@@MKelly-gj1tu but then it would just end up being a Monty python sketch, with Cad threatening the comfy chair, and nothing but tea at 11 if he doesn't behave.
caduceus' line hits harder when you remember he literally described his job as *i remember the names of those who have gone.* cad looked at the gross wizard man told him, "i will not mourn you."
Exactly. Cad is a wonderful person - kind & empathetic - but he will not hesitate to destroy, or simply wipe from existence, anyone who hurts those he loves. Just look at his cold fury as he stalked the deck when Fjord was murdered at sea.
Remember that Cad was a character Tal pulled out of his bum during the panicked space between episodes 26 and 27. Yet he was exactly what the M9 needed.
Yes, especially after losing their moral compass, Molly. They needed someone to be unerringly wise, someone who would say the things the wisest people dare not, and on top of that, they needed a *real* healer.
@@bigdrew565 Talesin confirmed that he'd completely forgotten about a backup character and thought Cad up one weekend. I know the Nein weren't high enough level to have access to Divine Intervention at that point, but even so.
@@dysfunctionalcaterpillar790 actually, they were. Clerics get Divine Intervention at 5th level, I think. The % chance of course is only 5% so it's not bloody likely, but there you have it
@@petersenior5432 To my knowledge, Clerics only access Divine Intervention at 10th level. To quote: "At 10th level, you can call on your deity to intervene on your behalf...".
Yezza has 2 emotions with the nein around: 1. I'm ecstatic to have my wife back and to have all these wonderful people around💖 2. WHAT ARE YOU TEACHING OUR CHILD?!?!
Funny thing is that Percy would have said much the same thing to Ikithon. Though he would have said with much more bite and much less matter-of-fact. In fact, I can hear Percy starting it off like, "You poor, deluded fool. I used to have the same philosophy as you do. Then I met Vox Machina. They made me realize how wrong I was."
@@ForeverDegenerate Quite. This is why the debate would stay respectful between them both. They both want good for other people and genuinely disagree, philosophically, on how to get there. Still, fun debate... or between-team-rap-battle, whichever.
Eodwulf, scoffingly: "What are you supposed to be?" Caduceus: "Vegetarian." Scanlan can take a seat. We have someone who murdered with words alone. No spells needed.
„...respectfully.“ he says like he just didn’t burn this man worse than Caleb burned his parents 🔥 Also, Yasha and Beau will definitely be the two aunts who come by, bring Luc the best gifts and teach him swear words.
That's what makes Cad awesome. He means it, with zero malice implied. There was no doubt some anger there at the man who is behind his friend's misery, but Cad's words burn here because they are the truth, stated in kindness but without compromise. Trent is a fool, and having the majority of people too afraid to say it to his face doesn't change that.
I think Yasha would be about as respectful of a relative as you could hope for (around kids at least). Bringing Luc s gift like the bone harp would be pretty BA though. Beau is definitely teaching Luc swear words, probably in multiple languages. No, I think your true bad-influence-cool-aunt is definitely going to be Jester. I mean hell she IMMEDIATELY started describing Avocado after people were mentioning being careful with stories around Luc.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 so glad to see other people who understood the feel of his words. I didn’t even realize they could be a burn until the comment sections came out the following Monday
@@baneofskolas2888 Dump the crocks in a boiling bowl Pound them up with a thumping pole And when you’re finished, if they are whole Send them down the hall to roll!
The closest I got in real life was at work when my coworker clocked in and to strike up a convo cause she looked kinda worn out I asked “long day?” to which she said “long month” and I trying to offer sympathy said “I feel that”. She then proceeded to go off on a rant about how I had no idea about the amount of shifts she had been working (which she took on by choice) and after her rant I calmly replied “if you don’t want my sympathy, you will have my indifference.” And proceeded to clock out without another word (it was the end of my shift).
I like that the Wild Brothers at least made an attempt to be vaguely helpful, with Fjord taking the shopping in and Caduceus trying his best to cook while doubled over from the ceiling height.
2:36 This is just the best because the M9 is kind of used to Cad dropping big ol wisdom bombs but Astrid and Edowulf are most certainly not, and this is pretty much the first time either of them has actually interacted with Cad and it's just *chef's kiss*
I thought Eodwulf was going to fall out of his chair. The fact that the two of them had this mutual respect afterwards was cool. It also, sadly, probably painted a target on Caduceus's back... Trent WANTS Caleb to kill him...revenge against a certain firbolg who siphoned control away from him would definately make him want to go through with it. That, or Trent will discreetly send the Volstruckers after the Nein. I don't want a repeat of what happened with Fjord on the boat.
AND its to a man with that much power and demands so much respect to have a stranger break all his foundation just enough to see his cool demeanor just crumble, fuckin chefs kiss
@@MisterSmith00 Bruh, let's be real, if some Volstrucker's come looking, the Nein isn't gonna wake up hearing one member screaming from being stabbed They're gonna wake up to a triple-Fireball surprise attack.
Trent: Your life is my design, Bren. Everything you ever done, everything you ever were, and everything you ever will be, was by my machinations. If you think your life is your own, then kill me here and now. Caduceus: You're an idiot and no one loves you. Trent: 'Aight, I'ma head out.
Belinda Luna Yes, It nearly happened to Grog during pre-stream. However Vox Machina was able to prevent it, and they had even less capabilities than the Nein at the time.
Dnd groups absolutely refusing to turn down their weirdness and chaotic tendencies when meeting party members' family are such great moments. It's very funny to see the party member react to the minor-to-major breaches of social etiquette, from being like 'oh I can't take these people anywhere,,,' to trying to ignore it or contentedly being an equally chaotic enabler.
My Friday game the bard recently went home to see his mom and brother with the group, and when they left to continue the adventure his mom gave him a hand knitted sweater with duckies on it and the group fought over it. Mama bard is making more sweaters for when they fight winter personified
God's help anyone that's foolish enough to hurt Luc Brenatto. If they're lucky his aunts and uncles will only mess them up, if they're not..... They have to deal with Veth.
Veth nothing. Yeza Brenatto wouldn't leave anything left for his wife to shoot. I'm sorry, but I don't fancy pissing off a Master Alchemist that could MacGyver a bomb in five seconds. Hell, he's probably good enough that he could make an explosive that would kill you and only you, leaving everything around you intact. Also, let's not forget that Yeza now has a working relationship with Pumat. I wouldn't want Pumat Swole knocking on my door being like, "Respectfully, you hurt my friend's son. I'm afraid I'm going to have to hurt you." Or, you know, the Gentleman. Like could you imagine getting a knock at your door and it's The Gentleman? He'd be like, "Hello there. My name is The Gentleman. Perhaps you have heard of me? You see... you have injured someone close to me. I... cannot allow that to go unpunished." But yeah, don't harm the kid who's favorite Aunt is a Rage-Based Barbarian. Just don't do it.
Kid to Luc: Gimme your lunch money. *From all around* The sound of swords being drawn, fire being summoned, knuckles cracking, beetles buzzing, a serrated lollipop appearing, and a crossbow being cocked. The bully immediately goes blind.
I want nothing more than for the sequence of the M9 charging into Veth's house to be animated. Fjord kicking open the door, Beau causing chaos, Yasha picking up Luc, and Caduceus awkwardly crouching in a halfling apartment would be amazing to see.
I'm sorry, but Veth having antlers in respect to Keyleth made my heart so happy!! Also, poor Yeza! He's just trying his best to raise Luc well, and the Mighty Nein make it quite interesting.
At least Yeza will never have to worry about Luc being really harmed. I mean, who would be foolish enough to harm the son of one of the of The Mighty Nein?
@@pyrrhusnikos242 Matt wouldn't dare. He would have to contend with a group far worse and far more powerful than The Mighty Nein if he tried anything with Luc.
Well, to be fair, Veth practically adopted the M9 way back near the start of the campaign. By the time Yeza was freed and reunited with Veth, he kinda didn't have a choice. :p
And then you have Luc, who now has the best/worst family in the world. Worst because there is exactly 1 stable influence in that entire group. Everyone else is some degree of damaged, chaotic or literal criminal. Best, because you know if ANYTHING happened to that kid, all hell would break loose.
Taliesin said in the latest Talk Machina that Cad wasn't angry at Trent but rather amused. As in Cad think that Trent was a total idiot, and he saw that no one wasn't going to call him out, so he had to do it. As a public safety precaution. Taliesin added that Cad was swallowing chuckles as he was telling Trent what he thinks. This make it even better than Cad being angry, I think.
You know that fable The Emperor's New Clothes about the scammers who sell a king some clothes that "only smart people can see" and everyone pretends it works until a kid just goes "that dude nekked af"? Cad would be that kid. He doesn't think better of himself, doesn't get angry, he is just looking around and going "we all see this dude is an idiot, right? Is nobody gonna say anything? Somebody should say something"
It's one thing to roast someone, it's another to roast them that hard *and* give them and everyone around you genuinely useful wisdom and in such a way that if the recipient tried to get back at you they'd probably just look like an asshole. Tal is something else.
Cad is right. Pain just harms and breaks. Evolution happens when you overcomes the pain and make an effort to grow. And that happens out of love (be it for what you do, for someone, and so on).
@Kristopher Chavez i agree. But what Trent suggested was that pain itself makes you grow. Pain puts you in a context. Bonds are then what makes you evolve and grow from that situation. So both are needed.
@@giorgiomauceri410 not quite, and I think that was Cad's point. You can certainly teach someone with pain, but there is a breaking point some can't take it anymore (like what happened to Caleb). But you can achieve the same results _without_ the pain, and I think that was Cad's point. Astrid, Aedwolf and Bran already admired and respected Ikithon long before he forced them to murder their parents to prove their loyalty. Caleb, having learned 99% of his magic outside of Ikithon's teachings, seems to be stronger than either Astrid or Aedwolf. So in short, Trent's method of teaching was unnecessarily brutal since he could have achieved by just approaching them with interest would have been stronger than what he got (2 seemingly loyal students who seem to be actively plotting to murder him and 1 complete rebel) and wasn't even more effective than just letting people walk around and learn magic on their own. Couldn't be any more of a failure as a teacher if he purposefully tried to.
@@snap26neo Teaching them wisdom and empathy? My parents never hurt me when I was growing up, they never let things hurt me, but they thought me that hurt exists in the world, that is not okay to hurt people, they thought me to be kind and respectful. I wouldn't be the man I am today if it wasn't for them. Raising people isn't easy. And I hope to be to my kids (if I ever have them) what my parents were to me. And this would be a even sadder world if people needed to suffer to learn empathy.
@@gabrielsantos2430 but have you ever had your heart broken by others? betrayed? let down? humiliated? these are all forms of hurt and suffering, and i believe its foolish to think that one can go through life without going through these hardships
I missed Cad so much. There is something about the voice that just feels warm and calming. It's probably why his burns have so much impact. It's like being told of by a parent when you know they're right.
When Beau is listing off the things the Nein are going to do when they show up at Veth's place I half expected some of them to break out into. "Blunt the Knives" from the Hobbit.
Caduceus (and therefore Taliesin) has said some very inspirational life lessons. I'm also a fan of the spiritual lessons from plants that he spoke of several episodes previously. When he speaks, the world listens.
I had literal SHIVERS at the end of Caduceus's speech :0 Taliesin is incredible. I don't know where he gets his inspiration, but he's SO good at playing a character it's unreal
Veth and nott give COMPLETELY different vibes. Nott definitely was chaotic evil but its moments like this where veth asks for a cute lolita dress, or when she bought overalls for her family or when she was confused about how jester sounded mean in which she just sounded like the mom she truly is and i love it
Really Veth is just a less extreme version of Nott, which Sam said before her transformation that was the difference, I don't think Nott was ever Chaotic Evil, just every Chaotic and didn't think of consequences (explosive arrow, the trap that killed her, starting a war back up) I can still very much see Veth and Nott as the same person, they still act the same in attitude and personality except Veth is just calmer and more chill
Veth just feels like a healthier Nott. Not pressured about homelesness, the possible faith of her husband and son, back in a body she's not disgusted by, and reunited with her family. Nott's..."Nottness" was quite likely more due to her emotional inestability than anything regarding Goblin biology. You can see that considering how she acted alongside Yeza or Luc even before the change.
I hadn’t thought about it before, but I suspect that the experience of becoming Nott had shattered what Veth used to be, and now there are like two different personas in a halfling shaped body
"I wish for you in the future to find someone who will mourn you when you are gone" is without a doubt the most polite and kind takedown of an entire human person I have ever heard
I snapped so much when caduceus said this like omfg. My parents always look at me weird when I snap, its better thsan clapping and not being able to hear what hes saying lol. But Cad was super ballsy to say that
00:02:03 "And you would know that but you have none around you." *Fjord's creeping smile* I know it's Travis that smirked but I Imagine it's Fjord while Cad delivers that gut-wrenching blow and it's SOOOOOOOOO satisfying watching the student admire his master at work. Major kudos to Taliesin for his 100% kino cleric.
THATS THE BEST PART! Veth keeps coming home with these EXCEPTIONALLY dangerous gifts like crossbows and fireworks for a 4 year old. Would not be surprised in the least if luke ends up hurting himself or others one of these days
I always love the moments with the M9s non-adventurer companions hear of their exploits in casual conversation. Like, nonchalantly dropping that you killed a false god and looted thousands of gold last weekend.
C1 SPOILERS The only people who can properly correlate to and communicate with adventuring parties are other adventuring parties. Poor Yezza had no way of dealing with that, but if it was Percy and Vex they'd be like "oh false gods, true, those are harsh... But just wait until you need to kill your first _real_ god, now _that_ is a bitch!"
I wouldn't be surprised if campaign 3 is set 14(or more) years in the future, and Luke is one of the party members, trying to uncover the truth of his mother's and her friends' adventures across Wildmount. Might be interesting if Vesper had a reason to pop in as a PC too.
Holy Crap! I didn't even think of that! Now I CAN'T unsee it! >.< Now I want them cleaning Veth's apartment and washing her dishes all while singing 'Blunt The Knives.' "That's what Yeza Brenatto hates!"
The whole part with the m9 barging in on the Brenattos home just goes to show just how much of a family they are at this point (reminds me a little of extended family when we all meet at my grandparents' but like, way friendlier/cooler) it's why it weirds me out when any of them talk of an 'after' because I couldn't not imagine them being in each others lives!
This was a good collection from a fantastic episode full of great dialogue. Some honorable mentions for me were Travis asking if they have any coats and Marisha's suspicious eye squints at the owl. 😆
As much as I love this scene for its burn value, there’s also a very important life lesson behind this exchange, one I’ve learned as a teacher: As you go through life you’ll meet people with whom you’re at odds, who anger you, and who disappoint you. If you want to criticize them, which is a perfectly healthy way to deal with stress caused by that person towards you, the most effective and beneficial way to do so is this. 1, compliment the person on their positive qualities, 2, voice your criticism, and 3, offer a path for growth and change. And always, ALWAYS use kind language.
Poor Yeza. On the one hand he's got his wonderful wife back, and she's somehow even more wonderful, and he loves her... He just didn't bank on her having five new amazing, fantastic (fuckwit) friends who think it's appropriate to gift his son explosives, and giant fey canines who will blink in an out of existence within seconds and yet somehow have managed to take a dump in his slippers in the mean time, omg. The seven foot bovine-looking friend would be okay, if he didn't seem to take such enjoyment in his role as therapist-enabler.
I love Talisen and what Cad said to Trent here was perfect for the character. From a meta perspective though, he and Trent are two sides of the same coin. They look at each other and think the other is wrong, when in truth, both are correct. Pain can be the driving force that pushes people beyond what they thought possible. It can also shut them down, stifle their creativity and bury them in despair. Likewise, love can build people up from a broken place. Love can teach people they have worth, and in turn lead them to recognize the worth of others. Love can also lead to coddling. Someone unchallenged can become inept, and unable to carry themselves through the burdens of life. Love can lead one to turn a blind eye to abusive and destructive behavior. The truth is, we need pain, and we need love, to be our best selves.
I didn't even see it like an insult or a burn. Cad isn't lying that it was a gift, and him mentioning Trent's status is part of it. Trent is so powerful both magically and politically that the only people he has in his life are various enemies that want him dead or deposed, and allies who are either too indoctrinated or too scared to be anything other than Yes men. Cad is the only one at that table or in his life who is willing to give him bare honesty. That's why he said it was a gift and that's why he said such harsh words to him and ended it with "respectfully".
"There was a gold one, but it got stuck in this woman's hand, it was incredible." Sounds like she's going to have to figure out how to rewrite her own John Hancock.
Man, with my country's shitty internet speed I always have to watch the episodes in 144p . I appreciate these videos so much cuz I get to see their expressions waaaaaay better despite being on the same resolution. I love these edits.
Caduceus (and Taleisen) is so well spoken and badass. Mans told someone he’s an idiot and no one loves him or will miss him and was so respectful in doing so like damn
i always adore how stoked travis is when tal says "may I say before you go..." Travis KNOWS tal will deliver, he's already so into it. that's a lot of faith and love at the table her there. i love CR
The look of horror on yessas face was priceless when bo did the secret handshake. I just chomping at the bit to find out more from last week's episode.
"What children have learned at the rising of a fist has been to give themselves up to being angry, and despairing. That can be unlearned through compassion, empathy, respect, and patience... and its far more difficult to do so."
> May I say, before you go… I think perhaps you are one of the most powerful mages that I’ve ever had the pleasure to be in the presence of, and for this I would offer a gift, which I think it has been a long time since anyone has pointed out to you that you’re a fool. > Pain doesn’t make people. It’s love that makes people. The pain is inconsequential. It’s love that saves them. And you would know that, but you have none around you, you said so yourself. You surround yourself with lies and deception, and… I wish for you in the future to find someone who will mourn you when you are gone. > Respectfully. In case people want to try the line yourself or just as a quote
Trent: (plots in 20 INT as an archmage)
Deuce:(Laughs in 30 WIS as a vibe checker)
trent just failed the vibe check
@@bournanebournane4766 NOT A VIBE!!!
NOT A VIBE!
Trent wakes up in Caleb's tower and Cadeuceus just be like
"YOU HAVE BEEN SUMMONED TO THE TOWER OF MIGHTY VIBES FOR YOUR VIBE CHECK"
@@MKelly-gj1tu but then it would just end up being a Monty python sketch, with Cad threatening the comfy chair, and nothing but tea at 11 if he doesn't behave.
caduceus' line hits harder when you remember he literally described his job as *i remember the names of those who have gone.* cad looked at the gross wizard man told him, "i will not mourn you."
Exactly.
Cad is a wonderful person - kind & empathetic - but he will not hesitate to destroy, or simply wipe from existence, anyone who hurts those he loves.
Just look at his cold fury as he stalked the deck when Fjord was murdered at sea.
Oh damn
Oh damn, that didn't even occur to me. I love his sass so much.
The most devastating part is that Cad wasn’t trying to burn Trent. He was trying to be genuinely helpful to him.
@@PlutopianSociety and Trent knew it, which I think is why he didn’t even have a retort.
Remember that Cad was a character Tal pulled out of his bum during the panicked space between episodes 26 and 27. Yet he was exactly what the M9 needed.
I was under the impression that it was in the works longer than that.
Yes, especially after losing their moral compass, Molly. They needed someone to be unerringly wise, someone who would say the things the wisest people dare not, and on top of that, they needed a *real* healer.
@@bigdrew565 Talesin confirmed that he'd completely forgotten about a backup character and thought Cad up one weekend. I know the Nein weren't high enough level to have access to Divine Intervention at that point, but even so.
@@dysfunctionalcaterpillar790 actually, they were. Clerics get Divine Intervention at 5th level, I think. The % chance of course is only 5% so it's not bloody likely, but there you have it
@@petersenior5432 To my knowledge, Clerics only access Divine Intervention at 10th level. To quote: "At 10th level, you can call on your deity to intervene on your behalf...".
Yezza has 2 emotions with the nein around:
1. I'm ecstatic to have my wife back and to have all these wonderful people around💖
2. WHAT ARE YOU TEACHING OUR CHILD?!?!
That poor sweet man.
I want a fucking firework!
i mean i would also be fucking exhausted with a group as chaotic as the mighty nein
3. wHERE ARE YOU GETTING ALL OF THIS MONEY
@@yeapeeplz we stand corrected XD
Okay, who else wants Percy and Cad to debate personal and sociopolitical philosophies?
"Life needs things to live."
"No, it really doesn't."
Funny thing is that Percy would have said much the same thing to Ikithon. Though he would have said with much more bite and much less matter-of-fact. In fact, I can hear Percy starting it off like, "You poor, deluded fool. I used to have the same philosophy as you do. Then I met Vox Machina. They made me realize how wrong I was."
@@ForeverDegenerate Quite. This is why the debate would stay respectful between them both. They both want good for other people and genuinely disagree, philosophically, on how to get there.
Still, fun debate... or between-team-rap-battle, whichever.
@@WingedWyrm i now want tal to write and perform both raps. Why
Bonus points if Molly is in the background smoking a joint
life does need things to live it cant live without stuff feeding it and a supporting ecosystem
Eodwulf, scoffingly: "What are you supposed to be?"
Caduceus: "Vegetarian."
Scanlan can take a seat. We have someone who murdered with words alone. No spells needed.
Scanlan would be proud
Caduceus kills people with words. Scanlan disrespects nation leaders while bong ripping.
How does the song go?
"Tell your boyfriend.. if he says he's got beef..." lol
"I wish for you to find someone who will mourn you when you die."
I didn't know Cad could cast Dominate Person as a grave cleric.
Vicious Mockery.
It's power word kill at this point
Cad didn't so much dominate Trent as completely own him.
“Respectfully.”
„...respectfully.“ he says like he just didn’t burn this man worse than Caleb burned his parents 🔥
Also, Yasha and Beau will definitely be the two aunts who come by, bring Luc the best gifts and teach him swear words.
That's what makes Cad awesome. He means it, with zero malice implied. There was no doubt some anger there at the man who is behind his friend's misery, but Cad's words burn here because they are the truth, stated in kindness but without compromise. Trent is a fool, and having the majority of people too afraid to say it to his face doesn't change that.
They're the no-bullshit lesbian aunts we never knew we needed in our lives.
I think Yasha would be about as respectful of a relative as you could hope for (around kids at least). Bringing Luc s gift like the bone harp would be pretty BA though. Beau is definitely teaching Luc swear words, probably in multiple languages. No, I think your true bad-influence-cool-aunt is definitely going to be Jester. I mean hell she IMMEDIATELY started describing Avocado after people were mentioning being careful with stories around Luc.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 so glad to see other people who understood the feel of his words. I didn’t even realize they could be a burn until the comment sections came out the following Monday
The M9 give me dwarves visiting Bilbo's house and eating all his shit vibes
Blunt the knives, bend the forks
Smash the bottles and burn the corks
Chip the glasses and crack the plates
That's what the Brennatos hate!
Drum the cloth
Trail the fat
Leave the bones on the bedroom mat
Poor the milk on the pantry flooooooooor
Smash the wine on every door!
@@seanmurphy3430 We need to get this to the Critterverse and make it into an actual song!
@@ParanoidCritter YASSS PLZ🙏🙏🙏🤣🤣🤣
@@baneofskolas2888 Dump the crocks in a boiling bowl
Pound them up with a thumping pole
And when you’re finished, if they are whole
Send them down the hall to roll!
Honestly Taliesin is such a wordsmith... like wtf... my God... I wish I could do that
Can we appreciate the "Respectfully" tho?
What must have hurt the absolute most was that he actually meant it.
Life needs things to live.
You can tell that if he subclassed in Bard he would have make that a Vicious Mockery
The closest I got in real life was at work when my coworker clocked in and to strike up a convo cause she looked kinda worn out I asked “long day?” to which she said “long month” and I trying to offer sympathy said “I feel that”. She then proceeded to go off on a rant about how I had no idea about the amount of shifts she had been working (which she took on by choice) and after her rant I calmly replied “if you don’t want my sympathy, you will have my indifference.” And proceeded to clock out without another word (it was the end of my shift).
@@morrisl123 it's kinda funny that he had Viscious Mockery when playing Molly and all his Mockery's were always some infernal gibberish
The rest of the M9 are totally the cool aunts and uncles that create havoc for Veth's family lol
But also teach some....interesting....bits of life that he won't learn from his parents.
And Yeza is the poor dad just trying his best to reign in the chaos
@@khadijahdanielian3918 yea LOL 🤣
Veth and Yeza are gonna need more yard space for when the rest show up.
I'd watch that sitcom
Episode 110: Yeza dies of a M9 enabled heart attack
20 episodes off, and it was Luc
But close! XD
Oh boy
The cacophony of noise when the rest of the Mighty Nein arrived at Veth’s House was too real. 😆
It was like when the rest of the family barged through the front door at the end of Home Alone.
@@wuzzy41123 I was just about to type "That gave me some real Home Alone vibes"
The fact that Caduceus is wayyyy too tall for Veth’s house makes it even better
I like that the Wild Brothers at least made an attempt to be vaguely helpful, with Fjord taking the shopping in and Caduceus trying his best to cook while doubled over from the ceiling height.
@@Zombiewithabowtie 'The Wild Brothers'
I love it so much
2:36
This is just the best because the M9 is kind of used to Cad dropping big ol wisdom bombs but Astrid and Edowulf are most certainly not, and this is pretty much the first time either of them has actually interacted with Cad and it's just *chef's kiss*
I thought Eodwulf was going to fall out of his chair.
The fact that the two of them had this mutual respect afterwards was cool.
It also, sadly, probably painted a target on Caduceus's back...
Trent WANTS Caleb to kill him...revenge against a certain firbolg who siphoned control away from him would definately make him want to go through with it.
That, or Trent will discreetly send the Volstruckers after the Nein.
I don't want a repeat of what happened with Fjord on the boat.
AND its to a man with that much power and demands so much respect to have a stranger break all his foundation just enough to see his cool demeanor just crumble, fuckin chefs kiss
Travis is so used to receiving it, he clues in instantly and gets hype.
@@MisterSmith00 Bruh, let's be real, if some Volstrucker's come looking, the Nein isn't gonna wake up hearing one member screaming from being stabbed
They're gonna wake up to a triple-Fireball surprise attack.
The funny part is how many times Cad probably scared the heck out of Edowulf because Cad was getting pissed off.
Trent: Your life is my design, Bren. Everything you ever done, everything you ever were, and everything you ever will be, was by my machinations. If you think your life is your own, then kill me here and now.
Caduceus: You're an idiot and no one loves you.
Trent: 'Aight, I'ma head out.
Trent's totally flirting with the idea of becoming a lich. His reaction to someone bringing up his mortality makes me suspect this. That or magic jar.
Oh god that’s a horrifying thing I haven’t considered before
That, or something of that nature, has been my theory ever since Cableb’s backstory was revealed.
He is totally going to the Lich route
Can you make people into phylacteries?
Belinda Luna Yes, It nearly happened to Grog during pre-stream. However Vox Machina was able to prevent it, and they had even less capabilities than the Nein at the time.
This is why it's infinitely better for a player character to have a family rather than be a loner because then you get shit like this
Dnd groups absolutely refusing to turn down their weirdness and chaotic tendencies when meeting party members' family are such great moments. It's very funny to see the party member react to the minor-to-major breaches of social etiquette, from being like 'oh I can't take these people anywhere,,,' to trying to ignore it or contentedly being an equally chaotic enabler.
To roleplay a family, even a dysfunctional one, requires to have some knowledge or experience about them irl. 😟
@@valacarno err... you okay?
My Friday game the bard recently went home to see his mom and brother with the group, and when they left to continue the adventure his mom gave him a hand knitted sweater with duckies on it and the group fought over it. Mama bard is making more sweaters for when they fight winter personified
"Yasha with Luc on her shoulders" needs a fanart.
I've seen fanart of it already. It exists.
@@Miner49er201 yeah same like 2 hours after the stream
@@Miner49er201 WHERE?
It gave me Grog and Pike vibes
@@WorgenGrrl Pinterest
Caduceus dropping some life advice. He would make the best therapist IRL
Absolutely amazing
I would book an appointment immediately
Goodness knows we need it.
Respectfully, the last thing therapists need to do is hand out feel-good advice about love.
One needs both WIS and INT.
@@juicejooos Give Ducey Beau's circlet of 19 Intelligence and then he's the ultimate therapist.
Cad just opened up the Savalirwood Bar and Grill and just lit up Trent like he was a char-broil steak.
Caleb's Family Barbeque, part 2.
@@kaitlynwickham6237 Ooooh Burn! lol
It's doubly effective considering that he's a staunch vegetarian, looool.
@@vietbluecoeur The one food that he would let go to waste, a char-broiled Icky thong.
Sam is so gonna cosplay that outfit at some point, calling it now.
When the live shows return, Sam will return to scar our eyes.
This image must be sealed behind the divine gate.
@@YouAnd_OnlyYou I'm not sure even the Divine Gate could hold it *worried emoji*
Oh God No.
Reven619 he will be wearing matching tights... I know it.
God's help anyone that's foolish enough to hurt Luc Brenatto. If they're lucky his aunts and uncles will only mess them up, if they're not..... They have to deal with Veth.
Veth nothing. Yeza Brenatto wouldn't leave anything left for his wife to shoot. I'm sorry, but I don't fancy pissing off a Master Alchemist that could MacGyver a bomb in five seconds. Hell, he's probably good enough that he could make an explosive that would kill you and only you, leaving everything around you intact. Also, let's not forget that Yeza now has a working relationship with Pumat. I wouldn't want Pumat Swole knocking on my door being like, "Respectfully, you hurt my friend's son. I'm afraid I'm going to have to hurt you." Or, you know, the Gentleman. Like could you imagine getting a knock at your door and it's The Gentleman? He'd be like, "Hello there. My name is The Gentleman. Perhaps you have heard of me? You see... you have injured someone close to me. I... cannot allow that to go unpunished."
But yeah, don't harm the kid who's favorite Aunt is a Rage-Based Barbarian. Just don't do it.
Kid to Luc: Gimme your lunch money.
*From all around* The sound of swords being drawn, fire being summoned, knuckles cracking, beetles buzzing, a serrated lollipop appearing, and a crossbow being cocked. The bully immediately goes blind.
@@ForeverDegenerate DUDE
I COULD HEAR PUMAT IN YOUR COMMENT
That is so insane
@@ForeverDegenerate imagine, the entire Mighty Nein, and all their friends and allies throughout the campaign, just mob outside the house.
w e l l
I have a weird feeling that Yezza is some form of Matt's self insert character, it just feels so straight from the heart, I love it.
he said something similar during his one-on-one talks episode!
Which is pretty cute to be honest, considering that Yeza's personality is supposed to be as loving and caring as possible.
I want nothing more than for the sequence of the M9 charging into Veth's house to be animated. Fjord kicking open the door, Beau causing chaos, Yasha picking up Luc, and Caduceus awkwardly crouching in a halfling apartment would be amazing to see.
I'm sorry, but Veth having antlers in respect to Keyleth made my heart so happy!!
Also, poor Yeza! He's just trying his best to raise Luc well, and the Mighty Nein make it quite interesting.
At least Yeza will never have to worry about Luc being really harmed. I mean, who would be foolish enough to harm the son of one of the of The Mighty Nein?
@@ForeverDegenerate Trent Icathon probably
@@ForeverDegenerate Matt Mercer probably
@@TheElectrikCow Given the fact that he wants Caleb to replace him, it wouldn't surprise me if he tried to that to force the issue.
@@pyrrhusnikos242 Matt wouldn't dare. He would have to contend with a group far worse and far more powerful than The Mighty Nein if he tried anything with Luc.
I love how the M9 just up and decided to be adopted by Veth and Yeza. They had no say in it
Well, to be fair, Veth practically adopted the M9 way back near the start of the campaign. By the time Yeza was freed and reunited with Veth, he kinda didn't have a choice. :p
And then you have Luc, who now has the best/worst family in the world.
Worst because there is exactly 1 stable influence in that entire group. Everyone else is some degree of damaged, chaotic or literal criminal.
Best, because you know if ANYTHING happened to that kid, all hell would break loose.
@@thundercrash4775 That one stable influence shared farts with Luke...and saved his life
Taliesin said in the latest Talk Machina that Cad wasn't angry at Trent but rather amused. As in Cad think that Trent was a total idiot, and he saw that no one wasn't going to call him out, so he had to do it. As a public safety precaution. Taliesin added that Cad was swallowing chuckles as he was telling Trent what he thinks. This make it even better than Cad being angry, I think.
It makes Cad seem all the more powerful if all he could feel for him was basically "lol, what an edgelord."
Oh damn
You know that fable The Emperor's New Clothes about the scammers who sell a king some clothes that "only smart people can see" and everyone pretends it works until a kid just goes "that dude nekked af"? Cad would be that kid. He doesn't think better of himself, doesn't get angry, he is just looking around and going "we all see this dude is an idiot, right? Is nobody gonna say anything? Somebody should say something"
Beau cheering after Luc cursed is everything
It's one thing to roast someone, it's another to roast them that hard *and* give them and everyone around you genuinely useful wisdom and in such a way that if the recipient tried to get back at you they'd probably just look like an asshole. Tal is something else.
Never doubt the endless wisdom of Eldritch Beings.
I forgot veth saw keyleth through the portal.
God beau really is that chaotic Aunt/older sibling incarnate
Beau is exactly how I plan to be as an uncle 🤣🤣
She is channeling a lot of Kentucky in Beau
Cad is right. Pain just harms and breaks. Evolution happens when you overcomes the pain and make an effort to grow. And that happens out of love (be it for what you do, for someone, and so on).
@Kristopher Chavez i agree. But what Trent suggested was that pain itself makes you grow. Pain puts you in a context. Bonds are then what makes you evolve and grow from that situation. So both are needed.
@@giorgiomauceri410 not quite, and I think that was Cad's point. You can certainly teach someone with pain, but there is a breaking point some can't take it anymore (like what happened to Caleb). But you can achieve the same results _without_ the pain, and I think that was Cad's point.
Astrid, Aedwolf and Bran already admired and respected Ikithon long before he forced them to murder their parents to prove their loyalty. Caleb, having learned 99% of his magic outside of Ikithon's teachings, seems to be stronger than either Astrid or Aedwolf. So in short, Trent's method of teaching was unnecessarily brutal since he could have achieved by just approaching them with interest would have been stronger than what he got (2 seemingly loyal students who seem to be actively plotting to murder him and 1 complete rebel) and wasn't even more effective than just letting people walk around and learn magic on their own. Couldn't be any more of a failure as a teacher if he purposefully tried to.
@@mordirit8727 how do you teach someone wisdom and empathy without making them suffer?
@@snap26neo Teaching them wisdom and empathy? My parents never hurt me when I was growing up, they never let things hurt me, but they thought me that hurt exists in the world, that is not okay to hurt people, they thought me to be kind and respectful. I wouldn't be the man I am today if it wasn't for them. Raising people isn't easy. And I hope to be to my kids (if I ever have them) what my parents were to me.
And this would be a even sadder world if people needed to suffer to learn empathy.
@@gabrielsantos2430 but have you ever had your heart broken by others? betrayed? let down? humiliated? these are all forms of hurt and suffering, and i believe its foolish to think that one can go through life without going through these hardships
I missed Cad so much. There is something about the voice that just feels warm and calming. It's probably why his burns have so much impact. It's like being told of by a parent when you know they're right.
When Beau is listing off the things the Nein are going to do when they show up at Veth's place I half expected some of them to break out into. "Blunt the Knives" from the Hobbit.
That would have been cool
@@user-tk7wt4ic4w Drink her booze and break her plates... 'cause that's what Veth Brenatto hates!
And here I thought Caleb was the master of burning people...
He is when he's not on the receiving end.
He's got the BBQ experience, but Cad has the heartfelt sincerity.
Caduceus (and therefore Taliesin) has said some very inspirational life lessons. I'm also a fan of the spiritual lessons from plants that he spoke of several episodes previously. When he speaks, the world listens.
He’s an ancient being, he’s had time to learn.
@@samminicksm caduceus or Taliesin? Lol
@@linus4d1 Taliesin, of course
Just Always remember. Life needs Things to live!
@@nilsauracher2638
And " things" need life to obsess over them
Needful Thimgs. With eldritch, far realms names. And hungers. And spellcheck.
I had literal SHIVERS at the end of Caduceus's speech :0
Taliesin is incredible. I don't know where he gets his inspiration, but he's SO good at playing a character it's unreal
Well he IS an Eldritch God...
He is an Eldritch Pyramid, he IS the inspiration
Life experience.
@@Levsa399 Lives* experience
Veth and nott give COMPLETELY different vibes. Nott definitely was chaotic evil but its moments like this where veth asks for a cute lolita dress, or when she bought overalls for her family or when she was confused about how jester sounded mean in which she just sounded like the mom she truly is and i love it
Really Veth is just a less extreme version of Nott, which Sam said before her transformation that was the difference, I don't think Nott was ever Chaotic Evil, just every Chaotic and didn't think of consequences (explosive arrow, the trap that killed her, starting a war back up) I can still very much see Veth and Nott as the same person, they still act the same in attitude and personality except Veth is just calmer and more chill
Nott did the same, she also cast disguise self to look like a little girl and just relax
Veth just feels like a healthier Nott. Not pressured about homelesness, the possible faith of her husband and son, back in a body she's not disgusted by, and reunited with her family.
Nott's..."Nottness" was quite likely more due to her emotional inestability than anything regarding Goblin biology. You can see that considering how she acted alongside Yeza or Luc even before the change.
I hadn’t thought about it before, but I suspect that the experience of becoming Nott had shattered what Veth used to be, and now there are like two different personas in a halfling shaped body
@@nanusantos1696 that sounds like a commentary on quite a few societies around the world
"I wish for you in the future to find someone who will mourn you when you are gone" is without a doubt the most polite and kind takedown of an entire human person I have ever heard
favorite part was when veth found out her sons age lol
I love the rest of the party at that moment oh no were horrible influences. its campaign one's interaction with Velora dialed up to 11.
For real tho.
I snapped so much when caduceus said this like omfg. My parents always look at me weird when I snap, its better thsan clapping and not being able to hear what hes saying lol. But Cad was super ballsy to say that
Oh my god i'm not the only one that poetry slam snaps?
@@remermagic you definitely are not. I do it almost every episode
I just yell like a frat boy
@@sluggy1739 combine the two and become and ascend
Remermagic 69 WOOP WOOP WOOP YEAH BOI *furious snapping sounds*
00:02:03 "And you would know that but you have none around you." *Fjord's creeping smile* I know it's Travis that smirked but I Imagine it's Fjord while Cad delivers that gut-wrenching blow and it's SOOOOOOOOO satisfying watching the student admire his master at work. Major kudos to Taliesin for his 100% kino cleric.
*Spoilers*
LUKE IS 4
I thought he had like 6 or 8! wtf
THATS THE BEST PART! Veth keeps coming home with these EXCEPTIONALLY dangerous gifts like crossbows and fireworks for a 4 year old. Would not be surprised in the least if luke ends up hurting himself or others one of these days
He should be 5. He was established as being 5 earlier in the campaign.
"Hey Fjord, maybe I can teach you to shoot a crossbow, my five-year-old can do it."
HE AND KIRI ARE THE SAME AGE?!!
I always love the moments with the M9s non-adventurer companions hear of their exploits in casual conversation. Like, nonchalantly dropping that you killed a false god and looted thousands of gold last weekend.
C1 SPOILERS
The only people who can properly correlate to and communicate with adventuring parties are other adventuring parties. Poor Yezza had no way of dealing with that, but if it was Percy and Vex they'd be like "oh false gods, true, those are harsh... But just wait until you need to kill your first _real_ god, now _that_ is a bitch!"
i imagine the m9 broke down veth's front door like that video of big bird doing the same to someone else's house
The M9 telling Luke how awesome are their adventures. I can see Luke as a NPC in the next campaign, determined to overcome his mother's deeds
I wouldn't be surprised if campaign 3 is set 14(or more) years in the future, and Luke is one of the party members, trying to uncover the truth of his mother's and her friends' adventures across Wildmount. Might be interesting if Vesper had a reason to pop in as a PC too.
Marisha expression as Sam give Vetch antlers.
0:50 I didn't catch that part during the live stream! That is so sweet, I'm crying...
how tf did you not catch that
@@Znorkas I was tired. lol
I truly love these long pure-rp sessions.
Mighty Nien: an Unexpected Party
Holy Crap! I didn't even think of that! Now I CAN'T unsee it! >.<
Now I want them cleaning Veth's apartment and washing her dishes all while singing 'Blunt The Knives.'
"That's what Yeza Brenatto hates!"
Veth is coming after Keyleth's brand!!!
Now there needs to be a character with antlers in every campaign
I thought keyleth's brand was leaping to her death
@@Feasco to be fair, they were basically gods
The uncles and aunts who are bad influences for the young. Poor Yezza
“Hey want to learn a cool handshake?” Is my favorite part
I want some fuckin' fireworks! lol
*papa facepalms*
The whole part with the m9 barging in on the Brenattos home just goes to show just how much of a family they are at this point (reminds me a little of extended family when we all meet at my grandparents' but like, way friendlier/cooler) it's why it weirds me out when any of them talk of an 'after' because I couldn't not imagine them being in each others lives!
Travis' face journey during Cad's smackdown is 💖💖💖
Hearing the description I was like: "ho I can't wait for the fanarts"
then Laura "ho no she's going to kill them!" XD
This was a good collection from a fantastic episode full of great dialogue. Some honorable mentions for me were Travis asking if they have any coats and Marisha's suspicious eye squints at the owl. 😆
As much as I love this scene for its burn value, there’s also a very important life lesson behind this exchange, one I’ve learned as a teacher:
As you go through life you’ll meet people with whom you’re at odds, who anger you, and who disappoint you. If you want to criticize them, which is a perfectly healthy way to deal with stress caused by that person towards you, the most effective and beneficial way to do so is this. 1, compliment the person on their positive qualities, 2, voice your criticism, and 3, offer a path for growth and change.
And always, ALWAYS use kind language.
the little Percivoice in the back of Tal's head is nodding in approval
Poor Yeza. On the one hand he's got his wonderful wife back, and she's somehow even more wonderful, and he loves her... He just didn't bank on her having five new amazing, fantastic (fuckwit) friends who think it's appropriate to gift his son explosives, and giant fey canines who will blink in an out of existence within seconds and yet somehow have managed to take a dump in his slippers in the mean time, omg. The seven foot bovine-looking friend would be okay, if he didn't seem to take such enjoyment in his role as therapist-enabler.
Ah, the wonderful Mighty Nein. Corrupting a 4 year old in one fell swoop.
Taliesin with those natural 20's in wisdom is the greatest moment of my day
I'm worried for Sam's browser history
This is mighty nein as hell
I love Talisen and what Cad said to Trent here was perfect for the character. From a meta perspective though, he and Trent are two sides of the same coin. They look at each other and think the other is wrong, when in truth, both are correct. Pain can be the driving force that pushes people beyond what they thought possible. It can also shut them down, stifle their creativity and bury them in despair. Likewise, love can build people up from a broken place. Love can teach people they have worth, and in turn lead them to recognize the worth of others. Love can also lead to coddling. Someone unchallenged can become inept, and unable to carry themselves through the burdens of life. Love can lead one to turn a blind eye to abusive and destructive behavior. The truth is, we need pain, and we need love, to be our best selves.
Welcome to their TedTalk
I didn't even see it like an insult or a burn. Cad isn't lying that it was a gift, and him mentioning Trent's status is part of it. Trent is so powerful both magically and politically that the only people he has in his life are various enemies that want him dead or deposed, and allies who are either too indoctrinated or too scared to be anything other than Yes men. Cad is the only one at that table or in his life who is willing to give him bare honesty. That's why he said it was a gift and that's why he said such harsh words to him and ended it with "respectfully".
It also feels like Cad is saying "I will not mourn you, and I'm a gravekeeper".
I just imagine that the moment the Mighty Nein kick Veths door in “X Gone’ Give It to Ya!” just starts playing.
"There was a gold one, but it got stuck in this woman's hand, it was incredible."
Sounds like she's going to have to figure out how to rewrite her own John Hancock.
The fur hat Ashley was thinking of is probably an ushanka
Yea I agree with the idea that Trent will try to become a lich. He doesn't want to die and give up his power.
You can’t die alone if you never die
”I WANT A FCKING FIREWORK!”
Man, with my country's shitty internet speed I always have to watch the episodes in 144p . I appreciate these videos so much cuz I get to see their expressions waaaaaay better despite being on the same resolution. I love these edits.
The best revenge is living well
"That was so tasty"
A man who knows his craft.
When Sam was describing Keyleth and her antlers I was waiting for the punchline. But no, it was just a sweet homage to Keyleth/Marisha.
Caduceus (and Taleisen) is so well spoken and badass.
Mans told someone he’s an idiot and no one loves him or will miss him and was so respectful in doing so like damn
"Did you kill him, mom!?" "Duh!"
cad casts power word kill
Caduceus words were so true he broke trent.
1:43
i always adore how stoked travis is when tal says "may I say before you go..." Travis KNOWS tal will deliver, he's already so into it. that's a lot of faith and love at the table her there. i love CR
The look of horror on yessas face was priceless when bo did the secret handshake. I just chomping at the bit to find out more from last week's episode.
caleb being the best boy/bro ever!!!
Omg i just realized TALIESIN IS WEARING A MARBLE LEAGUE SHIRT OMG OMG.
Marisha's reaction is the sweetest thing I've ever seen ^^
Luc: "Dad, what's a penis!!?"
Yeza, regretting calling it a "weewee" all this time:
Cadeuces gets done talking
Trent: I’m gonna burn down his house
the honoring keykey without nott/veth knowing who she is (in character) and marisha's face is my favorite
That’s a really precious scene with them all around the table telling tales. I could see it in a fantasy movie.
Thank you for curating the faces.
Beau being the chaotic aunt is exactly how I plan to be in the future as an uncle 🤣🤣
The nein messing around in brenatto's house is so wholesome
"What children have learned at the rising of a fist has been to give themselves up to being angry, and despairing. That can be unlearned through compassion, empathy, respect, and patience... and its far more difficult to do so."
The most beautiful put down ever.
Gotta say, perfectly captured the BEST of the rp interactions on these moments *chefs kiss* absolute perfection!
I love how casual they are as a family in roleplay. The second they are all in Veths home its incredible.
> May I say, before you go… I think perhaps you are one of the most powerful mages that I’ve ever had the pleasure to be in the presence of, and for this I would offer a gift, which I think it has been a long time since anyone has pointed out to you that you’re a fool.
> Pain doesn’t make people. It’s love that makes people. The pain is inconsequential. It’s love that saves them. And you would know that, but you have none around you, you said so yourself. You surround yourself with lies and deception, and… I wish for you in the future to find someone who will mourn you when you are gone.
> Respectfully.
In case people want to try the line yourself or just as a quote
Im not up to that point in the show, but I have seen the clip(I still want Trent Dead as if ep 56) But I have happily met Taliesen.
Was meeting luke just the mighty nein equivalent to vox machina meeting vex and vax little sister
EMPATHIZE
Love the 'dysfunction family' energy they have, like, theyre getting by... barely
Don't poke the archmage