Sanda Guy Throws Taekwondo 14 TIMES!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- A very cool sanda vs taekwondo match from Hong Kong. In this style vs style match, the TKD person gets throw 14 times before the referee stops it. Let's watch and see how this match goes!
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0:00 Commentary to match
2:51 Outro 
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Friendly neighbourhood Judo black belt here! I know Sanda and Judo are not the same, but throws are throws! So here you have a translation to Japanese of all the throws, with timestamps and links to videos!
0:04 ko soto gari to me (small leg reap/sweep) ruclips.net/video/jeQ541ScLB4/видео.html&ab_channel=KODOKAN I have no angle and the camera position is dog poop, so bear with me on this one
0:15 uki otoshi (floating drop) ruclips.net/video/kiLCfJk2mEA/видео.html This one can be either technique or brute force
0:18 Morote gari (double leg reap) ruclips.net/video/BHLQS4K85bs/видео.html&ab_channel=KODOKAN This is a variation of the double leg, not the standard
0:33 Sukui nage (scooping throw) attempt ruclips.net/video/QWdv1E9vg3o/видео.html He didn't grab him right, so it's difficult to achieve
0:36 Kuchiki taoshi (Inner single leg) ruclips.net/video/ZNL47q1aJNY/видео.html&ab_channel=KODOKAN This is used as a kick counter
0:41 This one is interesting. It reminds me of utsuri goshi (changing hip throw) mechanics ruclips.net/video/4pQd_bEnlf0/видео.html&ab_channel=KODOKAN, also looks like he's lifting him up to a single leg. I need help with this one for the name in Japanese!
0:55 Sukui nage attempt (same as 0:33)
0:58 Morote gari (double leg reap) ruclips.net/video/BHLQS4K85bs/видео.html&ab_channel=KODOKAN
1:04 His is just a bear hug and a push, it'd be too posh for me to try to give a Japanese name 🤣
1:25 Morote gari (double leg reap) ruclips.net/video/BHLQS4K85bs/видео.html&ab_channel=KODOKAN
1:32 Yet another morote gari or double leg takedown
1:47 Yet another one of those morote gari
2:00 FFS, too many double leg takedowns or morote gari (In my mind I'm begging for interesting throws to happen)
2:10 Tani otoshi (valley drop) ruclips.net/video/FIm6V2sAgb8/видео.html&ab_channel=Ochiru We use this one in Judo to counter when we get our partner's back (ffs, that didn't sound too well) when in combat
2:18 Another double leg or morote gari
Well, my thoughts. I do think that throws on a mat instead of in concrete are not as effective, and it has to be followed by some sort of ground grappling or ne waza to finish it. Some arm bar or choke. That's why our traditional judo brothers and bjj brothers are amazing at it. In my dojo we studied 50% grappling 50% throws, so we were at least somehow competent. In this case the tkwd guy was so concussioned because he was thrown into his knees, so he couldn't move properly at the end of the round.
What was tkd guy's issue? Tk kicks are amazing and scary, but you have to go for them and create proper space. The moment you go closer than kicking distance, pray you're not grabbed by the grappler. I do believe that a decent Taekwondo guy would destroy a grappler if he got a head kick, but closer than that they are doomed.
A pleasure to help you people with my thoughts, feel free to correct any names or to leave your insights! Oss!!!
Single and double leg are most effective takedown if the rules are MMA. It's really hard to execute a judo throw without push pull reaction due to the striking . Usually your opponent will try to break the clinch and punch you. I think best clinch is a bodylock and over under clinch. Neck and arms clinch isn't that good because your opponent will break it easily.
He doesn’t know not trying to be mean he only knows Muay Thai moves
Those moves are in many grappling sports including judo and wreslting. I would say the throws are much more reminecent of wreslting as opposed to judo aside from the executed tani otoshi. Imagine how your judo would look like if you wore gloves and couldn't grab in the traditional sense AND without a gi. Not only that but you wouldn't gain points if your knee touched the ground too in sanda during any of the throws. You would a ton of PICK UPS like you do here. The way pick ups used to be performed in high level judo even. This guy in particular seems to prefer high crotches and doubles. I would say in the realm of grappling. These are not judo style throws despite these same throws being similar and performed in judo. They look more freestyle with the higher stance of judo.
The kicking art vs. the kick-catching art .
Who would win? Hmmmmmmm.
This right here is one reason why I think wrestling would be a big part of most martial arts that are combat-focused, including arts that use weapons. It's just so easy to get into wrestling range if you're determined, and MMA strikers had to figure that out the hard way.
I don't know how this tall guy can't do proper distance management. It's not like you can survive a TKD round without it.
if my big telegraphed looping overhand rights were consistently being slipped as my opponent entered for a double leg i would simply not throw big telegraphed looping overhand rights
or maybe i'd feint one and knee him in the face (not sure of the rule set here)
Damnnnn, what year was this filmed? The 90s? Taekwondo guy getting dominated
Edit: So this was in I believe 2011. Hong Kong Martial Arts Association posted about this in their news journal January issue of 2012, regarding the competitions at the time. And that was the 6th Asian Youths Martial Arts tournament and also the 11th World Martial Arts tournament held in 2011.
6 Gold Medals, 8 Silver, 3 Bronze won by Hong Kong for the youths tournament. 3 Gold medals, 6 silver, 2 Bronze for the world tournament won by Hong Kong at the time.
All > Tkd
@@BTCanti-scami wonder what the korean armies even used when they were fighting
I feel bad for TKD guy. I don’t think he’s sparred with anyone not TKD before. He’s feeling like nothing he does works and he’s getting punished for everything he tries. And getting smacked into the floor is painful and exhausting even if you practice it a lot, let alone if it’s your first time.
It’s easy to be a back seat driver and talk about what he could have tried. But when you’re in a situation like that, with adrenaline and frustration both in overdrive, it’s almost impossible to take a mental step back and be creative and adaptive. I feel his pain.
0:43 That's a Tai chi throw right there
I had to laugh so hard through the entired video😂😂 ty sm
Please review buakaw vs rukiya anpo
as a guy who does both, sanda is far superior in the realm of kicks as well. tkd doesnt allow leg kicks whereas sanda guys know how to kick thru blocks and make their kicks hard to catch. tkd is very limited even in their specialty of kicks
TWD have low kicks but they’re too dangerous/ineffective for tournament fighting which is heavily restricted. It’s also, in many schools, reserved to point sparring where getting in close means your opponent will score against you (even if their technique doesn’t have any power behind it). Techniques like low kicks, knees and elbows exist in Taekwondo,but were reserved for self defense classes which were always practiced under much more controlled conditions than free sparring (mats, half speed etc.).
After Taekwondo became an Olympic sport everything
changed, A lot of Taekwondo techniques were restricted and TWD became a point sport.
If Sanda one day becomes an Olympic sport it will also have many restrictions.
I think the TKD guy became gasssd out from falling and getting up.. if you know how it feels to constantly fall and get up again after it’s exhausting
Just to give context. This was suppose to be a match with no grappling or takedowns but the Chinese guy kept throwing the guy down and the ref or no one did anything about and the Chinese guy won. Felt sorry for the Korean guy.
TKD guy is quite resilient. Good for him, I suppose.
Yeah, those are some big gloves to be throwing people with, but he handled it alright.
Can you chek on Ignacio Caplonch? he is a tkd based kickboxer. he is old now but in his early fight he displayed a lot of taekwondo techiques.
On it!
Knowing just one style is okay if you are a Boxer because Boxing is the sport that makes the most money in planet, Now if you are going to fight mixed martial arts you have to know a little bit of everything.
*That's why Jeet Kune Do is so useful with limitations such as no groin kick, no knee kick and no eye jab.*
@DouglasGomesBueno Boxing doesnt make the most money.. and that money is not for every champion
Can't see how anybody can look at this and say kungfu doesn't work. Tae Kwon do with a sturdier stance and a good front snap kick could counter what we see here though. Like what we saw on another video.
I studied Kung Fu for over 10 years. Then I took up Grappling. Now I know a bit of how to fight.
@@mordi2537Kung Fu it's 90% Grappling Sanda it's a Inferior style of Kung Fu.
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lhsanda is not even consider kung fu by some just as shuai jiao chinese wrestling and this 2 are more effective than most. Cause they fight for real and do sparring that makes a difference
@@flowrepins6663sanda is definitely kung fu, it's Modern kung fu. When people hear kung fu they just want the narrative of them getting beat up.
@@flowrepins6663I remember these takedowns and floor fighting from" Alan Lee's kungfu Wu Su" decades before the era of the cellphone. There's even a Song Dynasty painting of a Lei Tei match with one kungfu man gorilla pressing the other over his head ready to throw him off the platform. It's "ancient kungfu".
Sanda guy is also much smaller than his opponent . Respect .
It's very easy Takedown a Pure striker I'm 5'9 and my Brother 6'4 when we spar I always Takedown him he's more of a Boxer and I trained Judo in my childhood.
Is the Sanda Fighter Takedown a Black Belt of Judo of his size that would be more impressive.
Jerry, have you ever run across any fights like these where a judo guy ever did really well?
Check his video where he reviewed a boxer fighting a judoka.
Yes. I got you. I'm going to show you a judoka entering a wrestling competition.
@@FightCommentary sounds interesting
Judoka Yoshihiro Akiyama beat two professional boxers in MMA, one being heavyweight Francois Botha.
If the person doesn't like training Grappling it's ok he can fight Kickboxing, Boxing or just focus on Taekwondo competitions but to fight MMA it is mandatory to train Grappling.
ahh i feel bad that he got yoink'd so much 😅
I am from Hong Kong and I am native in Chinese. This is neither Sanda nor TKD. Red is a muay thai fighter who has some sanda experience, while blue is a "戰拳道" guy. That is basically a martial art invented in Hong Kong, which mixes Jeet Kune Do, TKD and some other traditional Chinese kung fu.
Is jeet kune do even legit?
@jmgonzales7701 Of course is legit, but when you heard or read somebody has mixed JKD with other stuff is not legit at all 😄 real JKD doesn't need to mix to anything.. is Simple and Direct. Just Tommy Carruthers and his instructors teaches real JKD, the intructors of Ted Wong (he was the last student of Bruce Lee) are the second best option.. they are the most close to Carruthers
@@jmgonzales7701 Why would you not consider JKD legit when Bruce Lee has written so much about it?😂
@@user-kk7eb9xq4n bruce lee is a fraud. Who has he fought?
@@Egg_of_the_King oh he was definetly a mythical fighter an undersized fighter who will loose to bigger guys who arr much more skilled than him.
The sanda ruleset is distilled from cultural norms on throws. Any part of the body but the feet touching the ground? You're thrown. Throwing your opponent cleanly with no control/intent to follow onto the ground has combat applications. But throws are down how they are in sanda to suit the ruleset.
As sure as death and taxes you can count on TKD guys defending their sport no matter how many times it’s proven worthless
Depends on the rulesets I suppose. A sanda fighter was also throwing Andy Souwer all around, but under K1 rules Andy would still outstrike him.
I don't think that was a legitimate fight. Pretty sure it was arranged; a lot of things don't really add up on either side of the match. That or the big guy just absolutely lied through his teeth while filling out the entry forms and then went and bought himself a blackbelt on Amazon or something.
tkd guy failed in a very basic concept...keep the distance and use his light jab kicks and settle for a strong kick....i watch the half of the video he try only get close and punch and even after 7 takedowns he don't get it.
As usual no jab and or posting - weak defense.
Taekwondo is the suckiest martial art i seen in the ring is always getting beat up. The idea of taekwondo is wrong, in a real fight you would kick low in leg, knee, nuts. Is faster and harder to block, grab or dodge.
You might have a little bit of a negativity bias. Some of the best kickboxers and mma fighters of all time have a taekwondo base. Stephen Vick comes to mind if you want to see some really good, very obviously taekwondo style kickboxing at the highest level
Look for Eddie Bahena. He's amazing and TKD based.
@@FightCommentaryYes I think I've seen him first from your channel or another commentary one, very inspiring. I did tkd my whole life and got into kickboxing a couple years ago. Always looking for ways to implement tkd into other martial arts. This may be a weird thing to say but I think it has helped my Judo a lot, especially in newaza. Being so flexible in my legs and light on my feet has helped me contort out of some weird positions I don't think I could have otherwise
I've always had this theory that the kicks from Taekwondo are best used with sword in hand. Although TKD was created only recently during the 20th century, but many of its source arts like the kicking art of Taekyyon for example, were martial arts based on battlefield arts from when ancient Korea was still divided into 3 Kingdoms. It would explain why they focus more on training kicks as they didn't have to worry about hand strikes since they were using swords to block and strike up close while using kicks in between sword strikes and during a battlefield melee where multiple enemies are present.
@@johnlloyddy7016This is a fascinating theory. I've been fencing saber for a little...gotta ask someone to try this with me haha
Don't even try to show off that's cheapest martial arts made in China, Santa, kung-fu... all the fake legendary made in China 🇨🇳. 😁😃
Can bro even fight anymore lol. I can see hesitation illuminating in your face rn
When China kung fu bad but i no english:
@@charless3108 You have real skill issues for not possessing an ability to comprehend English
@perndoe I had been learning thai boxing since I was youngboy, an elementary school more than 50 times my record of fighting. Right now they call " Moui Thai "
You write like you got punched in the head too many times.