Shotguns Suck For Home Defense
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2022
- Shotguns Suck For Home Defense
Chadd tells all of the reasons why shotguns make for terrible home defense weapons.
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As someone who unfortunately did have to utilize my home defense gun in 2003 I can assure you my 12 gauge did it's job and the two armed intruders both did not survive.
The former Seal has great info and knows what he is talking about.... but shotguns '' not that silly duck head he displays'' are deadly home defenders in capable hands.
@@shinenwga7784 Yeah and the damage done is impressive. According to the medical examiner's report one of the intruders died before he even hit the ground with 7 of the 9 pellets landing in his brain and the other two went through his neck. The 2nd intruder had all 9 pellets hit him in his chest and he had a pulse when the police and paramedics arrived however he went into cardiac arrest when they were attempting to transport him and resuscitative efforts failed.
You missed the point. You can use a bat to kill intruders but that's not the best tool. Shotgun is the worst type of gun to use for HD, but it'll work.
@@ohtehlolz Not really. A rifle is the worst for home defense. Shotgun&pistol are the best.
I put a brace on my Shockwave 20-ga.
What the heck. There are three black Tahoe out here with AFT on the door!
I guess we've been using shotguns for home defense the wrong way for the last 100+ years. 😂🤣
I carried a 12 ga pump most of the time while I was in the jungles of Vietnam. All my bud’s wanted to be next to me. Wasn’t no hostage involved 😂😂. So I’ll still depend on my shotgun & Everyone just need to duck.
I read that platoons in VN with at least one shotgun had a higher kill ratio than platoons without a shotgun.
Thank you for your service!
I'll just use my 12 gauge pump I just purchased last week. Thank You.
I’ve owned a pump shotgun for 30yrs of marriage and often thought about wife or kids as a hostage. .38 special early years then 9mm light Hollow Point.
His point is well taken. Know the situation.
Thank you Sir.
God Bless
"everyone just need to duck"
See, now that's funny.
Good video. Good content
Respectfully disagree about shotguns. It’s actually the best tool for the majority of normal citizens. We’re talking about normal people not retired operators. Requires the least amount of training to be adequate, has the highest probability of one shot stops and with a good ammo choice the least chance of over penetration.
The likelihood of ever needing to use it are very slim. The likelihood of needing to be the marksman hero in a hostage situation in your home is virtually zero.
Best reply thread over nuf said.
Turns out being in the military and loud doesn’t make you a smart person
Well said.
Shotguns require MORE practice, not less. They are conceptually easy to use but unpracticed people short stroke them and dont know how to manage recoil well
The guy does have informative and useful videos, but this isn't one of them. Shotguns are absolutely effective. Police and military have been using them effectively for years. The condescending attitude doesn't help sell his case either.
Barring the hostage scenario, I’ll take my chances with my 12 gauge for home defense.
A San Diego cop stopped a hostage situation with a shotgun. Blew the guys head off within a few yards. ruclips.net/video/p4BmhdP4ZWw/видео.html&ab_channel=ActiveSelfProtection
At 20 feet the shotgun is probably better at that too .
What it lacks in accuracy , it makes up for In stopping power .
You don't have to shoot their head like you would need to do with a 9mm , shoot the spine , arm that's holding the gun .
That rare scenario it's up for debate .
Yeah, this guy is stupid. Not sure why he’s on my feed and couldn’t get very far in this nonsense video
@@amosweatherford249 I drop deer at 100yrds easy so I'd say they're very accurate. A 12ga is the baddest thing on the planet up close and I know from years of experience
@@vinceaikens195
I shot most of my hogs with buckshot too , I think he's talking about the stray pallets hitting a hostage .
At 100 yards the spread Is unpredictable , but inside a home with mod choke it's very small and predictable .
My wife has a cousin who is and has been in special forces for many years. He was in Afghanistan at the beginning and did many tours as a captain. His favorite up close weapon of choice was a mil spec shotgun.
Most home invasions end the moment the criminals have entered a protected home.
Usually 1 discharge of a firearm is enough to send them hightailing it for the door.
For a regular homeowner to be involved in a hostage situation is such a low low probability, almost non existent.
Professional door kickers yes, but as a farmer, we would greet any guests with our Remington 870 or Mossburg 590A-1 with warm #1buck.
Besides, the Mossburg sounds like a cannon going off in the outdoors, can't imagine what kind of reverb it would generate in my house. Even if I didn't wound a would be intruder, I'm sure he would be tone deaf for a while.
If you don't want any of the above to even have a chance of happening get yourself a couple a good dogs. No intruder will want to tangle with them and you will have a couple of head scratchers you can call friends and that will be loyal.
I have a trained 120lb German Shepard. And have had someone try to break in to our house . Needless to say he was lucky he was able to get out b4 Thor got a hold of him . Thor did the job b4 I got there with my carbine
I live in farm country. I swear some farmers have super human hearing. I drive a dump truck as part of my job. If I do roadside repairs like mail boxes, signs, etc... you can almost count on the land owners showing up. And yes, they usually have a rifle on hand with them. I have a very good relationship with them so they know what I'm up to. If things go down later this year with the election my piece of advice to you goons who live in the city thinking your going to take stuff from these farmers and cattlemen is turn around and go back to the ghetto you came from. Those farmers and ranchers will not hesitate to make a jig saw puzzle of your body if to threaten them or try to steal from them. So city scum bums you have been warned.
@@SacredHeart0520had a chow named Thor, that’s dope dude.
With more than 34 years as a Marine, to include combat, and law enforcement experience, I have no words for your comments about the proper use of a shotgun. By the way, that was not a shotgun, it was a Shockwave and that was not a PCC that was a pistol; unless you have a tax stamp for it. Good luck in your future endeavors.
@philtorres3402 I live in a very rural area. As a farmer we always have 22's, shotguns and usually a large caliber hunting rifle. I am proficient with those and I don't own any other Semi automatic firearms. I think I was only trying to point out that any weapon in home defense is a plus.
I live on the northern boarder and we now have illegals pouring in, literally.
As a combat Marine yourself, you know any tool is a weapon out of necessity.
Thank you for your comment. I have an older son who is an 03 Lieutenant in the USN. He flies on the P8 Poseidon. VMI graduate.
I have another who is 03 11 lance corporal currently deployed in the East. He always has funny stories to relay and I'm very happy for him. The Marine Corp has helped him find his footing and focus. I wish you well and good health in your retirement.
Hello,
Just my 2 cents…for what it is worth.
1. What is the percentage of home invasions where precision-hostage shots are needed ?
2. 9mm will go through wall.
3. At 10 steps or less, the spread of 00 is the size of a fist, thinking anything else is fantasy.
4. If we talk about heart rate and shaky hands due to stress, choosing a tool that actually requires precision is illogical.
5. Demonstrating the shortcomings of the shotgun for home defense with an inadequate shorty is bias. Especially since you ended up not showing the actual result on camera. An 870 youth model with reduce recoiled buckshot is a fantastic home defense tool utilizing gross motor skills, and is the best fight ending tool we have per round counts.
6. I don’t want to “shoot all day” at the bad guy.
Salut , Vol
Je viens de liker ton propos
( je pense qu il est plus que valide 😉 ) et viens de voir que tu en es l auteur !
Le monde est petit 😄
Merci pour tout ton taf et coucou au Montana
Bien le bonjour des Hautes Pyrenees
Stay safe ! 🙂
So interesting. In 2004-2005 I was in Iraq on the IRF breach team. As the first through the door I used 00 buck for over a year and it was devastating. No double taps needed. Yes I trained and trained but to say it Sucks for home defense is crazy. Every targets I faced had a rifle and they were buried with it. Training is key with any weapon. I guarantee no one would want to charge a room of a trained man with a shotgun.
Good job bragging about killing people in an illegal war, leetle pinche
you mean men trained with a shotgun?
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YES, but did you have to CLEAN UP THE MESS? Didn't think so...
No you weren’t. THE BREACHER IS NEVER FIRST IN. NEVER. Not in law enforcement, and not in the military. Not even in 2004-2005 pal AND THATS A FACT!!! And even breachers carry a rifle, which they switch to before going through the door, and they have since then too. GO FOOL SOMEONE ELSE 😂😂😂
Shotguns are outstanding for home defense, but be careful if you take one outside of the house.
Why not outside? Because they are better at being a distance tool? Or are you talking about an AOW like the silly bearded fella in the video?
@@pussbust7073 Not only is he a silly bearded fella he is also a prick he thinks because he was a Navy seal that makes him the all knowing weapons God & knows more about life than anyone else. He talks down to people on his videos like he is the greatest and everyone else is beneath him. I normally don't click on his videos but I wanted to see what he had to say about shotguns and like I thought he is full of sh!t I keep both at the ready 12ga. & .40 Beretta.
12g gauge shot gun not good for home defense?
I was with ya until you came out with this.
On a military security teem we had the pick of the armory and I always grabbed a 12 gauge and my 45.
True story. The LE department I used to work for got into a shootout with a subject a few years ago. One officer had a .40 handgun and the other officer had a 5.56 rifle with iron sights. The one with the .40 went thru 2 mags trying to hit this subject firing at them, he didn't land one bullet. The one officer with the 5.56 lit his torso up, landing 12 rounds within a few seconds.
A pistol round will go right through walls too.
I don’t think hostage situations are the majority of home defense situations.
I've got a Winchester silver-tip hollow point .38spl round lodged in my wall from when the neighbor's wife tried to kill him. The round went through their wall, across the yard and into my wall.
@@klawockkidd3426 WHAATT??
@@klawockkidd3426 that’s scary and exactly why I prefer a shotgun for home defense.
@@klawockkidd3426 no brick wall on the outside of your home? Was it just siding, and what kind?
@@dragonsofthunder most likely 1/2” or 3/4” brittle siding, 1/2” OSB, insulation, and 1/2” drywall.
Was hoping to see where all the 00 buck pellets went at 10 feet. From my personal experience, I'd say they were all grouped together on the bad guy around radius of a hand? I've never seen 00 buck have a crazy spread inside 20 yrds. How comfortable would someone feel about using it, is a different question, but I don't think the spread is going to be an issue at 10 feet.
About half hit the bad guy and the other half hit the hostage. 😳👍
Use dear slug
@@michaelphillips5786 At 10 feet? unless the barrel was sawed off to 6 inches 00 buck will stay within the size of your fist. Probably why he didn't shoot at that target. nuf said lol
@@michaelphillips5786 at 10 feet, with 00 buck? That seems unlikely, unless poorly aimed.
There's a reason he doesn't show it. 8 shot buck at that distance is tight. It doesn't support his argument. Idk why he's using that dumb shockwave either.
I live alone in a house out in the country. My go to is a 12 gauge shotgun with a flashlight mounted. I’m not worried about hostages if there is a hostage that means the person who broke in brought them with him and oh well.
Ten yards with the proper 00 buck will stay in the head box of the target (I'm guessing that's why you didn't show the 00 buck shot), 9mm will zip right through multiple layers of drywall (work on that low left shooting seal), 5.56 jhp will obliterate upon initial impact of an object due to the ballistics. The more you know....
This i too wondered why he didn't shoot the shotgun thought he was unsure. I have a lot of experience with a shotgun never saw one shoot 00 buck at 10 yards bigger than a fist.
Exactly. This argument is dumb.
Every drywall test I have watched where the drywall is spaced out like an actual room, 5.56 tipped and softpoint rounds always penetrated less than 9mm. I don’t understand why people think fat, slow, and tough handgun rounds are safer in a home than small, super-fast, and fragile 5.56 or 5.45 rounds.
ha i just commented asking why the shot wasn't shown... he either couldn't hit it or didn't want people to form their own opinions.
@@fnkdtnkmy local swat team uses 308 when they specifically have to deal with trailer parks and thin walled buildings like apartments.
Respectfully disagree.
First, my shotgun is loaded with a round in the chamber. I won't be racking it to scare someone off.
I'm not worried about over penetration either. I'm in the country and I won't be hitting my neighbors house.
To me it's the perfect home defense weapon. YMMV.
#4 buck magnum or not lots of lead in one shot
Check out some of the penetration vids on YT. May change your mind or maybe tactics. I keep AR12 ready to go but it’s 3rd string. My 9mm sidearm and AR9 are primary. I can reliably hit 8” target from 0-80 yards with the AR9 after running around the property.
The problem I see with a shotgun is that it's too unwieldy. If you come around a corner and the BG sees you, one of his first instincts will be to grab the barrel and now you're in a life and death MMA match. Also you need both hands for it, whereas with a pistol you can use your free hand to slowly open doors and turn on lights etc. At the end of the day though, any gun that's ready to rock is a whole heck of a lot better than nothing!
One of the reasons I prefer a handgun is that carbines, shotguns and PCC's all operate under the assumption that you'll have both hands available. For those with children, being able to carry or grab something while still having an effective weapon might make the decision for you.
That’s a big factor for me. I wish I could still use a shotgun as a primary HD gun, but my house is way too small and my 2 year old gets into everything, so I can’t keep one as quickly accessible even if my house was set up for it. Handgun it is for me for a while with a PCC as a backup or for my wife to get to after I’m already deployed.
Pretty simple solution...have both a handgun, and a rifle chambered in something like .300 blackout(ideally, obviously not practical for everyone). Its also important to note that it absolutely depends on the geometry and layout of your home though. If you have long hallways and a large house, or if you also live on a large plot of land with acreage you wish to defend, then a standard AR platform may be your preferred weapon, but either way you should still have a handgun on you as well. Personally I think having something like a p320 with a kit on it and a good scope is the most ideal home defense weapon for most people, and then you can have a standard handgun should you be in a situation where you dont have 2 hands free. Definitely not saying that people shouldnt also have a rifle, but I think for most people a handgun with a kit on it is going to be the most effective overall option despite requiring 2 hands to operate.
@@Handcannon77 to hell with a p320. You're tripping
@@dragonsofthunder Why dont you like the p320? I think both the p320 and 365 are both excellent carry handguns.
Lol
With all due respect, I thought this was about home defense, not a hostage situation. I will stay with the 12 gauge. It's dark and you don't have time to aim. That's the advantage of the scatter gun! ❤️
That is incorrect Sir. At normal contact distances in most homes you need to sight it like a rifle. Using any quality buckshot such as Federal Tactical it will be a tight pattern. AIM not point
@1olddirtroad yes the shot pattern is tight at close range, expect maybe if it's open choke. I get your point, no pun intended. 🙂 I hope and pray I'm never in this situation. But if I was, I want the most destructive weapon, and one that will not hit someone in the next room or across the street. I guess a laser light would be helpful as well. Although, 2 pit bulls and a baseball bat might also be an effective deterrent. 🤔 Happy New Year!
I'm going to take my chances and listen to the trained navy seal that knows what he's talking about.
The standard estimate is the pattern opens up 1" per yard. So at 10 yards, which is a lot in most houses, you have a ten inch pattern. The problem with that is you still have to aim, but you can also get a few past the target if you are off a little.
@@TheOpenMinder5985 Not sure but I don't think the guy has any combat experience. Just did some security duty for one of the US Presidents overseas. After that just talked a lot of crap like he does now.
It’s a breaching tool? Does breaching their head count? What about the testicles, or torso?
Indeed. He didn't get to the part that with a shotgun you need a good backstop, right? And that backstop is called "The Perp" so yeah I think i'll make sure there will be a backstop if I have to fire ;)
My benelli m4 and surefire light with flite control begs to differ. The hostage shot would be an example of knowing the limitations of your equipment and your situation though. I would take that shot with a slug and the ghost ring sights, or with my bedside g19 rmr.
Why in the world would you have to take a hostage shot? You could have the cheapest 12 gauge on the market and have a dog sitting in your porch and nobody should EVER get to your family. Hostage situation will never actually happen in real life if you take home defence seriously
"Hostage shot" 😂😂😂 love these guys who think they'll have to become seal team 6 at any moment.
@@catfracker1319yep. Dog, alarm, motion lights, cameras upper middle class neighborhood. The chances are very low but home invasions with multiple attackers do happen.
@@DB-sd3cwnope not a SEAL. I do carry a gun for a living and train accordingly. But whatever it’s the internet so clown me as much as you want it’s no factor. God bless.
@Joey G why are you typing on RUclips shouldn't you be training for a Diehard situation where you'll have to save nakatomi tower at any moment?
Kills me everytime... I dont know why no matter how many times this debate comes up a hostage situation is always the thing that comes up..... not every scenario is goin down in a hostage situation. Not every scenario is there goin to be 3 to 7 guys breaking in your house with or without body armor. Use what you're most comfortable with, use what works for your house. The weapon isnt nearly as much what matters as much as knowing how it will perform and how you will under stress. It comes down to training and testing whatever you plan to use. A man living in a 2 story house with a wife and six kids ain't gonna have the same thought process as a single dude just gettin out on his own or a single mom with a child or better yet a soldier who worked in a professional capacity over in Afghanistan....... it's time to end the fuckin argument and just be happy atleast people take it seriously enough to want and have firearms to defend their homes and loved ones.
Totally agree. This guys whole attitude towards the topic is immature.
@@dtmfool789 absolutely.
But what if you do encounter a hostage situation, then what? I like a Glock 19 for CC and home defense. I suppose I could carry a snub nose 38 because I probably wont encounter a hostage situation, an armed robbery with multiple dudes, a home invasion with 5 guys or some weirdo shooting up Walmart with and AR....but what if I do? Then my snubby is gonna have some serious shortcomings. So for me I ask myself, if I actually get into any armed encounter whatsoever, would I rather have a snubnose 38 with a short barrel, short sight radius, slow to reload, only 5 shots, etc or a Glock 19 with an extra mag? Same thing with home defense, I'd take a glock 19 over a shotgun any day because its way more versatile.
@@Skinnymoose Right... but you clearly didnt grasp my reasoning behind my comment.... because never once did I mention any weapon platform. I was stating the fact that you should be proficient with whatever YOU! or any other individual decide to use for your plan of scenarios... it comes down to knowledge of the weapon and training. I dont care how many rounds your gun can hold, if you freeze up? Hesitate? and shit goes down? the amount of bullets dont matter if you dont hit the intended target. At the end of the day, I dont care if you use a single shot shotgun, or a full auto mp5sd. If you know what you're doin and know how to deploy it, THATS WHAT MATTERS. Not gettin into a comment war with you but hopefully this clears it up for you. At the end of the day we all in this shit together, God bless from ole Carolina.
You start off saying the hostage-scenario is BS, then go off mentioning… scenarios. 3of7 is correct - the best option for ALL the most likely situations a person defending their home may run into, is a PCC.
I live in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by mountains on all sides, my nearest neighbors are on the other side of the mountains.
I could use a damn M-134 (if I had one) for home defense, and never have to worry about unintentionally hitting anyone other than my target.
Home defense weapons are highly dependent on environment, and skill level with the weapon in question.
Whatever weapon you choose, put some thought into it, and train with it like your life depends on it.
Have you ever had a problem clear the hell out there alone?
The best gun for home defense, is the gun you shoot the best with.
We’ll said
Best advice on the page ❤
Grenades never fail.
@@WesmancanFlamethrowers for the win!
Duh 🙄
I know ur a former seal and have alot of firearm experience but in the correct setting 12gauge in the rite hands is absolutely a great home defense weapon if ur trained and efficient with it. IN THE CORRECT SETTING BEING EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
Not arguing, but I think the giga Chad was saying that the PCC is better for more of the settings than the shotgun. Every tool has its specific use and something is better than nothing. The hostage situation is one example of the shottie not being the hottie.
In November of 2016 a San Diego Police Officer used a shotgun to put down a serial murderer who was holding a hostage at gunpoint.
Although The Ford vs Chevy, Apple vs Pc, shotgun vs ( Fill in the blank ) for home defense arguments will never end , I disagree with the conclusion provided in this video. I’m not a special forces guy or nothing , just a retired LEO. I have investigated shootings both OIS and self defense and this topic is something I do have experience in. I challenge anyone to have someone wake them from a sound sleep abruptly at 0300, jump out of bed , get your weapon in hand and eyes focusing within seconds in a dark house. Most people bounce off of walls and run into stuff just trying to hit the head in that scenario. Try quickly getting an accurate sight picture in a dark hallway with your handgun in that same example. In a life and death situation where seconds count, coming from a sound sleep, the shotgun ( with a mounted light) is a solid choice. He lightly touched on the very important consideration of over penetration with his rifle but that issue deserves more thought especially in densely populated neighborhoods …kids etc in other bedrooms and is why the AR etc is personally not my first choice for home defense. I don’t consider the model shotgun used in the video as the best choice for anything other than something maybe fun to shoot. Ymmv
You make a video on why the shotgun sucks and you don’t even fire the gun once? This has to be bait because even a 14” shockwave will pattern small enough for that hostage target at that distance.
I like shotties but a shockwave has got to be the worst option available.
@@jackjeffery1536not with a lazer and mini shells
@@brian9227 L.O.L, you rock that little shotty with little shells! If you love it love it!, I have come to the conclusion that each individual can have their own personal preferences and that is good!
The problems not the lack of training it's the price of ammo these days. Hell it cost 40$ just for 30 min of shooting at best. 30min of shooting or half a tank of gas? Gotta get to work lol
Get a membership, and if you're a veteran or first responder you get a discount
SIRT Pistol, the Mantis Blackbeard and the Mantis Laser software will quickly pay for themselves and allow you to SAFELY train where you would need to use them in your house.
Live pay check to pay check now thanks to Biden. Nothing extra for anything. Plus four kids to feed
some people think shotgun pellets spread all over the place even at short distances. Actually from 10 ft they stay grouped in an area of about a hand. From 20 ft you can still hit center mass with all the 9 pellets
So many people that conceal carry, open carry, etc….. don’t understand how unprepared they are to use a handgun. I’ve been in the Army for 16 years, and I’m an officer so pistol is my assigned weapon. However, I can definitely tell a difference when I’ve been practicing and when I have not. I go from shooting a near perfect expert score on the combat pistol course, to barely passing if I haven’t touched it since the last time I qual’d. But beyond the shooting part, so many aren’t prepared for the draw! And they don’t realize how dangerous a draw, especially from a conceal carry holster, can be! Danger to yourself, as well as anyone else. Can you do draw clean without snagging clothing? Without inducing a negligent discharge? Grabbing it so quickly you accidentally hit the mag release? Or engage the safety
Good points
I've definitely seen a lot of officers over my 30 years of active duty who could not shoot their assigned pistols very well. That is until a good NCO had coached them on proper grip, stance, aiming, and trigger control. I'm sort of joking and not really poking fun at all officers. Most often the pistol qual ranges were predominantly officers. So of course, I would have seen more officers struggle. However, the few junior enlisted and NCOs that had to qualify, did on average perform a lot better. I have always theorized that a possible reason for that is because almost all of the junior enlisted and NCOs actually were made to attend the PMI and training and paid attention to it. Whereas a lot of the officers managed to either skip that portion of training or didn't pay much attention to it. I absolutely agree that proficiency is developed through repetitive and current practice. The best marksmanship stats I've seen in units were those units that actually made everyone attend quality PMIs, identified those that needed additional training, and then coached firers during familiarization fire, and then conducted ranges where all firers were able to first shoot under direct supervision from proficient coaches. At some point, a lot of units stopped doing some of the old-time-tested training measures for rifles too. Things like the old dime/washer drills or using the shadowbox to teach trigger squeeze and sight picture, sight alignment.
You are so right about the number of us, self included, who suffer from delusions of adequacy when it comes to hand guns.
"delusions of adequacy" that is spot on in so many areas of life.
I try to go to the indoor range at least once a week to shoot my ccw. I have no delusions, however, that I'm not good with it. I carry but I pray to God everyday that I don't ever have to draw this thing because I'm sure I'm more liable to shooting myself in a high stress situation than a bad guy.
@@mattysee24 don't need to fire live ammo to get good training in. Start simple and work your way up EVERY DAY. If you have the capability, it is your responsibility to be proficient with your tools Otherwise you should not be carrying them.
This is a generalized answer. When the atf comes to the door, they come to the door there is 3 or 4 of them , at least in the videos I've seen. Most of the time they are standing together. Or on the other hand, home invaders break down the front door and file in one by one so yes a shot gun with 7 or 8 shot will put them down 2 at a time , maybe not lethal, but will mess them up real bad and take them out of the fight , so I dont know what the fuck your talking about. Not everybody is a navy seal and go 15 for 15 in a stressful situation.
And this is all assuming you don't ND and nick your femoral on your draw! 😂😂
Man, he’s calling us skid marks, fat with bad hearts and terrible shots, love you too and Merry Christmas to all.
He’s right about 90% of the people here 😂
Sometimes people need a reality check the truth is not always easy to accept but when you do you start anew
I mean he ain't wrong I was stationed in Italy for 3 years stayed there for 2 years straight without coming back to the US and the first thing I thought when I came back was everyone is fat, but he's wrong when saying shotguns suck for home defense a hostage situation in a home defense situation is very unlikely and I went camping once and slept with my shotgun and heard people around my tent in the middle of the night I racked a round into the chamber before stepping out and they ran fast as fuck after hearing that
I agree on this, Hand guns are a martial art they take practice and proficiency many hours of practice. It is the most unstable of all firearms. But whatever is right for you is what works. There aren’t going to be any hostages in my house. I’m gonna side with Clint smith on this one bud. I’m an instinctive shotgun shooter I will take my chances there. Confidence is the shooters vitamin c
Brandon said go outside and fire two shots in the air.
As for penetrating walls, Chadd, your PCC will increase muzzle velocity and penetrate more walls than your handgun. A .22lr will over penetrate when you don't want it to. There's no simple answer but to not shoot in the direction of friends & family. I love you and your work Shipmate Chadd! - Glory to God
“A lot of y’all got bad hearts too cuz you’re fat” I just about died 😂
Cause you’re fat.
No weapon is perfect. Use what works best for you. Most home defense situations can be handled with a shotgun. Again,use what works best for you, whether it’s a shotgun, rifle, pistol etc. Just train and become as proficient as possible with whatever you choose.
I worked in a felony prosecutor's office for five years. The worst photos I ever had to look at were the crime scene and autopsy,/ER photos of people who had been killed, or just seriously wounded, with shotguns. It made me really not want to ever get shot with one. No other weapon made such horrible wounds that I ever dealt with. I can understand the recoil thing. I carried a shotgun and a submachine gun, and an M-4 most of my law enforcement career as a federal agent. The one part of our quarterly firearms training and qualification that I didn't really enjoy, was practicing and qualifying with the shotguns. My shoulder would always be sore for a couple of days afterwards. I actually used to feel sorry for the female agents when they had to shoot them. But, to be on the receiving end?
It's a brutal weapon, but does have some usefulness.
I absolutely concur
Agree with some points here but a shotgun with buckshot don’t spread that much at close ranges. Having trained with shotguns and being proficient with them they generally will pattern about 1 inch per yard. (That’s with shitty ammo). Home defense ranges they’re closer to a rifle than what most people believes. At 10 paces you can easily do a hostage situation with a shotgun and it has been before in real life. Even though it’s extremely unlikely. Get whichever weapon you feel comfortable with and shoot it a lot and train with it. Whether it be a pistol, rifle, shotgun or PCC just be proficient with it. They will all over penetrate so know what’s behind your target and use angles to avoid shooting in a direction you don’t want your rounds going into.
A semi auto 12 gauge is definitely a good home defense weapon. Even with bird shot.
You’re probably not gonna put somebody down with birdshot… Just saying. The 590 Shockwave I’ve got set up with a turkey choke will undoubtedly blow your face literally off, but it ain’t gonna drop you in your tracks.
@@manderson7173 up close birdshot will blow a HUGE hole in you. From 20 or 30ft I bet I can take your head off with it
Gunblast Channel shoots birdshot through denim, meat and bone.
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@@manderson7173 a well placed birdshot within 20 feet is fucking you up.
@@manderson7173 and if your FACE is blown off, you're definitely dropping to your knees.
Any firearm is better than no firearm
Skid marks? We’re fat? Can’t hit anything? My man is out swinging this Christmas Eve. God Bless sir
Not sure why they don't, but every one of these discussions should start with: Why a "fill in the blank" sucks for MY home defense needs and end with: YMMV
Maybe it's an age thing...but the older I get the more I realize there just ain't no absolutes in life-firearms and home defense included. Where you live, who you live with, physical ability, skill set, living conditions, etc. etc. etc.
Appreciate the 3 of 7 Project and wish Chad and Family a most Merry Christmas and a happy, safe, and healthy New Year.
'nuff said
There’s been people who have used a shotgun to take a head shot in a hostage situation, but it wasn’t from a sawed off shotgun and they used federal flight ammunition. An example is the guy who shot Panteras Dime Bag Darrel on stage, he then took a hostage and the police shot him in the face with double 00 or 000 buck shot.
Right, this happened in San Diego where a police officer responded to a guy taking his girlfriend hostage and the cop blew his head off within a few yards. ruclips.net/video/p4BmhdP4ZWw/видео.html&ab_channel=ActiveSelfProtection
RIP Dime!
@@phil7574 yeah man, I didn’t know him personally but he seamed like a very cool person. And a exceptional guitar player / shredder!
- I was supposed to be at that show, it was the Alrosa. But I went to a different show at the Newport without telling anyone. Nothing but panicked phone calls happened. I didn't have a phone at the time, or hear what happened for a few days. They panicked, and were calling hospitals. Now that I have a phone, I drop a text with a location.
Federal Flite Control wads are amazing. I'm getting a single large hole at 15 yards. On a target with no hostage, I have confidence in putting 8 to 9 pellets out of 9 on the torso at 25 to 30 yards. With a hostage, I'm 15 yards is my limit.
I carried a Remington 870 12 gauge shotgun while attached to a Marine Corps Tactical Recovery of Aircraft Personnel. Love the 870. A bad guy hearing you rack a shotgun will surely make him crap his pants. I have a Mossberg 20 gauge shotgun for home defense. 20 gauge will get it done less kick. Backup Glock 27 on hand as well.
Don't do the racking thing! It's a delusion. Always have one in the chamber bud. You know this...
Why is someone confronting the bad guy and doesn’t have a round ready to go? The racking thing is hysterical.
@@asmith7876 lol you are totally correct ..only nerds and wannabe hard asses think racking a shotgun to scare someone actually works ... not to mention almost every real operator on RUclips has debunked this hysterical myth.
@@pussbust7073 Yeah racking is a very bad idea. Not only will the perp no where you are located or a very good idea where. It also announces what type of weapon you are using. It's basically saying hey shoot over here.
00buck for moving targets and slugs for stationary and disabling vehicles
I like the Clint Smith philosophy on shottys
Shot gun is the ideal home defense with 00 buck. 9 32 caliber pellets moving down range and the same velocity of a 9mm
When I was younger and could see I had no problems shooting dad's S&W 686. Fast forward 20 years and I bought my Springfield XD45 and fought accuracy for years, thought maybe I just couldn't see or maybe I just couldn't shoot a handgun. Enter the 1911 platform, it changed everything for me! I could shoot again, restored my confidence! I personally feel that most people can't shoot pistol because #1they don't shoot enough and #2 the chosen handgun is not right for them! For me it turns out that double action striker fired option was not right however a good single action trigger made a huge difference! If you're having issues don't give up, you may just need to try something a little different. Go shoot as often as possible, still more fun than sitting on the couch!
Like you always say. Train on the weapon and learn the ins and outs of it / get better. There’s more than just buck shot.
Does anyone know why he skipped over shooting the shotgun?
He talks about how he's not going to hit anything past "10 paces" and then just skips over it.
In my opinion shotguns are somewhat limited and specialized but not for dummies. The guy I worked most with in Lat/Am was with 25th ID in Vietnem and a soldier on his lrrp always carried a shotgun and never fired. He caught hell for it until one day their position was over run and Ole dude went to work with that shot gun. They never gave him hell again. When he and I worked together, he alway carried a shotgun and 45 and I had my car15 and 38 combat revolver. My shotgun is next to my 45 every night incase I have to go outside.
Sorry but i must disagree to the fullest extent!!! I love your videos and respect what you did for a living and not knocking your experience in any way shape or form. My go to home defense that lives next to my bed loaded at all times is a Mossberg 500 20g. with a rifled barrel and aftermarket pic rails for a red dot and weapon light loaded with sabot hollow point slugs and a stock sleeve with 5 extra shells in it. I also have a battle belt with a pad on it and a quick connect cobra buckle hanging on the wall with a Glock17mos with an RMR and a X300U light in the holster and 2 extra mags in pouches and a tourniquet that i can jump out of bed and throw on in less than 5 seconds but thats strictly a backup. I want the intruder to go down when i shoot and yes i can 100% point shoot with it no problem. Yes there is a lil over penetration but not nearly as much as a rifle and nowhere near as loud even indoors. I def agree a PCC would be the nxt best option i have a few of them and love them. It is prolly a lot of peoples go to in this scenario. This setup is best for me personally for indoors or even if i have to take it outside as well. Too each there own as long as your armed and trained is all that matters💯
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Something is wrong with a shotgun that won't hold a slug sized pattern at 10 "steps"
I love the perfect demonstration of why you DON’T want an optic on your home defense firearms. Just perfect. 😁
I mean most of them have that auto turn on feature when it senses movement. My romeo5 has it and that's a budget one. So I'd imagine 500 dollar ones have to have it.
@@nukiesduke6868 Batteries die. Batteries corrode. I will take iron sights all day for a close-in defense weapon. Even my 63 year old eyes can still hit easily at 10 yards with iron sights.
@@southernpartisan1772 If I didn’t shoot very well with iron sights, I might consider one, but I’ve never had an issue with iron sights. They are fast, reliable, and durable. If I needed an aid, I would choose a laser first.
Shake awake 😃
@@LTVoyager that's why you rotate your batteries frequently to avoid those problems. Chance favors the prepared mind...;)
If I obeyed Sleepy Joe and fired 2 blasts up in the air from my front porch, I have a good feeling, I’d be in cuffs and on my way to a cell
Yep
Chadd,
First and foremost merry Christmas and God's peace to you and yours! For those who read this post I must make it clear that I'm using my wives account to address this important subject matter as I'm breaking my general rule as not to comment on matters on social media and don't have an account. I worked for 36 yrs for a city municipality as an LEO. I served for over 16 yrs on a SWAT team and was also a firearms instructor. Granted I don't have the combat experience that Chadd has but did survive a few dust ups one of which involved the use of a Smith and Wesson mdl 3000 12 ga. This weapon is almost the exact clone of a Rem. 870 (pump gun). The engagement took place 08/05/1993 at 1640 hrs. in a very busy area of town. Civilians in the background and all around the area where the shot was taken. The distance was 8 yds. and the ammo was old school Federal 00 buckshot. Note in previous training we/I practiced surgical shots with the shotgun-yes read that again. Open choke surgical shots as every cruiser was equipped at that time (mandatory) with a 12 gauge. We used the shotgun for many years as the weapon of choice for the point man for high risk warrant service on the team as well and at least two of these weapons were cut down 870's that resembled something a biker 1% would use or actually what Remington and Mossberg now offer. I mention this as it relates to the use of this type of weapon for close quarters work which is exactly what takes place inside a residence. I was taught to extend both arms and point shoot this weapon and was surprised at how fast and accurate this system was/is. Remember patterns are about 1 inch per yard. This was before Federal came out with the controlled flite wad in 00 which is superior and something everyone with a shotgun should have for personal defense rounds. OK the 12 ga used 8/5/93 had a fixed wood standard butt stock, no sights; I placed part of the barrel off target into the brick wall that the decedent was using as cover and support for his carbine, knowing that the pellets that hit the wall would travel down it and strike the decedent. Note there were civilians in vehicles behind the decedent who was moments before getting ready to engage them. All of the pellets fired struck the decedent...solid, no pass through's from fringe hits. I could account for each pellet which at times still blows my mind as even as writing or reflecting on this l recall seeing the pellets impact. The decedent was leaning into his position of cover with the muzzle of his weapon pointed at me and leaning into it with his left foot forward and right foot back. I had been moving fast left to right to avoid his tracking me but ran out of room (brick wall) and took the shot. Two of the pellets broke bones in his left arm and continued into his left chest, remaining 6 went thru his upper thoracic cavity-about an 8 inch pattern. The decedent dropped his weapon and turned almost 180 degrees, fell to the ground with his feet and buttocks towards me. He did not get a shot off. The muzzle of his weapon (chambered in 7.62x39mm) fell muzzle pointing directly at me however as he lay his hands were over 2 feet from the weapon.
Of course I know that I'm still in this world as a direct result from the Grace of God. I should have been lying on that sidewalk as well. Point; at close range I can't think of a better weapons choice. I could have resolved the situation with a handgun but how many shots would the decedent got off? Body armor I was wearing at the time would have assisted the 7.62 round in upsetting and tumbling after it struck and penetrated the vest...I had the option of taking the time to unlock the trunk to access a HK 33 or an MP5 but the shotgun was upfront in the rack and while driving hs I loaded it up and got ready for the engagement (time was crucial).
Yes one can surgically shoot with a shotgun. Practice holding partially off the target with the barrel on hostage type shots. For open or cylinder chokes with old style buck shot rounds 1" per yard is the general rule for pattern. With the same choke and the newer generation (Federal Controlled Flight Wad) rounds make the shotgun a whole different animal. Lot's of options for rounds/projectiles as well make the shotgun very useful, slug, buck, steelshot, lead, ect with varying charges and projectile size.
A few yrs back I picked up one of those firearms that's not a pistol or long gun in the Mossberg version and added a brace. I hadn't retired quite yet and went to the range with it and mooched some Federal Controlled Flight wad 00. At 15 yds I could not believe how tight the groups were. Think about how large your avg. hallway or room is and keep this in mind when practicing with your shotgun and then ask yourself will a shotgun work? For me the answer is obvious. (Mine is actually 3 feet away while I write this).
Take care,
Jeff
PS Chadd I do enjoy your posts and point of view.
Interesting write up. Thanks for sharing
I can assure you that the bigger target will not be the intruder, it’ll be the hostage. The intruder will use the hostage as a shield. Some navy seal you are. Be better.
"Lot of y'all have bad hearts cuz your fat". I sincerely appreciate the brutal honesty so many of us men need to hear. Working physical fitness is so overlooked and underrated. Top notch content. Started in 2018 and have not stopped working on this aspect since.
I personally know of skinny ,wormy looking vegans dropping dead from heart attacks while jogging. When it's your time to die it's your time period. Full stop.
@@vittoriovuocolo2438 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Intermittent fasting some cardio and weights...intermittent like 1100am-7pm...I see huge hogs at the gym Id love to tell them thats what keeps the weight of me...the Gym helps secondarily.They works their ass off and dont seem to lose much...I love intermittent fast.
@@wirelessone2986 definitely agree
Never owned a scale never been on a diet . Don’t eat junk food avoid sugar High school wt 180 35 years post 185 lb
Hey, I must admit I came here for the running but quickly got hooked on your content and attitude.
I'm in the UK and I am one of the few folks who are tooled up.
Im running a 308 scout rifle that I am licensed to own for deer management. Fair few of us with a FAC (fire arms cert)
It would be awesome to see a presentation on how we should be training with a bolt gun for cqb scenarios.
Thanks for such brilliant vids, very jealous of the kit you lads have over the pond, glocks are only for the movies for us! Happy Christmas.
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I'm from the UK to and love Chad's content but there's a reason we don't have guns in the UK
To be frank other than in mateys situation above we just don't need them and we don't really fear for our lives or our liberty being taken every day.
Owning guys doesn't make you free haha
@@jgs1994 Guns worked pretty well for us in 1776 and 1812, same with bailing your arses out in WW1/2, just saying. Freedom in the U.K has been gone for years now, so we'll keep our guns handy since our government is working on eroding ours every day. The sun set on your country's empire long ago.
As far as I'm concerned you're absolutely right about handgun accuracy, I simulated a room clearing scenario in my backyard range with literally no stress involved and I found that my shots were on target however consistently much lower than I would have expected. I guess I was so Target focused that I was looking over my sights obviously.
I live in Commiefornia so my options were limited but I just got my Palmetto State Armory 9mm PCC upper and used one of my AR lowers with a mag well insert with a Swampfox Prism site. They have a great mil/first responder discount and solid optics from what I’ve researched. Looking forward to trying it this weekend. Thanks for the video.
He picks and obscure scenario to say a shotgun isn't good for home defense across the board. That seems less like a home defense situation and something more for a police officer to worry about
Why do I feel this is a troll and/or tongue in cheek?
It’s not. This is just how he talks lol
Have you considered the relative 30 foot accuracy and stopping power of hollow point magnum slugs?
That's what I have too brotha , magnum hollow point slugs in a reliable semi auto 12gauge. Among other goodys!! But u can't go wrong with 12ga.
The only concern there is overpenetration. Like 1600 fps slug will keep on trucking through walls, cars, trucks, etc.
You crack me up. Not because I disagree with you, but because I agree with you and love your delivery.
A lot of different guys on the gun Chanel’s snub their noses at the PCC’s. They seem to view them as a joke, a toy, a novelty or simply good for training. In reality, they’re light, short and maneuverable.
My go to is my Extar EP9. I’m not that great of a shot, but when I’m done shooting the target looks like I shot it point blank with a shotgun.
Now… riots in the street, social chaos… I’m breaking out the AR. At that point, collateral damage is out the window.
If a shotgun is the only gun you own it definitely can save your life in a home defense situation.
How about a Barrett 50cal for home self defense???
Just get you a Ma Deuce 😂🤣
What is overpenetration?
Excessive penetration or overpenetration occurs when a bullet passes through its intended target and out of the other side, with enough residual kinetic energy to continue flying as a stray projectile and risk causing unintended collateral damage to objects or persons beyond.
@@ronaldspins Great definition.
Go through the bad guys, a couple houses a vehicle or two as well, what could go wrong?
I only use RPGs and flamethrowers for home defense
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Black market special from Ukraine? U.S. made?
Just keep in mind the activation distance.
"Skidmarks" lololololololol man you had me going in the beginning of this video. I think it's some of your best work yet. Keepin it real, party on!
Agreed on handgun proficiency, have Ruger 9mm carbine plus Glock; can’t imagine discharging any larger inside without hearing protection. PCC is great, waiting on SBR litigation to get sorted out.
Your comments concerning handgun proficiency and weekly training are spot on. I once was able to train weekly at a local private dirt pit. That facility is no longer an option. Due to my inability to maintain my training, I no longer CCW. I’ve gone grey and stay out of public places. Not the best plan, I know.
Dry fire
@@maximusblueline8546 I do, but it dang sure ain’t as much fun, is it? Thank you for the thought.
The "grey man" is a good approach. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Nothing better than being honest with yourself. Personally, I can now go up to 200 yds IN THE BACK YARD : )
(actually, the 200 yd. distance is safe for rimfire only, since the target is on a small, dining table-sized island... "Gator Island", I call it... in the "swamp", but I can do centerfire out to 100... just completed a massive oak backstop rehab, in fact : )
If someone is being held hostage in your own home,you have lost the home defense situation. Say hello to my favorite 1911. I doubt anyone breaking in will get past the old Thunder Ranch.
I put a lot of value in your input, and follow you diligently. You can specify the difference between home, defense, and a hostage situation. I’ll stick with my semi 12 gauge and my nine mill but appreciate your honesty.
The main advantage with a shotgun is that you don't need to make precision shots. Yeah, if a bad guy has one of your kids has a hostage your screwed, but honestly you're more likely to die by a meteor. Yeah if you are a SEAL or Delta who goes on hostage rescue missions, but most people don't rescue hostages. I agree a stockless shotgun sucks for home self defense though. Pistols suck for home self defense. They are many cases of men taking 5 or more shots from a pistol and keep fighting.
Love your handle/name. I disagree. I believe you need more practice with your shotgun. Also some federal flight control wads with buck. Give em a try. Shoot at 5, 10, 15, 20, yards. See what happens to your group and tell me what you can and can't do with it.
How much do you anticipate the spread opening up at home defense distances? Because it’s not even gonna be 6 inches wide
The main advantage with a shotgun is stopping power. Period.
Other tools are OK for different reasons, but don't compare in this one area.
Federal Flight Control will maintain a very tight pattern at SD/HD ranges. It's the 'gold standard' LE round. It maintains a tight enough pattern, that it's still effective up to 50-yards.
If you breach a home invader with buck shot
This video made me recall a breaching/pistol grip shotgun shooting memory. Two of my fellow soldier were shooting one at the range when we were just having downtime fun. One of the officers decided that he would educate us on how to properly aim the shotgun that did not have a stock. He put the shotgun up put it up to his face and pressing the trigger created a memory of the occasion on his face.
I still love my Tavor TS12 semiautomatic shotgun! I want to come down there and train. I consider myself to be above the average Joe. I was originally trained by a SWAT member and I still train with competition shooters. Fun hobby for me. I use a Glock 34 for competition training. Love it! Would love to train with a SEAl.
Good information! The shotty is a good home defense weapon if there's nothing else. For a season, I could only afford a break barrel and it gave me the confidence I needed until I could upgrade to the current pcc from psa. I amassed a variety of ammo which is the best feature of owning a shotty.
I shoot 200rds a week minimum. I'm an active professional in the industry. Still carry a Shockwave on duty to supplement my SBR. I've had run-ins with criminals on the streets in body armor. Pistol won't work too well, rifle won't work too well. A 3/4 oz slug seems to be the better stopper when hitting steel. Headshots are preferable, but not always achievable.
Most blanket statements are steeped with fallacy. Every situation is unique, as many people will realize the 'impact' of the shotgun (pun intended). Slugs are quite accurate within shorter ranges, as the shotgun is so versatile. Also, if one is intimidated by 12 gauge, then we also possess 20 gauge and .410 calibers of which to consider.
Carlie from Garand Thumb sums it up:
"Shotguns are good for duck hunters, door kickers and sad musicians."
Didn't show yourself shooting the shotgun. Didn't spread much at that distance, did it?
Thanks for this video. Just learning what tool would be best for this scenario and you settled it for me. Well done, well thought out. Thank you!
Man buys a SHockwave and says shotguns are terrible for home defense.
No they're not. You just got conned into buying a terrible shotgun.
If a shotgun sucks you don’t know how to run one .
I hear that...I can hit a paper plate size target at 50 yards with a hollow point slug with my Mossberg 590 with ghost ring sights.
And it's 8+1 capacity.
lol you vs a navy seal, I think i know who to trust on this one.
@@nattygains4104 "nattygains" lol
Fun video chad, thanks for your input. I prefer to use flashbangs and tomahawks myself but may look into switching to a carbine.
Ax or missile?
@Victor Boshnyak Axe.
Need some smoke grenades too so you can get in close to scalp the sorry s.o.b. too lol
I've got a PCC on my wish list. Merry Christmas to the entire 3 of 7 crew!
So, the primary protest seems to be that a shotgun isn't good if a hostage situation is possible. If that situation is never going to happen say, for someone who lives alone, I think double-ought buck is a good choice.
A PCC has been high on my list for a couple years. Been really considering a CMMG Banshee, but look forward to your review of the Ruger.
The Banahee is nice! Cant go wrong with the CMMG
Don’t sleep on the CZ Scorpion, either. I have one of the s2 series with hollow points and can’t recommend it enough. It works for soft-targets and anytime I take new shooters out, women, or children; the Scorpion (along with my .22 lever action) are always the crowd favorite. Slap a light on it and a modesty priced red dot and you have a fine home defense set up. 30 rounds magazines are available and you don’t have the major concern of over penetration. I run some low recoil loads through mine and the missus loves it. CZ even released their new s3 series and with their newer AR style controls, it’s even more intuitive. The price point made more sense to me than the other options such as Banshee or MPX; and the ergonomics and reliability surpassed the Ruger from from the sources I gathered. Happy hunting with whatever you choose. Stay vigilant, stay safe!
Edit: I enjoy the Holosun red dots for more 9mm’s; their ridiculous battery life and shake-awake features make them ideal and economical for the “bump-in-the-night” situations.
I love my 9mm Banshee. It is a blast to shoot and with hollow points an excellent home defense weapon. I also like my 930 tactical with buckshot for the same purpose outside of a hostage situation.
Foxtrot Mike makes a great PCC at a fair price!
@@ckoritko concur on the CZ. Great little PCC. My wife loves it.
I was a CSI in Phoenix. 9mm ball will go through 2 or 3 studs before it stops... it'll eat through a whole house if it only hits drywall. Point is don't miss the bag of water that slows down hollowpoints. Use the PCC.
I guess no one has told the guy they actually make hollowpoint (softpoint as well) ammo for the .223, the round he referred to as that 'big ole bullet'. Yeah, that .22 caliber one lol. I totally agree with him on shotguns being worst choice for HD, at least for him. Did you see him struggle with the slide release? Tier 1 for sure
@@SouthernShodan just got my order in for some 223 HPBT 55g
Several agencies have found that 9mm tends to over penetrate more than 5.56. I thought this was pretty well known but I guess word hasn't gotten out yet. It's one of the biggest reasons most tactical teams dropped their MP5s for AR platforms.
@@joesavoca5959 oh I never heard that actually
@@joesavoca5959 bingo!
Excellent points and video.i recently had 2 situations at my home no real threat but one was an animal and the other was a delivery driver. I can tell you all honestly with my adrenaline all jacked up it was a total different feeling and a very good learning experience as well.
What the heck happened eith the delivery driver?Im all ears
Chadd obviously has forgotten more about gunfights than I will ever learn but the premise of his argument against shotguns is that a shotgun is ineffective in a hostage scenario.
In my situation they would have to bring a hostage with them ( not likely) so an intruder at my place will be meeting buck, slug, buck, slug, buck, slug, buck, slug and anything moving after that will be addressed with the 9mm
I'm a little confused.....In all the LE based hostage rescue training I've been through, the hostage is always in front of the bad guy with a head shot being taken over the right or left shoulder. I could consistently make the shot at 10 yards with a Benelli Super 90 and 00 buck reduced recoil. Anything further out would definitely require a pistol/carbine/rifle though.
When the targets came into camera view, wait, who's the bad and good guy! Was thinking he's shooting the good guy all day long. Guess I am just another dummy. 😎
I could be the dummy as well! I have before!
Good video. Unfortunately a shotgun may be your only choice when the government and atf take everything else away from you. Just saying.
Facts
The cattle cars show up shortly after that so it is a moot point.
I am not going to the concentration camp, I read Haralan Popov's biography and am familiar with the history of the Holocaust.
@@jackjeffery1536 the history of the results of every gun confiscation in the 20th century. Keep your powder dry and your knives sharp. May we not need them.
MERRY CHRISTMAS and a BLESSED NEW YEAR to you and yours!
@@charlesmckinley29 The Aquariums of pyongyang is another good one but the Bible is the best for your soul. Merry Christmas to you too. Everyone needs to watch Eisenhower's Documentary on the Holocaust keeping in mind guns were taken away from the Jews before all rights and then life was extinguished. All by their own government, I am Native American and recognize parallels too, The U.S. government perpetrated the largest mass shootings of women and children in history. I remember that when they talk about taking guns away from law abiding citizens. History is important.
I am sure he is just trying to ruffle feathers over the shotgun.
My German shepherds work in the dark and don’t over penetrate walls, they will also remove flesh.
For someone who is not worried about a hostage and does not train then a shotgun is the beat option. Would i give my 84yr old mom a glock or carbine for home defense? No, a shotgun? Yep sure as hell would! That said you cannot make blanket statements to cover all situations.
Hell no I'm not giving my 90 yr old grandma a 12 ga w 3 1/2 mag's. But I absolutely would give her a PCC. Light recoil and insanely accurate. A 12 ga w 3 1/2 mags would probably dislocate her shoulder.
@@funkfarmer7125 think your going a bit overboard there. 12ga w/3.5 mags? Why not say a 10 ga with 3.5 TT shot?? There are plenty of other options to include shortly shells, 410, 20ga light recoil. All great options.
I really appreciate the way you simplify things so well. Putting a pistol cal carbine on the list for New Year's resolution....
Sincerely,
Fat Guy with shotgun
“Y’all got bad hearts cuz you fat “ so great. Love the truth bombs Semper fi