Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is known as the strongest pure discipline as proven by the Gracie family but here, its parent martial art Judo comes back and destroys it.
You joke, but yes. I think Jeff's Judo was grossly underestimated in that match. Here is the 2nd match where is opponent did a better job of it, but still lost. ruclips.net/video/lAANrbipQSE/видео.html
That is the problem with jiu-jitsu today, a majority of bjj/jj gyms focus less on the throws, takedowns, takedown defense and more on submissions, guards and guard passes. If they started on their asses most likely the bjj guy would win, problem there is how many fights start that way? Also in a real fight if someone came at me on the ground butt scooting towards me I would just walk away. I have a little insight, my gym I've been training at since I started Muay Thai has had UFC champions, adcc competitors, bkfc contenders. I have talked with many pros. This is what they have shared and I have seen personally. I've been training Muay Thai (13 years), BJJ (1.5 years), and Judo (4 years).
@@NelsonJ1first thing that was taught to me in Judo! Big difference in pain if you don’t know how to break the fall! 1:22 is basically how they taught me in Judo😅
😅😅😅😅 did you say "half"?! I'm a bjj black belt myself and almost ALL of the original game was stolen and repackaged. Why do you think Danaher even went back to using Judo terms for holds etc.
What many of them don’t know is many Bjj schools have Judo throws & Wrestling implemented in its curriculum…….( Marcio Andre is my instructor). His school covers all this n his grapplers ( including him ) are very well versed.
I'm not trying to be a jackass but just FYI out of courtesy, it's spelled "ippon". Judoka are immense at this level. That guy was fun to watch. I'd prefer not to be on the receiving end of it though... 😆
The thing is, it's really easy for a proficient Judoka to add BJJ to his arsenal. The reverse is not true. There is no substitute for 5-10 year of Judo competition.
I would argue rhe exacpt opposite. There's not nearly as much technique to learn in judo as there is in bjj. It takes much longer to get a black belt in bjj compared to judo.
It depends what you mean by add BJJ to his arsenal? Able to effectively use it against a high belt BJJ player? Able to defend larger number of possible attacks?
@@zafarhashmi2170 It's easier for a Judoka to become proficient at BJJ than vice versa. And it's easier for a Judoka to incorporate BJJ into his fighting skill set than it is for a Jiujitsuka to do the same with Judo. This is because Judoka already have more than a basic grasp of everything BJJ has to offer, whereas the reverse is not true for BJJ fighters.
@@AllAhabNoMoby but again how are you defining proficient in jiu jitsu? It is a bit vague. It is like me saying I have good judo (I don't) that is not going to mean much to you.
Goes to show that the feasibility of some modern combat sports are highly dependent on what gear and facilities are available. e.g. you can be a highly agile boxer in the ring, but if you're fighting someone on a rough hill slope, all that agility goes out the window because one wrong step and you tumble down.
@@zzzzzz69 By complete: it has tradition, its an olympic sport, it is widely practiced, it embodies the true concepts of martial arts through it's principles that encompass things like mutual respect and mutual benefit, it is effective in MMA and street, it can be used to control or damage. There is kata, live sparring (randoori) and competitions at all levels, from local friendly competition to world championship to Olympics. There's much more. Can't think of other martial arts that tick so many boxes. The problem is, because of al that, it is NOT easy. So, few people practice it and understand it.
BJJ is just culturally appropriated Judo. That's why all the basic moves have Japanese names and origins. The reason why Judo faded out is because of their own initiative of toning it down for Olympics. And it still continues because just 2 decades ago Judo still had leg attacks like FS wrestling but they stupidly removed that too. That's like half of the Judo stand up game removed for a silly sporting event that's becoming obsolete anyways.
I'm 53 and my training days are behind me. But back in the mid-90s I trained for roughly 4 years at Gracie Jiujitsu in Torrance. These were my prime years for training being in my 20s and still having my youth. In hindsight, I wish I had trained in Judo instead. There's something about Judo that really catches my attention instead of when I watch a Jiujitsu competition. I feel Judo would have been more tailor made for what I was looking for instead of Jiujitsu. Anyway, that was the past. I still enjoy watching Judo competitions. Looks like fun, and dare I say it, more practical.
ppl forget that judo does have ground game. it may not be emphasized at every dojo but it exists. and lets not for get that mitsuyo maeda got his black belt from kano jigoro
Depending on the Judo school, newaza is a bigger or smaller part of the training. When I took Judo it was under an older Japanese Kodokan guy. The first 6 months of training were nothing but breakfalls and groundfighting and his top students used to excel at beating their oponents on the ground. Of course, they were pretty good at stand up too.
Jiu Jitsu loss a lot when it became more competitive based over defense based. I remember going to class and being told "no throws to get take downs" and it felt like an entire part of practice was missing.
@@alex-dc2zx in a real fight you don't know it's going to stay 1v1 and you don't know if the person has any weapon on him. The best option is always to GTFU as fast as possible
in this fight, Judo and jiu jitsu are quite similar, it is clear that it is the athlete who is more important rather than the martial art in which one is an expert
I used judo in many street fights but they were mostly sweeps. Every real-life fight starts with standing position. You have to know how to finish it fast - no need to lie down and fight on the ground...
Thank you I tell guys all the time Judo is much better for street fights then Jui jit us where guys need to be on the ground. Sweeps and throws you can fight multiple people while Jui jit sucks only one person and pray there aren’t more or you get stomped out.
I was the victim of a sweep in a street fight, and it was highly effective, because I landed on my head. I've also been swept in Grappling competition. It works well across the board.
I'm a Shuai jiao guy. Sparred with many judokas back in the day. It's kinda sad that folks think BJJ is real combat. However that means the majority of them wouldn't ever be in a real fight. Because they'd already know that BJJ was useless in a real street fight. Even junkies know rolling around on the ground is where you get stabbed.
In real old judo they have strikes to empi ! We would(when young 50now but stil teaching and rolling) learn in the old days block a hook make a hipthrow /legthrow and throw a strike when he is on the ground! By my sensei Willem ruska real good Dutch judoka! I just got to brown belt in my youth and did some tournaments in the summer together whit kuyokushin but my main sport was ice hockey@@bolenarrow9286
I did Judo for years, Brazillian Jiu Jitsu is just the groundwork part of Judo. The emphasis on throws in Judo happened when it became an Olympic sport I believe in the early sixties.
Study both. Standing and ground. Be so strong standing that the opponent is forced to butt scoot Be so strong on the ground that the opponent questions his own reality 😂 Wrestle, Judo, Jiu Jitsu study it all. At the end of the day, it’s grappling. Being versed in all forms makes grappling so much fun.
My advice. Train in both styles (or some more if you’re up for it). The basics are the same. The bloke training my kids has a black belt in 3 sports (with cherries on top), he’s struggling to walk around with a busted back, knees and shoulders but he still manages to throw his opponents with little effort. He just switches from judo techniques to ju-jitsu or something else without even thinking about it. But what I consider the most impressive is that he can switch off the “illegal” techniques depending on the discipline he’s teaching.
Thank GOD a video worth watching, something of a return to the original format and presentation. This is almost like the A+ content that made this channel amazing
The extra inches of standing on the toes during the throw are important. The whip slap slam was not expectant and it probably took the wind out of their sails.
@@afroahmed3989 You don't know what you are talking about. Judo and jiu jitsu were at one point the same art it split up and became more advanced but judo still has ground jiu jitsu moves.
Yeah, everything in Jiu-jitsu is contained in Judo. Sport Judo is why people think it's only about throwing your opponent to the ground. The elder Gracies that founded BJJ were taught by a Japanese Judoka.
His transition after that throw was amazing. To see this sequence in real time is almost blinding he moves so quick. Growing up I always thought Judo and Jujitsu weren’t that strong of a martial art, but my mind was truly changed when I actually saw both arts in person.
Excellent video. The slow motion, the step by step explanations, then the full video at the end. And the narration plus the quote at the end. All excellent. And it's quick. Videos like this is why I RUclips.
This video aligns with my experience in Judo and BJJ. I'm 99% Judo in this equation. When I tried BJJ last year for a few months (i.e., not all that much!), I found that none of them were ready for anything that required standing up, regardless of their belt. On the ground, they were phenomenal. But standing, even as a not-great Judo practitioner, it was pretty easy to throw them and get them in a position advantageous for me. Which I found absolutely shocking. As long as I didn't go to the ground, I could take on anyone in the dojo. Of course, there are a lot of strategies to bring someone to the ground, but if I managed to avoid them (spoiler: I couldn't always avoid it) I could control the standing fight pretty easily as a BJJ white belt. One guy in the BJJ dojo was a high-level Judo guy (I don't know where he was, he was a jerk and I never talked to him) and a blue belt in BJJ. He absolutely crushed everyone. It always started from standing. He would throw everyone quite easily (and I would say, abusively, again, he seemed like a jerk) and then pin the BJJ person quickly. Every practice has its Royce Gracies and I'm not saying every judoka will take out every Jiu-jitsu guy, but it seems, on paper, the Judo practitioner has some pretty significant real world advantages over Jiu-Jitsu.
That depends on the BJJ practitioner and his training. Marcelo Garcia, Gordon Ryan, Nick Rodriguez, Andre Galvao, Ricardo Arona will never lose to a guy who's main art is Judo.
Ju Jitsu came from Judo... Judo is essentially the father of ju jitsu... of course a complete Judo practitioner would woop a BJJ practioner (who is essentially the grand child) ❤
I presume that you mean the competitional ju-jitsu. The "real" ju-jitsu precedes judo, or differently said, judo is a part of ju-jitsu (together with the punching part) - although if I remember the "stories", judo was invented as a separate type of fighting based on throws (and not strikes) and incorporated in the existing ju-jitsu arsenal of the time. But we're getting pedantic :) Simply said: ju-jitsu is (was?) a lot more complex/complete; judo as a separate "non-strike only" martial art appeared later. (And Aikido a lot later.) And all of them evolved (were simplified?) to today's competitional sports. Even today there are some parts in ju-jitsu that are not in judo, I don't mean striking but different arm or leg torsions (some of which may be found in aikido).
Not at all. Useless without GI and hard to do damage to people who aren’t playing your judo game. Boxing is the best for doing damage quickly and explosively.
There are simply levels to this. It wasn't any surprise that a Judo Black Belt could easily do a throw on a BJJ Black Belt. While take downs and throws are certainly a part of BJJ my experiencing in observing training in BJJ schools is that 90+ % of training is inground fighting, What was really impressive is that the Judo Black belt was so fast in passing the black belts guard and submitting him. If the match had started with both fighters seated it would probably ended the same way. BJJ is nothing more than Ne-Waza... The ground grappling side of Judo. The Judo Player was very adept at it.
problem is that many BJJ schools focus on Sport Jiu Jitsu so they've kinda ignored Takedowns. Judo practices the takedowns AND jiu jitsu. So they're all around
This is why I have been watching you for years- teaching, passion, observation, entertainment. The first 1:28 is as good as anything you have ever done - keep right here - it’s brilliant my brother!
Karate is real life self defense for warriors and is deadly. Head blows, throat punches and bone breaks are simply not appropriate for a sport and thats why Jiu Jitsu fighters have an advantage. All the Karate weapons are essentially taken out of their hands. Judo on the other hand is well defined to compete with Jiu Jitsu as a sport.
The guy in the blue Gi looks like a Hobbyist Black Belt & the guy in the white Gi looked like a Competition Black Belt. Idk the Judo guys full background but it's not uncommon for high level Judokas to add BJJ as a supplement to their takedown game. It makes sense, the attire and grips are similar. Just like Wrestlers preferring NoGi as it feels more natural to them.
I would note that at the highest level both arts have very explosive black belts, but because of the time limitations that competition judo puts on newaza, even mid-level and hobbiest black belts tend to bring very explosive techniques. They also hone particular combinations off their favorite throws as seen here. If they don't just yeet that arm the ref will stand them back up. This leads to there being an intensity difference at the hobbiest and mid level of black belts that favors judo, particularly if the bjj player can not establish grips or guard.
What is a hobbiest black belt? I’ve never heard of it, actually. Someone who doesn’t compete or is a pussy? Or just an overall lack of dedication to the sport?
The key difference is speed and temperment. BJJ guys almost always the more relaxed, slower grapplers. Judo competition is faster and you can't stall. This is the same pinciple that saw Ronda Rousey finishing (less) expereinced grapplers in seconds in MMA. Their mindset is to fight there way into a fight or graplle for position. Hers was to burst into the dominant position/finish as soon as possible. Each discipline has it's strengths and weaknesses.
Beautiful technique! You rarely get to see technique this clean and crisp in judo competition because the opponent knows whats coming and trys to counter, but this looked like he was doing kata with someone who slept with his girlfriend! Simply Beautiful!
I've been telling people that judo is a better basis for MMA. Judo masters are just about the most dangerous guys on the planet. They'll hurt you bad faster than anyone else. Just run from them.
People say BJJ is the best style, yet go silent when other street elements are mentioned like more then one opponent, weapons like knife, gun or pepper spray.
I wrestled in college went to my local bjj gym and no one could hang with me standing or take me down at all. I couldn’t hang with them on the ground but if I stayed on top and heavy I made brown and black belts look silly. Bjj needs to focus on takedowns and standing throws way way more.
I remember hearing during the Rondo Rousey era that Judo has submissions as well, and the arm bar specifically, is one of the more prevalent ones. The speed of a Judo match is generally faster than a BJJ match so the emphasis more often gets placed on throws and not submissions. But don't take my word for it; I'm a single-stripe BJJ white belt, lol.
Bjj is just a crippled version of judo, the gracies took many of its techniques from judo and labelled it as bjj, forming an incomplete martial art. How can you fight someone on the ground if you don't know how to take them to the ground?
I know very little about this but that BB in blue seemed kinda weak...that initial attempt at a takedown for instance......COuld be because BB in white is just so damn good.....Cool post
There's something so satisfying when watching a beautiful judo throw.
Amen. You and I practice the same religion. An absolutely gorgeous throw and finish. 🥋🤌
Artistry
Yup. A well executed technique is a beautiful sight indeed.
Agreed
I don't even practice Judo...that's beautiful technique 🙏🏼
The problem here was that the BJJ practitioner didn't start with the butt scoot
😂
You joke, but yes. I think Jeff's Judo was grossly underestimated in that match.
Here is the 2nd match where is opponent did a better job of it, but still lost.
ruclips.net/video/lAANrbipQSE/видео.html
Lol🤣
😂😂😂😂
That is the problem with jiu-jitsu today, a majority of bjj/jj gyms focus less on the throws, takedowns, takedown defense and more on submissions, guards and guard passes. If they started on their asses most likely the bjj guy would win, problem there is how many fights start that way? Also in a real fight if someone came at me on the ground butt scooting towards me I would just walk away. I have a little insight, my gym I've been training at since I started Muay Thai has had UFC champions, adcc competitors, bkfc contenders. I have talked with many pros. This is what they have shared and I have seen personally. I've been training Muay Thai (13 years), BJJ (1.5 years), and Judo (4 years).
"Judo is a fine art of hitting opponent with planet Earth"
Look into shuai chiao ;)
🤣 Well put
😂😂😂😂
His *Ippon Seoi nage* is so smooth 👍
Judo is scary as hell. Imagine being thrown on cement like that.. yikes.
It's like a quote I read on the internet; _"In Judo, we hit you with the earth itself."_
Exactly what I thought. In the street, that guy is out.....
A streetfighter won't be wearing a ghee so, you know, no handles.
@@sferrin2Most people don't walk around nude, you can grab their clothes
@@dturituri8562 Your average T-shirt will rip off before tossing someone like that.
wtf the speed of transition was insane, the blue guy couldn't even react it was so quick
Being hit by the ground will do that to you.
The jaring impact does do a temp stun if you're not prepared. Plus being flipped is a bit disorienting
He was stunned by the throw. That tatami seems awfully hard and the other guy landed on top of him.
BJJ don't know how to break a fall.
@@NelsonJ1first thing that was taught to me in Judo! Big difference in pain if you don’t know how to break the fall! 1:22 is basically how they taught me in Judo😅
Judo training 70% standing 30% ground work, BJJ training 95% groundwork 5% standing and it showed
some clubs its 60 - 40 or even 50 - 50 - I train both BJJers underestimate Judo groundwork
What people forget is bjj is just half of judo. (Yes, this is coming from a Gracie bjj guy).
Japanese Jujutsu is the precursor to both and has strikes
😅😅😅😅 did you say "half"?! I'm a bjj black belt myself and almost ALL of the original game was stolen and repackaged. Why do you think Danaher even went back to using Judo terms for holds etc.
What many of them don’t know is many Bjj schools have Judo throws & Wrestling implemented in its curriculum…….( Marcio Andre is my instructor). His school covers all this n his grapplers ( including him ) are very well versed.
...by that logic, judo is just a small part of daito ryo aki jui jitsu...
the truth is - bjj was derived from judo.
@@StruggleEndure Judo was created because Japanese Jujustsu was and continues to be lacking.
He actually beat him twice once with the ipon and twice with the arm bar.
I'm not trying to be a jackass but just FYI out of courtesy, it's spelled "ippon". Judoka are immense at this level. That guy was fun to watch. I'd prefer not to be on the receiving end of it though... 😆
The thing is, it's really easy for a proficient Judoka to add BJJ to his arsenal. The reverse is not true. There is no substitute for 5-10 year of Judo competition.
I would argue rhe exacpt opposite. There's not nearly as much technique to learn in judo as there is in bjj. It takes much longer to get a black belt in bjj compared to judo.
@@mattwood1977 Hey bro, I've got a feeling that you haven't done much judo
It depends what you mean by add BJJ to his arsenal? Able to effectively use it against a high belt BJJ player? Able to defend larger number of possible attacks?
@@zafarhashmi2170 It's easier for a Judoka to become proficient at BJJ than vice versa. And it's easier for a Judoka to incorporate BJJ into his fighting skill set than it is for a Jiujitsuka to do the same with Judo. This is because Judoka already have more than a basic grasp of everything BJJ has to offer, whereas the reverse is not true for BJJ fighters.
@@AllAhabNoMoby but again how are you defining proficient in jiu jitsu? It is a bit vague. It is like me saying I have good judo (I don't) that is not going to mean much to you.
If that was on concrete, the bjj would be going to hospital.
The judo guy also drove his shoulder into the bjj guy at the end of the throw… ouch!
Goes to show that the feasibility of some modern combat sports
are highly dependent on what gear and facilities are available.
e.g. you can be a highly agile boxer in the ring, but if you're fighting someone on a rough hill slope,
all that agility goes out the window because one wrong step and you tumble down.
@@tranquil_dude Or fighting more than one guy.
Goddam I miss Karo Parisyan fights
@@tbs1533 Agreed! His judo throws were a sight to see!
Watching someone skilled in Judo in a street fight on concrete must be both beautiful and horrifying.
Judo has to be the most complete martial art.
It could potentially paralyze the guy
@@Matto_Harvomaybe the art that gave origin to judo. Sambo and kudo are probably the most complete, has throws+submission+strikes. Whole package
@@Matto_Harvo it's potent, but why is it the most complete
@@zzzzzz69 By complete: it has tradition, its an olympic sport, it is widely practiced, it embodies the true concepts of martial arts through it's principles that encompass things like mutual respect and mutual benefit, it is effective in MMA and street, it can be used to control or damage. There is kata, live sparring (randoori) and competitions at all levels, from local friendly competition to world championship to Olympics. There's much more. Can't think of other martial arts that tick so many boxes. The problem is, because of al that, it is NOT easy. So, few people practice it and understand it.
that judoka has a BJJ black belt too
Which style did he use to take down it's techniques that we are hear to see not brand everything so it is sellable
You mean awarded later?!
The BJJ guy has a Judo belt too. I think it's brown, I could be wrong about the color though.
Cope.
@@Zetunezthey always do lol
BJJ is just culturally appropriated Judo. That's why all the basic moves have Japanese names and origins. The reason why Judo faded out is because of their own initiative of toning it down for Olympics. And it still continues because just 2 decades ago Judo still had leg attacks like FS wrestling but they stupidly removed that too. That's like half of the Judo stand up game removed for a silly sporting event that's becoming obsolete anyways.
High confidence low accuracy dope build bro
The only reason The BJJ guy didn't win is because he wasn't allowed to Butt Scoot lol
I'm 53 and my training days are behind me. But back in the mid-90s I trained for roughly 4 years at Gracie Jiujitsu in Torrance. These were my prime years for training being in my 20s and still having my youth. In hindsight, I wish I had trained in Judo instead. There's something about Judo that really catches my attention instead of when I watch a Jiujitsu competition. I feel Judo would have been more tailor made for what I was looking for instead of Jiujitsu. Anyway, that was the past. I still enjoy watching Judo competitions. Looks like fun, and dare I say it, more practical.
You can still go back to judo. If bjj was combined with judo it would be a formidable grappling style.
@@Art-is-craft Or just Judo and pick up the bit of BJJ after.
ppl forget that judo does have ground game. it may not be emphasized at every dojo but it exists. and lets not for get that mitsuyo maeda got his black belt from kano jigoro
Depending on the Judo school, newaza is a bigger or smaller part of the training. When I took Judo it was under an older Japanese Kodokan guy. The first 6 months of training were nothing but breakfalls and groundfighting and his top students used to excel at beating their oponents on the ground. Of course, they were pretty good at stand up too.
Jeff Lawson he is a black belt bjj and judo black belt and he was in tuf ( ufc) .
Jiu Jitsu loss a lot when it became more competitive based over defense based. I remember going to class and being told "no throws to get take downs" and it felt like an entire part of practice was missing.
That removing a core part of the art
Do Japanese Ji Jutsu then > JJJ - They have judo, wrestling, ground and standing fighting, kicking, punching, choking, joint breaking, elbowing.....
@@geoffreytasker2097 Even wrestling has throws!
BJJ is not a good base for a real fight. The ground is the last place you want to be in a street fight. Judo > BJJ
Parkour is the best base for a real fight
depends, if its a 1 vs. 1 bjj is after mma probably one of the best martial arts you can do
@@alex-dc2zx in a real fight you don't know it's going to stay 1v1 and you don't know if the person has any weapon on him. The best option is always to GTFU as fast as possible
@@SoloPerICommenti yes sure, but bjj is still very legit. And against weapons and multiple people other martial arts are also not going to help you
@@alex-dc2zx that's my point, no false sense of security. in an actual fight the risk always too high
Magic turned against the magician
in this fight, Judo and jiu jitsu are quite similar, it is clear that it is the athlete who is more important rather than the martial art in which one is an expert
Exactly.
The actual participants is always important but the styles they train in is not going to equally prepare them.
I used judo in many street fights but they were mostly sweeps.
Every real-life fight starts with standing position.
You have to know how to finish it fast - no need to lie down and fight on the ground...
Thank you I tell guys all the time Judo is much better for street fights then Jui jit us where guys need to be on the ground. Sweeps and throws you can fight multiple people while Jui jit sucks only one person and pray there aren’t more or you get stomped out.
I was the victim of a sweep in a street fight, and it was highly effective, because I landed on my head.
I've also been swept in Grappling competition.
It works well across the board.
I'm a Shuai jiao guy. Sparred with many judokas back in the day.
It's kinda sad that folks think BJJ is real combat.
However that means the majority of them wouldn't ever be in a real fight.
Because they'd already know that BJJ was useless in a real street fight.
Even junkies know rolling around on the ground is where you get stabbed.
Almost every real life fight. There are always those really odd exceptions.
Why no thumbs-up from the Gracies yet?
Judo is for putting opponents on the ground from a standpoint. Jujitsu is what you do once you’re on the ground.
It’s completely idiotic that they’re taught separately in the west
Judo did everything back in the day, but judo has chokes and arm bars. I am a national judo champ (6x) and most my matches were won with chokes
The Jujitsu guy got tapped out on the ground lol
@@bolenarrow9286where did you train? I’m stationed in Okinawa but wanting to get into Judo asap
In real old judo they have strikes to empi ! We would(when young 50now but stil teaching and rolling) learn in the old days block a hook make a hipthrow /legthrow and throw a strike when he is on the ground! By my sensei Willem ruska real good Dutch judoka! I just got to brown belt in my youth and did some tournaments in the summer together whit kuyokushin but my main sport was ice hockey@@bolenarrow9286
I did Judo for years, Brazillian Jiu Jitsu is just the groundwork part of Judo. The emphasis on throws in Judo happened when it became an Olympic sport I believe in the early sixties.
Seoi-nagi for Ippon. It is one of the 8 fundamental Tachi-waza (standing techniques) which a beginner must learn.
Study both. Standing and ground.
Be so strong standing that the opponent is forced to butt scoot
Be so strong on the ground that the opponent questions his own reality 😂
Wrestle, Judo, Jiu Jitsu study it all. At the end of the day, it’s grappling. Being versed in all forms makes grappling so much fun.
Dont forget sambo. Sanda and muay thai for striking clich techs is good too
Love these kind of films.
Sakuraba is another good example of how to defeat someone trained in jujitsu.
My favorite PRIDE fighter. Before this ufc bs…
My advice. Train in both styles (or some more if you’re up for it). The basics are the same. The bloke training my kids has a black belt in 3 sports (with cherries on top), he’s struggling to walk around with a busted back, knees and shoulders but he still manages to throw his opponents with little effort. He just switches from judo techniques to ju-jitsu or something else without even thinking about it. But what I consider the most impressive is that he can switch off the “illegal” techniques depending on the discipline he’s teaching.
Thank GOD a video worth watching, something of a return to the original format and presentation. This is almost like the A+ content that made this channel amazing
The extra inches of standing on the toes during the throw are important. The whip slap slam was not expectant and it probably took the wind out of their sails.
Jujitsu is the art of taking the fight to ground, judo is the art of throwing your opponent into the ground
What are you talking about
@@brandonchong4025 Exactly what you saw
@@afroahmed3989 You don't know what you are talking about. Judo and jiu jitsu were at one point the same art it split up and became more advanced but judo still has ground jiu jitsu moves.
@@bobbydigital5236 Thanks for the history lesson
Yeah, everything in Jiu-jitsu is contained in Judo. Sport Judo is why people think it's only about throwing your opponent to the ground. The elder Gracies that founded BJJ were taught by a Japanese Judoka.
He made it look like another day in the gym 😮
Judo is the art I most recommend to youngsters looking to have the skill to defeat schoolyard bullies.
I recommend snooker/ pool balls or batteries in a sock. 😂
A judo throw on concrete is another animal
Guy with takedowns vs guy without takedowns
The power of drilling the same moves
His transition after that throw was amazing. To see this sequence in real time is almost blinding he moves so quick. Growing up I always thought Judo and Jujitsu weren’t that strong of a martial art, but my mind was truly changed when I actually saw both arts in person.
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In a regular Judo match, that would probably have been Ipon.
Excellent video. The slow motion, the step by step explanations, then the full video at the end. And the narration plus the quote at the end. All excellent. And it's quick. Videos like this is why I RUclips.
Judo & Jiu Jitsu go hand in hand.
Perfect Brings back good memories from when i was younger Great video MindSmash Thank You
This video aligns with my experience in Judo and BJJ. I'm 99% Judo in this equation. When I tried BJJ last year for a few months (i.e., not all that much!), I found that none of them were ready for anything that required standing up, regardless of their belt.
On the ground, they were phenomenal. But standing, even as a not-great Judo practitioner, it was pretty easy to throw them and get them in a position advantageous for me.
Which I found absolutely shocking. As long as I didn't go to the ground, I could take on anyone in the dojo. Of course, there are a lot of strategies to bring someone to the ground, but if I managed to avoid them (spoiler: I couldn't always avoid it) I could control the standing fight pretty easily as a BJJ white belt.
One guy in the BJJ dojo was a high-level Judo guy (I don't know where he was, he was a jerk and I never talked to him) and a blue belt in BJJ. He absolutely crushed everyone.
It always started from standing. He would throw everyone quite easily (and I would say, abusively, again, he seemed like a jerk) and then pin the BJJ person quickly.
Every practice has its Royce Gracies and I'm not saying every judoka will take out every Jiu-jitsu guy, but it seems, on paper, the Judo practitioner has some pretty significant real world advantages over Jiu-Jitsu.
Japanenese JJ (JJJ) has it all.
That depends on the BJJ practitioner and his training. Marcelo Garcia, Gordon Ryan, Nick Rodriguez, Andre Galvao, Ricardo Arona will never lose to a guy who's main art is Judo.
I remember taking Judo at Holloman AFB in the mid 80s, when i was like 7 or 8. If only i had stuck with it.
There's a reason the Japanese are taught Judo before any other of their martial arts such as Ju Jitsu... ❤
It is good to hear from you!
That little shoulder drive at the end of the throw must have felt wonderful too.
Wow that Judoka was legit!
Best vid in some time! Great job!
Ju Jitsu came from Judo... Judo is essentially the father of ju jitsu... of course a complete Judo practitioner would woop a BJJ practioner (who is essentially the grand child) ❤
I presume that you mean the competitional ju-jitsu. The "real" ju-jitsu precedes judo, or differently said, judo is a part of ju-jitsu (together with the punching part) - although if I remember the "stories", judo was invented as a separate type of fighting based on throws (and not strikes) and incorporated in the existing ju-jitsu arsenal of the time. But we're getting pedantic :) Simply said: ju-jitsu is (was?) a lot more complex/complete; judo as a separate "non-strike only" martial art appeared later. (And Aikido a lot later.) And all of them evolved (were simplified?) to today's competitional sports. Even today there are some parts in ju-jitsu that are not in judo, I don't mean striking but different arm or leg torsions (some of which may be found in aikido).
Absolutely beautiful technique.
Best form of defence is judo..speed.strength.balance..gymnastics...it as the lot....
Not at all. Useless without GI and hard to do damage to people who aren’t playing your judo game.
Boxing is the best for doing damage quickly and explosively.
Style dont forget style. It looks ugly someone laying on ground in guard. Not good, a warrior must be able to stand in the battlefield
@@flowrepins6663 not to mention that in a fight without rules you don't want your head to be like a perfectly lined up football
There are simply levels to this. It wasn't any surprise that a Judo Black Belt could easily do a throw on a BJJ Black Belt. While take downs and throws are certainly a part of BJJ my experiencing in observing training in BJJ schools is that 90+ % of training is inground fighting, What was really impressive is that the Judo Black belt was so fast in passing the black belts guard and submitting him.
If the match had started with both fighters seated it would probably ended the same way. BJJ is nothing more than Ne-Waza... The ground grappling side of Judo. The Judo Player was very adept at it.
Superbly won! 👏
problem is that many BJJ schools focus on Sport Jiu Jitsu so they've kinda ignored Takedowns.
Judo practices the takedowns AND jiu jitsu. So they're all around
without break falling that Ju Jitsu guy must have had the wind knocked out of him. Perfect left handed seionage
Epic ippon Seo nagi. First throw I learned in 1970 and used it for 46 years LOL! one of my favorites LOL!
Flawless Victor!
The UFC was designed to see which martial art is the best. Style vs style, judo guy made his case.
No it was not, it was designed to promote BJJ, Royce gracie got owned by the Judo guy in Pride and wrestler Sakuraba beat all the gracies
The Brazilian master forgot to throw the HAWK TUAH 💦
Nothing like a good throw to humble a person.
With that amplitude at 0:36 had that been on street, the downed guy would probably be out cold
Judoka's weapon is the mother earth. 😮
Seionage into jujigatame is a very basic combination we learn in judo - and here it worked a treat.
This is no BJJ Master! He didn't butt scoot
That throw was so fast, the BJJ guy could t even butt scoot fast enough
This reminds me of Sakuraba destroying the Gracies.
Oh my god.. thats was savage
This is why I have been watching you for years- teaching, passion, observation, entertainment. The first 1:28 is as good as anything you have ever done - keep right here - it’s brilliant my brother!
Karate is real life self defense for warriors and is deadly. Head blows, throat punches and bone breaks are simply not appropriate for a sport and thats why Jiu Jitsu fighters have an advantage. All the Karate weapons are essentially taken out of their hands. Judo on the other hand is well defined to compete with Jiu Jitsu as a sport.
The guy in the blue Gi looks like a Hobbyist Black Belt & the guy in the white Gi looked like a Competition Black Belt. Idk the Judo guys full background but it's not uncommon for high level Judokas to add BJJ as a supplement to their takedown game. It makes sense, the attire and grips are similar. Just like Wrestlers preferring NoGi as it feels more natural to them.
I would note that at the highest level both arts have very explosive black belts, but because of the time limitations that competition judo puts on newaza, even mid-level and hobbiest black belts tend to bring very explosive techniques. They also hone particular combinations off their favorite throws as seen here.
If they don't just yeet that arm the ref will stand them back up.
This leads to there being an intensity difference at the hobbiest and mid level of black belts that favors judo, particularly if the bjj player can not establish grips or guard.
COPE!!HEAVY COPE!!
Big time coping.
What is a hobbiest black belt? I’ve never heard of it, actually. Someone who doesn’t compete or is a pussy? Or just an overall lack of dedication to the sport?
The key difference is speed and temperment. BJJ guys almost always the more relaxed, slower grapplers. Judo competition is faster and you can't stall. This is the same pinciple that saw Ronda Rousey finishing (less) expereinced grapplers in seconds in MMA. Their mindset is to fight there way into a fight or graplle for position. Hers was to burst into the dominant position/finish as soon as possible. Each discipline has it's strengths and weaknesses.
My humble opinion... I feel like judo is going to be the new meta in jujutsu gi competitions.
All fights start standing up.... All fights end with someone left on the ground.
If we're talking street fights boxing is always the top thing to train
Beautiful technique! You rarely get to see technique this clean and crisp in judo competition because the opponent knows whats coming and trys to counter, but this looked like he was doing kata with someone who slept with his girlfriend! Simply Beautiful!
Its not the arts. Its the practitioner.
Brazilian 'Jiu-Jitsu' is just Ne-Waza to us.
This video is a bit misleading. The "judoka" Jeff Lawson is a BJJ black belt who competes and teaches BJJ for a living...
Kayla Harrison a judo practitioner just defeated Holly Homes with the help of a judo throw
Hey bjj guy quick pull guard
JJ comes from judo..both are MA/martial arts..
B-jj is sport...
Judo is the older sister to BBJ. Remember Jigoro Kano took all the soft parts of Jujitsu and Created Judo in the 1800s.
so jodo guy uses jiu jitsu move to finish jiu jitsu guy ? very interesting ?!
Fucking hell… that transition is sick
Judo introduces others to the Earth.
Never underestimate a Judoka.
I love judo , it has served me very well
That just proves judo is the best all time
I've been telling people that judo is a better basis for MMA. Judo masters are just about the most dangerous guys on the planet. They'll hurt you bad faster than anyone else. Just run from them.
People say BJJ is the best style, yet go silent when other street elements are mentioned like more then one opponent, weapons like knife, gun or pepper spray.
Judo guy knew both disciplines. He was expecting Jujitsu guy's attacks, and finished himself with an arm bar. Not the best comparison.
I wrestled in college went to my local bjj gym and no one could hang with me standing or take me down at all. I couldn’t hang with them on the ground but if I stayed on top and heavy I made brown and black belts look silly. Bjj needs to focus on takedowns and standing throws way way more.
Left side ippon seionagi. Was an ippon too.
I remember hearing during the Rondo Rousey era that Judo has submissions as well, and the arm bar specifically, is one of the more prevalent ones. The speed of a Judo match is generally faster than a BJJ match so the emphasis more often gets placed on throws and not submissions. But don't take my word for it; I'm a single-stripe BJJ white belt, lol.
Bjj is just a crippled version of judo, the gracies took many of its techniques from judo and labelled it as bjj, forming an incomplete martial art.
How can you fight someone on the ground if you don't know how to take them to the ground?
Judo is full of submissions, chokes and joint locks. A clean throw scores ippon and ends the match.
@@timothym2241 thanks for adding that clarity. So in a Judo match a submission earns points but does NOT end the match?
@@wstan1410 submissions do end the match but you won't even get to that if they score a clean throw on you.
@@catocall7323 Ahhhh, that makes more sense to me now. Thanks!
The arm spin/shoulder throw get used in wrestling, too. Main thing is the bjj player doesn’t have a standing game.
I know very little about this but that BB in blue seemed kinda weak...that initial attempt at a takedown for instance......COuld be because BB in white is just so damn good.....Cool post