Destiny 2 Conspiracy Theory (Secret New Exotic)
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2024
- Bungie just dropped the Into the Light reveal stream and the I think they are going to drop THIS exotic in their next reveal
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EDIT: welp...
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or D.A.R.C.I :))))
it does give thunderlord. We had this back in plunder and it gave cuirass, a set of armor, Tarnation, and thunderlord
@@syd6654 that might have been cause the theme of the season of plunder was arc 3.0
What about anarchy? It fits with the whole, giving a taste of raid weapons.
I like how people are actually excited and coming up with conspiracies again. Hopefully that lasts
I just hope the executives dont fuck with the devs again. But thats hopeful thinking. The ones who did the whole layoffs and not cutting on their own bonuses are still in their position. They will try to pull It off again
It's better than having a Winnie fan base.
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 Didn't they miss expected profits by like billions???
@@StormA7 what's wrong with Winnie the Pooh? :(
@@channelhasbeensuspended3986 Depending on the Region of the U.S "Winny" is spelled "Winnie". I'm from the south so "Winny" is spelled "Winnie".
I really doubt we will get a brand new exotic, at most I see them dropping Red Death into the game early, as it was already confirmed for TFS and they did hint that by this point Shaxx just had to take out the "forbidden" weapons as a last resort now that we are being invaded by the pyramids, although by now I assume those forbidden weapons were meant to be the returning pinnacle weapons.
Khvostov would have been a genius move honestly, it's so fitting as the update is called "Into the Light" and Khvostov was the first things that was there when we went... into the light.
Ehh they specifically didn't mention "exotic mission rotator" they mentioned "exotic mission content"
I'd also guess Red Death, confirmed for Final Shape already and probably has a quest/mission attached to it. It's also the only weapon that was banned/forbidden by the vanguard, apart from Crimson.
The other returning weapons were only sunset, not banned lol
Although Khvostov would be really cool, let's hope they do something more then just the 3 fire modes, if they bring it back as an exotic.
pretty sure we already know red death will be a "season pass" exotic, i don't remember exactly where I saw this but I'm 99% certain of this
@@darkwraith5546 Yeah, it was in a TFS livestream they did a while back. There are gonna be three "chapters" which will replace the seasons, and those chapters had a D1 exotic tied to each one. I don't remember the order, but it was Kvhostov, Red Death and Dragon's Breath, but then we ended up getting Dragon's Breath very early because of the delay, so there's a chance Kvhostov and Red Death will come to the game sooner than expected as well.
Also, unrelated but they said in that same stream that Red Death will be a solar weapon as to not overlap with Crimson.
@@Florian.Huboldhey man just a heads up im pretty sure it was confirmed to be the season pass weapon for next season 👍
When they talk about having more secrets/surprised for the next stream, I just assume that means they'll end with a new trailer for Final Shape. We're about due for the marketing cycle to start kicking off.
Yup
They teased it about exotic missions. So maybe returning old exotic missions with craftable rolls?
@@jackbrowning1567yea a lot of people are assuming the whisper mission is coming back cause of the new ornament coming to the store
I thought it could be Dreg's Promise since it's an Arc weapon with the "Gift of Thunder" chest, but we'll see.
If they do, I REALLY hope it comes with the knife as a melee.
For some reason that’s also where my mind was. Classic D1 weapon, really nothing else like it.
@SpaceManFive Oh that would be good! Imagine a Warlock or a Titan running with a knife.
pretty sure the gift of thunder gods is the exact same as it was, that is thunderlord for the new players
@@samplebample1194Yeah. That's what it'd probably be. But I do hope they give Dreg's Promise the knife if they bring it back sometime.
Now THIS is how you scizo post.
Getting Khvostov back seems like it could be a story beat in final shape. Like entering into the traveler and finding you lost all of your equipment, the first and only gun you come across is the exotic Khvostov which you use to blast you way to your gear and enter into the story proper.
Red Death on the other hand is something they could plop down into this update, would make sense given the context with Shaxx releasing "banned weapons." And we already know it was one of the weapons they were working on along side of Dragon's Breath and Khvostov.
honestly thats a really cool idea and would help given were supposed to be the underdogs, starting off the final battle on the back foot, reminds me of the destiny 2 vanialla opening! i really hope they go this route
Really hoping khvostov comes back as I would really love to go into final shape with it. We started with it and I hope we get to end with it.
It’s coming back in Final Shape
Khvostov is confirmed for final shape, but so was dragons breath so it’s possible it could come early, personally I hope so. I want my khvostov.
@@blueleader8323 Dragon's Breath was never meant for TFS. The disclaimer text that appeared when they showed it off say otherwise
@@NeuTraLZero_ Do remember that we are at a point where we are supposed to be in final ship originally. It has long since passed the showcase and things can change.
@@NeuTraLZero_ hey I don’t mind being proven wrong but could you give me a time stamp I just looked at that part in the showcase and couldn’t find an text mentioning it not being for final shape.
I want Zhalo Supercell back. My very first memories of Destiny are watching my dad run through the cosmodrome with the Zhalo Supercell and ever since then I have been in love with this universe. I never got the Zhalo Supercell in D1 and I would love to have my Destiny experience come full circle before The Final Shape.
If the zalo comes back I'll die
If it does come back there's a very high chance it won't be the same due to Riskrunner existing
I’m pretty sure Riskrunner and Centrifuse killed any chance of Zhalo coming back
@@optumis1433 I thought the same thing until we were told that Red Death was coming back.
I think my ideal desire for the exotic Khvostov is to take the idea of the customizability it had in the first game and crank that to 11. Imagine being able to choose it's element, fire rate, having access to a massive pool of the enhanced perks to to min/max it. It's entire gimmick of being an exotic is that it can be a generalist weapon and is what you want it to be.
Don't make me want something i know I won't get
My theory is that it'll be craftable, but with way more options than other craftable exotics
Would be cool if it could change sights too
I think it'll be more on par with that craftable Exotic Hakkë Pulse we got back in Seraph, but obviously still have the customization of the original and be able to choose if you want it to fire in bursts, semi-auto or fully automatic. Choose the firing rate, magazine size, etc.,
If I had to guess, the "patterns" will probably be the firing-mode of the weapon, starting off as a full-auto assault rifle, than unlocking and being able to choose between a burst-fire or a semi-auto build. The "barrels" option will probably be how you select the fire rate, that way you don't have to spend any major resources to swap out your pattern and barrel.
Magazine options will probably be the same too, prioritize whether you want a bigger magazine, faster reload speed, or additional stability and longer range; which will probably just be like AP and bouncing rounds.
The actual Exotic Perk for Khvostov was just +2 Mobility, so it'll probably be nearly identical to the Mida, or more than likely closer to the Mini-Tool and only grant faster movement speed when aiming down your sights. Seeing how craftable Exotics have a catalyst, I imagine it'll just be the Exotic perk from D1 and grant bonus mobility and also have the clean version of the optic. Kind of like you're "fixing" up your crafted weapon that you just took into battle to upgrade it.
Not sure what they'll do for Perks but they'll probably be pretty generic. Rangefinder was one of the Perks for Khvostov in D1, so that'll probably be a second column Perk. First column options will probably have like Sustinence and Rewind Rounds.
I don't see them making it THAT crazy and it'll just be on-par with the other craftable Exotics, but slightly different in its own way because Khvostovs main thing was obviously the whole "pick your firing mode and firing rate to make your own gun" gimmick.
NLB is less likely to you than ICEBREAKER? They would reissue pocket infinity before they ever let Icebreaker see the light of day again. That gun is the bane of balance
It was the bane of balance, and they'll probably never bring back weapons that generate special/heavy ammo out of thin air by themselves.
In comparison we already have a perk that can generate basically unlimited special ammo, like discord. And nobody says that this completely breaks the balance.
@Florian.Hubold discord requires a kill to activate and only refunds ammo on kills. Hardly a comparison to be made against a gun that just refunds ammo indefinitely
Telesto is the only thing protecting us from the return of Pocket Infinity
I feel like they should combine the two together the primary of NLB but the “magazine” of ice breaker and make it a really annoying scout that can two tap
Special reload at full super when out of ammo and you get half the reserves back? They alreay have the framework for super-consuming weapons (Ager's Scepter), I feel like they should lean more into that design space. In PVP it would give some shots, not half reserves, that would be insane
I think I'm the only one that wants The Patience and Time sniper rifle back...
That was my first ever exotic, I wouldn’t mind :p
You are not alone
Gotta respect the peggle music
I noticed it IMMEDIATELY lol
Moment of silence for the realization that we'll never get another Sleeper Sim situation
Maybe. But with the definitive story coming to the close, only leaving the Vex as a major developed threat and a change from "seasons" to "chapters" as we move on, they're going to need a lot more engaging and different types of content to keep the live service moto going or this game is going to die.
I know everybody has said that last part, but realistically it's true. With no planned sequel, Sony has Bungie by the ball and chain, being paid to start helping with other Playstation projects and a shift in focus to start working on something new, the only way Destiny will continue on as a series is by continuing to update and add meaningful content to the game. So I can see quests and little "explore and find for yourself" type activities like the Sleeper and Whisper quests, making a return and Bungie giving players some ways to re-explore the existing locations and just branch off from the core activities.
I can see TFS having a secret special quest too. Witch Queen kind of failed with that "bounty board" gimmick for the craftables and they never really added on to that idea, but they very well could in the future and do something with it. Like finding clues and little easter eggs, to "attach" to the bounty board, piecing together a big puzzle that'll lead to some kind of quest or mission where you unlock a new weapon or item. They really gotta start innovating while also bringing back old concepts and adding on to existing abandoned features; now that we've seen and done pretty much everything Bungie's employees have to offer and can think of.
Nah. They literally told us, during the stream, that giving us more than 12 weapons is too hard. And all of them are either already in the game or reskins
I feel like we have a bit of an Occam's Razor situation here.
The simplest answer tends to be the right one.
That, and taking bungie's modus operandi over the past 6 years (and the fact that this update wasn't planned and done in an extremely short timeframe) further reinforces the reality that, it will be the exact copy paste gift of the thunder gods that we got in Season of Plunder.
I would love to be wrong, but as you very well said, Bungie tends to make a lot of predictable patterns.
I think maybe we could see Red Death brought back as a secret because of the fact they delayed Final Shape and probably had enough time to work on it. It’s how we thought Dragon’s Breath and the rocket pistol would be included with Final Shape, but like I said, due to the delay, they probably didn’t have time to craft an original exotic for the season 23 pass, so they probably just “fuck it we already finished Dragon’s Breath let’s just slap it on there”, also considering the fact it looked finished in the reveal. So they might be doing the same thing with Red Death. But hey! That’s just a theory! Like breakfast being the most important meal of the day.
The stuff for red death doesn’t look all that complicated, just granting restoration and cure so they probably finished it a while ago by now.
@@morganpriest7726 Exactly Unless it probably is more complicated then we think. But like I said, that’s plenty of time.
@@samuelstrautmann63
Well now I'm just imagining "Red Death 2.0" as a combination of itself and Monte Carlo. XD
@@morganpriest7726I'm pretty sure it's a full-auto Solar too. They basically turned a Solar Warlock into a gun and that gun looks and feels like the default assault rifle from D1.
Kind of don't want it early though because just like a good chunk of the D1 meta sweats, self-res Warlock and Red Death was all I ever used. I killed Atheon in a 1v1 with that thing, I kind of want some quest or something to do to unlock it.
@@wxl2562 pulse, red death was a pulse rifle using the standard auto rifle model
Considering Khvostov *was* announced for Final Shape, it isn’t too much of a stretch. Who knows, we know we ARE getting it eventually either way.
The Kvostov in D1 lets you choose fire modes, RPM, and so on. It'd be interesting if the D2 Kvostov let you choose its element, so we could have a Hard Light-style gun in the Primary slot that swaps from Stasis to Strand to [Red Subclass] for build flexibility.
I mean, I want more than just "Top Slot Hard Light," but as a starter perk, that'd be handy.
If they do bring back a destiny 1 exotic its 100% red death because we're dealing with shax and "banned " weapons from the crucible so what better gun to bring back than the first gun we ever hear of being banned. Plus I'm pretty sure red death was already confirmed coming back at some point anyway
I can see them bringing back No Land Beyond as an Aggressive Frame Scout Rifle, but with a twist to it to reflect it's old Sniper origins - it'd already be a primary so the infinite ammo part wouldn't be a problem, and it wouldn't need to be weighed against other Snipers in terms of balance, either.
I love the fact they made edge transit of all things one of the best things you can acquire now.
I'm five years on this community, and i swear the biggest cycle this community have is the supercell vs risk runner, It always starts with "i miss the supercell" or "I want the supercell back" to what i get's responded that the risk runner is better anyway and the conflict starts all over again 1 month later.
I really don't understand why but this is the perfect paradox for the destiny 2 community
God i hope that zhalo comes back. One of the only things that would make me excited to play again.
Btw! for anyone wondering where the sprite came from from 3:02, its a bow coming from the game Monster Hunter (from a nargacuga)
i could see it, we also didn't get an auto rifle in this collection so that fits there too. i could also see it being anarchy, i know you can get it from the monument but it cost a lot of spoils and would fit the goal of the brave collection with not needing to own certain bits of content and what not
If it IS anarchy, or acrius, imma be ecstatic, because I do NOT wanna have to deal with repeating encounters over and over again.
@@elvenbuttress Same! I've been grinding Spoils for Legend of Acrius with Vow's first encounter chest, and I'd appreciate any method of getting said exotic without having to use the max stock of Spoils the game allows you to keep!
@@elvenbuttress agreed. all the countless weekends and long nights repeating the same encounter over and over again for the CHANCE of getting an item that for whatever reason won't drop. if the drop rates weren't so cringe it wouldn't be so bad. i swear the game still bugs out and just doesn't drop what it's supposed to after awhile with out hard resetting your game and getting a new cp
The Destiny 1 exotic coming back will be, of course, Super Good Advice. It will have the original exotic perk plus it will have voice lines which it says when you have it equipped. The voice lines will range from load out tips to real world advice on money management or applying to a different job when you want to earn a more competitive rate based on your experience. The exotic catalyst improves range, handling and allows you to disable voicelines.
I think they'll add the new supers that were scheduled for final shape in the update,it would make sense due to them already being playtested and completed also it's called into the light. Would kinda fit the theme if we got new abilities
In the Final Shape showcase, an exotic khvostov was mentioned so it wouldn't be much of a surprise but it certainly could support your theory.
I like this theory - I was wondering why there was no auto rifle in the Brave set.
Knowing this is like xur dares of eternity we never thought we get a fan favorite exotic gally, maybe we’ll get another fan favorite exotic
my theory is very simple, Black Spindle. you get it from Whisper mission, special ammo, lower damage per bullet than Whisper
"Gift of the Thunder *Gods*" is the actual name... slightly irked by leaving out the last word there haha
6:43 you talkin bout me there bud? I kid, love your content keep up the good work.
You can buy the whisper of the worm from the monument so it won’t be that. It’s probably icebreaker
Along with the fact that they wouldn't break stasis crystals, they also were using shatter dive and winter shroud. Both of those aspects do not readily make themselves known like the other two hunter aspects. Plus, Bungie said they will be working on the harvest aspects for stasis, so specifically avoiding that might not have been an accident.
think it'll be red death lol cause the whole theme is bringing back weapons that have been put away or like crimson case "don't exist"
Super Good Advice would fit onslaught and crucible. But not many people remember it fondly. Or maybe Patience and Time 🦭 because we had to wait so long for the final shape.
It's probably just gonna be Red Death because they said "banned in the Crucible" in the first stream and none of these weapons are banned in the Crucible. The Red Death was showcased during the Final Shape livestream but also was supposed to be released during the original window for Final Shape back in February but also the disclaimer in the video said that some of the weapons might appear before the release, hence, why we got Dragon's Breath ahead of time.
I'm guessing Red Death, Dragons Breath was announced for Final Shape, released early, Rocket Sidearm is the same, this whole thing is "Weapons that were banned from the crucible are returning because we'll need them to fight the Witness" Red Death's lore is that it was banned from the crucible, and I think it's the only weapon that was canonically banned.
If you need a break glass in case of emergency exotic it's gotta be Icebreaker.
this also kinda fits (at least somewhat) with how travellers chosen was released, in the final lead up to a big expansion.
They have to bring back No land beyond at some point, right ?
I mean, kinda? There are only so many actually unique exotics left that they can pull from D1 that will hype people up. They have been making the D1 reprised exotics interesting despite the community's hate. Look at G horn and Dragon's Breath. Both were said to be weak on release then once people learned how they worked and built around them they are insane
They would have to completely rework the ammo economy for No Land to come back. Same thing with Ice Breaker.
In a podcast with Chris Proctor, he said that they'd need to make substantial changes to the ammo economy if they were to bring things like Icebreaker or No Land Beyond back.
Well guess what? Theyve reworked the ammo economy with the special meter. Now they can bring NLB back
@@haydenw7981 I mean NLB uses primary ammo back in D1. If they brought it back now, it’d be a sniper with infinite ammo
I think they give the gift of thundergods because it was free and in the past, so they give a opportunity to newer players who didn't get it.
at first i thought you were gonna say the two alternate element thunderlords, but yes, I too was thinking khvostov
The strand exotics I thought of were final warning, wish keeper, and navigator. I didn't even think to include quicksilver since it's only strand if tou slot the catalyst
Back in the days of Rise of Iron when we got exotic Khvostov the first time, it was pretty cool but suffered from being, to put it bluntly, basically a legendary that eats your exotic slot. We have some exotics that get that critique today, but these days legendries are tuned way up from back then in the diversity of what types of perks they get so there's many that look like a D1 exotic, which is more forgiving of todays underwhelming exotics but really doesn't bode well for an exotic that felt like a D1 legendary. Fortunately however, we now have long reload exotic effects as something of a staple.
In D1 Khvostov's exotic "trait" was having a bloated perk tree that let you customise it, change it's rate of fire, and choose whether it fired in full auto, semi auto, or in bursts. The issue was you had to enter your inventory and manually change it if you wanted to swap firing modes; using D2's Hardlight & Revision Zero as a frame of reference, a D2 Khvostotic could have a long reload to switch between firing modes.
Not certain what else they'd staple to it. It'd be super cool if it actually had all 3 anti-champion effects built in, say overload auto, unstoppable pulse, and barrier scout, but if we're being realistic they'd probably never do that because it'd be "too useful" as a catch all primary for dealing with champions even if the gun was otherwise pretty mid. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if it'd create some big complications having a gun with multiple antichampion mods built in since they already don't stack in the cases where they could. Also while not a hard rule many of intrinsically antichamp exotics need you to jump through a hoop to get that effect, e.g. Devil's Ruin is only unstoppable when fully charged, le Monarch I believe only overloads on perfect draws, Revision Zero's only antibarrier on the sniper shots. So a Khvostov exotic that has anti champion mods built in would probably have a prerequisite to activate them.
Question do I need to buy this dlc (pre order light fall) or is it free?
Red death is also an option for this cause they talked about it in the announcement of final shape
I think it will give the new exotic John Bungie-McWitness.
And it increases all vendor and cash store costs by 25%
1:05 is it me or there is a whisper of the worm behind the guy on the far right of the couch
My guess is that the next stream will cover whisper possibly returning, the PVP maps, and then some final shape marketing. We haven’t gotten any news on final shape since the destination trailer months back.
While I would love to think we would get red death or khovostov early, I don’t think it’s likely as they would likely have to replace that drop in final shape to match expectations.
I think you miss the point that Thunderlord was the first exotic weapon we saw in destiny going all the way back to the 2013 E3 demo. Maybe in their minds they see it being special enough to be a big send off.
I was thinking Red Death if anything. The theme of this update is forbidden weapons that Shaxx is giving us to use out of desperation, and what weapon is more forbidden than Red Death?
Ooh good shout .. a week ago I would of said gjallarhorn variant
I think we can throw out a lot of the leaked or supposedly data mined stuff at this point. They said the tower was coming back, the forges were coming back, etc… and clearly that’s not true. But with what we have seen, we will certainly get the whisper mission back. Maybe also the hawk moon mission too? Who know about the zero hour mission as well.
Another Exotic that they could potentially release in "Into the Light" would be Red Death. Remember as it's also an "Illegal Gun" in the lore of destiny like Crimson, however they already stated that being a gun to return as well and no longer holding any restrictions for against the witness, that would be perfect for self survivability against him.
My guess is Red Death. We already know they've been working on it, and they dropped a bunch of hints about getting "banned weapons" back.
Fun fact in the storage area in the hall of heroes the OG solstice of heroes statue can be found
If they give us a new exotic with this content update, my money is entirely on Red Death. Remember a big theme they said in the first steam was about how Shaxx is essentially opening up his arsenal of some of the most strongest guns that have ever existed, guns that are frowned upon in the Crucible or not allowed in the crucible anymore, that type of thing... WELL, check out the exotic description for Red Death:
"Vanguard policy urges Guardians to destroy this weapon on sight. It is a Guardian Killer."
Sounds like EXACTLY the type of powerful crucible killer that would be kept locked away in Shaxx's arsenal until the time where it was absolutely necessary to use again.
i still held high hope for NLB, with crucible change lately like lower bodyshot and increase headshot, special ammo eco, etc.
i think this is the right time for NLB to come back
I think it might be Red Death. It's very nostalgic, a popular request to bring back, and it's already coming back post-Final Shape (which would be rn if the delay hadn't happened).
Also, Stasis is 100% being buffed. In a TWAB a while ago they confirmed there was 1 more round of Stasis buffs coming, mainly focused on giving more functionality to Harvest aspects and adding a new Stasis effect temporarily called "Frost Armor" to solve the lack of survivability issue.
I love these conspiracy theory videos their hilarious keep up the good work
Given the amount of talk about bringing back banned weapons for the final shape, id love to see red death come back. It would fit the description and would definitely be nostalgic
Wonder if we could get abbadon and nova mortis, the void and solar versions of thunderlord
As someone who recently started playing the original Destiny and having the quest I feel like it might just be crazy enough to work!!!
Drove me nuts his stasis usage
That’s a good shout or not forgotten as an exotic and tbh I wouldn’t mind either
Oh wow that makes sense I was thinking red death
So we have an update that is bringing back old top tier and fan favourite weapons that story wise, shaxx took and held them in his personal collection. If there is going to be a "NEW" exotic, running with the same theme there is 1 very specific exotic that checks all those boxes. It was a top tier pve weapon, a fan favourite that people have been asking for back since d2 released AND it was last scene in the opening mission of d2's vanilla campaign strapped across shaxx's back after he took it from our vaults. I hope we are getting Raze-Lighter
Whisper is probably the most likely due to new ornament coming out. But red death, khavostov and icebreaker all seem like possibilities
In my clan, I have become notorious for somehow predicting stuff that happens for d2. Such as trident glaive, strand bow, Cayde6 coming back (that was me joking before the final shale reveal)
I kind of got the sense that they were bringing back the vaulted exotic missions (Whisper, Zero Hour, Harbinger)
It's almost a fact that the whisper will come back as a craftable exotic with it's mission, as well with the other exotic missions like they did with presage, but if there will be a D1 exotic coming back, it really probable that it will be red death, because of that "banned weapon" they said in the first stream, but the khovostov is also a good choice, both weapons were announced for final shape, as well with dragons breath, and we got it sooner with the season of the wish, so both exotics are actually really probable to come back
GIMME EXOTIC KINDLED ORCHID 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Because we really need more fucking hand cannons.
@@RolandTheJabberwockyYeah. We have enough hand cannons. And this is coming from someone who loves hand cannons.
Based hand cannon enjoyer. Can never have too many. I want a full load out if Hand Cannons! Hand Cannon primary, Hand Cannon energy, Hand Cannon heavy!
Bungie has already confirmed that they're going to be bringing back the Kovostov. It's coming in the The Finall Shape. There have also been some leaks that claim that the gun will make a return as a crafted weapon.
I’d be willing to bet that the catch-up crate for new players has a new exotic attached.
More likely than not, we’ll get a quest/Mission for Red Death. Seeing as the whole update is about Shaxx and using any means necessary to fight the witness, why not pull out THE banned crucible weapon. The gun Shax has talked about keeping under lock and key in other lore entries…
But yeah… maybe it’ll be anarchy or Cloudstrike in there this time, but there’s a 99% chance it’s an old gun.
Hearing that there's gonna be secrets and the next stream is gonna be the crucible map pack makes me think about the supposed secret on that subway tunnel d1 crucible map that may not have actually ever existed
I'm pretty much 100% sure khvostov is coming back. He mentioned the gun in passing during the Livestream to the tune of something like "I worked on the khvostov"
When is next stream?
They already said stasis is getting changed sometimes soon. They didn't specify but it'll probably be the Final Shape before we see anything substantial. I hope I'm wrong. I want to love Behemoth again.
Is it weird the most intriguing part of the whole video was to me the potential stasis buff mentioned at the end?
Like Khvostov is cool and all, and I definitely think we're getting it back in either Into the Light or Final Shape. Buuut Stasis is my favorite subclass from the concept but falls flat in the current sandbox (PvE)
Personally I thought they were just referring to something like Final Shape gameplay or trailer as a "surprise". I would love to see both Zero Hour and the Whisper with their exotics being craftable but I think it will just end up being the Whisper of the Worm craftable. Hopefully we can put something like Vorpal on it
Someone also pointed out that specifically "banned" weapons are coming back so they think red death will be brought up to the into the light update and perhaps craftable. The way I see it in terms of exotic missions we have what? Whisper and Outbreak left. Noone likes weekly rotators and would like to be able to farm at any time as well as noone really NEEDS crafted Whisper. Crafted outbreak would make sense thematically but we'll see.
Didn't they show thunder Lord in the clip or was that just a place holder type thing?
Dev says ‘there may me more in store’ and you lose your mind
It would really make sense for them to drop Khovostov at this time, especially BEFORE the Final Shape, to give us the great old weapon that began our journey.
It'll be a shame if they don't do that :(
The guy playing also really drove home the he was the one to put the Khvostov in the beginning mission.
They have said on multiple occasions that Khvostov would be released with final shape it’s most likely thunderlord again and if they did make a returning weapon from d1 it would most likely be dregs promise I do remember hearing that it was gonna be brought back as a rocket pistol at some point
Does nobody remeber Thunderlords brother and sister? Nova Mortis, and Abbadon are directly tied to the Thunderlord lore. Not too much of a stretch to have those be the return in the heavy exotic. Sure it's not likely, but I figured if we are speculating then why not bring it up.
just listening in the background and i hear the part of an arc weapon from d1. DREGS PROMISE! one day it will return
I think it's likely we are getting more than 1 exotic mission (given his wording at the end of the stream "exotic mission content, and the craftable weapons available to them." "Them" implying multiple missions) If we are getting multiple, I don't think there would be a brand new exotic mission. I don't think they would have time to build one. I do think it's possible that the gift of the thunder gods exotic is different this go around
I felt like Red death would be the weapon to come back but they already got a bunch of pulses in the legendary weapons, but I feel like it would be an auto rifle exotic with how many you pointed out. I will say would be cool to have that hint that they might be working on special ammo auto rifles lead to Zhalo Supercell being a speical ammo auto that jolt's on hit or after X ammount of hits/precision hits. One final thing they clearly want these weapons to be from Black Armory tech...so maybe a return to Niobe labs? O.O please bungie.
when they talked about shaxx bringing back weapons that were banned because they are so bad, i thought of red death, because in d1 its literally the description of the weapon.
As much as I would like it be an energy weapon, right now in exotic collections there's a new slot for a kinetic weapon
Nah, it'll be Red Death. It's been hinted at with the 'illegal weapons' talk and we already know it was coming in Final Shape alongside Dragon's Breath and a rocket sidearm... which are now both in the game.
I don't think I follow your logic, but I can see them bringing back khvostov. Being the most iconic weapon it would make sense to bring it back for Into the Light, that said I think it'll be a new exotic quest. With how out of place the Gift of the Thunderlords chest looks I think they just copy and pasted in from the HELM. Would not surprise me if they even forget to buff the Light level on it.
If they do bring back a D1 Exotic for this event, I feel like Tlaloc would make the most sense. Everyone's talking about potential Arc weapons and knowing Bungie, I highly doubt it'd be an Arc weapon. Also just for a short event before a big DLC that'll have a solid handful of new and returning Exotics of various elements, I think a Kinetic Primary would be the best neutral option before we get Khvostov. Again. But "Gift of Thunder" screams "Tlaloc" to me. That or it's literally just going to be another care package like it was before and it'll include an existing Arc weapon that's also new player friendly.
Can't be Riskrunner, we already have that, shouldn't be Thunderlord because they already did that and probably isn't a previous season's battlepass Exotic.
Zhalo Supercell would be cool, doesn't make a lot of sense, but it'd be neat if it were like how it was in D1, being a Primary Arc in the Kinetic / Primary slot.
Khvostov makes the most sense, but also doesn't at the same time because I think they know a LOT of people would be upset if a confirmed TFS Exotic (and another potential craftable Primary Exotic at that) would be given to us early in-place of any other weapon they could add. Icebreaker is too OP and I don't think will come back, ever. Would love to see Patience and Time like I've seen others say, Dreg's Promise would be cool but imo also wouldn't make a lot of sense compared to other listed possibilities.
My money is on Tlaloc if we ARE getting a returning weapon from D1, final answer for me.
So, how about if they brought back Khvostov, but gave it the hard-light treatment and it can cycle (or be crafted) between Stasis/Strand/Kinetic?
He also refused to demonstrate the strength of the Magnificent Howl x3 stack at the end of that last lost sector. I'd be willing to bet it's Whisper they're bringing back, though I'm not sure how they would tie it back in lore-wise at this point. Who knows.