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Kinda sad that Dr. Octavius died at the end of the old Spiderman movie. A lot of people seem to forget that without the arms scrambling his brain that he was a genuine friendly guy with high aspirations for science and engineering. Seeing his reunion with Peter and how much he actually cared about him hits hard.
@@ragingpixel0815 Dude, even though I saw it coming, that story-line broke my damn heart.
I’m hoping, if we do get a Spider-Man 4 (Tobey’s universe), it addresses the changes that will’ve happened due to the villains being cured.
I get that it’ll be multiple new timelines created as opposed to “changing history”, as it were… but somehow including a way to show these new universes.
Like, Osbourn is no longer fighting against the Goblin alter ego when he comes back, so he never has that final fight with Peter, thus doesn’t die. What happens next? It would mean that in that new timeline, Harry doesn’t go nuts trying to kill Spider-Man… Maybe Osbourn helps Octavius perfect his sun machine, etc.
Then you have a universe for Octavius. He’d pop back in right before his machine goes haywire, and manages to shut it down or destroy it with Peter’s help, rather than sacrificing himself.
He then takes the Arc Reactor he still had hold of, reverse engineering it to help create a better future for his new timeline.
So much potential for storylines that they could explore…
I know I feel ya there. And yet because his true nature was stronger to resist evil temptation, he not only gained back control, he also achieved his dream.
"I will not die a monster!"
@@BYERE
Unfortunately, that actually can't happen given the rules of the multiverse they have established. Yes, it could be a Tobey Universe but it wouldn't be the same one from Raimi's 'Spider-Man' trilogy.
"You're all grown up!" Gets me every. Single. Time.
He wasn't just talking to Peter, he was talking to all of us who were kids back in 2004 and went to see him again
@@javiersandoval29 Damn man. I mean, idk how crazy it must feel for you if you were a kid in 2004. Means you were born in like mid 90s, right? 93-96 or so? I grew up on that trilogy as a kid too, although I was born in 2003, so the movies are a time stamp of your childhood, and more a time stamp of my birth. Crazy seeing moving like the first Pirates of the Carribean where Johnny Depp looks so much more youthfully. He was about exactly 40 when that movie was relased so 39, maybe 38 when filming, and obviously he's always aged well, but at 39 that's still pretty damn young, and he didn't have to try and look young cause he was still a handsome, perfect skinned devilm I digress, but my point is that movie came out a little over 5 months after I was born, and to see that movie, always a favorite, and see all the cast, from Geoffrey Rush, to Orlando Bloom and Kiara Knightley all so young is just really weird in perspective with my life. Same with the first Spiderman movie and others from around 2003. The movies feel so young, and they aren't OLD by any means, but Johnny Depp is near 60, y'know and 2003 just keeps getting further away. I grew up with those movies that walked so this whole Disney ran, heavily profitable and constsntly fan servicing MCU thing could run, yknow? Hell I loved the first 2012 Avengers, I mean it was so awesome to me that those characters were actually together like that. Now you see it all the time and the luster is gone, and the Avengers are so much different, I mean 3 of their OG members are gone, one is half himself, one is retired, and one is Thor so he kinda does whatever he wants so. But my point is, these time stamps really put your life into perspective, and it's just crazy. Like I said, if you were a kid when Spiderman came out? Damn man that's crazy. Hitting 20 has been so weird for me, and I feel 18 still, and at 19 felt 17, but when I'm 25, or 30? Heavens. Time is a fickle beast. I mean in 5 years idk that the first POTC will feel that old. But Johnny Depp will feel old where he was once young. Kiara Knightley went from a young girl to a beautiful, maturing woman. Orlando Bloom was a young man, now he's got a dad bod and preparing to go over the hill. Wtf man.... Anyways, it's just crazy. Best of luck to you
@@javiersandoval29 yup i remember watching spiderman 2 as my first spiderman movie when i was like 5 years old and now we're all grown up!
Ikr
I thought the same exact thing. I loved he went from brilliant but lazy to all grown up.
Gets me every time when Peter says “trying to do better” 😢
I don't see anyone pointing it out, but that "Trying to do better" line is a callback to when Peter first met Otto at his home.
@@NOITY35 i don’t think anyone at my theater caught it, I was the only one who was like “oh…my…god…:’)”
@@Kenrickwong It hits with a whole different feeling now that they both fully understand each other and respect one another's positions in life. 😌
@@NOITY35 I might be reading into it too much, but their interaction showed how Tobey’s spider man had matured and became more confident. But the inner child in me really wished he called otto by “dr Octavius” instead of just otto
@@Kenrickwong On the other hand though, Peter saying "Otto" might be Peter outwardly saying that he views both of them like equals now. And since Otto didn't challenge his use of his first name I think he would agree. Friends and equals forged through bitter rivalry and battle under horrific circumstances in Tobey-Peter's world who now both understand their own wrongdoings now that lots of time has past. There is just layers and layers...
"I will not die a monster!" And he didn't. He died a man, even a hero who was willing to sacrifice everything for the good of others.
He is the best character in the whole title hands down!
Yeah and now with the power of the sun in the palm of his hand, when he goes back he can use that thing to enhance his ability to control the tritium and create a barrier around it and absorb it into that device giving him a 2nd chance
@@satmtca Who knows, maybe Norman, would have bombed it, since he knows what will go on to happen.
@@christianfrost8660idk because Norman in what if oc still dead
Hopefully him amd Osborn are still alive in their world now that they're cured. They both deserve a second chance, and maybe we'll see how that affects Tobey Spider-Man and Flint Marko when they get back.
3:08 What I love about this is the actual REAL joy in Alfred's face and voice, being reunited in character with his co-star after so many years. Brilliant.
Molina did say he felt emotional being reunited with Tobey and it clearly shows here :)
Not to be a party pooper, but sadly I’m pretty sure those scenes were filmed remotely/separately cause of Covid
@@spartan7465 ruclips.net/video/cAwaajG-tTs/видео.html
Alfred and Tobey filmed this scene together.
@@RobGordonJC to be fair, he doesn't explicitly say that they filmed that scene together, he just says he was happy to see tobey again
@@DHynes5 I could tell
"Why, it's good to see you, dear boy."
My heart just got melted into mush.
He's more like a well - liked uncle or a beloved semi - retired mentor rather than a VILLAIN, for the rest of the movie. LIKEABLE.
That Raimi theme playing when Ock and Tobey meet never fails to make me tear up. I was always so saddened what happened to Otto at the end of Spider-Man 2, getting to see him be redeemed is so nice.
@jeffreypeters2803 says: *That Raimi theme playing when Ock and Tobey meet never fails to make me tear up. I was always so saddened what happened to Otto at the end of Spider-Man 2, getting to see him be redeemed is so nice.*
Only problem is I don't see how Doc Ock can avoid his fate that happened in Spider-Man 2 if he is returned to his universe at the same moment he left it.
He is bound to do what he did in Spider-Man 2 again in order to stop his machine because there was no other way to stop it.
Dude yessss
Doc Ock has the most strongest storyline out of the 5 Villains in this film.
@@BooBop1987: It’s like he was the main villain of This movie and he got the most screen time. He even interacted with all three Spider Men.
@@jackruzzo1813 Main Villain is still Green Goblin who gets undermined by Doc Ock.
3:00 the way Doc Ock/Alfred Molina was subtly speaking to the audience that grew up with Raimi Spider-Man as well as Peter with this line gets me every time.
One of the biggest Big Lip Alligator Moments that ever happens in Movie History.
@@BooBop1987 I get the reference but have no idea why you think it applies here. This is NOT an unexpected incursion from out of nowhere of something with no obvious connection to the plot. These two were both integral to the plot of this movie and had been in it for 2 hours up to this point. And the line itself is not a meaningless time-filler -- it calls back to a movie many years before and helps tie up important plot points in this movie.
What great reunion from Spider- Man 2
@@turtlepower4lee it didnt just spoke to Peter it also spoke to us, kids nowadays dont know why we teared up and got emotional with that line when in the Spider-man 2 he died but not as a monster he died as man and as a hero. He played Doc Ock excellently showing that he is not really evil he was controlled by a machine but he is good.
@@jccabate7626 After all Doc Ock has the best storyline ever out of the 5 Villains! That's for sure!😊
Tobeys and Alfred’s scene literally spoke to an entire generation for we are actually now indeed all grown up and trying to do better each day. It was damn good to see them both again.
Yeah, that's for sure!
Therapy for the soul right there
I know I'm not the only one that was happy crying when Octavias saw Spider/Tobey. "You're all grown up" hits us true spiderman fans right in the heart.
And that's the reason why that Otto has the best storyline ever out of the 7 previous characters from the past Spider-Man Films.
You damn right it hits in the heart Where's the Kleenex at😢
We all are grown up now. I was only 7 going on 8 when Toby's first Spider-man came out.
It's uncle Otto, the loving and caring Uncle that we lost due to the darkness taking hold of him and not getting to see him reconcile with us before his death. This scene hits hard for us as we were kids when we first saw him, I think I must've been 19 when Spidey 2 came out... Damn I'm now nearly 40 and have a kid of my own, but in this brief moment I'm taken back two decades ago...
I was 6 when the first Sam Rami Spider-Man came out and I definitely feel old!
Tobey is so great. Always sounds so sincere and genuine.
Yesss
And he is such a Gentleman for this film!
BULLY MAGUIRE: Am I a joke to you? ( LMAO 😂 so we're gonna talk about that time? )
Friendly in the film (as Peter Two), not so much in reality… 😒
@@thetalltitan2235 how do you know that as in reality
"The power of the Sun."
"In the palm of your hand."
That was the best thing I've seen in the theater. Doc being brought back after his character arc was thought to be completed and showing him that his dream had been achieved in the MCU, and nobody even noticed.
He got this feeling of thinking stuffs differently. He didn’t have to make an actual star to produce sun like power. ❤❤❤ Brings back memories.
And him realizing his dream has come true and in a tiny device. His mind must be blown.
@@Kal-EL_Voltahe's probably both impressed and awestruck at the same time.
Remember, his OG demo reactor was both huge(compared to Tony's chest reactors), and still unstable.
And then he finds out that someone in another dimension managed to achieve his life goal(albeit through a different method), AND was able to make it portable, and the man was barely trying the first time.
As a man; is he jealous? A little, maybe, yeah. But he's throughly impressed and intrigued as a fellow scientist. Imagine if he found out that Tony's first model was "built in a cave, with a box of scraps".
@@duelgundam thats how you know Octavious is back, he's not filled with rage or jealousy... just curiosity at how it was done.
@@ChristmasCrustacean1 That's character building, bringing back a supposedly DEAD character then having him catch up.
Dr Octavius is arguably the most loved villain in the trilogy
But truly the best character is the whole title Movie! Hands Down!😊
Doc Ock is my fav spider-man Villains Comics , Games and Cartoon and Movies
Ock is the most loved while Goblin is the most praised
What ?norman sacrificed the most
Because he's not a villain, theres a reason people are so afraid of A.I. in the real world.
Alfred and Tobey’s chemistry is still amazing, and watching Otto and Peter reunite is beautiful.
That why Peter 2 and Otto has the best Developed ever for the Spider-Man Saga.
Kinda makes me wish there is a sequel where it's Spiderman and Doc Ock fighting crime together
@@PliskinYT I would pay to see that movie SO. MANY. TIMES.
@@PliskinYT That will be a dream come true!
Spider-Man 2 released in April 2004 and they reunite 17 years later like old friends.
If only Stan Lee were here to see this movie... He'd be damn proud
Amen
😢
Same here
Something tells me that he IS proud 🥲
Indeed
"You're all grown up" *laughs* "How are you?" and I just start crying. For me that was the best part in the whole movie.
It's the chuckle and beaming smile that sells it. He doesnt know where to start, and truly wants to know just how he's been. I always love when a typically milquetoast expression can be genuinely meaningful like that.
I liked the way that Andrew & Max are discussing about a black Spiderman, almost a Miles Morales Easter egg thrown in for good measure
In "Homecoming" one of the people MCU Spidey "interrogates" is supposed to be Uncle Aaron, and his license plate has the number of Miles' first appearance, so thankfully they are kinda thinking about him
You mean Homecoming? Uncle Aaron was played by Donald Glover, but it was a blink and you miss it reference.
@@bobbyfeet2240 boyz
They usually put easter eggs in each films to a possible sequel. That way, people will go back to these movies and rewatch it
they're incepting the idea. Like how at the end of the animated film, they have Miles say "Ok lets get this right. My name is Miles and I am the one and only, Spiderman!" since they did like 6 origins with each Spider person saying it. Then they have Black Electro say "oh man there gotta be a Black Spiderman." Classic filmogrophy, getting us ready for it.
"You're all grown up...how are you!" "Trying to do better." Those two lines. Just those two lines carried such a weight not just as a nod to the second movie but to every one of us who grew up with Tobey's Spider-Man. That line hit all of us right in the heart. Literally like seeing an old friend after so many years. I'm not ashamed to admit I cried when I first saw it.
You have nothing to be ashamed of my friend. I too grew up with Raimi universe version of Spiderman. Always has and always will be my favorite live action version of Spiderman. The nice added bonus Doc Ock is redeemed once again and alive this time too. Respect to the legendary OGs for live action.
Nothing to be ashamed of, I for one also cried, and I am 40.
Im 28 dayum time flies. I was only a kid when spiderman 2 came out.
@@christbenitez8797 I'm 65 & " I Wish Those Days Would. Come Back once More "
I don't think I'll ever get over the fact how Alfred Molina can turn from a villain to the most loving father figure in an instant
That's how he really is: Otto was Peter's friend and mentor before the accident turned him into Doctor Octopus.
@@WarGrowlmon18 He acts like a beloved uncle or family friend.
This is hands down a top three marvel movie of all time. you could just feel the emotion and the goosebumps throughout the whole movie. another thing I liked about it was it shows that no matter how many times someone stumbles and loses the way. It doesn’t mean they’re lost forever.
Agreed
charles xavier impresive
@Poweltav i would say endgame no way home and the first iron man that started it all
Nah. The plot is really poorly written.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p It's not always about the plot, Russian fellow... IT'S ABOUT THE METS, BABY, LOVE THE METS! Alright, get a home run, baby, let's go Mets!
This was a great way to bring the character back without ruining his redemption from Spider-Man 2. And I always get choked up hearing Elfman’s theme for Tobey Spider-Man get recreated. I’ll always argue this movie was more than just nostalgia but when it is a nostalgia moment it’s nostalgia done right.
Speaking of redemption. If you watch this movie very carefully at the near end point in the film. There is only 3 out of 7 characters from the past Spider-Man Films. Who did redeemed themselves the most. And they are Peter 2, Peter 3 and above all Dr. Octopus. Plus they are the only 3 good characters of the movie who does very good storylines in the whole title film.
It's also a nice and tidy moment in of itself; of course Doc Ock can easily overwhelm and contain Electro, his tentacles were designed to contain a fusion reaction. If anyone was gonna be able to stop him, it's Octavius.
@@alastormedial Absurd. Remember how Peter defeated him in Spiderman 2? Yeah, he made him stab the electric wires and that pretty much took him out. Also, remember what Electro did with Octavius in this movie earlier?
They kinda cheapened his redemption by making Peter fix his AI instead of him overcoming it himself by sheer will
The thing that makes it work is that it's not nostalgia for nostalgias sake. It wraps up a lot of loose ends for the older movies, especially the Andrew Garfield ones, but ultimately it all serves the main plot about the MCU Spidey. The older Spidermen never overshadow Tom Holland even though they are given a ton of time and development. It was a very well done trick.
When Otto said “you’re all grown up” that hit me because it wasn’t just Otto talking to Peter he was talking to all of us who grew up with all of them Tobey was my childhood, Andrew was my teen years, and now Tom is my Adult years
A very big lip alligator Moment!
The best part that I love about Dr. Octopus the most is that he is the only Character out of the 5 Villains who has a very good flesh out and a well developed Storyline from start to Finish. That is truly about going on a Journey of heading to a new World where he had never gone before. Where he is truly fish out of Water and he learned about the New World for a short period of time for 2 whole days. When he is both a bad guy and a good guy at the same time. Something that all the fans have completely forgot about to talk about for the whole title film of No Way Home.
oh, i politely disagree. Norman Osborn had a definate arc as well...From a relatively well-meaning but success-focused at the expense of family business tycoon, to the Jekyll and Hyde persona of the Goblin, who was his drive to succeed amped to literally insane levels...his depiction in this film in the brief, (how brief is up for discussion) time where the Goblin let Norman drive for awhile was a facinating counterpoint to once his dark half took control again...just like in the first movie, he had a GREAT respect for intilllect (remeber the scene in the first movie where he was so impressed by Peter, who clearly had the brilliance to succeed...after chastising his son, who did NOT...shades of the Goblin peeking through) and proceeded to live up to his mantra "go for the Heart." Much like Otto, Norman MEANT well..but accidentally shackled himself to a monster...albiet with a few degrees more of foolhardiness at delibrately using the serum on himsellf, wheras Otto's accident WAS purely accidental)
Fish out of water... More like drowned fish in the water. You know, because he drowned with his machine in Spiderman 2?
No?
Okay. I'll see myself out.
@@Hei_Darkfire Yeah, I know that but I am talking about the one in No Way Home.
@@alexsolomon7991 My main problem with Norman is that he doesn't have much of a storyline in the film. He is just a here and there character for the whole title movie to tell you the truth.
_"Trying to do better."_ still hits hard.
That line reminded Otto that his old mentee Peter, despite how much he's grown, is still that "brilliant but lazy" kid he took in.
For me "Trying to do better," means "My life is really hard but I'm trying to make the best of it," but instead of saying, "Life is hard," he says, "Trying to do better." Self-doubt and depression are part of the character and Toby's Peter has had time to grapple with it.
2:47 the moment in the movie I felt old
Doc meeting Tobey-Spider was such a great closure
With Doc Ock being my favorite Spider-Man villain I’m glad he got a lot of focus this movie. Him teaming up with Dr Strange was a team up I never knew I wanted
And Doc Ock is the only good character out of the 5 Villains has the best storyline ever for this film. As for the other 4 Electro storyline is very darn decent at best. The Green Goblin Doesn't have much of a storyline to follow. And as for Sandman and Lizard Man they have no storyline at all.
@@BooBop1987 At least those 2 survived their movies xD
Sandman has no storyline at all? Dude are you twelve years old? Haven't you seen spiderman 3? @@BooBop1987
@@BooBop1987 Goblin's story line was literally "Fuck shit up and have fun doing it." In every medium he's ever been in.
@@megaman37456 a non - magical, low key Loki variant.
That exchange between Tobey and Alfred’s Otto is such a heartfelt love letter to Spider-Man 2. The theme, the “trying to do better” line. It was so beautiful to watch these characters come back and reunite with each other like this, it really brings all 8 films together.
3:06 I feel like Doc Ock isn't adressing Peter here, but us, the audience
I am good but where to get those arms
Otto's friendship with Peter is so nice and wholesome
More like a Father and Son Reunited!
@@BooBop1987 wish i had a real father
I love Otto's role in this movie because he was a genuinely good guy who wanted to use his science to better the lives of people. It only makes sense that once the arms were dealt with, he would side with the Spidermen.
He is truly the best part about the movie! Hands Down!😊
@@BooBop1987 Alfred Molina seems terribly UNDERUSED. Fun fact : I don't think that it was his 1st role. I saw him as the Peruvian guide who got Indiana Jones to toss the golden idol to him in exchange for his whip in " Raiders ".
The “aw man I’m sorry” for not being black is hilarious
Miles Morales : What, am I your idea of a joke ?
2:40 there is his name Miles Morales
Hobie brown: *YOUR SHITTING ME RN ARENTCHA*
@@alfiecoolkidgamezshush
Sigh…. Let’s do this one more time
And Spider-byte.
It’s amazing how many of the actors here are Brits not using their native accents: Tom Holland, Andrew Garfield, Benedict Cumberbatch, Benedict Wong, Charlie Cox, and Alfred Molina.
Great Fun Fact to be found!
My god 2:54 I cried in that scene especially when the "Responsibility theme" plays in the background it felt like a class reunion seeing these two legends on the same screen again since Spiderman 2 back in 2004. I remember ditching school just to see Spiderman 2 haha good time.
2:03-3:15 This entire scene was wholesome! Andrew Spider-Man reconnecting (no pun intended) with Max, who only ever looked up to Spider-Man and was someone Peter did genuinely care about (Goddamn Eels indeed lol)
And Tobey Spider-Man with Octavius, You can tell how happy Peter was to see Doc Ock again. After their time as enemies, Peter only briefly saw Octavius return to his senses just before he originally sacrificed himself. Now Peter was able to have the chance to see the man he once respected again and Otto getting to see the “brilliant but lazy” student he once knew grow up to be a man
It always makes me smile that Andrew’s Peter apologises for not being black.
Poor guy goes through so much, and still feels the need to not disappoint people, even over something he has no control over…
@@woodrobin That's for the breakdown. I didn't know about most of those :)
it's basically saying "Sorry this film isn't as good as into the spider-verse, but they got there first and we did the best with what we got"
@@shoblette961 No, it's hinting about Miles' debut in the MCU somewhere down the line.
Don't bring stupid one-upsmanship into this.
@@BYERE I didn't bring anything in, i just watched em play follow the leader.
I remember opening night, when Max said “There’s gotta be a black Spider-Man somewhere out there.” Half the theater yelled “MILES MORALES”😂😂
2:55 The best reunion. I got goosebumps just seeing this part of the movie. Knowing he was my childhood. Nothing beats the old ones😃
I love that scene so darn much!
You know, when Otto says “You’re all grown up,” while he is referring to Tobey of how old he has gotten since 2004 to 2021, it can also be interpreted to the audience because most people who saw this film grew up with the Raimi trilogy for those were born in the late 90s or early 2000s.
I was born in 98 watched Spiderman on TV. To watching Spiderman 2 with my Brother in Theartres to watching the Tobey's last trilogy with the family was amazing.. I still get choked up about Harry's death. God seeing Tobey again as Spiderman was a childhood dream being relived again. Gotta thank Tobey for coming back. The best Spiderman I've ever known
Spider-Man 2 came out in the 2004 so if you were born in the late 90s to early 00s, you'd have been a toddler to maximum 5 years who couldn't even remember the movie. It was actually a reference to people born in the late 80s to mid 90s who would have been in between elementary school and high school age at the time it came out and would have remembered it.
@@xOmniCloudx Damn.
Born in the early 90s and I can certainly say that there's no way you Gen Z kids remembered the original theatrical release of Spider-Man 1 or 2.
I was born in the early 90s so I did grow up with Tobey
"There's gotta be a black Spider-Man somewhere..."
Well Miles has been referenced back in Homecoming, so maybe we'll see Ultimate Spider-Man soon.
Everything about this movie is the purest fanservice done _right_
The magical thing about this movie is: Yes, they went straight for the jugular with the fan service. But they expanded on it rather than just vapidly and easily reusing the old lines/call-backs. Allowed for proper, respectful continuations or even resolutions to the stories, character arcs and interactions we knew and loved from the earlier movies.
The theme of Andrew’s and Tobey’s just makes me tear up always. Also Andrew cares about Max telling him he’s not a nobody, but somebody to someone. Let’s hope Max becomes Andrew’s sidekick in the future
Max could be like a Lucius Fox surrogate.
2:55 no matter how many times i watch it, i end up tearing up.
My parents divorced when I was 9. My two younger brothers were 8 and 6. We were brutally poor and couldn't even afford cable TV, so all we did was watching DVD's back and forth. My youngest brothers favourite movie were the Spiderman movies. Hearing Alfred Molina telling Tobey that he is all grown up puts tears in my eye, since I always think back to those days and wish we could go back. We had to bury my youngest brother one and a half years ago, when he was just 20.
That moment he said "Leave them, they're mine" when he was talking to the Peter Parkers.
It's such a warm and wonderful sight that after literal decades of waiting (both in universe and out), the two other Spider-Men were able to make amends for their biggest mistakes. It feels nice that they had an unambiguous win for a change. MCU Peter was able to make the right decisions learning from his counterparts.
I think the fact that Doc Ock also was able to be saved and redeemed is wonderful. Truly fantastic.
You got that right Buddy!
2:51 me meeting my highschool teacher who had the most influence on me after 10 years
This scene proves that we lost someone who loved or favored us if we lose our heart, which is why it can be called reunion; Peter found Dr Octavius as the good man he always know ❤️
After all their relationship in Spider-Man 2 is the most closest one ever in movie History,
@@BooBop1987 Otto kind of takes a paternal pride in Peter, when he sees that he has been brilliant & NOT LAZY.
2:55 Ah, the sweet, sweet music, and honestly my favorite super hero portrayal ever by the wonderful Tobey Maguire. Growing up on those movies, even though I was born just after the first in 2003, was amazing. I was probably 4 or 5 when I saw Spiderman for the first time I can remember, probably younger given I told my parents in detail about how I wanted a spiderman themed 2nd birthday party, so you never know. But I remember watching that on DVD for years, same with the 3rd but didn't watch the second until I was a little older. But Tobey was always my guy, and he always will be, cause childhood is a beyond special time that will always be sacred in my heart. Spiderman isn't my favorite superhero, and I don't really know who is, but like I said, Tobey Maguire's spiderman is my favorite superhero ever. Thanks for making my childhood awesome. I'll always love hearing that music 🎶 😃
So touching to see these two friends again.
“There’s gotta be a black spiderman out there somewhere”
Miles Morales: **raises hand**
hEy.
@@jaredruff9823
Nah, it’s like this: *Hey.* 😏
Bully Garfield and bully Holland: no .
Watched this scene a bunch of times and I always get chills when I hear that Spider-Man 2 music
I will always get emotional. Octavius, especially the Raimi one, is one of the Spider-Man characters I sympathize the most: he was just some guy who lost his mind to a failed experiment (I know it's kind of the same for the other villains, but I guess what makes Otto special is that he was a really nice guy and knew Peter on a personal level). Getting him to see Peter "all grown up" with a sane mind is one of the best things Marvel's ever done.
One of the best characters ever who has a very great and unique Storyline.
Gonna cry?
Gotta admit that when Otto and Peter have there little talk I teared up in the theater and what got me was the “trying to do better”
Peter 2 and Otto has the most closest relationship ever in movie history!
2:27 ahahah i didnt remember this but it held up well
0:08 I love how his theme kicks in.
I love how at 1:19 you can slightly hear doctor strange s theme
A very different take on Otto from the comics and one we all love
I wish that we got that type of Otto from the Comics Books!
I always like the Otto and Peter reunion since from Peters perspective Otto died years ago. And now he's there. Alive and cured.
For the past year or so there's been a really great fanfic series being written that basically explores Norman and Otto's survival and the changes that it caused. In the story, the villains are displaced and then return to that universe with dual memories basically. Well aside from the ones from Peter 3's universe obviously. For most of them it wasn't too bad, but when Peter got displaced and returned, he had 20 plus years of different memories to sort through. One of the things that was changed was Harry's fate: without Norman's death, he didn't become the New Goblin and Otto was able to build a machine to remove and destroy the symbiote which saved Eddie Brock too. When Flint returned cured a few years later, they learned the truth about what would've happened to Harry if they hadn't been saved. Near the end of that story, Eddie broke out of prison and teamed up with some crazy hunter guy who eventually killed him. Before dying, he warned Norman and Miles Morales that something was coming that Venom referred to as The Progenitor.
The most recent story reunites everyone: by the time that Peter 2 returns to his world, Otto has come up with a transporter to bring them all back together again with 20 years of work and the help of that Arc Reactor. They even figured out how to restore MJ, Ned and Strange's memories without breaking the spell over the world (Happy was out of town when they did it and so he was unaffected) with the help of Otto, Norman, Max, Olivia Octavius (Otto's counterpart from Peter 3's world) and Wanda Maximoff. However, they're currently up against a being called Knull who seeks Otto's transporter. Knull is The Progenitor, the creator of the symbiotes such as Venom who sends them all across the Multiverse for his own evil purposes. Currently, the gang is scattered across the Multiverse due to an attack from Knull with the gang currently including the 3 Peters, MJ, Ned, Strange, Norman, Otto, Max, Wanda and the symbiote that the Sony version of Venom left behind which the MCU Peter has dubbed Edgar. Edgar possessed Peter briefly, but Norman got Edgar out of him. Since Edgar subsequently surrendered, Peter decided to spare and befriend him instead.
"The power of the sun... at the palm of your hand." I spoke the latter just as Tobey said it and I my tearducts just burst at the nostalgia. It's like a core memory is being rewritten, refurbished.
"The power of the Sun in the palm of my hand"
The Only character out of the 5 Villains who have finally reached his goal at all last!
I cannot stress how, of all of the antagonists spiderman has faced over the many multiverse and over the many many years. Otto Octavius has always been my absolute favorite. Alfred Molina is my favorite portrayal of him and there's just such a charm he brings to Otto. He really is a good guy who wanted to do good. He lost himself to his science and to see him even for a short period, back in control is just my favorite thing about him ever.
This is the type of relationship you see in the shows comics and games with Spider-Man and his villains, it was a great touch to add that in to this movie. People forget that these were once genuinely kind human beings and they cared about people just like Peter does. And Peter was also very lucky to be close with a lot of them such as Otto and Curt Connors. It’s so sad that these people wind up paying the ultimate price in their respective universes so it’s nice to know that they now got that second chance they deserved so badly years ago.
Yeah, they knew most of these guys personally. Max hero-worshipped Peter 3, Connors was his mentor and an old friend of his father's. Norman was the father of Peter 2's best friend while Otto was his friend and mentor before the accident that turned him into Doctor Octopus.
The reunion between the Spider-Men and their respective cured villains is so heartwarming🥲
Except for Tobey and Norman because, of course, never had any dialogue between the 2
@@benmunn7593 You're right. It's a shame they never interacted😟
I really like Otto in this film. Actually, I like everyone in this film. It's all done so well. It's like everyone working on this movie understood that a movie like this was one they couldn't afford to mess up. Couldn't afford to disappoint the fans that carried nostalgia from nearly 20 years of Spider-Man from Tobey to Andrew.
Also, Ned being able to do something by accident that originally took Dr. Strange almost dying on a mountain to figure out? I wonder if Dr. Strange is going to take Ned in and teach him the mystic arts. The kid certainly has an aptitude for it.
Octavius saying "You're all grown up. How are you?" felt like he was asking us--the old fans of the Maguire-Spidey. I suppose we're also trying to do better.
Doc Ock’s voice when he said Peter
I loved this movie. To me, this is Spider-Man.
Helping people.
Anytime I see Octavius and Peter meet in forever I always shed a tear. Brings back my childhood
JOIN the club. Seriously. I may feel older than dirt, but that's a price of membership.
Otto telling Peter “you’re all grown up” can’t help but feel like he’s talking to us kids that were 8-9 years old back in 2004 when SpiderMan 2 came out. I was 8 in 2004. And I watched this scene here at 25. Thank you Marvel for this.
2:32 this is genuinely funny
“Trying to do better”❤
Imagine a Sam Raimi Spiderman 4 with Doc Ock being Spidey's Sidekick!
No, that would be stupid...lol. Not to mention, Ock is still dead in Raimi Spider-Man's original timeline. He would have been sent back to a now-alternate timeline where he lived.
Partners* lol
One problem for a reformed Ock is that he’s already a wanted man in his reality, due to his crimes in 2004.
@@Tesseract.2012 Baring in mind I would naturally assume when Doc Ock returns to His universe with Tobey I would assume He would return to either the moment He left OR after His drowning in the river some how. But if He returns in modern day that means He is returning almost 20 years after His prenounced death in the river therefore many people would of likely forgotten Doc Ock or would not know who He was. Just those involved in His fights like the bank, train, and cafe. Apart from these few public moments Doc stayed in hiding with His machine.
I would imagine Spider Man being popular from the 3rd film that He may be able to work with Doc Ock to redeem His publicity using Tony Starks spare ark reactor to create reneawable energy.
Honestly they really need to do a Spider 4 film with Tobey and an Amazing Spider Man 3 with Andrew. I think Andrew even confirmed He would be happy to do one final Amazing Spider Man film as well!
I really want to see that happening!😊
2:12 andrew Garfield is right
Dafoe and Molina....the reason why the movie didn't suck
2:48 Those lines always make in tears.
i love when ock met with tobey, ock see tobey as a student who look up to him and tobey see a man who had changed for the better
I love that moment too!
I really thought dr Octavius would say “brilliant but lazy” 3:11
I can imagine it.
0:20 I recognise that smile. It's the same one Otto had on when he told Peter to use Poetry to capture a girl's heart.
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When he called him “my boy” that hit my soul
Dr. Octavius is the one with the best ending here because not only he's been freed from the controls of the robotic arms, but he also got a device that holds so much power just like what he always wanted 🥺
2:47 Oh my god, my tears!!! Nostalgic in 1000%, I feel back a kid one more time in my life 😭❤️
No Way Home is one of the best movies ever made. The entire movie was done perfectly. Such emotion, such great storytelling, and not to mention the out-of-the-world acting from the entire cast. Everyone brought their A-game. I am so honored to have seen this in theaters opening night and to think I wasn't that big of a spiderman fan before this movie.
The plot is terrible and several characters are dumbed down.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p You're worse than SM Lotus people. And I feel sorry for you not getting a job as a film script writer.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8pBut everything else is perfect. I didn’t care if they were dumbed down or not. It gave all of us pure nostalgia. :)
@@user-xx6vy9ri8pwell OP's 69 (nice) likes to your whopping 3 tells a pretty good story
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p By several you really only mean Lizard and Sandman, which was only because the actors for them couldn't appear to have shoots of them in human form. So I'd like to know what you mean by dumbed down?
"I'm Back To Being A Nobody."
Loved it when Max said that. Can't help but relate to it too much. I'll say that to everyone.
Let's just say that he doesn't know how to be himself for this whole title movie!
@@BooBop1987 He did ask Peter not to make him a murderer, so he wasn't completely compromised.
2:53 seeing them makes me glad I grow up watching Tobeys Spider-Man
Doc Ocks redemption was the best part of this movie.
Oh Heck Yeah He Did! That's for Sure. And the is the only character out of the 5 Villains who did redeemed himself the most.😊
0:20 the moment Octavius became a hero!
He deserved it
I got choked up/teary eyed starting when Peter said "Otto...." and the Raimi theme played in the background.
Easily one of the best movies I've ever seen,
3:01 It’s so good to see you, dear boy.
Even in the comics, Dr. Oct respects the hell out of spiderman/peter. It shows even more in the ultimate comics.
Both of them respect eachother for very different reasons.
Oct will always be Peters greatest enemy and friend, because he knows his secret, but will never break his trust, its such a strange relationship built on respect of eachother.
Was anyone else worried during this scene that Electro might fry Doc Ock's new inhibitor chip & he'd be controlled by the arms again?
But that conversation between Tobey Maguire Spider-Man & Doc Ock was awesome.
Honestly, no, I didn't even think about that when I was watching the movie for the first time. I was too in awe over everything that was happening lol. But looking back on it, yeah, I can see why some might have been worried about that possibly happening.
I was definitely wondering why he didn't just throw every ounce of electricity he had into Ock's arm, guess it was meant to be too fast for him to think of that.
Also I had to wonder if that was spiderman saying he was trying to do better, or Tobey himself, given his history.
So perfect.
Before seeing the film which reveals that Ock along with with Electro were transported before their deaths, I suspected at first Electro would be the cause of Ock going rogue again.
I was worried too. But so glad the new chip must have been reinforced when it was made. But I always liked the idea of the friendship between Peter and Otto. Even in the 90s cartoon Peter was encouraged by Octavius as a kid. He mentions being a kid at science camp and an experiment he tried blew up in his face. The other kids laughed but Otto encouraged him, telling him that science must be pursued. Then as an adult Peter helps the police when the Hardies were kidnapped and Octavius wanted a ransom. Peter talked to Otto explaining how he had read all the papers he had published. The idea that they could have that friendship as two men of science was really cool.
Not really given that Tony's iron man tech that Peter used had been shown several times to be extremely resistant to damage from electricity.
I rlly like when doctor Octavias says all grown up. He went from brilliant to lazy to all grown up.
Doc ock was cool as a villain. BUT I LOVE HIM AS THE HERO❤
But also the very first unlikely Ally ever in MCU HIstory!
Peter and Otto is the best part.
You got that right buddy!
The scene with Tobey and Otto catching up always gets to me.
I love that scene too!
The reunion we all wanted and boy did we get it!
That interaction between Tobey's Peter and Otto feels like finding your favorite teacher from high school at the supermarket and casually cathing up
Alfred Molina is so good
i had a feeling tobey's spiderman had really tough times in his universe. and i felt that all over again ever since raimi verse ended.