Sorry I took so long to post! This video took a while to make, but now I know how to use After Effects better than I did before (Which was nothing back then) It's a nerdy vid but good to know when choosing your monitor. Love y'all! Like/Comment/Sub 😁
you just come get me when we got a nice monitor with ultra responsive panel tech, a 500hz+ refresh rate and 4k, 5k or 8K . I love the firelegend and im set for a good bit!
hey man, i wanna buy a new monitor but i am confused whether i buy the asus rog strix xg248q or the msi mag251rx advise me what to buy i want the one with the better response time and the one that's better for competiteve games like csgo, valorant .. etc answer me when you can. im gonna get it tmrw. appreciate your help thanks ♥
Hey, TheWhale here. First of all I have to say that I appreciate the work you put into this video and the detail and overall view of the whole technical side and its characteristics and conditions. Even the simple explanations are easy to grasp. Things to talk about going forward are IGZO and dual driver technologies. These two things are going to have a huge impact on the high-end gaming market. Best regards, Mark
I have been using the XL2546 specifically for it's DyAc. I had been searching for years looking for a CRT-like experience, Then in 2017 I finally found it! It's important for your fps to at least nearly match the refresh rate for that amazing clarity though. I found that DyAc works perfectly all the way down to 100hz (double strobing below 100hz). So if 100fps is all you can muster up at 1080p, set it to 100hz. You will be in CRT heaven! I can live without single strobing down at 60hz because that is when the strobing flicker actually becomes noticeable anyway.
@@notblazedfordays9536 ahah yeah that can be the case if you don't play just e-sports titles,, What I mean is - depending on what I'm playing, sometimes I wanna turn up graphics settings where having the best input lag is not important. Zero motion blur is my main priority. Also some games just don't do high fps even at 1080p. btw i'm using a 5700xt paired with a 5600x.
@@adamochi854 :). Not too shabby! I really only play games that I get 240+ fps. I’d love to play a more immersive game where I would care way more about graphics but I just don’t have time! I have the 390hz acer aopen/firelegend. The thing is fantastic… especially with my 6900xt, and 5800x… shit was expensive!
framerate=Hz during strobing looks great, if your priority is CRT-like rather than lower esports. 100fps 100Hz strobed can look visually better than 500fps-240Hz because it's perfect Nintendo-smooth pans, especially with Razer 8Khz mouse (set to at least 2KHz), because with DyAc, the 1000Hz mouse pollrate jitters too much. With 2000Hz+ (on Razer 8KHz) mouseturns is as perfectly smooth as keyboard strafe left/right. Strobing amplifies jitter visibility so much, that further improvements actually become visible. Also, consider trying the XG2431. Perfect zero strobe crosstalk (no trailing double images even for top/center/bottom) for a custom 100Hz QFT mode (latency-reducing 100Hz via transmitting a 100Hz refresh cycle in a mere 1/240sec over the video cable), and re-tuned via ViewSonic Strobe Utility windows app (developed by Blur Busters). It looks even clearer than DyAc if you hate strobe crosstalk. Another perfect-zero-crosstalk is the VR headsets of Oculus Quest 2 and the Valve Index -- they are pre-tuned CRT-clarity LCDs that are even better than XL2546. Long term, strobing will become obsolete with blurfree sample and hold (e.g. 1000fps 1000Hz), but for now we're stuck with strobing as the method of blur reduction, rather than brute framerate. (Double Hz and framerate without DyAc = motion blur is only halved. So you have to keep doubling Hz and framerate, until the blur is gone without needing strobing. 480fps 480Hz will have half the motion blur of 240fps 240Hz without needing DyAc)
@@BlurBusters That's interesting about the mouse polling rate having jitter at even 1khz. It's totally noticable comparing strafing in-game to mouse movement, or even using a gamepad. Just as it is noticeable stepping up from lower polling rates. Would you say it could somewhat be related to the refresh rate of the screen not being an even factor of the mouse polling rate? Like how capping the frame rate to a factor of the refresh rate is smoother? I have been playing fps games at 200hz because its much clearer than 240. Perhaps 200 being a factor of 1000🤔or just this xl2546 barely has the response time for that refresh
7:05 🤣 Great vid! One thing worth mentioning is that pixel response times are most commonly measured with GtG (grey to grey) averages, however cranking the overdrive up can show the monitor do fine switching from one colour to another (say GtG), but horribly with a different transition. HUB has good graphs that show the transitions ranging from 0 to 255.
Glad to see you're still on it! Great content with a lot of useful information. This will be one of the reference videos i'll keep saved for when i need to give buying advice. (Which happens a lot with monitors.) There are other high-end VA panels that can hold up with IPS in terms of response times. The Asus PG35VQ and Acer Predator X35 also have very fast average response times, albeit while still suffering from slower dark transitions. But these two monitors are the only ones i know of that use that particular 200Hz VA HDR panel. To my eyes it looks as good as the LG 27GN950-B / LG 27GN850-B in terms of motion clarity, which says a lot. And the games that need good response times are typically bright enough to mostly eliminate dark smearing (excluding Tarkov).
Can you make a similar video to Optimum tech and True game data on what the best settings for input lag are? It'd be pretty cool to see what numbers you come up with.
But you will not reach even 360 hz unless you play valorant or cs go because no CPU can handle that many frames in more demanding games like Apex or Warzone even in low graphics. Also, almost no game support 8000hz polling rate and your game will freeze a lot. As far as I know only valorant supports it.
@@clicknchill. I play Overwatch where I tweaked my setup so far that even my 1% lows are 380fps. And that game also has 8khz support. Also the upcoming ryzen 7000 + rtx 4000 series will surely be able to reach 480fps in warzone. Apex fps cap of 300 will also probably get increased then.
I think VA is a solid buy if you care more about picture quality than motion. While smearing can totally be a thing, it's not that bad and other than the contrast, you also have the lack of IPS glow that can complicate the contrast issue in IPS display even more (although most seem to be decent these days) Totally agree about the compliance and response time though, which is why LCD still has its place even compared to OLED. I sometime found Tim from HUB's claim that OLED with its 2 ms response time is 'twice as fast' compared to LCD Neo G7 4 ms to be quite ridiculous even though they are technically true. You really don't need a response time faster than 4 ms for 144hz and 6 mis for 240hz to have a clear motion. It's the sum of all of its advantage that makes OLED great as a gaming monitor but the gap is smaller than most people think (because you also have some trade-off to deal with as well)
Where can I see more of these charts like those at 4:44? I am looking for good Grey to Grey performance times with adaptive sync for a 24-25 inch monitor at 144, 180 and 240 Hz refresh rate. Thank you!
Hey Bijan, just a question. How do you know how much response time do a monitor really has? Its some kind of test that you have to make once you purchase a unit or...?
This is one to save. Lots of great info, and you did a great job tying each topic to the next. Very easy to follow. My question about QD OLED is brightness. They seem to be much dimmer than most other options. Burn also concerns me, but so far the reviews are solid.
Brightness is so far my only concern. Burn in is possible but I think I won't be too worried about it because of Aleinwares warranty and also it just uses much less power which means less burn in chance.
I personally cancelled my preorder of the AW3423DW due to the number of issues that came up since it's release but i still look forward to see your take on it! Let us know what you think about it's debated subpixel layout, fan noise and "off" color accuracity at higher brightness. Keep up the great video quality! A bit feedback about the video: I'd suggest running your intro after the initial "opening" to instantly catch new viewers. Sound for the intro doesn't hurt either.
@@BijanJamshidi Mostly the stuff i mentioned above is what put me off. Color fringing (because of the subpixel layout), fan noise that varies a lot across different units, color accuracity falling off significantly at high luminance in HDR, flickering in some games with G-Sync enabled (Only a small problem from what i've seen and in very few games.) Currently i'm still set with my PG35VQ and i'll wait and see what LG's 42" C2 and Sony's 42" OLED will bring before i'll decide to upgrade to OLED or stay with my LCD for another generation.
could u do an ufo test comparison between the "BenQ ZOWIE XL2746K" vs "ViewSonic ELITE XG270" with all possible tools that they have to offer (PureXP+ & DyAc+) in terms of response time and ghosting. 🙂@Bijan Jamshidi
I’m primarily a Valorant and CSGO player as a result I’ve been using the BenQ XL2546K for the last year and a bit and was just wondering what your thoughts on the upcoming Asus PG27AQN are? 1440p @360hz sounds like a dream but motion clarity will always be my number one priority. If not the Asus are there any other high refresh rate monitors in the works that could dethrone the Dyac+ motion clarity?
You have come a long way since I last commented on one of your videos, well done. It is a shame to see so few views on such an informative and well produced video but unfortunately the reality is that the same reason that boxes saying "1ms response time and 100000000000000:1 contrast ratio" sell monitors is because people consistently will not commit to learning the details, even when presented like this. And Samsung was able to get away with jumping on the 240hz train using the same VA panel tech they had been using and selling to others for several years prior (and measuring terribly) then exit the LCD industry altogether as they have just announced. Your visualizations are pleasing to look at and effective, honestly great work. The only thing I can add (which you partially covered) is that every pixel will reach compliance at a different rate depending on what state it was changing from and what state it is changing to, overall you could definitely measure and possibly perceive a difference between a monitor where 85% of the pixels were reaching compliance after 1ms vs a monitor where 85% of the pixels were reaching compliance
bro i had no idea that terrible blue ghosting was caused by an overdrive setting. i immediately found that setting on my monitor and turned it down cus it was on extreme and definitely causing problems. super helpful vid.
Hey Bijan, got any pointers for some monitors with extremely low response times, input lag and motion blur? Been looking at the BenQ Zowie and these new 360hz panels but I’m uncertain. Also, thank you for staying consistent with great content. Seems like just yesterday when you had below 10K subs. Your channel has come along nicely.
I'm buying MAG251RX because of your videos. But I actually wanted ZOWIE XL2546K, reconsidering that I will not only do games but also watching youtube and other streaming platforms I will be buying MSI. Plus MSI is cheaper T.T Thank you! This video and other vids from you are so helpful! 💯
Sorry I took so long to post! This video took a while to make, but now I know how to use After Effects better than I did before (Which was nothing back then)
It's a nerdy vid but good to know when choosing your monitor. Love y'all!
Like/Comment/Sub 😁
you just come get me when we got a nice monitor with ultra responsive panel tech, a 500hz+ refresh rate and 4k, 5k or 8K . I love the firelegend and im set for a good bit!
It's a greta video man , welcome back 💫
hey man, i wanna buy a new monitor but i am confused whether i buy the asus rog strix xg248q or the msi mag251rx
advise me what to buy
i want the one with the better response time and the one that's better for competiteve games like csgo, valorant .. etc
answer me when you can. im gonna get it tmrw. appreciate your help thanks ♥
Where are you bro?
Can you do review for the new QD oled aw34
Great vid, shame its 3k views ;/
Thank you! :)
Hey, TheWhale here. First of all I have to say that I appreciate the work you put into this video and the detail and overall view of the whole technical side and its characteristics and conditions. Even the simple explanations are easy to grasp.
Things to talk about going forward are IGZO and dual driver technologies. These two things are going to have a huge impact on the high-end gaming market. Best regards, Mark
I have been using the XL2546 specifically for it's DyAc. I had been searching for years looking for a CRT-like experience, Then in 2017 I finally found it! It's important for your fps to at least nearly match the refresh rate for that amazing clarity though. I found that DyAc works perfectly all the way down to 100hz (double strobing below 100hz). So if 100fps is all you can muster up at 1080p, set it to 100hz. You will be in CRT heaven! I can live without single strobing down at 60hz because that is when the strobing flicker actually becomes noticeable anyway.
If you’re playing 1080p and can only muster up 100hz it’s time to upgrade your GPU and CPU lol
@@notblazedfordays9536 ahah yeah that can be the case if you don't play just e-sports titles,, What I mean is - depending on what I'm playing, sometimes I wanna turn up graphics settings where having the best input lag is not important. Zero motion blur is my main priority. Also some games just don't do high fps even at 1080p. btw i'm using a 5700xt paired with a 5600x.
@@adamochi854 :). Not too shabby! I really only play games that I get 240+ fps. I’d love to play a more immersive game where I would care way more about graphics but I just don’t have time! I have the 390hz acer aopen/firelegend. The thing is fantastic… especially with my 6900xt, and 5800x… shit was expensive!
framerate=Hz during strobing looks great, if your priority is CRT-like rather than lower esports. 100fps 100Hz strobed can look visually better than 500fps-240Hz because it's perfect Nintendo-smooth pans, especially with Razer 8Khz mouse (set to at least 2KHz), because with DyAc, the 1000Hz mouse pollrate jitters too much. With 2000Hz+ (on Razer 8KHz) mouseturns is as perfectly smooth as keyboard strafe left/right. Strobing amplifies jitter visibility so much, that further improvements actually become visible.
Also, consider trying the XG2431. Perfect zero strobe crosstalk (no trailing double images even for top/center/bottom) for a custom 100Hz QFT mode (latency-reducing 100Hz via transmitting a 100Hz refresh cycle in a mere 1/240sec over the video cable), and re-tuned via ViewSonic Strobe Utility windows app (developed by Blur Busters). It looks even clearer than DyAc if you hate strobe crosstalk. Another perfect-zero-crosstalk is the VR headsets of Oculus Quest 2 and the Valve Index -- they are pre-tuned CRT-clarity LCDs that are even better than XL2546.
Long term, strobing will become obsolete with blurfree sample and hold (e.g. 1000fps 1000Hz), but for now we're stuck with strobing as the method of blur reduction, rather than brute framerate. (Double Hz and framerate without DyAc = motion blur is only halved. So you have to keep doubling Hz and framerate, until the blur is gone without needing strobing. 480fps 480Hz will have half the motion blur of 240fps 240Hz without needing DyAc)
@@BlurBusters That's interesting about the mouse polling rate having jitter at even 1khz. It's totally noticable comparing strafing in-game to mouse movement, or even using a gamepad. Just as it is noticeable stepping up from lower polling rates.
Would you say it could somewhat be related to the refresh rate of the screen not being an even factor of the mouse polling rate? Like how capping the frame rate to a factor of the refresh rate is smoother? I have been playing fps games at 200hz because its much clearer than 240. Perhaps 200 being a factor of 1000🤔or just this xl2546 barely has the response time for that refresh
7:05 🤣
Great vid!
One thing worth mentioning is that pixel response times are most commonly measured with GtG (grey to grey) averages, however cranking the overdrive up can show the monitor do fine switching from one colour to another (say GtG), but horribly with a different transition.
HUB has good graphs that show the transitions ranging from 0 to 255.
Glad to see you're still on it! Great content with a lot of useful information. This will be one of the reference videos i'll keep saved for when i need to give buying advice. (Which happens a lot with monitors.)
There are other high-end VA panels that can hold up with IPS in terms of response times. The Asus PG35VQ and Acer Predator X35 also have very fast average response times, albeit while still suffering from slower dark transitions. But these two monitors are the only ones i know of that use that particular 200Hz VA HDR panel. To my eyes it looks as good as the LG 27GN950-B / LG 27GN850-B in terms of motion clarity, which says a lot. And the games that need good response times are typically bright enough to mostly eliminate dark smearing (excluding Tarkov).
Can you make a similar video to Optimum tech and True game data on what the best settings for input lag are? It'd be pretty cool to see what numbers you come up with.
To take it a step further, full details even if it’s an hour long or a series
such a great video man, brilliant , loved it ! thank you SO MUCH.
Me at my job explaining to people that 144hz is a world of difference working with 60hz or 144hz .... but nobody belive me
Time to show them this video ;)
So an 8000hz mouse like my zaunkoenig m2k paired with the upcoming 1080p 480hz - 500hz monitors will be the ultimate combo
But you will not reach even 360 hz unless you play valorant or cs go because no CPU can handle that many frames in more demanding games like Apex or Warzone even in low graphics.
Also, almost no game support 8000hz polling rate and your game will freeze a lot. As far as I know only valorant supports it.
@@clicknchill. I play Overwatch where I tweaked my setup so far that even my 1% lows are 380fps. And that game also has 8khz support. Also the upcoming ryzen 7000 + rtx 4000 series will surely be able to reach 480fps in warzone. Apex fps cap of 300 will also probably get increased then.
@@MorrTex maybe 400 fps in modern warfare but not in warzone, no CPU can handle that even if the gpu have the power
@@MorrTex but good for you, it should be a glorious experience of low input lag
@@clicknchill. a man can hope haha
What do we want in a monitor? Moving image look better
I play fps games on a 60Hz TV do you think i can play better if i get a 240hz Monitor?
Hi Bijan, are you doing a review on the MSI Optix MAG274QRX. Do you think it is better than the MSI MAG274QRF-QD?
Hi will you review the AW2723DF ? Or what are your thoughts about it ?
Glad to see u posting! Nice video! By the way, is still the benq xl2546k your favorite gaming monitor? Thanks a lot
I think VA is a solid buy if you care more about picture quality than motion. While smearing can totally be a thing, it's not that bad and other than the contrast, you also have the lack of IPS glow that can complicate the contrast issue in IPS display even more (although most seem to be decent these days)
Totally agree about the compliance and response time though, which is why LCD still has its place even compared to OLED. I sometime found Tim from HUB's claim that OLED with its 2 ms response time is 'twice as fast' compared to LCD Neo G7 4 ms to be quite ridiculous even though they are technically true. You really don't need a response time faster than 4 ms for 144hz and 6 mis for 240hz to have a clear motion.
It's the sum of all of its advantage that makes OLED great as a gaming monitor but the gap is smaller than most people think (because you also have some trade-off to deal with as well)
Where can I see more of these charts like those at 4:44? I am looking for good Grey to Grey performance times with adaptive sync for a 24-25 inch monitor at 144, 180 and 240 Hz refresh rate. Thank you!
hi, I will be glad if you answer. what is better for me to take for the same price ASUS VG259QM or OMEN x 25F
Any chance you can review the MPG ARTYMIS 273CQRX-QD?
Hey Bijan, just a question.
How do you know how much response time do a monitor really has? Its some kind of test that you have to make once you purchase a unit or...?
You can purchase the OSRTT from TechTeamGB or look at reviews, but monitor companies usually can't be trusted to give you this information.
Do you think AW3423DW is any good for competitive FPS?
Why manufacturers dont make a monitor QHD under 27 inch?
In the same monitor, is the response time affected when downgrading the resolution from 4k to 1440p?
Amazing content please keep it coming!
Hey Bijan, thank you so much for this video, brings me a very good content of i was looking for.
I would like an icc profile for the Acer Nitro kg272s monitor please.
do you have a video on about how to identify if a monitor has dead pixels or stuck pixels and how can someone try to fix stuck pixels?
This is one to save. Lots of great info, and you did a great job tying each topic to the next. Very easy to follow.
My question about QD OLED is brightness. They seem to be much dimmer than most other options. Burn also concerns me, but so far the reviews are solid.
Brightness is so far my only concern. Burn in is possible but I think I won't be too worried about it because of Aleinwares warranty and also it just uses much less power which means less burn in chance.
Really random but that’s such a a sick shirt!
Thank you! :)
Great video Bijan, thank you 🙏🏻
what is the best 1440 240hz monitor to play warzone?
I personally cancelled my preorder of the AW3423DW due to the number of issues that came up since it's release but i still look forward to see your take on it! Let us know what you think about it's debated subpixel layout, fan noise and "off" color accuracity at higher brightness. Keep up the great video quality!
A bit feedback about the video: I'd suggest running your intro after the initial "opening" to instantly catch new viewers. Sound for the intro doesn't hurt either.
Thanks for the intro feedback!
What issues have you seen?
@@BijanJamshidi Mostly the stuff i mentioned above is what put me off. Color fringing (because of the subpixel layout), fan noise that varies a lot across different units, color accuracity falling off significantly at high luminance in HDR, flickering in some games with G-Sync enabled (Only a small problem from what i've seen and in very few games.)
Currently i'm still set with my PG35VQ and i'll wait and see what LG's 42" C2 and Sony's 42" OLED will bring before i'll decide to upgrade to OLED or stay with my LCD for another generation.
Awesome video! Very understandable
could u do an ufo test comparison between the "BenQ ZOWIE XL2746K" vs "ViewSonic ELITE XG270" with all possible tools that they have to offer (PureXP+ & DyAc+) in terms of response time and ghosting. 🙂@Bijan Jamshidi
Great video, very informative :)
I’m primarily a Valorant and CSGO player as a result I’ve been using the BenQ XL2546K for the last year and a bit and was just wondering what your thoughts on the upcoming Asus PG27AQN are? 1440p @360hz sounds like a dream but motion clarity will always be my number one priority. If not the Asus are there any other high refresh rate monitors in the works that could dethrone the Dyac+ motion clarity?
👍🏻
You have come a long way since I last commented on one of your videos, well done. It is a shame to see so few views on such an informative and well produced video but unfortunately the reality is that the same reason that boxes saying "1ms response time and 100000000000000:1 contrast ratio" sell monitors is because people consistently will not commit to learning the details, even when presented like this. And Samsung was able to get away with jumping on the 240hz train using the same VA panel tech they had been using and selling to others for several years prior (and measuring terribly) then exit the LCD industry altogether as they have just announced.
Your visualizations are pleasing to look at and effective, honestly great work. The only thing I can add (which you partially covered) is that every pixel will reach compliance at a different rate depending on what state it was changing from and what state it is changing to, overall you could definitely measure and possibly perceive a difference between a monitor where 85% of the pixels were reaching compliance after 1ms vs a monitor where 85% of the pixels were reaching compliance
bro i had no idea that terrible blue ghosting was caused by an overdrive setting. i immediately found that setting on my monitor and turned it down cus it was on extreme and definitely causing problems. super helpful vid.
Hey Bijan, got any pointers for some monitors with extremely low response times, input lag and motion blur? Been looking at the BenQ Zowie and these new 360hz panels but I’m uncertain.
Also, thank you for staying consistent with great content. Seems like just yesterday when you had below 10K subs. Your channel has come along nicely.
Ayo , welcome back ,
Very very helpful video ❤️👍🏻💯
Can you please review the gigabyte M28u?
Also great video
quality vid. thanks... nice connect between response times and compliance...
This is an incredibly good video. I'm in the market for a good monitor and this helped alot. Thanks!
Happy to follow!
Super clear, I think people should use your tutorial in their articles)
Great content! This channel is my go to place for monitor reviews.
I'm buying MAG251RX because of your videos. But I actually wanted ZOWIE XL2546K, reconsidering that I will not only do games but also watching youtube and other streaming platforms I will be buying MSI. Plus MSI is cheaper T.T Thank you! This video and other vids from you are so helpful! 💯
please update about msi
OMG LOVEEE THIS VIDEOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great video!
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