As an older archer its interesting to me how the longer bows are considered target bows which has really never changed. I remember taking a 37" Darton bow to the woods with a 11" front stabilizer and using it for hunting and 3d. Its good to see companies still catering to that type of archer. I wouldnt hesitate taking this bow hunting and using it for target. I like a 7" brace height as well and there simple tuning system. I remember calling Frank the Darton bow mechanic to get specs on cable twisting to get perfect tuning.Ahh the good ole days.
I ordered one from my local dealer in Australia last Monday, and I can’t wait for it to get here they had what I wanted in stock so it should only take a few days for freight.
Seems like a great all around bow that would be equally at home at a 3D shoot, indoor shoot, or hunting out west. I wish the bigger manufacturers put as much emphasis on tunability as Elite but it’s almost like they have a silent agreement with the pro shops to keep tuning needing a bow press, top hats, spacers, etc.
What’s the rope around your pointer finger and thumb while you are shooting ? Also just got my Stan onnex In from y’all that sucker is bad to the bone thanks Lancaster yall rock
@@AussieArcher1234 The sling is to prevent the bow from falling from your hand, not for prevent torque. In target the orthodox way to grip the riser is to allow the throat of the grip to freely rest between your thumb and your index finger with the other three fingers slanted and minimal contact with the grip, "floating". Since the arm which wileds the bow is "pushing" forward and your releasing arm exerts force backwards when the string is released the bow tends to move forward (also, the stabilizers pulls down). In recurve olympics the archers usually let the bow to "roll" forward, but that is uncommon in compounds. In hunting usually you use a full grip on the riser.
@@AussieArcher1234 Nah, you said that the finger sling reduces torque, but the only thing that does is to catch the bow and prevent it from fall after the release. I explained the difference to help unaware readers which would think based on your words that the sling itself has any effect on preventing torque: if you use a sling but still grip the riser the same way the sling is useless. Thanx and bye.
Archery feels like it’s at that point in development where everyone has their own complicated and convoluted solutions to the same couple features/problems and after a few years everyone will adopt the same basic design with a different name and claim theirs is the best but really they’ll all be pretty much the same in a different colour.
Exactly. Physics have limited how fast bows can be used safely. Now it’s all about “innovation.” Which is still cool tho. From a hunter’s point of view. I still see fellow hunters using twenty year old bows and bringing down large game mammals. It’s awesome to see.
@@Ennis09 Sorry, I'm a beginner - would you mind explaining why you can't use the hunting bow for target shooting? Isnt it essential for a hunting bow to be precise at range?
@@theunheardprophet4315 Hunting - higher let-off (75% up to 90%) shorter ATA (to be more compact) made to be more compact, less weight and less accessories - power and speed over precision, can go up to 80 pounds and over. Target bows - bigger ATA for stability, usually more sockets for accessories, lower let-off (usually 65% to 75%) for more consistent and precise shot. In short - hunting bows more compact and power over precision, target bows more customisable and precision over power. To kill a moose you need to hit huge lungs area but you need to crack ribs first. And to score a 600 you need to shoot 10 (size of a coin at 20 yds) 60 times in a row.
@@theunheardprophet4315 Also in most international competition you can not use a bow over 60#, you'd be disqualified. And with lower poundage you CAN use hunting bow but how high will you score compared to target bow?
I bought and owned and then sold over 40 bows along the years, "thanks eBay", I never had a bow that was bad, complicated maybe but never bad, however, the Traverse is what was the most accurate for me with minimal tuning, I still have TRX 40, TRX 7, VXR 31.5, V3 and I still go for the Traverse more!, I will check out this Verdict once it shows used on eBay, it does look interesting!
@@hawaiiangunner i can't afford 1600 for a bow. I remember buying a hoyt for 350 bucks back in the day and the speed was right around 300 fps which is fast enough to kill a deer with.
You can only reach those speeds if you shoot an arrow in a drop away rest with no fletchets and a Arrow shaft so light you are on the verge of dry firing your bow. The bow also has to be set at the very heaviest draw weight and longest length, lowest number let off. And the most important part a very very out of spec chronograph. You can expect to be shooting somewhere in the 290 to 300 fps area in the real world
Did anyone notice the micro adjustable cable stops? SET technology? These are Elite technologies that no one else has. Every bow since the recurve has a “limb”. PSE had 9” limbs in 2006 with a wide platform… limbs are limbs. Aluminum risers are risers. Pay attention to the ability to make this bow “fit” your specific shooting needs. All without a bow press needed, which is something you can’t do with a Mathews or a Prime.
@@joninisley6275 awesome! Thanks! It’s got some pretty impressive features if you ask me. I’m a tinkering fool and with this bow it’s the easiest it’s ever been to be totally satisfied with your set up.
@@nathanbrooks4324 All true statements! I'll tell ya, I'm a PSE guy and have been for a long time. But, shooting the Verdict at the trailer in Cullman was pretty eye-opening...even for the hack of a shooter I am. The one you guys had set up with the 75% mods was somethin' else.
As an older archer its interesting to me how the longer bows are considered target bows which has really never changed. I remember taking a 37" Darton bow to the woods with a 11" front stabilizer and using it for hunting and 3d. Its good to see companies still catering to that type of archer. I wouldnt hesitate taking this bow hunting and using it for target. I like a 7" brace height as well and there simple tuning system. I remember calling Frank the Darton bow mechanic to get specs on cable twisting to get perfect tuning.Ahh the good ole days.
Looks like a sweet bow Elite, wish you had a target color to show off.
They did come out with new colors
Great review PJ. Makes me want to buy it.
I love those cams
TOTAL CUSTOMIZATION! WOW
I would like to buy this Verdict, but dont know will it can be deliver to VietNam?
I ordered one from my local dealer in Australia last Monday, and I can’t wait for it to get here they had what I wanted in stock so it should only take a few days for freight.
Are the arrow speed staying about the same?
thoughts on it for finger shooting? in stock or long wait?
Hi there. I have an elite enkore. I love how the let off is more adjustable in this model. Can any of the new features be fitted to the enkore.
Good bow for hunting👍🏻
Awesome review
What's the concensus one whose left-right adjustability is the best, Elite or Bowtec?
Bowtech. Better to shift the cam than the limbs.
@@edwardlouie why it’s better to shift the cams? I would appreciate any links or information on this.
Both are very good, the Elite is more sturdy but affects the whole limbs, the Bowtech just adjust the cams but is mechanically more complex.
Seems like a great all around bow that would be equally at home at a 3D shoot, indoor shoot, or hunting out west. I wish the bigger manufacturers put as much emphasis on tunability as Elite but it’s almost like they have a silent agreement with the pro shops to keep tuning needing a bow press, top hats, spacers, etc.
Good job as always in explaining the features. I have one on order.
What’s the rope around your pointer finger and thumb while you are shooting ? Also just got my Stan onnex In from y’all that sucker is bad to the bone thanks Lancaster yall rock
It's called a finger sling
Finger sling to help stop hand created torque .You see it used more on recurve , but it works on Compound as well.
@@AussieArcher1234 The sling is to prevent the bow from falling from your hand, not for prevent torque. In target the orthodox way to grip the riser is to allow the throat of the grip to freely rest between your thumb and your index finger with the other three fingers slanted and minimal contact with the grip, "floating". Since the arm which wileds the bow is "pushing" forward and your releasing arm exerts force backwards when the string is released the bow tends to move forward (also, the stabilizers pulls down). In recurve olympics the archers usually let the bow to "roll" forward, but that is uncommon in compounds. In hunting usually you use a full grip on the riser.
@@Buran01 Yeah thats what I said NUMB NUTS .. Now fk off and mind your own fking Business . I know how to shoot DH.
@@AussieArcher1234 Nah, you said that the finger sling reduces torque, but the only thing that does is to catch the bow and prevent it from fall after the release. I explained the difference to help unaware readers which would think based on your words that the sling itself has any effect on preventing torque: if you use a sling but still grip the riser the same way the sling is useless. Thanx and bye.
Thanks for the review
I hope they have some nice anodized risers. I'm guessing they'll have an XL model next year at 39 in.
Good review!!👍🏻
Looks like a great bow!
Price please thanks
1799
I wonder what the cost is the way it’s set up and the bow cost.
~$3,000 to build a brand new, flagship target bow
HERMOSO EQUIPO !! EXCELENTE LANCASTER
welllll looks like ill be getting this instead of rezult!! :)
A bow with 37 ATA and the DL is still too short what a shame but why a short DL?? It’s a nice looking bow and a great review PJ
31 is short?
@@Syq0tic 31 is short I need 32 to 33
You have the Highline and the Atlas, and surely Bowtech will replace the BT Mag with a long draw model this year...
Archery feels like it’s at that point in development where everyone has their own complicated and convoluted solutions to the same couple features/problems and after a few years everyone will adopt the same basic design with a different name and claim theirs is the best but really they’ll all be pretty much the same in a different colour.
Yea for sure
Elite took alot from prime on this one
Like when savage introduced the accu-trigger and accu-block stocks and the entire industry followed.
I think we’re already there!
Exactly. Physics have limited how fast bows can be used safely. Now it’s all about “innovation.” Which is still cool tho. From a hunter’s point of view. I still see fellow hunters using twenty year old bows and bringing down large game mammals. It’s awesome to see.
@@cozycare1655 ya technically bows have reached they’re peak now it’s all the same across the board
How much are they
1600 dollars plus,
@@jaymorris3468 okay thank you
@@jamiehess6512 your welcome.
Hello I didn't get a answer about my prize
You mean not much reflex in the riser
Man, I been wanting to dump my v3x 33 for a target bow. I wonder how this holds compared to my 33
Why are you dumping it?
@@theunheardprophet4315 I only target shoot and do 3d only hunt 10% of the time
@@Ennis09 Sorry, I'm a beginner - would you mind explaining why you can't use the hunting bow for target shooting? Isnt it essential for a hunting bow to be precise at range?
@@theunheardprophet4315 Hunting - higher let-off (75% up to 90%) shorter ATA (to be more compact) made to be more compact, less weight and less accessories - power and speed over precision, can go up to 80 pounds and over. Target bows - bigger ATA for stability, usually more sockets for accessories, lower let-off (usually 65% to 75%) for more consistent and precise shot. In short - hunting bows more compact and power over precision, target bows more customisable and precision over power. To kill a moose you need to hit huge lungs area but you need to crack ribs first. And to score a 600 you need to shoot 10 (size of a coin at 20 yds) 60 times in a row.
@@theunheardprophet4315 Also in most international competition you can not use a bow over 60#, you'd be disqualified. And with lower poundage you CAN use hunting bow but how high will you score compared to target bow?
I bought and owned and then sold over 40 bows along the years, "thanks eBay", I never had a bow that was bad, complicated maybe but never bad, however, the Traverse is what was the most accurate for me with minimal tuning, I still have TRX 40, TRX 7, VXR 31.5, V3 and I still go for the Traverse more!, I will check out this Verdict once it shows used on eBay, it does look interesting!
Hi. Did you get one în hand and shoot? Few people complain about those very slim cam.
Looks like trx at first glance
Hmm new hunting bow
Can we talk about lowering shipping cost from Lancaster Archery? 🤔
Shipping over $99 is always free.
@@ViCtOrZ803 lol true, but if you needed to buy something small it's like 20+ bucks
@@michaelb2076 well then buy a how with your small purchase🤷
@@cfong_sports394 *bow?
@@michaelb2076 yes😐
2023 Jeeze it’s only mid 2022 lol
So every target bow reviewed here is super steady so they all are performing the same 😂😂 great marketing
At $1700 to $1900 these flagship bows all better be super good.
Who’s the person mouthing in the background? Has no clue she’s ruining the video.
Bows are gonna get so expensive nobody is gonna be able to afford to buy 1. Their there now with the prices.
Make more money
100% correct. 1600 is a lot of money. The question is will this year's Bow shoot $1,600 better than last year's bow?
@@hawaiiangunner hell no
@@scottkaercher1733 👊
@@hawaiiangunner i can't afford 1600 for a bow. I remember buying a hoyt for 350 bucks back in the day and the speed was right around 300 fps which is fast enough to kill a deer with.
Some one send me one !
Shoot it through a chrono and prove the speed claims...I bet you can't.
It's a target bow.
@@PoeOutdoors What, you can't shoot a target bow through a chrono?
You can only reach those speeds if you shoot an arrow in a drop away rest with no fletchets and a Arrow shaft so light you are on the verge of dry firing your bow. The bow also has to be set at the very heaviest draw weight and longest length, lowest number let off. And the most important part a very very out of spec chronograph. You can expect to be shooting somewhere in the 290 to 300 fps area in the real world
Looks like they're copying some of Mathews riser/limb designs/geometry....
Prime did this before Mathews does that mean Mathews is copying prime????
Did anyone notice the micro adjustable cable stops? SET technology? These are Elite technologies that no one else has. Every bow since the recurve has a “limb”. PSE had 9” limbs in 2006 with a wide platform… limbs are limbs. Aluminum risers are risers. Pay attention to the ability to make this bow “fit” your specific shooting needs. All without a bow press needed, which is something you can’t do with a Mathews or a Prime.
@@nathanbrooks4324 I think I’m buying this new bow!!! Thing looks insane I’ve wanted a rezult but you guys hit it out of the park with this!!!!
@@joninisley6275 awesome! Thanks! It’s got some pretty impressive features if you ask me. I’m a tinkering fool and with this bow it’s the easiest it’s ever been to be totally satisfied with your set up.
@@nathanbrooks4324 All true statements! I'll tell ya, I'm a PSE guy and have been for a long time. But, shooting the Verdict at the trailer in Cullman was pretty eye-opening...even for the hack of a shooter I am. The one you guys had set up with the 75% mods was somethin' else.