enjoy your videos and take on surfing (and life). Some background - the 10,000 hour rule was the average to become an expert ie pro level, and the original work showed that the range was from 5,000 - 20,000 hours with different people. Some genetic factors will also come into play. To become (just) good would involve a lot less hours and OK a lot less. As you have noted land practice and visualisation would be part of training hours and further some coaching may help progress. I have found that when going on a 1-2 week surfing holiday with reasonable waves I usually come back a better surfer or even just the opportunity to get 2-3 sessions in a week helps. Unfortunately old age and injuries count against all of this!
@@randomcosmos3600 so cool, great response thank you. Yeah, I am aware of the 10,000 rule by Malcolm Gladwell issues, and that Anders Erickson who did the original research on deliberate practice also touched on a lot of different variables(especially the fact that he actually estimated it closer to 20,000 hours for developing world class skills) and the fact that a lot of “experts” love to debunk the hype, but asides from all that I also see value in giving the average person(myself included) with often completely unrealistic time frames for improvement who often kills their passion with expectation overload a little perspective… I agree with you 100%, all these factors, land practice, visualisation all contribute to the deliberate practice, and that we can all reap improvements from regular practice and that we aren’t all trying to reach expert status… well maybe our egos are a little 😆🙈 Thanks for your response and support and making me think 💭🤙🤙🤙🏆
Scratch Surfer and 18 hcp who has got the golf bug here. The indo board (with the roller perpendicular to your feet instead of parrallel) and skating bowls helped my surfing so so so much out of the water. Also, spending time in the water figuring out which waves to catch and catching them is AS valuable as the standing up time.
@@tubopedia great insights… true, wave reading comes from time spent in the water and therefore is an equally important skill, like putting vs. Driving.. good call. Thanks 🤙🤙
@@noseridesnosedivessurfvlog8634 Overall love the take though, surfing is such a battle to get better, especially when you live in a wave starved area. I think that's what creates its allure and what makes wave pools seem lame.
@ I have never surfed a wave pool. I am sure they are great for practice, but for me for me, I love the beauty of being in nature… but then again, in golf there are indoor simulators, that are great to make a few swings and have a social interaction with other golfers when the weather is bad. But there is very little similarity to playing a real round of golf. 🤙🤙
Good point, if you are dedicated to practice surfing on the land, then you will learn faster than just surfing, similar to golf, you cAn’t just golf and expect to improve… without the practice.
enjoy your videos and take on surfing (and life). Some background - the 10,000 hour rule was the average to become an expert ie pro level, and the original work showed that the range was from 5,000 - 20,000 hours with different people. Some genetic factors will also come into play. To become (just) good would involve a lot less hours and OK a lot less. As you have noted land practice and visualisation would be part of training hours and further some coaching may help progress. I have found that when going on a 1-2 week surfing holiday with reasonable waves I usually come back a better surfer or even just the opportunity to get 2-3 sessions in a week helps. Unfortunately old age and injuries count against all of this!
@@randomcosmos3600 so cool, great response thank you. Yeah, I am aware of the 10,000 rule by Malcolm Gladwell issues, and that Anders Erickson who did the original research on deliberate practice also touched on a lot of different variables(especially the fact that he actually estimated it closer to 20,000 hours for developing world class skills) and the fact that a lot of “experts” love to debunk the hype, but asides from all that I also see value in giving the average person(myself included) with often completely unrealistic time frames for improvement who often kills their passion with expectation overload a little perspective… I agree with you 100%, all these factors, land practice, visualisation all contribute to the deliberate practice, and that we can all reap improvements from regular practice and that we aren’t all trying to reach expert status… well maybe our egos are a little 😆🙈
Thanks for your response and support and making me think 💭🤙🤙🤙🏆
Scratch Surfer and 18 hcp who has got the golf bug here. The indo board (with the roller perpendicular to your feet instead of parrallel) and skating bowls helped my surfing so so so much out of the water. Also, spending time in the water figuring out which waves to catch and catching them is AS valuable as the standing up time.
@@tubopedia great insights… true, wave reading comes from time spent in the water and therefore is an equally important skill, like putting vs. Driving.. good call.
Thanks 🤙🤙
@@noseridesnosedivessurfvlog8634 Overall love the take though, surfing is such a battle to get better, especially when you live in a wave starved area. I think that's what creates its allure and what makes wave pools seem lame.
@ I have never surfed a wave pool. I am sure they are great for practice, but for me for me, I love the beauty of being in nature… but then again, in golf there are indoor simulators, that are great to make a few swings and have a social interaction with other golfers when the weather is bad. But there is very little similarity to playing a real round of golf. 🤙🤙
Learning or doing it well? I'd say they are about equal.
Good point, if you are dedicated to practice surfing on the land, then you will learn faster than just surfing, similar to golf, you cAn’t just golf and expect to improve… without the practice.
The green dont hit back
@@rawbeejay exactly🤣🤣🙌🙌🤙