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show I wish to believe that but I think the gang was doomed if they kept doing what they were doing. If Hosea allowed the gang to change their actions to meet the times of 1899. Hence, less robbing and swindling they might’ve made it intact. But the gang members can’t change their nature, that is who they are. Even John. He tries to reform and change but he can’t fight his own nature as a gunslinger born to sling guns. So the gang was doomed from the start in my opinion.
In episode 4 of season 2, he talks about how him and Bessy was around the cumblerand forest area. He also talks about how much he misses her around the campfire, which we should be going into that very soon. Around this time it seems he is missing her a lot. He talks about her a few times in chapter 2. Its just so sad 😢
1:05 “We did it, Hosea. Whatever else happens, we did it.” This quote will forever be my favourite in rdr2, what makes this quote so special is that you care about what else happens in the game at that moment; at that moment you are presented. This is again just my opinion but the “good ending” wasn’t Arthur looking out at the sunrise or John’s wedding, it was this. This small interaction between Dutch and Hosea.
Well thank you for this!! Maybe one day rockstar will see the show. They paid a big director to film a little in rdr1. I think it was The Man from Blackwater or something like that, and he did his own stuff. It is very good but it of course isn't up to our standards. We've set our standards very high now and we will not lower them
Once we get everything done, we do plan on making a long cut for each version and picking and choosing what would be a good story flow. That was also the initial plan for chapter 1. But our editing software was being finicky and wouldn't render a 3 hour video. Glad to know someone else things a movie idea would be great 🥰🥰
@@Raphael-wv8tt whoa! That's impressive cowpoke! I hope we are able to show some stuff you haven't seen 😁😁 going through it 10 times, you would think you have seen everything 😂
I love these videos. It shows off so many little things that can be hard to notice in-game due to the camera placement. That long shot of Hosea is my favourite.
That one shot of hosea is our favorite too 😄 we even made it our back ground picture on our workstation. Its amazing how well made alot of things are considering you can't see everything when playing in 3rd person.
To film this, did you have to load up a save before this interaction happened to continue filming different angles? I imagine you might’ve had to do this 5 times. If not, I’m extremely curious how you filmed it!
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This is my favorite video of yours yet. Never knew how emotional these scenes were until this project. The prolonged shot on Hosea says so much. Beautifully done.
Glad you love it Partner! It is definitely one of our favorites as well! 🥰
Dutch and Hosea having a serious talk:
The whole gang: The RinG DaNg dOoh WhAt is ThAt
🤣🤣🤣 yeees and both the conversation and ring dang doo end at the same time 😆
In the end, this was Dutch acknowledging that it was kinda over. That in the end, they did it. They fought the law, the government, the forced laws and rules. They fought to carve out theor own place in the world...and they did. In their own little way, they beat them. They won. Whatever else happens, Dutch and Hosea, they did it.
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Perfectly put. Maybe the gang never reached paradise, but they found a family and a purpose to live for. That is a beautiful thing.
They fought the law and the law won 🎶
I just played at this part of the game. To believe these interactions are like movie scenes if you film it like this instead of just standing and looking at them in game is crazy
Oh we understand where you are coming from. Standing around just staring at them now makes you feel like a 3rd wheel. They barely even acknowledge arthur if he happens to be standing near by as well which to us, means he shouldn't even have been there.
1:14 the angle on Dutch and the fact he doesn’t blink makes him appear so unhinged😢💔
when i saw this in camp it seemed genuine, spoken sweetly, but in his eyes… i see his desperation to be believed in.
Its chilling 🥺
The slight pull in on Hosea before he picks his head up mid convo emphasizing the emotional discrepancy between the two at this moment is great! It is amazing to see such a minor interaction given the weight it calls for. Bravo
Thank you Ian! We are glad you noticed the slight pull in. This scene is so powerful
What I love most about that convo is that they're holding hands as they reminisce. I love tothunk of them as an old married couple lookin back on the good ol days
They for sure act like a married couple sometimes 🤣 but hosea does seem to have mixed feelings like he had heard this before
I can’t remember which one says it but they refer to themselves and Arthur as The Curious Couple and Their Unruly Son
@@kbowman968 🤔 i do kind of remember that. If you ever find it let us know. I feel like it was a camp interaction but I can see it in a mission as well. Just some of the banter they do when not talking about the mission itself
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show I just played that mission, the one where Dutch, Arthur, and Hosea go fishing. Dutch reminisces about the old guard and it’s Hosea that calls them the curious couple and their unruly son. Hope that helps! The mission is called The New South I believe.
Which makes this whole thing make complete sense. They really are like a married couple trying to lead the gang. Even tho things have gone bad in their life together, they still stuck by each others side.
Thanks for bringing that up. I knew I had heard a line like that before. Been so long since I've played chapter 3
Sometimes, I get sad thinking how Hosea would be heartbroken to see the killer Dutch would become years later
Oh he'd be devastated! Might have killed him himself 😳
these shots make it feel so much more personal, and i never noticed dutch trying to meet hosea’s eyes at 0:37 until now!
Ben and Curzon did such an amazing job ❤
This was such an emotional scene and Dutch doing that really made him seem so sincere and like he really cared. 😢
@@SabrinaRed i think dutch believes all this. He believes they are safe and out of trouble. They may have gotten away from the law down south, but they aren't getting away from the Pinkertons. I just absolutely love the look on Hosea's face. How concerned he is
Dutch desperately trying to make Hosea think he hasn't lost his mind. Never change,Van Der Linde.
He really is. Trying to say anything to get Hosea to believe him.
Or maybe he’s not crazy when he’s around hosea
Very possible. Hosea is one of the only ones that can convince him of a new plan. But if Dutch really has something he wants to do, even Hosea can't talk him out of it sometimes.
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show
Idk this felt very genuine
I agree. I think Dutch is trying to be genuine and just trying to have a moment with him. But Hosea seems stand offish and by the crack in his voice when he gasps or whatever you want to call it when he is biting his lip, he seems like he wants to believe everything is gonna work, but in the back of his mind he is having doubts about him.
If you talk to Hosea immediately after, he sadly says "Am I stuck in the past, Arthur?" He knows his heart has been broken. He loves Dutch, but he's not sure this is the same man he fell in love with so long ago.
This is the first video of yours I've seen. This idea to make the interactions into cinematic cutscenes is awesome. There is so much more emotion and human details I never caught in the moment at camp. And how you framed the shots were perfect! You certainly know what you're doing. Definitely, keep it up!
Aww thanks for checking us out! Its insane the amount of emotions you can miss in 3rd person. But its also amazing that all that emotion and human detail is still present even when you are not looking at them close up. Rockstar and the actors did an extraordinary job.
We still have alot to learn, but we are understanding the techniques and researching alot about filmmaking😁
Wow this was amazing!! The emotional displays during these camp convos aren't always easy to see in game, but man- you guys made me see this convo in a WHOLE new light. You can really see Hosea's expressions and this scene has so much more under the surface. Thanks for sharing this one with us, it is truly amazing!!!
Yeah no problem at all! 🥰 we are happy you really like it! And we are happy to give everyone a different perspective on every interaction 😁
they were so in love
They had a really good friendship. Many many moments of life and death situations and they always came out together 🥹
Wow this is really amazing and gives me a new perspective on their mindset at this point in the game. As someone who loves the art of acting and performing it’s so cool to see how the actors put lots of subtleties into these campfire scenes. These details are SO easily missable when you play the game but what you folks are doing really brings out those great details and adds so much to the depth of the characters. Keep up the great work cowpokes!
They really did such an amazing job! We are so happy to hear you really enjoy this scene. We knew everyone would like it. It really feels straight out of a movie or TV show
This is not even a cutscene but just one small part of so many interaction going on the the party and look at the performance capture. Most other game don't even fo performance captures for actual mission cutscenes.
This one is still one of our favorite scenes we remade. Curzin and Ben did such an amazing job on this one.
Dude, this looks like a movie scene this is awesome
Thank ya!! This was definitely one of our favorites
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show this actually follows a lot of cinematography rules used in movies it’s insane, such as having light on one side of the face and shadow on the other
@@majumder456 that cool for you to notice! We never followed the rules till now. But it does make for some good shots, but breaking the rules makes things look better in a way. Like some of the framework done in the Pearson and Reverend interaction. I like the swap to the other side. Plus alot of the time their good side isn't in the good lighting or whatnot. So we try and do work arounds. Also moving clouds every so often helps to get the best lighting for daytime shots. And we just now started adding extra lighting when possible.
Side note: we started researching all that stuff over the past year way after the start and its crazy to see the improvements. Not just the cinematography but the camera mod itself really improved.
This is beautifully shot, there's a scene where they were holding hands; so many scenes of them touching each other, etc, they were lovers, which makes Dutch's slip of his mental state even sadder.
There is still one more remake to be done with this one. It will be shown when we end up remaking the actual episode of the party. The reason it was cut was to legthen the expression on Hosea's face. Something that really struck us was how concerned he looks. But when it is remade for the actual episode, it will include a good angle with them holding hands
Also thank you so much for saying it was beautifully shot 🥰 We believe this is our best camp interaction we have made so far. Adding the light is what really made it.
great job, again
Thank you! 🥰🥰
Been watching a few of your videos. This is so good.
It gives more emotional depth and showcases more the great acting this game has.
I can't be sure about the rest of the gang members but Dutch cared about Hosea. He truly did.
Thank you! I would say Dutch does care about the others alot, but now so for hosea and arthur
This is an incredible video. I love how the shots are taken and how it's like watching a movie. I noticed in particular that the lighting on their faces, to me, represents their true selves: Hosea has most of the light on his face to represent the goodness while on Dutch's it seems like it's foreshadowing his turning away from what he once was. By the way I look at their faces I imagine how even Hosea is losing hope, given that he was the one who would always provide council with Dutch's big decisions. Either that or also he knows that his time's coming soon.
We were just talking about this when making it ☺☺ it really shows the character development early on and this is exactly how we wanted to convey it
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show I'm very very impressed with your work. Keep up the good work!!!
@@dno7567 we won't let you down!
it makes me SO happy that you understand exactly what we were going for. we really thought about moving the lantern slightly to light up dutch’s face a bit more but we ended up keeping it because it helps emphasize the contrast in these characters.
@@norakiyote1642 The effort you've put in really pays off and I hope many more appreciate your work!! There are so many things even I could've missed but that really stood out for me and it's just so pleasing to see the foreshadowing. I just recollect Harvey Dent/Two-Face and I see Hosea as Harvey and Dutch as Two-Face. Even the dialogue conveys so much but granted that's on the actor's part. Although I'm not sure about the facial animations but it certainly adds to the scene and again, the foreshadowing. It's perfect as it is!!
ok guys i love this seriousness i promise, but i also love the gang singing the ring dang doo in the back lmao
Lol don't worry! You can also see Ring Dang Doo in its own video on our channel, or check out episode 3 in season 2 😁😁
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show already have it liked my lads!!!
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same! I love the contrast. such perfect timing.
2 older men, reminiscing about their promise to fight against industrialization for their whole lives. Just sort of an eerie tone to it, because we know that they lose that war. But Dutch’s words "we did it" to me is Dutch saying that no matter what happens after this, they tried to live free and fight back and that matters more than winning.
You are so right! They've been through alot together. So many many years. Dutch wants to believe they have made it out, and for now at this point they kind of have. But it doesn't last long at all. If Dutch would just listen to Hosea more, things could have turned out different😔
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show I wish to believe that but I think the gang was doomed if they kept doing what they were doing. If Hosea allowed the gang to change their actions to meet the times of 1899. Hence, less robbing and swindling they might’ve made it intact. But the gang members can’t change their nature, that is who they are. Even John. He tries to reform and change but he can’t fight his own nature as a gunslinger born to sling guns. So the gang was doomed from the start in my opinion.
Imagine a prequel game where we play Hosea in his prime, actually experience these events they are reminiscing about
That would be really cool! There are so many stories Hosea has, and a telling of his life would be perfect for rdr3.
I really wanna know about his wife story and not disappointed like arthur and Mary story
In episode 4 of season 2, he talks about how him and Bessy was around the cumblerand forest area. He also talks about how much he misses her around the campfire, which we should be going into that very soon. Around this time it seems he is missing her a lot. He talks about her a few times in chapter 2. Its just so sad 😢
1:05 “We did it, Hosea. Whatever else happens, we did it.” This quote will forever be my favourite in rdr2, what makes this quote so special is that you care about what else happens in the game at that moment; at that moment you are presented. This is again just my opinion but the “good ending” wasn’t Arthur looking out at the sunrise or John’s wedding, it was this. This small interaction between Dutch and Hosea.
@Cyberfly127 this was the true turning point for the whole game. They said the line, and it caused nothing but chaos from here on out
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show Yeah, it’s called Irony, I think that’s another reason why this quote is so important.
Good idea with the lantern like a real little film set.
Thanks Jotrius! Its so crazy how much it changes the shot. And your camera mod did an amazing job at keeping the quality on their faces
Wow this was so beautifully captured!
I just discovered this, the camera work is insanely good ❤
Thank you so much! Still to this day, this is one of our favorite scenes we recorded
I just discovered your channel and I got to say thank you this is dope asf to watch these
Welcome welcome! Always glad to have new people finding out about us 🥰 let us know what you think as you give the episodes a watch 😁
Imagine this cutscene played out in between Arthur's death and the beginning of the epilogue. That would just add to the pain of it all for me.
There will be a very good tribute added before and after. We are going to have alot of footage to pull from. We are ALL going to bawl our eyes out 😭
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show Oh god LMAO. I am excited to see it :)
@@Unshaved_Sheev we promise, we won't let you down. This is years away tho
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show I've got time, lol
Good! Maybe when this series is over, we will have that rdr1 remake and we can move onto that as well.
beautiful, R* could make this a legit tv series by having you direct each chapter and mission
Well thank you for this!! Maybe one day rockstar will see the show. They paid a big director to film a little in rdr1. I think it was The Man from Blackwater or something like that, and he did his own stuff. It is very good but it of course isn't up to our standards. We've set our standards very high now and we will not lower them
You could make such an awesome movie out of this game! Would jump up all day if there was a movie out of RDR2!!!
Once we get everything done, we do plan on making a long cut for each version and picking and choosing what would be a good story flow. That was also the initial plan for chapter 1. But our editing software was being finicky and wouldn't render a 3 hour video. Glad to know someone else things a movie idea would be great 🥰🥰
@@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show That would make me very happy!! I love this game! Been through it at least 10 times.
@@Raphael-wv8tt whoa! That's impressive cowpoke! I hope we are able to show some stuff you haven't seen 😁😁 going through it 10 times, you would think you have seen everything 😂
Wow, another awesome video, the shots are amazing
We are glad you think so! Thank you for the kind words! 🥰
this is amazing, good work
Thanks Bill! Uhhh sorry we didn't get a higher quality remake for you yet...but it will come!
I love these videos. It shows off so many little things that can be hard to notice in-game due to the camera placement. That long shot of Hosea is my favourite.
That one shot of hosea is our favorite too 😄 we even made it our back ground picture on our workstation. Its amazing how well made alot of things are considering you can't see everything when playing in 3rd person.
This is great. Please, if it's not too much to ask, make more of these
Oh we will 😁 We will be throwing some lanterns in some shots every now and then.
Dutch looking creepy af
He do be looking crazy 🤣
Love this so much. ❤❤❤
That lantern really made a huge difference 😍
To film this, did you have to load up a save before this interaction happened to continue filming different angles? I imagine you might’ve had to do this 5 times. If not, I’m extremely curious how you filmed it!
Yes that is exactly it. However, we had to go through half of the party each time to get it lol.
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Is this mod or what for they're both conversation like this?
We used Jotrius's Cinematic Camera Mod. You xan find it on Nexus. We had to reload multiple times for each angle
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