History of the Uralic languages

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @iroquoianmapper
    @iroquoianmapper  Год назад +13

    Hi evryone.
    I'm going to make a video about Turkic languages, but my color palette doesn't have enough colors to show the diversity of this language family. So I want to ask you: What is the best way to do it? Should I release a video about each branch (for example, Kipchak, Oghur, Karluk, etc.) or make one video but the classification will not be branched?
    Write in the comments.
    Enjoy the video!

    • @L0KUST1
      @L0KUST1 Год назад +3

      What software are you using to make these videos? If it is something like MS Paint, you can make custom colors. If you have a limited amount of colors, focus on showing the different branches, and possibly label individual regions with just text to show the language.

    • @adszadam3818
      @adszadam3818 Год назад

      Türkler çok büyük topraklarda dağınık olarak yaşamışlar kimi ağızları bir birini iyi anlarken kimi ağızları artık ayrı bir dil haline gelmiştir.

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx Год назад

      why not put small little number tags over areas and have the legend on the side say which language it is. as a deuteronopic colorblind person, it can help.

  • @knockoutnorko7500
    @knockoutnorko7500 9 месяцев назад +3

    Brilliant stuff, love yer videos mate 🧡

  • @meelisrygaberg4832
    @meelisrygaberg4832 2 месяца назад +6

    Needs to be updated to current research. Proto-uralic came to Europe via Seima-Turbino culture from altai/baikal area from 2200bc

  • @salsaproductions5859
    @salsaproductions5859 Год назад +12

    Makes me want to wonder why the Hungarians decide to migrate away….

    • @motetey
      @motetey 4 месяца назад +6

      Due to climate change, the forests where Hungarians lived became steppes. Hungarians adopted a nomadic lifestyle and migrated to the west, like other nomads

  • @mysteriousDSF
    @mysteriousDSF Год назад +13

    The origins of Ugric languages is more likely to be wedged precisely in-between Finnic and Samoyedic rather than being closer to Finnic. Also Sámi languages show some similarities exclusively with Samoyedic languages making a northern migration pattern separate from Finnic general plausible.

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  Год назад +5

      Thank you for your comment!

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx Год назад

      some may have sailed across the barents sea

    • @svetlanaphilipp4868
      @svetlanaphilipp4868 7 месяцев назад +3

      Я -- коми. Хорошо говорю на своём языке. Сравнивала свой язык с другими финно-угорскими языками (по, имеющимся в интернетном пространстве, словарям). Коми по бо́льшей части похож на удмуртский (само собой, и на коми-пермяцкий, практически -- это тот же коми, только диалект другой).
      Так вот... сравнивала коми с другими языками всей уральской языковой семьи. И что я обнаружила? -- По количеству схожих по звучанию и написанию слов коми ближе к саамскому. Их много, скажее вы, -- саамских языков. Не знаю -- какой именно из языков саами был представлен в этом словаре, но, наверное, один из основных, имеющихся на территории России. А их -- несколько.
      Я пришла к такому выводу: саами -- скорее всего, выходцы из наших краёв, а, может, и -- с более восточных территорий, но шло переселение и через нашу территорию. Это моё только предположение. Переселение шло веками и, возможно, шли эти люди по северу, со стадами оленей, в поисках более обильной пищи для оленьих стад...Поэтому и имеется большое количество похожих слов. (?)
      Но наши языки, наши народы давным-давно друг от друга отделились и отдалились... Даже немного грустно от этого... времена делают своё дело.
      С историей не поспоришь. Претензии не к чему и не к кому предъявлять. ТАК сложилось... Данность бытия. Оттого и странная наша судьба.
      Люблю всех!

    • @svetlanaphilipp4868
      @svetlanaphilipp4868 3 месяца назад

      Сравнивала свой коми с разными финно-угорскими языками. С саами -- много сходства. С удмуртским, само собой. Ну, и с другими... А легче всего понимаю, конечно же, коми-пермяков. Практически, это -- один язык, просто другой диалект.

  • @javindhillon6294
    @javindhillon6294 Год назад +5

    Absolute bangers in the background? Ultra-informative? cool looking? 3 thumbs up!

  • @kullulillu
    @kullulillu 2 месяца назад +3

    Greetings from Estonia 🇪🇪. 👋

  • @eliaass6598
    @eliaass6598 7 месяцев назад +24

    It's so sad these languages are dying

    • @saturahman7510
      @saturahman7510 7 месяцев назад +4

      Respect . We must respect them. Greetings from Finland ❤

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 5 месяцев назад +4

      Many of them are severely endangered but Finnish and Estonian are still safe and will carry the flag and future of Uralic peoples. Much love from Turkiye ❤

    • @karenheijnen189
      @karenheijnen189 4 месяца назад +4

      I have good news Livonian is not extinct

    • @Kukkanisti
      @Kukkanisti 3 месяца назад

      ​@@saturahman7510 tässähän on kyse meidän sukukielistä jotka ryssät ja ruotsalaiset on ajanut lähes sukupuuttoon. Tietenkin aito suomalainen veljeskansaa rakastaa, ja Venäjää vihaa

    • @martinkoitmae6655
      @martinkoitmae6655 3 месяца назад

      Finnish and Estonian still have plenty of speakers left

  • @Nastya_07
    @Nastya_07 Год назад +4

    Great, but I feel like the original extent of Volga Finnic (extending to Komi and Nenets), the southern half of the original Sami extent (extending though most of Northern Finland) and the extent of Karelian in the middle ages are kinda inaccurate.
    Also, Sayan Samoyedic wasn't a single language, it was Mator (divergent) and Kamassian (closely related to Selkup, their common ancestor is named Kamas-Selkup)

  • @Lastipiilihytti
    @Lastipiilihytti 2 месяца назад +4

    North of Sweden was finnish speaking, today its called Meänkieli.

  • @drendoiz
    @drendoiz Год назад +3

    Hm, I am not sure where did you get info but i think Sámi languages weren’t spread to the South this much, also in the dissapearing area of Balto-Finnic there was Vepsian spoken already, but not sure

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  Год назад +2

      The area you are talking about to was inhabited by Chud Zavolochskaya, which is mentioned in Russian chronicles. This tribe may have spoken some kind of Balto-Finnish language, but which one is unknown.

  • @flavi9692
    @flavi9692 Год назад +3

    Can't wait for the video about Turkic Languages❤
    ❤❤❤❤❤
    Hope you won't forget about the tatars and Turks in dobruja

  • @Tangerine9407
    @Tangerine9407 Год назад +1

    cool video!

  • @LinksRecht
    @LinksRecht 4 месяца назад +2

    As a person with karelian and vepsian roots I really like it.

  • @Crxyzen1
    @Crxyzen1 5 месяцев назад +2

    There are Turkic borrowings in Proto-Samoyed, indicates Turkic languages are much older than you showed in your video.

  • @Cicero1689
    @Cicero1689 3 месяца назад +2

    Can you do a video on celtic langauges?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  3 месяца назад +3

      I already did it.

    • @Cicero1689
      @Cicero1689 3 месяца назад

      @@iroquoianmapper yes, sorry lol that was a bit obvious on my behalf

  • @ezekielhoffman7345
    @ezekielhoffman7345 Год назад +2

    Amazing work as usual, and the music is just the best) i am very interested about the hungarians that stayed in siberia until the 1300. How much do we know about this? was it still properly hungarian? or did it diverge perhaps?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  Год назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @salsaproductions5859
      @salsaproductions5859 Год назад +2

      Look up frair Julian he was an Hungarian monk who in the 1200s found the Magyars who stayed behind and was able to communicate with them, he later returned only to find them wiped out by the mongols

  • @saturahman7510
    @saturahman7510 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks ! ❤ I live in Mikkeli, eastern-Finland.

  • @svetlanaphilipp4868
    @svetlanaphilipp4868 7 месяцев назад +5

    Спасибо! Очень интересно! Я -- коми.

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  7 месяцев назад +4

      Привет из Нижневартовска!

    • @metamapper4176
      @metamapper4176 4 месяца назад +1

      @@iroquoianmapper стоп, ты из Нижневартовска?

    • @МихаилКолесников-ц9ь
      @МихаилКолесников-ц9ь 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@iroquoianmapperА я думал ты неиронично ирокез...

  • @2Odissey
    @2Odissey 8 месяцев назад +2

    I'm not sure, but most likely the Moksha and Erzya languages are not shown correctly. Historically, the Erzya lived in the northwest of Moksha (Nizhny Novgorod - it used to be the capital of Erzya Obran Osh).

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for the information! I still think that before the Slavs, the Murom tribe lived in the territory of Nizhny Novgorod.

  • @blu9700
    @blu9700 Год назад +1

    After you do the Turkic video, please do Sino-Tibetan!

  • @NESRockman1987
    @NESRockman1987 2 месяца назад

    Hungarian according your map is 3500 years old which is astonishingly old. Indeed it is old but more likely around 3000 years like ancient Latin or something.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 7 месяцев назад +3

    If you split finish and voitc than you definetly need to split northern estonian and southern estonian.

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a question please what was the first culture of the ural people?

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have a question please where is the origin of the proto uralic prople in europe or in asia?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  8 месяцев назад +1

      The ancestral home of the Uralic languages ​​is a very complex question. Some say that they originated from the Kama River basin, others say that from Southern Siberia, but I think that these are the Ural Mountains, the border between Europe and Asia.

    • @Omar24737
      @Omar24737 8 месяцев назад

      @@iroquoianmapper but what is the sure answer

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 7 месяцев назад +2

    Is this the homeland of the proto uralic people? ‏‪0:18‬‏ ‏‪

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes.

    • @Omar24737
      @Omar24737 7 месяцев назад

      @@iroquoianmapper so they originated in europe not in asia right?

  • @kenanhasan9784
    @kenanhasan9784 Год назад +3

    👍👍👍

  • @fennec4
    @fennec4 Год назад +5

    I'm a Nenets

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  Год назад +6

      Hi, and I'm a Russian from the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous region.

    • @fennec4
      @fennec4 Год назад +2

      @@iroquoianmapper а ты в каком городе живешь?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  Год назад +2

      @@fennec4 Нижневартовск.А ты в каком городе? А ты разговариваешь на ненецком?

    • @The_Geographer_Maps
      @The_Geographer_Maps Год назад +2

      @@iroquoianmapper Ого, Я тоже Русский из Буджака! Привет земляк!

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  Год назад +3

      @@The_Geographer_Maps Привет! Русские везде.

  • @Kukkanisti
    @Kukkanisti 3 месяца назад +1

    Crumbles me mentally to see this 😢

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 8 месяцев назад

    I have a question please is this the origin of the proto uralic peoples?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  8 месяцев назад

      It is not known for sure, but it is probably true.

  • @DanielKolbin
    @DanielKolbin Год назад +2

    interesting

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a question please are the uralic people from mongolic or caucasian race?

    • @Omar24737
      @Omar24737 7 месяцев назад

      Can you answer

    • @jooseppaarnamets4175
      @jooseppaarnamets4175 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Omar24737 both some are more asian looking others more white looking one near west look european and ones more into east look asian probably proto urals looked asian

    • @liepalind616
      @liepalind616 4 месяца назад

      Minä en ainakaan näytä yhtään aasialaiselta.

  • @Anton_Danylchenko
    @Anton_Danylchenko Год назад +4

    On which facts the rapid change of western border from 950 to 1200 is based?
    You possibly made an assumption that since those lands became part of Rus' they quickly switched to Slavic in couple of centuries.
    But this is simply not true. Slavs lived only in cities on those territories by 1200, while entire rural area spoke Finno-Ugric languages and continued speaking for centuries ahead. Even in XVII century there were enough Finno-Ugric speakers to the west of Volga (and I talk not about Mordva) and you just removed them all by 1200 pretending that Muscovy emerged on already Slavicised lands and this is not true.

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  Год назад +3

      Thank you for your comment! I took the information for the video from Wikipedia, where the following is written about the tribes of Murom and Merara: "This is in stark contrast to the related tribes of Merya and Murom, which were apparently assimilated by the Eastern Slavs by the 10th and 11th centuries."
      "The Muromites paid tribute to the Russian princes and, like the neighboring Merya tribe, were assimilated by the Eastern Slavs in the 11th-12th centuries, when their territory was incorporated into Russia."
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Finns

    • @liepalind616
      @liepalind616 4 месяца назад

      Venäläisten pyrkimys päästä Pohjoiselle jäämerelle johti tuohon suomalaisten kielten häviämiseen pohjoisilla alueilla. Venäjä on luonteeltaan sisämaavaltio ja heillä on aina tarve valloittaa alueita, joilta on pääsy merelle.

  • @Uralic469
    @Uralic469 Год назад +4

    uralic w

  • @WhattaFook
    @WhattaFook 3 месяца назад +1

    Too bad, I'm hungarian and don't understand these languages. They changed too nuch

  • @msitso
    @msitso 4 месяца назад +1

    Конец грустный😭

  • @unnv-z7b
    @unnv-z7b 2 месяца назад +1

    Привет из Перми

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  2 месяца назад +2

      Привет из Нижневартовска.