Muay Thai Champion Rates 7 Muay Thai Fights In Movies And TV | How Real Is It? | Insider
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- Eight-time Muay Thai world champion and WBC Muaythai Hall of Famer Miriam Nakamato rates seven Muay Thai scenes in movies and TV, such as "Ong-Bak: The Thai Warrior" and "Raya and the Last Dragon," for realism.
Nakamoto breaks down the accuracy of Muay Thai techniques in "Power Rangers Jungle Fury" (2008) and "Ong-Bak: The Thai Warrior" (2003), starring Tony Jaa. She looks at the realism of defensive and offensive tactics in "Raya and the Last Dragon" (2021) and "Furious 7" (2015), starring Paul Walker. She also looks at the realism of Muay Thai training and traditions in "Street Fighter II: V" (1995), "A Prayer Before Dawn" (2017), and "Kickboxer" (1989), starring Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Nakamoto has been a Muay Thai practitioner for more than 20 years and has produced a perfect 16-0 record to date. Her background in other martial-arts includes kickboxing, boxing, and Brazilian jujitsu.
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Disclaimer: This video features martial-arts sequences performed by professionals. Please do not attempt to recreate or reenact any stunt or activity performed in this video.
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Most people wouldn't know Muay Thai if not for Tony Jaa and Ong Bak..dude's a legend
If your a fan of muay Thai I highly suggest you watch samart Payakaroon if you've haven't before the man is a true legend in the muay thai world
Tony's films are shot so well, they really demonstrate his ability. Long shots that really sell the action, rather than quick cuts to make someone 'look good'. Good stuff! :)
3 influences for me when it came to being aware of muay Thai which are true crime 2, Bruce from Tekken and Tony JAA
What about buakaw guys
Buakaw..is legend
It's sad that Tony Jaa doesn't get much credit like he used to.
Seriously, that dude could do some brutal looking battles. In a more just world he would have his own super popular niche like, jackie chan and his crazy stunts and desperate scramble, where nobody does it like them and they have a huge following.
Cause he hasn't made any good movies lately.
@@chrishubbard64 he does have a super popular niche, what bubble are you stuck in? And how is jackie chan a super popular niche? He is an international super star. Wait a minute? What is a super popular niche that's an oxymoronic statement.
Muhammad ali and bruce lee make some mistakes to. They al humans its normal
@@chrishubbard64 Jackie Chan was one of the most popular actors in the 90s and early 2000s because of his stunts and fight scenes that "he did them all himself" (he didn't do all of his fight scenes or stunts himself ). Tony Jaa's biggest problem was that he had maybe 3 good movies with him being in a leading role . He is similar in that way to Steven Seagal .
Tony Jaa's Muay Thai skills are not only showcased excellently in movies, but he is also a well-trained martial artist with a strong foundation in Muay Thai. Apart from his performances on screen, he has participated in various martial arts competitions and demonstrations, demonstrating his genuine expertise in the field of Muay Thai
Here is another fact about Tony Jaa. Tony did fight as a Muay Thai Fighter. His record was 5-0. He decided to pursue movies because of the art of Muay Thai and Muay Boran for his country rather than just fighting against people. Tony Jaa's form is 10/10 for the movie Ong Bak.
มีตอนนึงผู้ชายแก่ๆที่ขายของบอกท่าตอนทิ้งโจมตีชื่อท่า"หนุมานข้ามลงกา"คลาชสิค
And he earned more in movies
Are you seriously comparing someone with 5 fights (were they even pro?) vs someone who's an 8 time world champion?
I think it's a bit telling you clowns actually think a movie is real, hint it's not.
And he could save more elephants that way
@@SlayerofFictiondon’t forget, he’s actually Thai. Means he grew up with it as his national sport. Course he’s no champion, but the art is in his blood as his birth right.
Tony Jaa teeped to the face in that scene to return the disrespect the other guy had shown just before (Flipping him off, saying "f*ck muay thai"). Touching the face with a foot is considered disrespectful in traditional Thai culture.
Thanks for pointing this out.
BTW, I've heard that Indians hate to touch Harij and thus would try to fight relying only on kicks.
Push kick
Steep kick
But in dutch kick boxing its the front kick
And its my favorite kick lol
Its easy and fast
But it's ALSO a great kick to hurt someone. An return insult to insult
The low stance she pointed out also took place just after the face kick. The camera was looking up from the point of view of the downed opponent. It was a flex on Tony's part to show Big Bear he was in control.
@@edi9892 what is Harij?
To Tony Jaa's defense, those are Muay Boran punches, not Western Boxing. Muay Boran kinda became Muay Thai after the introduction of Western Boxing from the Phillipines where they added boxing gloves to increase safety. The influence of Western boxing raised the stance from a low stance to high stance, changed punches, and added rules to standardize the Sport of Muay Thai from of the art of Muay Boran.
not sure about the Philippines part but definitely agree on the rest of the history.
@@BrandonTLuong from what I know, Americans introduced boxing to the Philippines in the early 1900s and was legalized in 1921. It was during this time of the reign of King Rama VII(1920-1930) that he hosted many Phillipine boxing matches and used that to standardize Muay Thai.
@@damienthetexasian6827 according from wiki there's no mention of King rama VII hosting many Philippines boxing match Because it was the British boxing not Philippines, Rama VII at the time only support national sport that is muay thai, And boxing gloves is influenced by the British boxing not "Philippines boxing"
@@redbloody946 i hear ya. I questioned it also when both my Thai coaches told me. I too had never heard the Phillipino boxing connection.
No reason these both can't be true.
Its kind of the same with Karate, where most karate schools teach karate that falls under "tournament rules", so a lot of the actual techniques are slowly being forgotten except for their places of origin.
I dont know enough about Muay Thai to correct her on the "different levels of Muay Thai to master? I don't know what he's talking about", but I feel that there's definitely somewhat of a rank system of sorts, much like other martial arts having ranks.
In ancient times, muay thai or muay boran was actually considered a kind of weapon in war specifically between Thailand and Burma. Soldiers that mastered in muay thai were assigned to protect each leg of King's elephant in the war zone, for close combat purpose. And yes! in those days, Kings or leaders battled each war on elephant-back.
protect each leg of King's elephant, in what way?
@@Junweitrustnobody1403At war if you have to take down an elephant with just swords and spears, you'd have to target it's legs, hence a soldier for each legs protection. Similar to infantry supporting tanks in urban combat situation in modern doctrine.
@@i3oringdayz ah right right like how halberd or other polearm is useful against horsemen. Is there historical drawings of elephant's legs been covered? I'm very curious
@@Junweitrustnobody1403 Google image this word "จตุลังคบาท" or "Chatulangkhabat", unfortunately not too much info in English but plenty of pictures thought.
All Asian martial art was use in war
Yessss this was so insightful and badass. Totally here for this!
Tony Jaa is a legend. Most of his moves are real. Choreography is based on the real Muay Boran style. It is not the sport Muay Tai Boxing. It is street Muay Tai
is not street fight!
is a style developed to defend the elephant of the king
enemy try to cut elephant foot so the king had a potential death just from falling
elite soldiers protect the elephant with the classic 2 sword
when they lose the swords they use muay BORAN
1 hit = disable\kill the enemy
only elbow, clinch and knee
@@RealNotallGaming i know ser. Thanks for info))
* THAI*
What's Tai
@@dotsfrazer The professor above means *Thai *
So I grew up in Thailand doing Muay Chaiya, a southern Muay Boran style. I believe the tiger knee is a reference to a specific low stance where you're almost in a lunged position, back knee almost touching the ground. The idea is to bait a mid-low kick and transition into a sweep or strike. I think the stance translates to "tiger drags its tail". It's possible to do a knee strike from that position, but takes a great deal of athleticism, energy, and wind-up that's generally not practical and thus not expected - but a great deal of power if delivered.
Maybe the anime just wanted a signature move and formulated the name "tiger knee", but it's possible this is a reference to a tiger stance into an improbable knee strike that distills the idea that only someone with top tier athleticism and experience could do.
Now you have me thinking about Sagat, both the street fighter character and the actual fighter.
You nailed it. If I recall it right, that is more or less the animation for tiger knee in Street Fighter 2, he lowers the stance before throwing the knee. Also in-story Sagat is supposed to be super powerful physically, so much so Ryu has to learn magic to defeat him.
My guess is ... at the time the game is developed, muay Thai is less well known. The developer kinda make up the name of all of his move. And in this case of Sagat, all of his move has the word "tiger" on its name.
We are talking about game (and this anime adaptation) that has yoga practioner able to stretch their limps, float in the air, and even breath fire. No one is expecting realism I guess.
lol i remember beating all my friends with sagat just spaming things like TIGER KNEE!!!
@@WutipongWongsakuldej when street fighter came out the Japanese already knrw about how effective muay thai was. thats why they made their nemesis Sagat. most people dont even know who Sagat is nowadays. the Japanese karate fighters knew how tough old school muay thai fighters were.
There is also a kick called "Crocodile tail strike" (จระเข้ฟาดหาง) in Muay Thai as well. And that scene that Tony Jaa "teep" the opponent face is called "Feet Rub Face" move (บาทาลูบพักตร์)
A kick with the sole of the foot to the face is considered a severe offense. You do this on purpose to insult your opponent.
The logic behind it: in Thai culture the head is view as the vessel of one's soul, the foot - touching the ground - is dirty. So, trying to run dirt onto one's soul is disrespectful.
Well I'll call it Deez nuts
I'm thai, I didn't know there would be so many people interested in Muay Thai. I'm so glad! thank you for this video!
FYI Tony Jaa is displaying classical Muay Boran guard stance which is more angular and more protective than sport Muay Thai's 11 guard. The Muay Boran techniques displayed here from Ong Bak all have traditional poetic names influenced by the epic myth of Ramakien which is based on the Hindu Ramayana. The teep to the face is "Bata Loopak" or "Foot Touches Face" which is also a sign of disrespect toward an opponent.
The second one where Tony jumps over Big Bear's kicking leg and knees him in the face is "Hanuman Kham Longka" or "Monkey King Crosses the city of Lanka". The late Grandmaster Sidyodtong actually makes a cameo here and utters the technique out loud.
Lastly, the jumping double knee and double elbow is called "Chuey Khang" or "Chuck the Chin" movement.
Also "Kickboxer" is an iconic JCVD movie, but really deserves a 2/10 instead of a 4 for a lot of inaccuracies. I doubt the general audience would not be too keen on them but a seasoned person already in the know about Muay Thai would definitely have a field day. For one, old style boxers do not dip their kaad chuek or hand rope wrappings in giant chunks of broken glass but finely ground bits for the abrasion. To name some others, there's a scene where Van Damme is training against a hard palm tree not a banana tree which boxers actually use in lieu of a heavy bag. Banana trees have a fleshy plant-like stem, not wood. This makes them suitable for hitting without damage to the shins. And lastly, except for a few scenes, Van Damme is mostly throwing karate-style kicks throughout the entire movie when he's supposed to be using Thai-style kicks.
Yup.....most people watching this sort of stuff would have seen Buakaw murder that poor banana tree by now lol
His style is Muay Surin. Look it up and it's already been documented by Antonio Graceffo
@@Katcom111
Yea he coined it "muay Surin" because that's the name of the place where Jaa is from. But it's a little akin to saying "muay Bangkok" if it came from Bangkok. Through and through it's just muay Boran that Jaa is practicing and displaying. Historically speaking "muay Boran" comes from the same roots as other systems like pradal Serey and lethwei and is the umbrella term to cover all of the major regional flavors of Korat, Chaiya. Lopburi and Thasao. You can even throw Krabi Krabong into there as it is a type of muay Boran. In Tony's second movie, however, he came up with "muay Kotchasarn" or Elephant Boxing style which was brilliantly portrayed and totally fictitious lol.
If the mora thai stance is more protective, why doesn't thai fighters that won world championships use it?
Yup. As far as I know, Van Damme is a practitioner of Karate.
Tony Jaa popularized Muay Thai and Muay Boran through his films.
so he is the bruce lee for muay thai?
absolutely true, whenever I see muay thai fight I remember ong bak
@@harryharrison362 I am not aware of him attaching any philosophy to his martial arts. Not in public, anyway.
I agree. I started practicing Muay Thai after going through a bad breakup in 2004, where we watched Ong Bak (her recommendation) in Theaters. Of course, the guns I was checking out made it very clear that it was Muay Boran in the film. Still practicing to this day and started mixing in more of the Dutch style.
Before tony Yaa it was the JCVD movies Kickboxer and Bloodsport that popularized the sport. I mean, everybody wanted to be Tong Po back in the days kicking concrete beams.
Mad props to this lady for participating (and WINNING) in such a brutal sport for twenty years!
Funfact : Muay Boran is a style developed to defend the elephant of the king when enemy try to cut elephant foot.. 4 elite soldiers protect the elephant with the classic 2 sword. when they lose the swords they use muay BORAN There are many dangerous techniques such as breaking joints, and takedown.
Years ago, I had the chance of attending a Muay Thai event in Bangkok. Seeing the fighters perform the Wai Khru before the fight was simply beautiful. And those kicks they were throwing at each other during the fight were vicious: they looked (and sounded) like they could kill you on the spot.
Yeah it's better not to even consider messing around with Muay Thai on their native ground, your asking to get murdered if you do.
Muay Thai is considered as a weapon in Thailand btw. If you are a fighter or practice it and use it to kill or hurt someone that can be considered as weapon.
There is a reason why the average retirement age for Muay Thai boxers is 25.
If one of those kicks land in a vital spot it probably could.
@@RovalisGTO a regular person would be in the emergency hospital my Asian friend almost killed two dudes in high school, he defended himself against those wannabe bullies, I knew it was Muay Thai because I watched tony jaa movies
The og Ong Bak still has to be the best martial arts film in history….and that comes with NO disrespect to Bruce Lee who is the GOAT without question
Over The Raid?
@@youngjayo6881 bruh the raid 1&2 is soooo damn elite
Both top notch. Bruce Lee would have been proud of the results of his legacy
Ip man ong bak the protector lol
Came here to say raid
It was cool cool to see a breakdown from someone so passionate about the sport. Muy Thai is honestly beast 🔥💪🏾
Van Damme comes from shotokan Karate. The reason why we “fold” the foot away from the shin during a roundhouse kick (she calls it pointing your toes) is simply to avoid a multiple fracture to your toes if the top of your toes hit your target (think his shoulder or elbow) when you hit.
For example, imagine if Leon Edwards toes had hit Kumaru Usman instead of his shin. He would have broken his on toes on the spot and lost the fight.
So some fighting styles sacrifice a bit of energy on that kick to remove the risk of breaking your toes. Unless you’re wearing shoes of course, then it’s ok.
This lady’s hit by the way. And 23 years of fighting? How old is she?
In a competition you actually do not do that, you hit with the flat side of the foot, and have the toes like a Muay Thai fighter.
In "a real fight" you flex the tows and hit with the toes (the ball of the foot behind the toes). Because that makes the target area smaller, especially when you want to hit a pressure point. And if you aim for the head: you easy hit behind the block, if there is a block.
Tony Jaa was 10/10 back those days
Tony Jaa blew my mind when I first saw Ong Bak he is insane!
it’s one of my old coaches from sityodtong! good man 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I love her indepth explanations, and also her reactions to the Van Damme film! 😂
VAN DAMME using karate style when he kick.
@@boboboy8189
No...that's how they actually kick in authentic muay thai
The old school guys do not like modern muay thai
Modern muay thai hardly uses any techniques
Other than knees elbows front kicks roundhouse kicks
They took put the side kicks and stuff
That existed before Taekwondo..wich eas created in 1955
In original muay thai
Tbey never had weight categories
So clinching wasn't widely used ..
I can't be five foot 2 using clinching against someone who is 6 foot 7
You wouldn't be able to hurt them with low kicks bcause of the different levels of power and strength
I love how she reflected the respect due to their ceremonial practices...can tell she really honours the sport
Yeah, I noticed that as well and I think she spoke really well about it.
She left her boyfriend because he lost a fight
@@LuisRios-bf9vn Really? Sound unlikely!
@@morelenmir look her up on the Joe Rogan podcast and you will also find more videos of it. It's really sad how she think of man
@@LuisRios-bf9vn no, i looked it up and it wasn't for that reason.
My friend broke his arm blocking a Muay Thai round kick without thinking during training and the kick was only thrown at half power. Oh the memories lol.
so are people just not supposed to block & take it to the face?
@@cheesypuffs1342 Use cover or shield your head with your arms, very similiar to western boxing to soften the blow and protect the head. Usually round kicks have less power to the head than kicks to the body and legs, or just evade the kick all together if possible. Lol
I forgot to mention you can shield and cover at the same time if your not sure where the kick is going to land.
Ouch
That was one of my gripes about the scene with Tony Jaa and Paul Walker. In close quarters, covering with your forearm is better than getting kicked in the head. Her critiques strictly comes from Muay Thai in the ring with a lot of space.
As a Muay Thai fighter myself, i agree with most of what she is saying. Best advice to do is to not get into a fight with people, just try to avoid confrontation as much as possible.
Great comments from a true pro! Cheers! 😀
Tony Jaa does Muay Boran, which is the ancient combat martial arts used in battle which was then sporterized into modern Muay Thai. There is some correlation but there will be lots of moves in Boran not used in Muay Thai.
My friend is an instructor in Muay Boran. He taught me the differences and a few unique techniques.
Your wrong tony jaa does all the styles of. Muay thai....every movie he ever made shows a diffrent style of muay thai
@@eliseoreyes1858 No you're half right half wrong lol.. I'm sure Tony Jaa knows Muay Thai, but in Movies he mostly uses Muay Boran. It's more flashy and cooler for movies. I don't see any moves like Samart or Saechai in movies.. Unless you're trying to accurately portray Muay Thai.
In Tony Jaa movies its probably like 70% Muay Boran and 30% Muay Thai.
@@eliseoreyes1858 so... where did muay thai come from if not from the original martial art... and even she says it's Boran in the analysis... are you one of those people that just has to say something even if it's wrong?
@@FlyingTigersKMT yee yee exactly right hit it right on the money
@@eliseoreyes1858 lol bravo
I'm from Philippines and I am not familiar with Muay Thai until I meet Tonay Jaa in Ongback. He's really a legend.
You met Tony Jaa in Ong-Bak? Nice. How did the meeting went?
@@BrokenNoah I mean I meet him in his movie and in hollywood. He's truly amazing.
@@reksgavriel5351 You met him in Hollywood? Cool.
Napanood kasi, hindi nameet.
i can totally see where she's coming from but i also understand the traditional fighting style from ong bak which i would say is as useful or wouldnt stray far from the modern techniques of muay thai. most modern style martial arts dont go high or uses a more simple techniques to fight because most fighters nowadays are restricted by their physicality. So yeah, i'd say i agree with her but also with Tony. XD
the way that Tony Ja hook the punch@06:00 is a punch technique from Mauy Korat (one of Mauy Boran) . It called " mud- kwang- kway" ( หมัดขว้างควาย).
Love your video, krab.
I remember when I first saw Ong Bak, in 2004 (I guess, idk exactly), It was absolutely insane, like nothing I've seen before, I knew nothing about it and it had that "'jaw dropping" effect on me... in fact, even nowadays I don't think there's something better out there in terms of "fighting movies", he really set a new standard.
What I liked more than the fights was that the protagonist was actively trying to avoid fighting. Got tired of those films where the protagonist is a "pacifist" who, at the first inconvenience, just stands defiantly, waiting for someone to provoke him into a "justified" fight.
It was "hey! this guy actually acts as if he did not want to fight!".
The persecutions were cool, too.
@@sergiojuanmembiela6223 True. Jet Li when I saw him in Kiss of The Dragon and then later on Romeo Must Die, he was insanely fast and very grounded. It was a lot more realistic fighting than I had seen from Jet before that.
Onk-Bak 2 is also great. I love Tony Jaa's story as well. As soon as his fame was growing, he retired from movies, was gone for years, then came back and started doing films again.
Really nice straight forward breakdown, by someone who obviously knows their stuff. Always good to hear a professional at the top of their game just talking shop.
She's talking sport. Martial arts wasn't a sport, we made it into a sport
She doesn’t. Know one who knows MA or kinetics would say a kick starts from the opposite side. It’s natural resistance from a hard body, I.e. the ground
You got a new subscriber because I was insider.
It's highly valuable the wisdom and advise of an expert of the field!
Jony Jaa really popularized Muay Thai on the world stage.
I would watch his fight scenes a dozen times and had no idea what type of fighting art he used but later learned it was Muay Thai. A legend!
Jony Jaa is a dope name
You millennials funny
@@db-hj9cu That's funny, man.
It’s always been popular in Europe. There’s Muay Thai events every weekend, it’s only just really becoming popular in the USA now. One championship just did an American prime time show so hopefully it’ll gain the popularity it deserves.
Is muay boran kinda muay thai but use for war in ancien time
7:39 "I've never heard of a Tiger Knee. It's just a knee buddy."
Sagat is over 7 feet tall with a knee the size of most people's torso. That and having the ability to kick through boulders qualify it as a Tiger Knee lol
Thank you. I was shocked she'd never heard of a Tiger Knee. Paused the video and went to the comments lol. Absolutely shocked.
@@UmzGames As far as my brief research goes, the tiger knee only exists in Street Fighter, so… as assumed the two decade professional is correct.
@@mhm1767 obviously, the humour missed you. Street Fighter first released in 1987, Sagat and his Tiger Knee since 91- 3 decades, to her 2. Thank you kindly.
Being that she was busy training to be champion instead of playing games, like Umz Games obviously was, it's that shocking, it's humour lol
Cool video and Buakaw Banchamek is one of the best, do one of his video will be awesome
Impressed with the concise commentary....
I trained Muay Thai for many years. She's spot on. I learned 6 different kicks outside of the Low Kick, Round Kick, Front Kick and Head kick. there is of course the Axe kick and I learned 6 other ones from 2 different masters who came to Master Toddy's school in Vegas from Master Green that are devastating and not legal in a professional fight, but you can do them on the street. She was spot on with everything she said. She reminds me of my wife who is also a Muay Thai fighter and Southpaw boxer. Excellent video!
She is a champ
Was that ronnie green? He and his son was my first coach if it is 🙏🏻
There's just something so efficient and purely destructive about good Muay Thai. Loved this. Loved her analysis
always been my favorite martial art. in the early days of ufc kickboxers were cleaning house
It's a truly brutal martial art.
It's the antidote to the "rhythmic dancing" arts seen in many Chinese films....
@@edwardfletcher7790 And yet what distinguishes Thai boxers who are just average from the really good ones is command of rhythm, distance and timing. The thing that makes Buakaw so terrifying is the way he keeps his own timing and rhythm, moves it around like jazz, and makes the other guy conform to it.
@@toddellner5283 Not really my point. I'm referring to the terrible Chinese Opera style arm waving crap.
I think Muay Thai fighters are better simply because of the style & their absolute dedication to perfection.
@@edwardfletcher7790 Ah, that makes sense.
Really cool that we get all the example videos for everything she says =)
Super dope and informative
Tony Jaa is literally a legend in movies. He does his own stunts and choreography. He is very skilled and trained very well so he can prolly do al the stunts he does in movies in real life. And he really knows what's he doing, so he must be rated much more.
When i first saw Ong Bak he was the one to inspire me to do Muay Thai along with real life Sagat which the Street Fighter character is based on
Yeah he is literally the guy and don't even know who the woman is talking about 😂🤣
That’s why I couldn’t believe Paul walker going toe to toe with him 😂😂😂 I know it’s a movie but dam
He's an ACTOR who ENTERTAINS people.
Turn off the movies, this is embarrassing.
@@SlayerofFiction he is not only an actor, but also trained in martial arts. sure, he probably wouldn't win a championship, but saying he is just an actor is disrespectful.
"I'm just here for that outfit" -- said every Power Rangers actor and every Power Rangers fan in the entire 30 year history of Power Rangers!
One of the power rangers even killed a dude in real life, with a sword!
@J L Go, go Power Rangers…
With how cheesy Power Rangers have always been, I’m surprised they even considered showing a fight from it. Even in the fight shown, she probably wasn’t even intentionally trying to do a Muay Thai move. Lol
@J L I'm still scratching my head into why they're even including this. It's been a min but I could've sworn this season was Kung Fu Based lol
@@antman9259 You're not wrong but he was a moron it was a "Muay Thai" fighter While everyone else did Kung Fu even in the Japanese version. (which is very funny) when he transforms he puts on traditional muay thai uniform (then through the magic of special effects) that becomes his costume. Look up geki-violet.
Awesome watch, loved it.
Thank you Miriam. I really enjoyed listening to your reviews of these fights. 😁
*I love how she doesn't try to discredit them so much and constantly uses "Not like anything I have seen before".*
*That's a good strategic disclaimer.*
I was in Muay Thai for 15 years or so. We used shinai swords to condition our shins a lot. I’d forgotten about a lot of little things. Fun to watch. Like curling the hand in when she shows elbows… broke my back and had to stop. The skip kick was a favorite of mine.
Is your back ok now?
we used rattan escrimas.....fun times! ah the good ol days.
What was the name of the gym I wa t to find out who is doing that to people's shins
@@VeraxMusic not really. Kinda changed my life. I spent my 30’s at home. Still in pain every day but I’m moving around and stuff. So it got better after 10 years of not changing. It sucks but I’m grateful it’s better than it was now. Thanks for asking.
@@dotsfrazer no gym. Where we did the first several years closed down years ago now. We did it to ourselves. My brother and I. Lol. I’d never have done that to any students. That’s just about the dumbest thing anyone could do in the states. Lol
Thanks for the video and input, would have been nice to also see the elevator scene in Ip Man 3 being analyzed
I remember first watching a prayer before dawn such a good movie to all people that love Muay thai I would definitely suggest it
Muay boran (Tony used) has a low stance in order to defend take down. Muay boran came from battle fields. People only needed to strike, defend, and take down. Muay boran has many joint locks and take downs but 0 submission and ground fight. Why? Back in old wars, if you got thrown to the ground, you'd get stomped or ran over or stabbed with any objects then died. No need to do arm bar or other submission. (Even in real fight today, once you throw a person with Judo or Wrestling or whatsoever, you can very well smack the dude with a rock or any hard object, or stomp his head "IF" you aint afraid of lawsuits after for killing the person. No ground fighting needed to win a fight). Anyways thays why Tony's stance or Muay borna stance is low.
Muay thai stance tosay is standing tall to strike fast and hard and also because it doesn't have take downs, so you don't need to lower your body for extra balance.
There isn't any record that Muay Boran unarmed striking was used in warfare. Most likely swords, spears and pikes. When musket guns and cannons was introduced in the 15th century in southeast asia. It is no use to fight unarmed.
@@Katcom111 Muay is not the main fighting way but for when you lost your weapon or using along your weapon. And Battle in that time less warrior gain access to armor.
Imagine fighting against warior that expert in his weapon and muay. You could be kicked or punch along the fight no need to use muay with bare hand. When you are too focus on weapon fighting and got lower kick as surprise then he gain advantage for sure. There are no rule in battlefield to use your weapon in hand and switch to Muay only when you lost weapon.
The damage from kicke might not break your bone but your muscle will be damaged and that pain af. Once you can't keep moving you are dead meat in battlefield. That why they always said that design to take life in battlefield. Muay thai give you an advantage in fighting.
@@Katcom111 umm achshually *nerd emoji intensifies*
yeah, she literally said that in the video.
The entire Final Fight in Ong Bak 2 is Tony Jaa's best work to date
I don't know why this video came up in my YT suggestions but I must admit I enjoyed watching it :)
Some of Thai words in this video
Teep = ถีบ = Using the flat of your feet to punt something. Same word is used for when you ride a bicycle
Boran = โบราณ = Ancient/old. Muay Boran basically just means old style boxing
Mongkhon = มงคล = A headgear, there are a lots of tradition and ritualistic aspect to muay thai and this part of them. Interstingly มงคล also mean auspicious in normal day-to-day usage.
Wai Khru = ไหว้ครู = Traditional ritual of venerating your teacher/school before the match. ไหว้ is a thai version of indian greeting. ครู/Khru means teacher, cognate with of the word Guru.
Rum muay = รำมวย = literally means boxing dance
Not an expert on the field so forgive me if I get something wrong.
Some of the words like Boran and Rum/Rom are derived from the Old Khmer words
@@Katcom111 Going even further, from Sanskrit. Like Khru --> Guru, and Boran --> Puran (same meaning: old).
@@RB-fp8hn Yes Thai inherited a lot from Indian and Buddhism, the king who developed Thai alphabet base most of them from Sanskrit
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I'm glad see that there are people in the comment section who are defending Tony Jaa, and rightfully so.
tony jaa is a beast
As soon as I saw Miriam in the thumbnail for the video rating movie fight scenes I had to click and watch, good job on getting one of the most respectable Muay Thai fighters to rate videos for you, one of my idols lol
Ong Bak and the Protector were so dope. Tony Jaa is legendary
I always find differences between martial arts fascinating. Like how she said in Muay Thai, you shouldn’t point your toes when kicking.
I took karate for 10 years and we ALWAYS pointed our toes. Because in karate, you kick with your foot rather than your shin, and kicking without curling or pointing your toes can cause you to break them.
Just found that interesting.
I like her detailed knowledge and articulation of the proper biomechanics
"Tenderizing the meat (with your knee)" - Oh my, I'm about to fall in love with this badass woman! 😄
Yeah she got my heart with that one too .
"So that was very, very, very realistic"
"That, no. That's not Muay Thai."
I couldn't help but laugh at that.
If you grab an arm and do it with the arm included you literally have a flying triangle choke I think a lot of Martial artists under estimate what is possible just because it is not optimal. a frankensteiner is a totally legitimate martial arts manoeuvre it's just not a very good one but if that is all the situation presents you with that's what you going to do I think a lot of the problem with martial artist is they don't fight in real-world circumstances play the fight for sport which is not real you don't have a referee in real life nobody there to break up the fight if it gets too bad work course they don't know what they're doing and they just train and I couldn't use it in a real situation anyway I have used manoeuvres nobody would ever told me to use simply because the opportunity presents itself martial arts can be very rigid for some reason optimisation you should take a back seat 2 opportunity plus if you grab somebody by the genitals and left you can easily get some really good fight because they don't know how to counter lifts and it's really funny.
Tony jaa is d legend of muay Thai
6:35 - It's one of the hardest Muay Thai technique, it's called "ban-sian-tod-sa-kan" which means like cut off Todsakan's head (Todsakan is the giant with 10 heads, he appears on Thai traditional tale which originally from India)
Anyways, as a Thai, I agree that this type of move isn't practically work in real life and it's required a lot of body skill but it's always fun to watch.
I studied the original Muay Thai, we had bamboo sticks in the gym for shin conditioning, as we advanced in training the aim was to one day break the bamboo with our shin, I accomplished not just that but the ability to kick metal, I have 5 wins from low kicks alone. Muay Thai is the perfect street Martial Art if the practitioner can use it well. I can transition easily to effective moves, that is what helped me win fights. If you try grabbing me you get a knee or an elbow. We even have an elbow done when an opponent grabs your wrist, you just tuck in the wrist while lifting the elbow over to the opponents head, or pull down your wrist, bringing the opponents head to a knee or spinning elbow. Today I am a referee with the kickboxing federation. Van Damme's kick in Blood Sport was a karate kick, he was doing a flick kick most of the time, which is an incomplete kick in Muay Thai, where your hip or pelvis has to be in the kick, it is a total transfer of bodyweight into the kick which can send you into a spin if you miss.
What are the chances of winning with hard leg kicks in mma on the top professionals,
Are people so conditioned that it wont affect them ?
@@henryhoover3953 Chances are very high if the athlete is smart enough with the leg kicks. Edson Barboza and Pat Barry have done it multiple times. In Jose Aldo vs Uriah Faber, Jose seriously messed up Uriah's legs
It's called a Tiger Knee because it's from a video game that entered production around 1988. Everything Sagat does is Tiger whatever, even the fireballs. It's his thing. Her head might have exploded if she saw a Tiger Uppercut.
Tiger shot
Tiger knee
Tiger uppercut
Tiger rampage
Can't believe Sagat got 0/10 XD Tiger Trash
Didn't see that cartoon. Actually Tiger Knee from the videogame is... Like majority of special moves in Street fighter, the question is: if someone is given the power to break laws of physics and do it, can anyone defend against it? how would the woman in the video prepare for a fight with an opponent blessed by the gods with the tiger knee or tiger uppercut working exactly as they do in the videogame?
@@BlackestEyes709 Don't forget his signature super, Tiger Genocide. But if a 7'4" Thai Fighter wants to knee your chest in, he can call it whatever he wants.
Based off an actual muy Thai fighter from 70s to late 80s. He runs tiger muy Thai gym in Thai land
@@bigjayabc Sagat Petchyindee.
Very nice one from a legit hardcore fighter! A good few of these were taekwondo or karate techniques though 🤷♂️
The low stance was mainly for stability during war... because of the terrain but fighting barehanded without a sword is a myth. This came from Lethwei and bokator. Muay Thai that you see today is relatively new dating back to the 1800s, basically the king at that time westernised a lot of Thailand including muaythai by adding rules, gloves and a ring.
Good. I like that she showed respect to tony JAA. That guy is actually a force to be reckoned with outside films
Love to hear your review of Chocolate! So enjoyed this video - thanks!
In our star studded Kung-fu gym, we had one instructor who we nicknamed 'Broadway Joe.' He actually worked on the Power Rangers. One of his 'techniques' was to put powder in his shoes, so when he slapped or short punched a flying kick, there was an effect of explosive power. It was ridiculous.
Was not expecting to see the purple jungle fury ranger in this video. My heart is happy
Thanks for sharing. I love breakdowns of fight scenes. I do it myself. Not to say I am any form of martial arts expert. But I like to watch, rewatch, slow down, and see what attacks are being used, reactions, figure out the move's intention and things that could have gone better. I never looked closely at Muay Thai. This was very educational for me. I draw comics and maybe one day, I'll have a Muay Thai fighter.
So I’m guessing she didn’t watch Ong Bak, because she said she wouldn’t get that low, but Tony Ja only got that low on that occasion because his opponent was on the ground, so he closed in to check if the fight was over while maintaining a defensive stance
Exactly
FACTS 💯
Bruh she is going on what she is shown.
@@dentyph5169 I didn’t meant to diss her, I was just giving my input on that scene
@@dentyph5169 they should watch the shows if they're going to comment on them -- its not like Ong Bak is not known
Tony Jaa has exceptional skill "beyond" MuayThai and very flexible, many different elbow angles. You are correct, they do not do so much of wheel kick, spinning back fist, etc. because when one turns the back, the eyes are off the opponent. Some kick with the ball of the foot (shoving kick or "teep" is one), no axe or heel kicks. Round house is best if standing foot totally pivots, blocking the Thai kicks with one arm may not be adequate. Obviously, you are very knowledgeable, congratulation on your career.
I enjoyed the video and now I'm in love !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He retired, became a monk, right when his career was taking off, then after a few years went back to making movies, only to find that the industry had changed to a more streaming focused environment. He was in Monster Hunter, which is way better than people give it credit. He also did Jiu Jitsu with Nicolas Cage. He is going to be in The Expendables 4 next year.
Hope the man has the same comeback as Ke Huy Quan did. Tony's a legend.
Should check out SPL II: A Time for Consequences / Killzone 2
Monster Hunter was garbage. No doubt.
Monster hunter was garbage that pleased no one lol. Didn't please martial arts movie enthusiasts or fans of the game.
As an an eleven yaers long true fan of MH. I want to reject but I can't, lmao. That movie is an absolute garbage and a disgrace to the whole of MH series.
I love the selection for this. I was not expecting Street Fighter and... Power Rangers. I loved that she still gave us knowledge even when it was something silly, instead of just being like 'that's wrong and dumb.'
In most of these type vids I've seen (not many) the experts are good about it. Pretty sure they have some that do the "that just dumb" and not explain why. But mostly respected the experts they find.
Street Fighter was one thing but POWER RANGERS!!! Maaaannn come on, why include this lmao 🤣
in modern muay thai training camps they use bags, bob dummies, and heavy pads. but back in the day old school training in thailand they used trees. in fact in some camps who train the old school way they still use trees in the rural communities.
Massive respect to you for giving massive respect to Tony.
Very impressive. As a Thai, to see foreigners has true knowledge in Muay Thai and Muay Boran more than average Thais and use the terms so correctly. Especially the comments!
It's so different from Thai food videos, where most of the clip and comments usually go wrong.
I guess I'm going to have to watch Raya. I liked the fight scene, but I didn't realize it was actually pretty accurate.
You may not because all you see in this video is all hand to hand combat in the movie
It's not accurate. She just liked it because they were women.
@@ty194 Well, she gave Tony Jaa a higher score. No women in that fight.
@@EugWanker Yet still named Raya as her pick. Make that make sense.
Kickboxer was def my introduction to the sport. I assumed it wasn't authentic as a kid but it was still great!
i'm from surin thailand thank you for comment muay thai😄
LOVE the fact that Muay Thai is getting the love that it deserve. Ong Bak is the GOAT!
Every time I kick through my computer monitor, I do it WAY different.
Jaas technique is impeccable.
There are several Ancient Muay Thai Styles (simple called as "Muay Boran", Boran = Ancient).
So if someone didn't know some stances before might be because those stances disappeared from the majority's practice.
What we need to know now is there are 5 recorded Muay Boran Styles (as I tried to search so far), each from 4 different regions including the North (Tha Sao), the Central (Lopburi), the Northeastern (Korat), the South (Chaiya), and the style from Department of Physical Education. Each style has its own uniqueness and far more deadly than the style most people in the industry practice right now as it is used for "war", especially in the "live or die" situation. Also, I don't remember where I found this acclaim "the most deadliest standing stance fighting style", but I do agree with it.
She was easily the most intelligent Muay Thai coach I've heard. Very matter-of-fact and straightforward about what's involved. Miriam is awesome!
I agree, I wonder if she's comfy too. Maybe I should try sitting on her to test it out 🤔
Coach**. 😂
A very terrible person too
I swear I spelled it right! Anyone believe me if I blame spellchecker or something?
@@kingkazuma2239 how?
For those that don't know, Miriam is an absolute legend!
She definitely is but the number of Ong Bak fanboys who are talking smack about her just because she criticized the realism in Ong Bak is ridiculous....there will always be these dummies who can't separate movies from reality when it comes to martial arts....it's the one thing where for some stupid reason the average Joe still believes that what they see on screen is real and then they'll get mad when an actual professional fighters tells them it's not
@@cyborgchicken3502 it's probably because I'm late but i haven't seen any butthurt fanboys, at least not here
@@cyborgchicken3502 To be fair she is talking quite a bit of nonsense in this clip. I put it down to the different style of Muay Thai that is likely being taught in the US.
One example is at 10:45 - 11:05, she says you don't do that, even though it is very common to see. In the video "Rodtang's Dangerous Muay Thai Style", you may see Rodtang (one of the best Muay Thai fighters in Thailand) perform this multiple times. Just after the 7 minute mark or at 11:22 are two examples. Guard down during a Muay Thai fight in front of a fighter at close (elbow) range, dishing out hooks.
Ramon Dekkers is another fighter that very often did that. Again there is a video on yt: "The Very Best of Ramon Dekkers (Knockouts/Highlights) | Muay Thai" that shows him within the first minute do it multiple times. 0:25 through 0:32 for example. 0:30 to 0:32 also show him standing low in front of his opponent whilst finishing him, something she says you don't do in Muay Thai (standing low).
Both of those fighter's footages (especially the 0:25 to 0:32 from Dekkers) are also contrary to what she says at 6:07. Odd that she doesn't remember this very common technique called "hook".
The shown film footage of the hooks by Tony Jaa look rather like wild arm swings instead of a controlled hook, though. It is a movie after all.
If you scroll down a bit further you'll see a few
@@muppet5760 i see your point of view but I suppose in her case she's talking about it from her own experiences and her own style of fighting, every Muay Thai fighter has a different way of using the art in a professional fight, it doesn't mean she's talking nonsense though, mind you she both competed and trained in Thailand during her 14 fight run as a Muay Thai champ, so it's possible that whatever school she trained at didn't implement those techniques you mentioned, or perhaps she just didn't include them in her style of fighting, the fact that she won all 14 bouts in her career with no losses and has been training in Muay Thai for over 20 years is proof enough that she knows what she's talking about at least based on her own experiences, maybe she's wrong in saying that it's absolutely never used, you've just provided examples that there are cases of such techniques being used but I don't think it discredits her opinion and her experience in any way...she's got the fight record and skill to prove that she knows what she's talking about....also Tony Jaa isn't a professional fighter, he's an actor and has trained in Muay Boran which is the more ancient style of Muay Thai
Wow. She's good. I'm inpressed.
Nobody judges Tony Jaa. It's him that popularized the Thai boxing.
I have been training WT for 2 years and 5 years on and off of Krav Maga. We had a couple of Muay Thai trainers visit from Thailand before the covid thing and had a sparring session with them.. I have never, in those 7 years, have my wind knocked out of me on the level that he did when he got close to me.. I had a good hold until i got an elbow to my jaw and a kick to my ribs right after. Lets just say i sat down for a second.
the Ong Bak fight stance was the Boran stance as she said... it's the precursor to Muay Thai. :) great video!
When you see Tony Jaa in movies .It not muaythai style for sport. You heard her talk about "muaythai boran"(for kill in war) In thai have muaythai boran 5 style
- muay chaiya(south)
- muay lopburey(central region)
- muay taa-saou(North)
- muay korat (Northeast)
- muay pa-la-sig-sa (capital)
Tony Jaa uses muay korat style (his hometown) it has a wider range than other tyres.
Well come to Thailand.
wow
Tony Jaa actually does Muay Boran which is an I won’t say advanced but flexed kind of Muay Thai. The dude’s a legend
Thank you for your feedback on these movies! Love Tony Jaa and he was the influence for me to learn Thai.
Only learned it for 1yr but would love to get back into it. And with that Fast/ Furious movie, I'm sorry but Paul Walker against Jaa wasn't that believable because Jaa would have taken him out in one or two hits!
Paul was actually doing a lot of BJJ but yes, Jaa would take him out.
no he would't. Paul had the plot armor.
@@szcxp2166 Paul didn’t his character did.
Exactly what me and my brother said😂😂😂🤗