@@edmundooliver7584 Idk man. I had a 5ft vintage longbow from maybe the 70s~. Just stringing that thing took my full weight and somebody to help keep it stable. LOL. I'm a shortbow kind of guy. I think compounds probably more accurate in general, likely more customizable, but the traditional short recurve bow has a lot to offer in simplicity and ease of understanding.
I started archery after 9 years of range shooting. I could definitely say that after the basic course made with the recurve bow i "saw the light" when i used for the first time a compound. Compounds are definitely much more like a rifle and i loved them almost immediately. They have a trigger, a real sight and when you aiming you really feel like youre holding a weapon. With the recurves i never felt anything similar.. Im sure that some people would find the traditional bows more funny to shoot, but when it comes to precision, raw power and hunting performance its a no contest.. Compounds are on another planet.
Except for silence! Traditional bows are more suited for heavier arrows in terms with of gpp , most hunters shooting 45-60lb range will use 600-900 grain arrows shooting around 140fps these are High doc arrows with 300+ grain single bevel broad heads. The range is
@@Loldjj Yeah I forgot about all those hunter-gatherers using compound bows for the past 65,000 years lmao. Don't be an idiot, man. Traditional bowhunting is very popular, and was the norm for most of human history.
Dropped compound after i realised how liberating it is to shoot instinctive. Not to mention lighter and easier to carry and maintain on the hunt. (#60)
i already know basically everything you just said, but it's so pleasing hear you talk, sitting in my chair, half a smile, nodding to everything you said.
Awesome video for a beginner like me without even a bow. My 8yo daughter has been asking to lean for a while and this is a big help for bringing the sport into focus.
I appreciate the snowboard/ski reference. I use it all the time when I am trying to get more friends into snow sports. I'm looking to get into archery and this video was very helpful. Thank you!
I liked compounds because of the idea of tinkering, I loved the idea of taking a bow and tuning it with a set of arrows to be spot on with accuracy! Unfortunately a lot of compound is dominated by hunting, so you have to look a little deeper in order to find target compound material... some of my favorite compound shooters include: Jesse (the freak show) Broadwater, Chris Bee, and Kris Schaff!
I started to hunt around 2015 with a cross bow by 2021 i moved to compound bow but this year im using a trad bow.. the journey been really hard and expensive but if i was going to do it over ill start with the compound bow. The crossbow teaches you a lot of bad habits in the woods that you have to unlearn when you move over to compound
I've tried both but prefer my compound bow but only because I went to compound first and really came about from using firearms in the past.... love watching your videos keep up the good work and greetings from the uk..
I've shot both styles of bow and now I just shoot a recurve. It's just me and a simple bow. If I'm in the zone, I'm hitting the target. If I'm off I know it's not the bow. I sometimes shoot with a group. Of course with 4-6 people you need to keep it interesting so low score normally buys the first round after we get done. I'm normally the only one with a traditional bow and can't compete on the longer shots at a normal walking range. I also rarely end up buying the first round because I know with a large group someone will have an equipment failure with all that high tech equipment. It doesn't take much to knock a pin sight out of alignment or have a trigger malfunction. Unless I break my bow or lose all my arrows I will at least finish the course. Yes, I carry a second used ( already stretched) string and I wear a glove so I don't have much to worry about for equipment.
You reaffirmed my belief that traditional is defiantly best for me. I basically just wanna show off and have fun at ren faires 😂 (and maybe feel a bit like Kagome or Merida lol)
accurate 70+ yards is doable with traditional, not as easy as compound sure but if easy is what you're going for than more power to you. Plus you can get sights and stabilizers for recurve too.
Who do you know of that's accurate enough to take an ethical shot on a white tail at 70 yards with a traditional bow? Without sights, stabilizers, etc..
I love shooting my recurve it is real archery. Unfortunately with all my injuries losing vision in my right eye in an explosion being the most difficult. I am having so much trouble shooting anything over 15 yards. I just have so much trouble with depth perception I believe. So I might be forced to get another compound. But I am not giving up yet.
Yeah, I get your drift, but what the best idea is for people to do is this, to train as in cross train ambidextrously left/right handed ,learn recurve and compound, it kinda covers all 4 corners, it's like everything else, it all takes time,
@@davidlinihan3626 That is highly dependent on the model. Power is going to be mainly determined by draw weight x powerstroke. Overall, it is easier to have and use a crossbow more powerful than a compound bow, but some crossbows with a short powerstroke + higher draw weight will be out-shot by compounds with longer powerstroke + lower draw weight. But the strongest crossbows with much high draw weights and decently long powerstrokes will outshoot the strongest compound bows. The Ten Point Nitro XRT crossbow for example has a 16.5-17 inch powerstroke and a draw weight of 225lbs. That will out-shoot something like the higher tier compound bows with up to a 30-31 inch powerstroke and between 80-100lbs in max draw weight (eg. the heaviest Hoyts go up to maybe 70 or 80lbs whereas the PSE Gorilla Sy was up to 100lbs).
Great video Allie. Very informative. One day when I can put in the time I want to move to traditional at least a few years to try to harvest a whitetail with it.
Just buy all the bows! ALL THE BOWS! They both have their purposes. I much prefer my recurve for small game. But love my compound for the accuracy, power, and range.
This is a helpful video! I was thinking traditional bows would be more my speed, but they didn't seem "mainstream" from what I've seen from my limited research, so I wasn't sure But you confirmed it with every point The biggest reason is compound bows do genuinely seem like weapons. Of course traditional bows were historically used as weapons too, but that's not what I'm looking for. I want to explore/emphasize the traditional art of archery. I'm not a hunter or Hawkeye lol Doesn't hurt that traditional bows are cheaper, either
Traditional all the way for me. There's no other rush quite like spot and stalking a deer to within 15 yards, and pulling off the perfect heart and lung shot with little more than a string and stick.
Damn it here I go again.... When I started shooting a trad bow it was really hard because I didn't know how to aim. But when use a compound bow is was pretty easy for me at least but I was using a Olympic style recurve bow for about a year and a half
Have both, it will all come down to personal preference. I personally prefer the power and accuracy of a compound bow. You also can hold the shot on a compound, especially if you have a 90% letoff compared to a traditional. But what I find childish is how people have to bash one or the other because it is not their preference, now that's just silly.
These days u can have the best of both. ILF has a place in barebow target & hunting. But a target recurve bow is 68" to 70" & most hunters r shooting 56" to 62". If u r not a newbie that has been bowhunting for a while & want to go trad & just want to hunt then this would be a realistic $ breakdown. A flagship bow will go for $1000-$1400. The same equivalent in trad with a ILF bow for hunting would run u $550-$700. That's riser, limbs & string. To be as ethical as possible your arrows & broadheads will run u a little more than some guys r running through their compunds. I highly suggest to start with a lower poundage limb that will be easy for u to build up your muscle memory while giving u a chance to develop strong form. After that u can go a little higher limbs with more or some carbon in them. I shoot a lower poundage/less carbon composite limb for training & hunt with a limb that has just a few more lbs. but quite a bit more carbon in it. The training limb is more forgiving & the hunting limbs pack a punch. Any road u choose don't go with too big of a boat with not enough motor so u will not be able to get the boat up to plane. 🎉
Shooting traditionally opens a world of different types of aiming and techniques not found with compound shooting. Instinctive, gap, string walking, face walking, split vision, fixed crawl are a few as well as sight pins In Olympic style. I also think Jimmy Blackmons reference technique is cool for hunters.
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I think In the long run I’m going to want to have both . But even though it’s gunna be more difficult in some ways I think I’m gonna go with a traditional to start
Great video there is alot of info ! Imho i think everyone should learn traditional first cheaper easier on your body ! When you become decent and want to continue then start with a compound bow ! But as always Allie you have great info!
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I lost 70% of macular vision in my right eye from an explosive flash in Afghanistan. Any thoughts on switching from right hand to left hand equipment? I really don't trust my aim using my right eye anymore. Can't ethically hunt with my damaged right eye.
Damn, im sorry to hear that. Thank you for your service. Yes, Im sure it would require a lot of getting used to, but in the end i think you will be happy you made the choice to switch.
Hi Rich, hope all is well. How's the archery thing going? I just read your post and I think if switching from right to left doesn't work the next best bet would be to just shoot instinctively. You can shoot a compound instinctively as well. Just get rid of all the peep and sight stuff, this way you can leave both of your eyes or the good eye open. Your brain will adjust from there. My daughter, for some reason, just could not shoot well with peeps and sights on her compound so I just removed them and she she started shooting well like she does with her traditional. The only down side is it takes years to be really good shooting instinctively
Hey Allie, Dee in Darwin Australia here. I don’t have a pro shop or an archery shop here. I’ve learned a tonne from your channel. I’ll be getting my first bow in a week and I’ve never shot one and have no one to show me, would you mind doin a little something to help a girl out?
@@OutdoorsAllie Hey have you ever been to San Juan River at the base of Navajo Dam? You need to if you haven't yet ! One of the best fly fishing the trout awesome ! I'm from New Mexico that's why I'm asking? Thanks again and Be safe . o yeah I got my recurve bow and I'm doing the damn thing! Hahaha✌
Awesome video 👌 your videos are super interesting and the image quality is awesome; what camera and lighting setup do you use? Would be awesome if you could share that knowledge with us in a video or just in the comments. Thx 🙏🏻
One thing needs to be mentioned is that Archers need to keep an open mind. Don't get locked in to one way of Archery. I have run into where there is many different Archers and styles of shooting and some are dead set to their one style and think everyone else is wrong. Some of the die fast Traditional shooters don't believe Compound bows should be allowed and than the Compound Archers think Traditional and Crossbow Archers should not be allowed. I myself believe each has their place and own one of each. Instead of fighting over this we need to be together for the big picture where the anti-hunters are there to shut all of down and Archery needs to work hand and hand with Gun Owners and Fishermen ( that includes women ). Like golfers are few and far between but own or have lots more property than us hunters have.
"With traditional bow you need to be a much closer distance for hunting." Ma'am, have you ever seen Zulu tribes and other tribes how they use bows and how accurately they shoot. As i told myself, it tepends on the archer. I was trained with a longbow, being able to shoot that accurately. Once given a compound bow, the arrow almost hit me (the archer) And a Zulu wont be able to use a compound to save his life. The power of traditional bows are immaculate. Yes, Zulu people use poison tipped arrows for hunting, but point is, they hit their shots accurately from very far distances.
I just got into archery and I’m going to Learn on traditional bow and then I’ll go to a compound and then next year go deer hunting because I’ll be debt-free
Hi, so I recently started getting into archery after going to my local range and I fell in love with it and I want to keep learning. I’ve been using the compound bow they provide, and my question is when should I consider buying my own bow (I am leaning more to buying a compound bow)
Crossbows blow compounders and trads into the water. I’ll bag tenfold the game than you guys in one season. I don’t care if you egoheads think it’s more skillful to use bows, you’ll be hungry much longer, and by that time I’ll have accomplished other things in my own time after easily filling my family’s bellies, while you guys are hiding in the bushes for 30 days, hoping a blind buck comes along for your 10 yard shot 😂😂😂😂
I feel like compound is mostly for only wanting to win medals for hitting the spider (the very center of the target) but honestly I really don’t want to do archery for winning medals. I got a expensive and powerful compound but I really wanna try recurve.
because I am deformed/handicapped a fully adjustable compound bow is "best" for me. With my compound bow, I can get a full 62.3 pound draw at my draw length of 23 inches. With my 70 pound takedown recurve, I only get 47.32 pounds at my draw length. Admittedly, my arrow velocity with either sucks. Compound bow is 190 to 195 fps with a 460 grain arrow, according to the crono. I haven't used a crono shooting the recurve, but I know it is a bunch slower.
I went to traditional archery because they are much more suited for me I have a 32 inch draw length. when I was out looking for a compound bow I could not find one that can draw up to 32 inches.
I didn't watch the whole video. But in the beginning I saw you were shooting the recurve like a compound; absolutely vertical with a stabilizer on it. I shoot a trad bow at a 45° angle, and trad bows don't need stabilizers. Made me curious about your experiences. Anyhoo, thanks for the vid
you mean she is not canting the bow? Most trad & recurve shooters don't cant the bow and most places you go to learn as a beginner teach you not to cant the bow: it's considered a form fault as it makes it harder to be consistent. But of course, if it works for you, there is nothing wrong with it. And it looks good on camera, which is why it's often done in Hollywood films & TV shows.
And I don't really "aim" when I shoot. I've got a hunter friend (compound bow)that insists I must have a visual "landmark" or point of focus when I shoot, but I don't. I just focus on what I want to hit and I can do that the way I larned to shoot, canting the bow
@@wewatchmovies4446 You have just perfectly described "instinctive" shooting. You feel the shot rather than consciously methodically aim (like when you throw a ball or stone at something). It must be very satisfying to be able to shoot that way, but I can't do that - when I try to my aim gets a lot worse. Maybe with time and a lot more practice it's something that might develop, but maybe it won't and the bow will remain something I operate rather than something that is an extension of my body.
i have a compound bow and i love it. i would also like to learn the way of a traditional bow but i am not sure if i should dose any one have some advice on if i should purchaser a tradition bow
Have you ever tried recurve olympic style? I went from it to compound after 5 years practicing, in my opinion the olympic style is more complicated, distances are bigger. The compound for me is when you just need to have fun shooting.
@@OutdoorsAllie Try it if you have rhe opportunity. I am curious to see how a person who shoots only compound will deal with the clicker and the technique. Cool videos btw, subbed :)))
Question... which is better for shooting moving targets? all the videos that I watched for moving targets were done by a traditional bows... never saw one with a compound bow! is there a reason for that?
For hunting it depends on where and how you are hunting. I live in western Washington State. Lots of dense woods. Granted my longest hunting shot would be 40 yards. That's the range I practice out to, which is why I can't beat my friends at long distance shooting on the walking ranges that go out to 80 yards. Anyway... I rarely get a 40 yard shot. When I'm deer hunting my longest shot might be 30 feet. When I'm hunting I just walk through woods looking for deer. Deer here see people all the time and don't find them a big threat. So when you find a deer it will just start walking away if you don't spook it. They're also very dumb. As they're walking away if you softly whistle at least one will stop, turn around and look for the noise. Giving you at least a good 3/4 quarter shot. You make good videos so don't stop. Bows are like cars. Some people like new, fast and flashy sports cars and some like comfortable sedans.
I know this is a really old comment but Garmin actually makes some smart sights for compound bows that are really nuts. I shoot trad but my buddy has one and it almost feels like cheating.
If compounds are better and more accurate for hunting then why dont they use them on tv shows like alone or naked and afraid,there always traditional recurves ive seen
I want to get my 13-year old daughter into archery (she's plays around now with a cheap recurve bow built for kids), but I would like her to go the route of competition and get onto a college team eventually. Is a traditional bow or compound bow more appropriate if I want to go this route with her? Thanks in advance.
That's really tough to say. I think as long as she's practicing and having fun I wouldn't sway her one way or another yet. Maybe wait a couple more years before deciding. Thanks for watching Alan!
Actually, one can pick up snowboarding with one on one instructions within two days and be able to go down most routes of the blue (easy) and red (middle) color by the end of the 3rd day. But while you can get down just fine, excellence takes time. Now, downhill skiing takes a bit longer (about 3 to 5 days, one on one instructions). It all depends on how flexible one is and what other sports have previously been practiced. Ice skating can make skiing easier as does skateboarding for snowboarding. Nordic skiing/Backcountry skiing is probably the easiest to pick up but pulling of telemark.. let's not go there. I started downhill skiing at 5, snowboarding at 14, and the last at 17. So I can reasonably say, that I'm capable of making an informed statement.
I was once a compound shooter. I got into it pretty hard. I was even making strings and cables. But I later found that traditional archery was much more enjoyable. Yes it's nice being able to hit the X every time and group arrows. But I got tired of the time it took to draw and get the pin on target as well as all the accessories you put on a compound. I just found lots of joy in the simplification and the added challenge that traditional archery offers.
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Traditional bows are more physically demanding and require better technique to shoot well.
You do realize compounds take all the bow out of the bow
@@edmundooliver7584 My points are still TRUE!!!
@@edmundooliver7584 Idk man. I had a 5ft vintage longbow from maybe the 70s~. Just stringing that thing took my full weight and somebody to help keep it stable. LOL.
I'm a shortbow kind of guy. I think compounds probably more accurate in general, likely more customizable, but the traditional short recurve bow has a lot to offer in simplicity and ease of understanding.
@@edmundooliver7584 But it still can't keep a beer cold. Think about that.
@@daggerg8451 Not really.
I started archery after 9 years of range shooting. I could definitely say that after the basic course made with the recurve bow i "saw the light" when i used for the first time a compound. Compounds are definitely much more like a rifle and i loved them almost immediately. They have a trigger, a real sight and when you aiming you really feel like youre holding a weapon. With the recurves i never felt anything similar.. Im sure that some people would find the traditional bows more funny to shoot, but when it comes to precision, raw power and hunting performance its a no contest.. Compounds are on another planet.
Except for silence!
Traditional bows are more suited for heavier arrows in terms with of gpp , most hunters shooting 45-60lb range will use 600-900 grain arrows shooting around 140fps these are High doc arrows with 300+ grain single bevel broad heads.
The range is
Exactly it takes the "bow" out of the bow. Just get a rifle at that point
I want a recurve traditional bow and a compound bow. Nice ski and snowboard analogy.
I want all the bows too LOL
It's settled, I need a traditional bow.
Awesome. You're going to have a blast!
No bro if your hunting just no your wasting your effort if your hunting
@@Loldjj Yeah I forgot about all those hunter-gatherers using compound bows for the past 65,000 years lmao. Don't be an idiot, man. Traditional bowhunting is very popular, and was the norm for most of human history.
@@brandonwood3442 so walk naked like peoples in past 65k years back
@@heydaddy2471 Buddy compounds defeat the purpose of bow hunting
Dropped compound after i realised how liberating it is to shoot instinctive. Not to mention lighter and easier to carry and maintain on the hunt. (#60)
It sure is fun!
Thanks a lot! This is the video I've been looking for. I was going to get a compound but know I realized it's the traditional the one that suits me
Glad it was helpful!
i already know basically everything you just said, but it's so pleasing hear you talk, sitting in my chair, half a smile, nodding to everything you said.
I shoot traditional bows for fun and hunting and love the thrill of it
Awesome video for a beginner like me without even a bow. My 8yo daughter has been asking to lean for a while and this is a big help for bringing the sport into focus.
Glad you liked it!
I appreciate the snowboard/ski reference. I use it all the time when I am trying to get more friends into snow sports. I'm looking to get into archery and this video was very helpful. Thank you!
Glad to help!
Excellent video! This is the very first day I ever thought about buying a bow, I’ll check out your resources. Love the ski analogy.
I hope you enjoy the process Mikey!
I liked compounds because of the idea of tinkering, I loved the idea of taking a bow and tuning it with a set of arrows to be spot on with accuracy! Unfortunately a lot of compound is dominated by hunting, so you have to look a little deeper in order to find target compound material... some of my favorite compound shooters include: Jesse (the freak show) Broadwater, Chris Bee, and Kris Schaff!
For sure. Thanks for watching Nick!
I started to hunt around 2015 with a cross bow by 2021 i moved to compound bow but this year im using a trad bow.. the journey been really hard and expensive but if i was going to do it over ill start with the compound bow. The crossbow teaches you a lot of bad habits in the woods that you have to unlearn when you move over to compound
"Expensive" is my new bow eating up my, "full" stimulus check,...and then some!🤪
hahahha it happens!
@@OutdoorsAllie Thanks for helping get me addicted, maybe one day I will be as courageous as you and Nick & go hunting.
I've tried both but prefer my compound bow but only because I went to compound first and really came about from using firearms in the past.... love watching your videos keep up the good work and greetings from the uk..
Thanks for watching Phil!
awesome info Allie. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
I've shot both styles of bow and now I just shoot a recurve. It's just me and a simple bow. If I'm in the zone, I'm hitting the target. If I'm off I know it's not the bow. I sometimes shoot with a group. Of course with 4-6 people you need to keep it interesting so low score normally buys the first round after we get done. I'm normally the only one with a traditional bow and can't compete on the longer shots at a normal walking range. I also rarely end up buying the first round because I know with a large group someone will have an equipment failure with all that high tech equipment. It doesn't take much to knock a pin sight out of alignment or have a trigger malfunction. Unless I break my bow or lose all my arrows I will at least finish the course. Yes, I carry a second used ( already stretched) string and I wear a glove so I don't have much to worry about for equipment.
Much less equipment, thats for sure.
This was the first comparison that gave me the info I needed.
Happy to hear that it helped!
I say one of each. One for each hand.
COMPOUND BOW! MORE POWER, BETTER ACCURACY.
traditional bow is a lifestyle! unites bow, body and mind. compound bow is cool, but I didn't feel a soul in it !!!
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For sure.
Allie is a breath of FRESH air in the twang hunters club!
Thanks Rich!
@@OutdoorsAllie Its fun watching you learn! I'm picking up some things I didn't know from your posts. Thank you!
You reaffirmed my belief that traditional is defiantly best for me. I basically just wanna show off and have fun at ren faires 😂 (and maybe feel a bit like Kagome or Merida lol)
Go for it!!
accurate 70+ yards is doable with traditional, not as easy as compound sure but if easy is what you're going for than more power to you. Plus you can get sights and stabilizers for recurve too.
Who do you know of that's accurate enough to take an ethical shot on a white tail at 70 yards with a traditional bow? Without sights, stabilizers, etc..
@@DarxusC I've seen a buddy of mine take out a Axis Deer at 65 yards with a recurve bow. It's very possible.
@@dentennascimento-ramelb3077 possible is not the same as consistent enough to be ethical.
I love shooting my recurve it is real archery. Unfortunately with all my injuries losing vision in my right eye in an explosion being the most difficult. I am having so much trouble shooting anything over 15 yards. I just have so much trouble with depth perception I believe. So I might be forced to get another compound. But I am not giving up yet.
Im sorry to hear that. Don't give up. If you enjoy it then stick with it!
Yeah, I get your drift, but what the best idea is for people to do is this, to train as in cross train ambidextrously left/right handed ,learn recurve and compound, it kinda covers all 4 corners, it's like everything else, it all takes time,
I am a traditionalist if I Want Eazy I'll get a crossbow so you see I have not much use for a compound I love the video thank you😜✌🐝
Bee America compounds outshoot crossbows. It’s a common misconception that crossbows shoot far “like rifles”.
@@davidlinihan3626 That is highly dependent on the model. Power is going to be mainly determined by draw weight x powerstroke. Overall, it is easier to have and use a crossbow more powerful than a compound bow, but some crossbows with a short powerstroke + higher draw weight will be out-shot by compounds with longer powerstroke + lower draw weight. But the strongest crossbows with much high draw weights and decently long powerstrokes will outshoot the strongest compound bows. The Ten Point Nitro XRT crossbow for example has a 16.5-17 inch powerstroke and a draw weight of 225lbs. That will out-shoot something like the higher tier compound bows with up to a 30-31 inch powerstroke and between 80-100lbs in max draw weight (eg. the heaviest Hoyts go up to maybe 70 or 80lbs whereas the PSE Gorilla Sy was up to 100lbs).
Dude they shoot like 20 feet. You’d have better luck jumping on a deer’s back with a butter knife 😂
@@BudgetGamingPcTests well that just shows me you don't know anything about a crossbow
Great video Allie. Very informative. One day when I can put in the time I want to move to traditional at least a few years to try to harvest a whitetail with it.
Me too! Thanks for watching!
Hey I had tried using 45 pound string bow and It's could hit about 80 meters. Huhuhu
Just buy all the bows! ALL THE BOWS! They both have their purposes. I much prefer my recurve for small game. But love my compound for the accuracy, power, and range.
Agreed!
THIS is the correct answer!
Love this video Allie, ton of great info and thank you for including the links😊
You're so welcome Paola!
This is a helpful video!
I was thinking traditional bows would be more my speed, but they didn't seem "mainstream" from what I've seen from my limited research, so I wasn't sure
But you confirmed it with every point
The biggest reason is compound bows do genuinely seem like weapons. Of course traditional bows were historically used as weapons too, but that's not what I'm looking for. I want to explore/emphasize the traditional art of archery. I'm not a hunter or Hawkeye lol
Doesn't hurt that traditional bows are cheaper, either
You're going to have a blast!
Traditional all the way for me. There's no other rush quite like spot and stalking a deer to within 15 yards, and pulling off the perfect heart and lung shot with little more than a string and stick.
I can't wait to try one day!
Damn it here I go again....
When I started shooting a trad bow it was really hard because I didn't know how to aim. But when use a compound bow is was pretty easy for me at least but I was using a Olympic style recurve bow for about a year and a half
Have both, it will all come down to personal preference. I personally prefer the power and accuracy of a compound bow. You also can hold the shot on a compound, especially if you have a 90% letoff compared to a traditional. But what I find childish is how people have to bash one or the other because it is not their preference, now that's just silly.
For sure. Thanks for watching Peitro!
As a kid I shot a long bow but when my grandpa and cousins introduced me to a compound bow I was set
Ya, they are a lot of fun.
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Happy to hear that!
These days u can have the best of both. ILF has a place in barebow target & hunting. But a target recurve bow is 68" to 70" & most hunters r shooting 56" to 62".
If u r not a newbie that has been bowhunting for a while & want to go trad & just want to hunt then this would be a realistic $ breakdown.
A flagship bow will go for $1000-$1400.
The same equivalent in trad with a ILF bow for hunting would run u $550-$700. That's riser, limbs & string. To be as ethical as possible your arrows & broadheads will run u a little more than some guys r running through their compunds.
I highly suggest to start with a lower poundage limb that will be easy for u to build up your muscle memory while giving u a chance to develop strong form. After that u can go a little higher limbs with more or some carbon in them. I shoot a lower poundage/less carbon composite limb for training & hunt with a limb that has just a few more lbs. but quite a bit more carbon in it. The training limb is more forgiving & the hunting limbs pack a punch. Any road u choose don't go with too big of a boat with not enough motor so u will not be able to get the boat up to plane. 🎉
Shooting traditionally opens a world of different types of aiming and techniques not found with compound shooting.
Instinctive, gap, string walking, face walking, split vision, fixed crawl are a few as well as sight pins In Olympic style. I also think Jimmy Blackmons reference technique is cool for hunters.
I'll check out the Jimmy Blackmon one. Never heard of it!
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OA, if you ever stop Utube videos I think you will definitely have a career as an Outdoors educator with a State Fish and Wildlife Department. You are very gifted in expression and explaining things.
Teaching and directing.
God Bless, get ready for those Thunder chickens! And always, STEELER NATION Baby!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Scott, ive always enjoyed teaching/instructing.
I just bought Hoyt torrex I love it
Nice! Have fun with it!
Fantastic video Allie. I really wish I was as articulate as you. 👍
Thanks a lot. That made my day!
I think In the long run I’m going to want to have both . But even though it’s gunna be more difficult in some ways I think I’m gonna go with a traditional to start
Both is better!!
Great video there is alot of info ! Imho i think everyone should learn traditional first cheaper easier on your body ! When you become decent and want to continue then start with a compound bow ! But as always Allie you have great info!
Thanks Chuck!
Ok, random, but she is really pretty, I can definitely see her smile on the cover of some arrow company, nice smile, knowledge and down right gorgeous 🙊🤗
I have picked up a 30 year old compound bow and it shot like a dream a free sitting for years all it needed was a arrow rest
Happy to hear that!
I lost 70% of macular vision in my right eye from an explosive flash in Afghanistan.
Any thoughts on switching from right hand to left hand equipment?
I really don't trust my aim using my right eye anymore. Can't ethically hunt with my damaged right eye.
Damn, im sorry to hear that. Thank you for your service. Yes, Im sure it would require a lot of getting used to, but in the end i think you will be happy you made the choice to switch.
Hi Rich, hope all is well. How's the archery thing going? I just read your post and I think if switching from right to left doesn't work the next best bet would be to just shoot instinctively. You can shoot a compound instinctively as well. Just get rid of all the peep and sight stuff, this way you can leave both of your eyes or the good eye open. Your brain will adjust from there. My daughter, for some reason, just could not shoot well with peeps and sights on her compound so I just removed them and she she started shooting well like she does with her traditional. The only down side is it takes years to be really good shooting instinctively
Hey Allie, Dee in Darwin Australia here. I don’t have a pro shop or an archery shop here. I’ve learned a tonne from your channel. I’ll be getting my first bow in a week and I’ve never shot one and have no one to show me, would you mind doin a little something to help a girl out?
That's awesome. Yes I will continue to create this type of content! Thanks for watching Dee.
There are a lot of other great "how to" videos on RUclips as well if I can't get to the video in time. I hope you have so much fun learning!
Thanks Allie.
Tomb Raider brought me here......after all those leveling up
I think everybody should have a compound bow and a recurve they're both great
Me too!
Helpful information, thank you for sharing !
Glad it was helpful!
I prefer a recurve
I’m looking for a bow that remains accurate while diving from one roof to another 🤔
Get a crossbow.
Oops ,I’m learning !
Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
@@OutdoorsAllie
Hey have you ever been to San Juan River at the base of Navajo Dam? You need to if you haven't yet ! One of the best fly fishing the trout awesome ! I'm from New Mexico that's why I'm asking? Thanks again and Be safe . o yeah I got my recurve bow and I'm doing the damn thing! Hahaha✌
I've rolled over from compound to trad. I have both longbows and recurves, but like my longbows better.
Awesome video 👌 your videos are super interesting and the image quality is awesome; what camera and lighting setup do you use? Would be awesome if you could share that knowledge with us in a video or just in the comments. Thx 🙏🏻
Right now im using a Sony!
A lot to consider in making a purchase.
Yes, for sure.
Good video. I'm curious, does a compound still demand annual maintenance even if it's not being used regularly?
Yes, to a certain extent. I would recommend checking the srings cables and limbs.
A long awaited! Thank you
You bet!
It seems a compound would be better for me overall, but something about the Recurve calls to me.
They sure are fun!
Thanks for making a great video
One thing needs to be mentioned is that Archers need to keep an open mind. Don't get locked in to one way of Archery. I have run into where there is many different Archers and styles of shooting and some are dead set to their one style and think everyone else is wrong. Some of the die fast Traditional shooters don't believe Compound bows should be allowed and than the Compound Archers think Traditional and Crossbow Archers should not be allowed. I myself believe each has their place and own one of each.
Instead of fighting over this we need to be together for the big picture where the anti-hunters are there to shut all of down and Archery needs to work hand and hand with Gun Owners and Fishermen ( that includes women ). Like golfers are few and far between but own or have lots more property than us hunters have.
Yes, each has its own place. All are great!
"With traditional bow you need to be a much closer distance for hunting."
Ma'am, have you ever seen Zulu tribes and other tribes how they use bows and how accurately they shoot. As i told myself, it tepends on the archer. I was trained with a longbow, being able to shoot that accurately. Once given a compound bow, the arrow almost hit me (the archer)
And a Zulu wont be able to use a compound to save his life. The power of traditional bows are immaculate. Yes, Zulu people use poison tipped arrows for hunting, but point is, they hit their shots accurately from very far distances.
I just got into archery and I’m going to Learn on traditional bow and then I’ll go to a compound and then next year go deer hunting because I’ll be debt-free
Sounds like a plan!
Excellent video! Compound it is! How hard is it to transition from a Traditional Bow to a Compound Bow?
I wouldn't say hard, just different. You'll love it!
@@OutdoorsAllie thank you! Love your videos! 🤗
Just curious - why do you shoot off the shelf of your recurve instead of a rest?
Hi, so I recently started getting into archery after going to my local range and I fell in love with it and I want to keep learning. I’ve been using the compound bow they provide, and my question is when should I consider buying my own bow (I am leaning more to buying a compound bow)
If you have the money do it now!! Why wait?
Buy both types
what about the age of the bow>>I mean how long it stills good for shooting? Thank you and I hope that you will answer my question?
As long as you take care of it and change the strings and cables it will last a long time!
@@OutdoorsAllie thank you❤️
Trad life,💪🏹🏹🏹🏹😍
Crossbows blow compounders and trads into the water. I’ll bag tenfold the game than you guys in one season. I don’t care if you egoheads think it’s more skillful to use bows, you’ll be hungry much longer, and by that time I’ll have accomplished other things in my own time after easily filling my family’s bellies, while you guys are hiding in the bushes for 30 days, hoping a blind buck comes along for your 10 yard shot 😂😂😂😂
I just bought a banshee compound bow which I've only yousd a traditional bow
Nice! That's awesome Emma!
I feel like compound is mostly for only wanting to win medals for hitting the spider (the very center of the target) but honestly I really don’t want to do archery for winning medals. I got a expensive and powerful compound but I really wanna try recurve.
Recurve is a lot of fun! Im sure you'll love it!
A traditional bow is easier than snowboarding. Got it!. 🏂😜
because I am deformed/handicapped a fully adjustable compound bow is "best" for me.
With my compound bow, I can get a full 62.3 pound draw at my draw length of 23 inches.
With my 70 pound takedown recurve, I only get 47.32 pounds at my draw length.
Admittedly, my arrow velocity with either sucks. Compound bow is 190 to 195 fps with a 460 grain arrow, according to the crono. I haven't used a crono shooting the recurve, but I know it is a bunch slower.
I happy to hear you are still out there shooting Steve!
That’s a cool helpful video! Nice!
Thanks Tommy!
Nice video
I went to traditional archery because they are much more suited for me I have a 32 inch draw length. when I was out looking for a compound bow I could not find one that can draw up to 32 inches.
Dang, ya that is a long draw!
I didn't watch the whole video. But in the beginning I saw you were shooting the recurve like a compound; absolutely vertical with a stabilizer on it.
I shoot a trad bow at a 45° angle, and trad bows don't need stabilizers.
Made me curious about your experiences. Anyhoo, thanks for the vid
you mean she is not canting the bow? Most trad & recurve shooters don't cant the bow and most places you go to learn as a beginner teach you not to cant the bow: it's considered a form fault as it makes it harder to be consistent. But of course, if it works for you, there is nothing wrong with it. And it looks good on camera, which is why it's often done in Hollywood films & TV shows.
@@zetacrucis681 well thanks for teaching me a new word. And yeah its just the way I learned to shoot in order to keep the arrow set with no notch.
And I don't really "aim" when I shoot. I've got a hunter friend (compound bow)that insists I must have a visual "landmark" or point of focus when I shoot, but I don't. I just focus on what I want to hit and I can do that the way I larned to shoot, canting the bow
@@wewatchmovies4446 You have just perfectly described "instinctive" shooting. You feel the shot rather than consciously methodically aim (like when you throw a ball or stone at something). It must be very satisfying to be able to shoot that way, but I can't do that - when I try to my aim gets a lot worse. Maybe with time and a lot more practice it's something that might develop, but maybe it won't and the bow will remain something I operate rather than something that is an extension of my body.
@@zetacrucis681 I thought all trad bowists shot that way. Hence my initial comment. You're teaching me a whole bunch
Your comparisons of easy or hard to learn and easy or hard to become excellent is now going to haunt me in all things going forward. :) LOL
I've heard Leubou makes "excellent" strudel.
hahahahahah
@@theamazinggoldfish8713 Indeed :) After school we'd come home and watch Hogan's Heros on TV - always a bunch of laughs.
i have a compound bow and i love it. i would also like to learn the way of a traditional bow but i am not sure if i should dose any one have some advice on if i should purchaser a tradition bow
If you love your compound you im sure you will love a traditional bow as well. They are a blast!
Have you ever tried recurve olympic style? I went from it to compound after 5 years practicing, in my opinion the olympic style is more complicated, distances are bigger. The compound for me is when you just need to have fun shooting.
i haven't but that sounds awesome!
@@OutdoorsAllie Try it if you have rhe opportunity. I am curious to see how a person who shoots only compound will deal with the clicker and the technique. Cool videos btw, subbed :)))
You're awesome, Allie:) Thanks so much for the video
Thanks for watching, have a great week!
I want both
Me too LOL
Trad in general you always have to be on your game. Otherwise you slip into bad habits.
Question... which is better for shooting moving targets? all the videos that I watched for moving targets were done by a traditional bows... never saw one with a compound bow! is there a reason for that?
I've seen both. Not sure why, but traditional sounds more fun!
For hunting it depends on where and how you are hunting. I live in western Washington State. Lots of dense woods. Granted my longest hunting shot would be 40 yards. That's the range I practice out to, which is why I can't beat my friends at long distance shooting on the walking ranges that go out to 80 yards. Anyway... I rarely get a 40 yard shot. When I'm deer hunting my longest shot might be 30 feet. When I'm hunting I just walk through woods looking for deer. Deer here see people all the time and don't find them a big threat. So when you find a deer it will just start walking away if you don't spook it. They're also very dumb. As they're walking away if you softly whistle at least one will stop, turn around and look for the noise. Giving you at least a good 3/4 quarter shot. You make good videos so don't stop. Bows are like cars. Some people like new, fast and flashy sports cars and some like comfortable sedans.
Thanks for the feedback Mike!
Dang, I prefer snowboarding over skiing but I’m interested in recurve more then compound lol
LOL
I dont know how many 70 meter is in yards but a Girl at my Club can shoot up to 70 meters in the yellow cirkel
Whit recurve
Can you put a Sniper Scope on a bow Or a High Zoom scope i never see Scopes on them before why?
I know this is a really old comment but Garmin actually makes some smart sights for compound bows that are really nuts. I shoot trad but my buddy has one and it almost feels like cheating.
I have used both... I feel traditional now to be simpler and faster to operate.
True.
If compounds are better and more accurate for hunting then why dont they use them on tv shows like alone or naked and afraid,there always traditional recurves ive seen
You should have made the snowboard thing into a graphic. I wish i could make it and post a pic comment
Thanks for watching tim!
both are good. Ones just harder to learn,
True.
Traditional bows r art
Explained very well Allie. Question how is your Reinhart target holding up? My compression foam box center is blown out,.....again!
It gets pretty ripped up with broad heads, but still indecent condition!
@@OutdoorsAllie Great another $150...🤪👍
One is more Standard, and the other is more scientific.
I want to get my 13-year old daughter into archery (she's plays around now with a cheap recurve bow built for kids), but I would like her to go the route of competition and get onto a college team eventually. Is a traditional bow or compound bow more appropriate if I want to go this route with her? Thanks in advance.
That's really tough to say. I think as long as she's practicing and having fun I wouldn't sway her one way or another yet. Maybe wait a couple more years before deciding. Thanks for watching Alan!
@@OutdoorsAllie Thanks. And thanks also for the great videos you put together.
Actually, one can pick up snowboarding with one on one instructions within two days and be able to go down most routes of the blue (easy) and red (middle) color by the end of the 3rd day. But while you can get down just fine, excellence takes time. Now, downhill skiing takes a bit longer (about 3 to 5 days, one on one instructions). It all depends on how flexible one is and what other sports have previously been practiced. Ice skating can make skiing easier as does skateboarding for snowboarding. Nordic skiing/Backcountry skiing is probably the easiest to pick up but pulling of telemark.. let's not go there.
I started downhill skiing at 5, snowboarding at 14, and the last at 17. So I can reasonably say, that I'm capable of making an informed statement.
I was once a compound shooter. I got into it pretty hard. I was even making strings and cables. But I later found that traditional archery was much more enjoyable. Yes it's nice being able to hit the X every time and group arrows. But I got tired of the time it took to draw and get the pin on target as well as all the accessories you put on a compound. I just found lots of joy in the simplification and the added challenge that traditional archery offers.
I completely understand.