Judo vs Greco Roman Wrestling | No Gi Submission Grappling | Super Close Grappling Match!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Eric in the camo shorts is a JKD fighter who did Greco Roman Wrestling amongst some other grappling arts. He describes his style as "submission grappling and freestyle." I am in the black pants, and I am a Sanda fighter who does Judo out of Protege Performance under coach Matt. I also did folkstyle and catch wrestling as well as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for about a year to two years each. I have a blue belt in BJJ, but I don't like to associate with guard pulling, which was not allowed in this round as said in the beginning. This was an amazing close round, let me know who you thought won in the comments below!
Camo shorts is definitely someone that would hurt the trial class guys 😂
@@douglasduggerton hes a good guy but sometimes hes a little overzealous. still great dude
Nice if u not to shit on him. And good on u on calling out the fishhook in the vid to him. But his response of "am grappling bro" should have been enough for u to never sparr him again
Yeah exactly.. saying its part of the sports is just stupid. Also you can see he is relying so much on pure strength not much technique @@paparadeliko
A trial class should consist of practicing technique not sparring.
dang bro that guy was clearly trying to hurt you, train safe man
@@user-zi7kp8un3s all good hes my friend
Lol, comments do not pass the vibe check. Imo, you did great, I mean, you won, and submitted him even after that eye gouge. Any who has ever actually fought/sparred/rolled knows its not easy to keep you composure after getting hit with something like that even when its unintentional, its even harder when it is intentional and being filmed... Good job man,
Bonus points for winning without using the closed guard
@@fnfn9229 fuck the guard i hate pulling guard lol
@@SS.LiuRyan Me too. Only good thing about pulling guard is that it lowers chance of injury and its good to be effective and dangerous in the second worst position.
@@SS.LiuRyan this is so based
You did pretty good, considering he seemed to be 20-30 pounds heavier. It also takes time to adapt Judo to no gi and use it against wrestlers. I usually force an over under clinch than push them slightly with a bend posture, they usually push back thats when you do your thing. If you are taller than them get a wizar with your left arm and let the right arm be free, pull them up slightly with the left arm and turn for a throw, or pull them to the side than down and do a foot sweep. You can engage with the right as you are doing the moves but leave it free and tuck it and protect your right side from an under hook by his left arm. This way you kill alot of his attacks while leaving some of yours open. Keep that wizar tight witht he left though. GL
You should have put him to sleep. That eye poke was BS.
@@erniestrother3545 nah he’s a cool dude outside of training
@@SS.LiuRyan doesn’t seem like it if he’s poking your eyes.
@@SS.LiuRyanthe dude literally said “that’s just grappling! 🤷🏻♂️” after you said that he hooked your nose, eye and mouth. He’s not a nice person. He’s a competitive penis hole.
@@erniestrother3545 thats why i said outside of training haha
@@SS.LiuRyan l let this one go.
> "please don't risk permanently blinding me"
> "🙄 KAHjMAWN!"
@@serioussilliness2064 lmfao hes a good friend no worries
You move like a bjj guy, not a judoka. No ashi waza, no kuzushi.
Also, don't let someone just grab your head like that, especially someone heavier
@@SV-bo8yn lol i do both. this was right after a practice for me and muay thai sparring for both of us so obviously we dont look fresh
@@SS.LiuRyan no need to be so defensive, you can just take the feedback
@@SV-bo8yn how was i defensive lol
@@SS.LiuRyanyou have good upper body control, but don't forget ashi waza.
Camo shorts wearing socks in the cage shows his blatant disregard for well being of others ! What an animal !!
@@PeralesMartialArts lmfao wrestlers dont like being barefoot they want shoes or socks
Great footage, really clashing styles. At my first BJJ gym we trained a lot of Greco, usually pairing it with light boxing and elbows. Standing clinch can be really entertaining just on its own.
@@haircutdeluxe thats awesome which bjj gym you train at? thatd be super fun
@@SS.LiuRyan Straight Blast Gym, or SBG. It originated when a Jeet Kune Do instructor was exposed to BJJ and immediately hooked, and then a few years later Randy Couture and several other Greco wrestlers trained there to add that element. It turns out that attacking from single collar tie and underhook is almost like the real life version of the flowing hands drills, or the wooden dummy in wing chun.
I like the Greco because I’ve always had a lot of natural upper body strength and if I can get a body lock I can move from there to mount or back control really effectively as I get a takedown.
This was awesome!! I dont do martial arts bc im visually impaired and struggle a lot with socializing 😅 but i wlways enjoy watching how different martial arts interavt w eachother!
Im planning on actually doing BJJ by the start of 2025 (i watch those shorts on loop 😭) but i heard BJJ and Judo are a great combination so i might try it too!
Anyway, ur a boss.
@@ConsciousComeuppance bjj is probably your best bet! i love bjj even tho i make fun of it, but charles oliveira became the fighting world champion while visually impaired using bjj. very inspiring. good luck with your journey!
Yeah finger in eyes and fish hooks nah bro
@@anthonysiu6010 yeah fuck that
I would say Judo wone simply because it ended in a more dominant back take, with the choke close to locked in . Although Greco overall was more dominant on the take downs and transitions, he's clearly got a weight advantage and strength. Judo should work on getting those leg hooks in and taking time with the choke and not rushing for it. Great rounds except the dirty gouging.
@@enzo.l1878 thank you, hes a great dude
Что за грязная долбежка 😂
He had you on bottom and you told him to advance position because you could’ve get out. It’s your job to get out of that position not to talk mid roll because he’s holding you down 😂
@@Marcos.861 he was cranking as hard as he could to try to finish a submission i just told him there wasnt one there
4:45 ??????😂
Right! WTF was that?!
@@seanoreilly9950 lmfao attempted lat drop fail happens all the time
NICE BACK TAKE AT THE END, well played
@@markomilanov3860 thank you lol
@@SS.LiuRyan very intense sparring to watch, It was a relief when you finally got on his back :D
Good to see Liu Kang doing some bjj
@@businessdawg2 ayyy thanks dawg
I love how everyone watching outside the ring was so confused as to what's going on😂😂
@@Adversity1st lmfao fr we do all kinds of styles
@@SS.LiuRyan very cool!
he may have trained "greco" in the past but he's not exactly a greco wrestler. seems more like folkstyle to me which would explain his over aggressiveness. very common for folkstyle wrestlers doing grappling
@@andreantoine9702 hes done folkstyle its v common in the US for folkstyle high schoolers to do greco and then be more successful with greco later on since you have to go to college to do collegiate which is more similar to folk
Old man is strong as a horse
@@jayyys5648 ikr lol old man strength
Yeah . That was a nasty sparring session. The one you can end up injured or worst. Cervical locks, neck cranks are things that you should avoid in a healthy gym environment. Obviously this is from a casual bjj player point of view. You can go harder here and there but that guy was not a great training partner.
@@TheGeovanibetin he wasnt but hes a good friend hes part of the team. im a catch wrestler too so for me that was all on the table
For sure. All that said, the guy is a machine. Good job, mate.
Well, at this context, the greco romam guy, was better in tachi waza. But if was in the pavement, he wold break his own knees wich this transitions.
@@JIUJITSUMAN22 that’s why sanda my main sport disallows knee touching the ground
片一方は明らかに心の鍛え方が足りない。紳士的にすべき友人同士のスパーリングで反則してまで粋がるのはこのうえなく恥ずかしい。彼はどうか半年以内に目潰しが許されたファイトに参戦して彼の勇気を証明してほしい。そうでなければ私は彼が「目潰しが禁じられたファイトのみ参戦して相手が自分には目潰しをしてこない状況でのみ目潰しを行う」ただの臆病者にしか思えない。
hes a good guy dont worry. he came to support me when i competed at sanda nationals
@@SS.LiuRyan 普段親切だったらスパーリングで反則をしてもいいのか。しかも後遺症になりかねないようなレベルの。貴方はよくても、他のメンバーに良くない。
@@Tom__2023its not okay for him to do that to anyone, but dont think too badly of him he is a good guy
@@SS.LiuRyan いいか悪いかなんて主観だから結論は出ないのは承知している。貴方にとってはgood guy。でも私にとってはそうではない。
@@Tom__2023i can tell you because i know him personally he is a good guy
the camo shorts guy seems way too aggressive lmao
@@BenInGame hes a cool dude but aggressiveness is a great trait for martial arts
Good stuff, that aint a wrestler , that’s a dude that did Greco for 2 months and only practiced lat drops 😅 good on you for getting his back
Only took two months of wrestling training to wreck a judo practitioner
@@sincityinfinity6255he didn’t wreck anything other than his knees with those shitty transitions. The judo guy kept his composure while the other guy rolled like a pussy.
@@andrewbell262 he is a wrestler lol ik him personally hes a friend
Wrestler was snazzy af
@@nateswain4633 ong
For me judo is always the best grappling martial art also in the ground its as good as the bjj
@@user-td1ew7sd8o i disagree. i grappled a brown belt in judo in asia (which in america water down deflation of judo is a second degree black belt) and his ground game was good but not nearly as good as even purple belts in bjj ive grappled
@@SS.LiuRyan yeah you actually right bjj is the best on ground but i meant judo is close from it
@@user-td1ew7sd8o agreed yeah
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I don't feel like judo is very great here however. Without disrespect
@@alexandrehuat773 all good brother everyone has a right to an opinion
U did not want to engage with ur upperbody with a greco guy 😂
@@luketrible haha fuck no but thats the judo game
Amazing video
@@carabinapacifista5627 thank you brother!
Whats ur judo rank brother?
@@businessdawg2 dont have an official rank bc i did no gi but i trained under matt who teaches no gi judo at protege performance
@@SS.LiuRyan alr
Keep poking them eyes 😂
@@molostone8946 hahaha hes a great guy outside of training
@@SS.LiuRyan who cares what he's like outside of training? During one he's a dick and that sucks 😞
Listen bro i just watched the full video. This guy you wrestling is good but really im not sure what belt you are but if you are black belt in judo then this guy is not your level. I have trained in wrestling and study the art and do a lot of research and i can tell you that greco roman wrestlers are explosive in their attacks. Like i have seen them go off like bombs. This im not is it because of his age but his not like the greco roman wrestlers who i have watched.
@@sskiol1759 he like other greco roman wrestlers is very explosive and has cross trained in other wrestling styles
@@SS.LiuRyan he is good but i dont know what black blet you have in judo
@@sskiol1759 you post yourself doing some judo
Bro don’t listen to these dudes there keyboard warriors
@@thunderkatz4219 ikr lol? i get them all the time
😂that guy is gonna retire early with injuries if he is grappling on the regular.
@@rns7426 which one?
11 (g) 8(j) You loose.
@@danielhung7191 scoring criteria?
Once again not a Greco-Roman wrestler. Bro he was way too aggressive his inexperience could've got you hurt. Who does that eye gouging and fish hooking stuff? Too bad you don't do jujitsu.
@@kirkwilson6850 i do jiu jitsu lmfao i have a blue belt and won states in bjj. and he is a greco roman wrestler wdym 💀 you dont know what youre talking about
@SS.LiuRyan okay my guy. None of what you showed me was jujitsu you couldn't escape anything terrible transitions he was really doggin you and you couldn't do anything. He may have seen wrestling but he doesn't train it. First give away was his choice to wear socks on the mat. You should have ended that match as soon as it went to the ground without trying.
@@kirkwilson6850 this was right after two practices and muay thai sparring. i didnt prepare for this like a fight. also i escaped shit and ended up with him in a rear naked how is that not bjj? have you considered maybe my pin escapes were not as effective bc yk, hes a greco roman wrestler and can pin people off throws? he has trained wrestling and is training wrestling with me in this video. its like youre commenting under a video of a dude doing squats and saying he skips legs. the proof he trains is right there in the video we're in an mma gym in a cage training wrestling. loads of wrestlers prefer to wear socks on the mat if they arent allowed shoes lol. and i told him not to wear wrestling shoes bc itd make the leg locks worse. thats my first give away that youve never wrestled hahaha. and you think that i shouldve ended that match as soon as it went to the ground? have you never fought a wrestler before? theyre good on the ground too. get off the keyboard and go train man. stop scrolling on my yt like its a full time job and go try shit or better yet pull up and spar. where are you located? im in arizona. you see the gyms i train at. do you need an address?
@@SS.LiuRyan send the address.
@@SS.LiuRyanKirk is a bit of a dummy, dude in the video obviously knew some good techniques, he might be getting older and doesn’t train wrestling consistently anymore but he obviously knows how to apply top pressure, he moves like a spaz though, the type to cause injuries for sure.
I think according any rules: street fight, mma, wrestling and even grappling wrestling guy won. He got take downs, pinned you and controlled you most of time. The only moment you might have won was at the end when you took his back and almost submitted him, but I think time was up. But even then if he was a little but smarter to the end and just defended then it would be dominant victory.
According to the rules? Brother what? This is a sparring video, not a street fight and bro is tryna learn and not go crazy like the wrestling guy.......
@@fred4800 if youre a wrestler thats a fair assessment i would say. other people in the comments share your opinion, and other people disagree with you. grappling rules im not sure. either way great experience
Ni una sola técnica de judo
you have never studied judo if you think theres no judo techniques. the olympics have ruined judo smh
@@SS.LiuRyan ni un intento de osoto gari, ni ippon seoi nage, uchi mata, ashi barai etc.. dime el minuto donde intentas alguno de esos derribos básicos maestro
@@tony-jg8jkyou try doing those against a greco roman wrestler. check the hadaka jime at the end. clearly judo. and the hand fighting and sasae attempts all judo.
@@SS.LiuRyan lo único que vi de judo fueron tus técnicas de ne-waza que tampoco hubo sometimiento por ninguna parte que eso lo entiendo es difícil pelear contra un greco wrestler pero tampoco digas que los derribos básicos son inservibles contra ellos porque por lo que vi en el vídeo no intentaste ninguno y muchos de ellos son muy efectivos alomejor después de un par de intentos lo hubieses logrado pero simplemente no lo intentaste.
@@tony-jg8jk its also difficult without a gi. i did try lol i just didnt feel any openings bc the kazushi
No pulling guard… *pulls guard*
@@silas369. no one pulled guard lol
hes so old and slow
@@remus2872 not slow hes def explosive. i would say hes more explosive than me
the “wrestler” is not very good at wrestling
@@bassi9499 how lol?
Sloppy wrestling
@@GT1Vette come train and show us your wrestling
@@SS.LiuRyan where are you located? You don't think he was a little sloppy?
@@GT1Vette arizona. and no after wrestling with national champion greco roman wrestlers and olympic wrestlers like cejudo. obviously hes not anywhere near an olympic gold medal but hes not sloppy either
@@SS.LiuRyan idk why I thought you were in CA
@@GT1Vette i competed in cali a couple weeks ago and tbh our wrestling in az is better anyway at least than norcal. im from cali too