How To Defeat Muay Thai The Sanda Way
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- An amazing Muay Thai vs Sanda match from the third time in the 2000s that the two styles met. In this match, Sanda all-star Li Hai Ming shows off superior side kicks (chasson lateral), equal clinch-fighting ability, and amazing throws. Let's see how sanda dismantles Muay Thai in this pro five round showdown! Leave your comments and let us know what else you saw in this ultimate style v style clash!
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0:00 Round 1 Analysis
3:14 Round 2 Analysis
6:23 Round 3 Analysis
9:48 Round 4 Analysis
12:53 Round 5 Analysis
16:04 Post-fight thoughts 
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Thanks to viewer Andrew, we have figured out that the Muay Thai guy is Rungchai Makate. So Rungchai Makate vs Li Hai Ming.
I do not believe that is rare to se a thai boxer lost in a fight against Sanda, there is actually a lot of videos out here on youtube, make sure to watch the early 2000 fight challenge between those Rivals, there is also challenges between Sanda and karate koshinkai, i remember one of the raison that made me chose Sanda was those challenges, i my self made many other styles suffering while sparring...it depends also on the athletes abilities to define its own style.
Strongly recommend you to watch Lui hailong, you are going to admire his style.
I trained Sanda in Beijing Sport University for 2 weeks. I could not believe how every fighter (big or small) threw a perfect sidekick. It was amazing!
That sidekick is extremely effective and devastating in street fight, i like it more than the Teep although i train MT first.
@@highcountrydelatiteWhat a ridiculous comment 😂
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Multiple MMA champions across the world have been Sanda fighters. It’s a very practical style.
@@highcountrydelatiteMuay Thai is useless
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FALSE: There are high ranked UFC and ONE FC fighters that train Sanda like Zhang Weili, Zabit Magomedsharipov, Muslim Salikhov, Cung Le, Song Yadong, etc.
Famous Muay Thai fighters Saenchai and Buakaw have both lost to Chinese Sanda fighters (Kong & Yi Long) in the past.
As a Muay Thai fighter, that take down look very useful in a fight. But the sanda kick looks risky. The leg take down from the sanda guy looked very simple I like it.
But hey who doesn’t want to learn that sanda kick it looks sick and if I’m going to be honest I think every striker who doesn’t do grappling should learn that take down or learn how to defend against it
From what I understand, Thai fighters like to keep the art as pure as possible. Maybe that has something to do with it?
The Sanda kick that looks risky, is that the "sidekick" you're speaking of?
MT fans when the fight ruleset is restrictive to their techniques: if you let us use our full arsenal, you'd be dead
MT fans when the ruleset lets their opponent use their full arsenal: >:(
This is the best ruleset for strikers trying to test the waters to transition to MMA.
A bit untested atm but Weili and Yadong are monsters.
@@keion_arknightswhen Cung Le switched from sanshou to MMA, he was getting everybody with kick catches and sidekicks. If he had much better has, he’d have been very successful in the UFC
Zhang Weili might have competed in sanshou, but she doesn’t really fight in a sanshou style. Yan more so, at least with her standup strategy.
I don’t know if Sun has any sanshou background
E: i think Zabit was one of the best representatives of sanshou. A tad strike centric. Muslim Salikhov is really solid, but doesn’t have the physical tools to be champion level
@@mengmao5033 Weili definitely fights like a Sanda fighter, especially highlighting her as one of the few that uses side kicks a lot.
@@keion_arknights she doesn’t use any kick catches or trips. I mean you certainly don’t have to too be successful in sanda competition, but those are hallmarks of the Chinese sport school style
@@mengmao5033 Huh? She's caught kicks in basically every fight she's been in since becoming a champ, besides the first Rose fight and maybe Carla.
finally you get to showcase Sanda. Sanda guy was technically much better and smarter than the Muah Thai guy. Even though he was gassed out early, he was able to pick and chose when he engaged and controlled distance very well. Stayed clear of mid range where the MT guy wouldve been strongest. Neutralised MT guy in close up with knees and throws and controlled the long range with his fast side kicks. ..and was able to bridge long and close up by intercepting MT guy as he opened up with punch. Very smart fighter.
Thank you! More sanda please, Jerry!!
Jeeeeeeeeezzzzz! Those side kicks to the face look scary!
Nice muay thai vs Sanda analysis. Have you ever watched Eduard Folayang vs John Wayne Parr?? Another Muay Thai vs Sanda fight but it's under muay thai rules. Would love to hear your commentary on that video. And the good news is that fight is free here on RUclips.
Thanks for that lead. I will check it out!
The Muay Thai guy was intimidated by Grappling here, I think the Muay Thai technique is perfect from a Striking point of view but the lack of Grappling skills is the biggest weakness.
Muay Thai has an in-depth clinch fighting system.
@@KeyserSoze23 Yes, but it wasn't being utilized as well against someone who could do take downs.
@@user-il9ze9py8c I agree it wasn't and it did appear like the Thai fighter did no prep to take on a Sanda fighter.
@@KeyserSoze23 I'm not saying that to disparage MT or this fighter, it's just that every style has holes in its game.
muay thai is only perfect if it's kicking+tanking, and opponent is in a pain contest with you. An opponent who prioritizes manoeuvrability, angles, footwork, spacing/distance immediatley spells trouble for muay thai. In modern day, the only hope muay thai guy has against them is that they didn't train/condition properly (lucky that many modern fighters actually aren't conditioned). In terms of striking, combine movement+angles with high level punching (e.g., boxing), and it also overwhelms muay thai kicks (a muay thai guy went from pro boxing back to muay thai and did that and became champ easily, kicks are too slow and easy to step away from, then close distance and let hands rip from all angles). the sanda guy here didn't have the punches, so he just used the 2nd option which is throws/trips. again messes up muay thai easily.
muay thai kicking only works if your opponent can't take the hits and tries to fight you by charging straight forward. or it works if the opponent can't even take a few hits. but if the opponent is conditioned and uses the above fighting style/method, it's easy advantage against muay thai style.
the reason muay thai looked really tough modern day is because most modern fighters debut with fragile bodies and they can't even tank a few kicks.
Nice performance from the Wushu/Sanda guy.
Jia Aoqi vs Tawanchai is a more interesting example of bouncy, TMA style footwork tricking an elite nak muay (even if the finish was done with boxing). You should check that one out FCB
super interesting. thanks.
Those throws are amazing!
LETS GO SANDA 💪💪
14:41 looks more like run the pipe, in Chinese it's called xuanyashuai (旋压摔； xuányāshuāi, whirling pressing takedown). Also cool to see another modern Wushu Taolu guy turned Sanda fighter get some shine 😜
It's insane how well some grappling fares against not much grappling (but the clench of course).
I think you’re not giving credit to mastery of the clinch range to Thai fighters and MT practitioners in general. I trained in sanshou, and going up against MT people of similar experience, I would get handled in the clinch. My teep would basically be worthless offensively, and I struggled to deal with theirs
@@mengmao5033 Clench AND take downs. How would you stack the grappling ability of the average sanda practitioner against the average MT practitioner? Obviously MT is one of the cornerstones of MMA, and one of the most practical striking arts, but nothing is flawless.
@@user-il9ze9py8cfrom a distance, they have a solid edge. They can keep their head out of trouble, eat something to the body, but will finish the throw and hopefully end up on score and fight momentum. From just outside clinch range, they need to make some adjustments for not competing with knees. In the clinch, they will be really inexperienced with the elbow possibilities. Can still dump/leg trip really fast, but a leg sweep would be something most Thais would be more than ready for.
Only recently heard about Sanda through sensei seth's video. It's actually really awesome seeing it in practice. I would've liked to see more elbows but, it was a good display from both fighters, the sidekick is super interesting being a mix between a hook kick & traditional sidekick.
Also I don't know how you mistook Sanda to be Japanese lol.
I remember watching this fight
More Muay Thai please
2:07 to catch that in a live fight first attempt, sanda guy is legit (but punching needs work). assuming you're conditioned to take the kicks, step 1 to counter MT is angles/footwork, then it's slipping/backstepping into throws or counter punches.
still the old school sanda guys throw much more ferocious punches and knees, and they can tank hits better. muay thai guy would've been in huge trouble against a good agile boxer who can defend kicks too.
muay thai wants them to stand and stalk like a tank. only works if the opponent tries to push them back at their own game.
as a fighting art, muay thai style is pretty 1 dimensional. their effectiveness in modern times is mainly because modern fighters are weak and fragile. however, even a fragile fighter in modern times can use footwork, angles, punches/throws to overwhelm them (punches assuming they can land and transfer the power of each punch properly).
I do Muay Thai but i would love to train Sanda!!! This style is so baddass and I love that they use diverse kicks and have takedowns. In my opinion this makes it much better than muay thai
Maluco! Má que China mais sacana esse daí! O cara deu trabalho pro Nak Muay
That sanda guy looks pretty fast
ok, but what are takedowns worth if the floor doesn't hurt (suspended plywood), and you are not allowed to follow-up?
If i have to hazard a guess,Savate beats Muay Thai through longer range kicking and combo,while Sanda is better in the clinch as they have extensive wrestling skill.
I wonder,can Panantukan or Yaw Yan beat Muay Thai?
I will look for matches involving Panantukan and Yaw Yan. If you find any, please let me know too!
@@FightCommentary this one right here is about panantukan vs boxing
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That was Thai guy is Rungchai he is a legend.
Thank you for the name! I couldn't figure out the name from the Chinese pronunciation!
So this Sanda guy is a legend level😮
@@gokuworld if that’s what you think 🤔
@gokuworld no he's fighting under his rule set which restricts thr muay thai guy
Hpw does it restrict muay thai?@mo-em1ke
I feel like these two styles are very similar but have their own unique appeals. When it comes to that, it becomes dependent on the individual rather than the style itself.
現代的泰拳打法也都進化了.偏向空手道了.影片的泰拳手看起來是傳統泰拳.坦克型.我自己覺得以前的泰拳比賽都比較像兩台坦克對撞
Why are Muay Thai fanbois so hurt in the comment section? Can't take the L I see. No wonder Dave Leduc likes to dump on Thai and their biased attitude towards their art so much 😂😂😂.
Dave Leduc is a clown who couldn't make it in the high level MT scene and ran to Burma to fight men half his size. Get better heroes.
@@KeyserSoze23don’t forget he also trained and learnt the art at tiger Muay Thai years ago. Strange how nobody mentions that.
leduc is a loser who cant compete in muay thai lol, why do you think he practices in a country that's literally in a civil war. Dude cant compete in an actual competitive environment.
Old Muay Thai was almost identical to Lethwei though they just added more rules to the modern MT
I'm not seeing these comments. Spend more time learning to fight and less time being a nuisance.
Were elbows not allowed?
The best stand up imo is a combination of both.
Look at Choy Li Fut. That is best for fighting multiple people.
EVERY SUPERHERO NEEDS A GOOD SIDE-KICK! SANDA NUMBER 1 LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
Did everyone miss the groin shot at the start? No wonder red shorts had such an advantage, the first thing he did was kick blue in the nuts
The best example of Sanda in MMA are new wave caucass guys. Like Zabit, Umar & Usman Nurmagomedov. I'd love to see you break down their kicks.
This is fake and staged. Muay Thai always wins and laughs at other martial arts. Muay Thai is the best martial art!
Jk. I just wanna pretend to be the toxic Muay Thai guy in denial.
No
It's still a god-tier striking martial art though.
@user-il9ze9py8c true and the same can be said for others like sanda, kyokushin etc
Keyboard warrior 😂
That was not a sidekick at the beginning that stopped the fighter… he got a solid knee strike to the balls! It’s a wonder he could continue!
Cung lee was the strongest sanda fighter ever but born too long ago sadly
cung lee had touched sanda, but he is a truly mixed martial artist, in his childhood he was already a black belt in tae kwan do, he is an wrestling expert. he also learned karate, judo, muay thai. he is not a real sanda guy
@@hongjiang3601 Sanda is a hybrid martial art that include these martial arts too
@@hongjiang3601cung le did sanda for at least 8 years minimum. I’d say he more than just touched on it. Especially that his background were the arts that make up sanda
@@hongjiang3601his fighting tactics that he brought to MMA, for sure the biggest stage he competed on, was almost straight sanshou. For all the wrestling he did, he didn’t use it much offensively. Instead he was content with very strong linear kicks and, in his era, virtually unknown kick catch counters
I don't think Cung Le would touch Liu Hai Long......the KING OF SANDA
Sanda is no joke. Basically pressure tested Chinese martial arts…
I can now see where Usman Nurmagomedov Bellator's LW Champ and his brother took this "japping with feet" technique from
Gabriel Varga did a review of Tawanchai's hybrid of the teep and side kick. It's worth the watch.
when people use side kicks, the opponent uses side kicks more too lol. The human is just a pile of mimicry, we are conditioned to want to do back what is done to us.
this does not imply that sanda is better than muay thai. it just means this guy is very good, better than his opponent. there are many videos too showing that sanda lost to muay thai or other martial art. And so as muay thai, winning, and losing.
True- you have to admit though, that conceptually, it does make a lot of sense to mitigate one of their strong points (the clinch) with stand up wrestling and takedowns.
Obviously, it comes down to the fighter, but it'd be remiss not to point out that it's a good strategy, and that Sanda is quite well configured for pulling off that strategy.
How To Defeat Muay Thai THE MUAY THAI RULES!!! NO PADS!!!
you dont need to commentate i feel like if you just break the footage down the quality will be much better
If a Wing Chun fighter adds Sanda to his arsenal, it becomes JKD in my opinion.
It’s obvious that the Thai Boxer is limited by the rules. No elbows and no flying knees. The Thai boxer is frustrated because he cannot use his full arsenal. This is why kickboxers beat Thai boxers in the early days.
Sanda-Guy Li Hai Ming it's kind of Bruce Lee . He kick when is need to kick , punch when is need , judo when is necessary ... so complete fighter . In the street Muay Tai guy is killed on the first exchange . So , it's true : "don't let your opponent to show his kung fu ..." . Yeah , muay tai have rules ...sorry for them . Don't think elbows help much , cose barely punched . Li Hai Ming is pretty good , knows his shit good , rare to see . His (back) side kick is fantastic , very fast , accurate (ggod direction) , need to study a little more about penetration from Bruce Lee (wing chun) , KO guarantee . Good stamina and endurance for Li Hai Ming . Muay Tai want you to stay still because only then he can low-kick you ...this is all a I know and throw some punches .
Title should read 1 fighter beats another..
Saying sanda beats muay thai is to suggest it always does, which simply wouldn't be true.
I bet if the Thai guy won you wouldn't say that you would just say Sanda sucks
This commentator is funny 8:20
this was a great balanced match with much technique and skill shown from both fighters but obviously the Sanda fighter landed more blows and more techniques including sweeps and takedowns. HOWEVER, the true purpose of fighting even in a martial artistic way..is to get a mf off ya ass! The Sanda fighter was excellent and was really impressive but when you analyze it, after 8 min in and after all the side kick-jabs to the head, the scoops, sweeps and other blows landed, the Muay Thai fighter STILL got right back up and didn't look damaged at all...now lets just say n a regular boxing match with a fighter as skilled as the Sanda in ONLY boxing, mannnn dude shoulda had a few black eyes, been knocked down and knocked out by 8 min
For striking/hybrid system only Sanda and sambo can stand with Muay thai. Imo. Lethwei too*
Sambo it's nothing against Muay Thai in striking they only win if use Wrestling.
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh But it works...
nah, Lethwei is above Muay Thai. It's way more brutal and violent.
@@user-il9ze9py8c because the grappling skills, Sambo are effetive but in pure striking Muay Thai it's the King.
@@user-il9ze9py8c who Many Sambo Guys are Champion in Glory, K1 where we have the bests strikers in the planet ?
Its literally seem Muay thai vs Muaythai + other tactics.
Low kick? Middle kick? ... Uppercuts? MT guy come on...
Your voice is goofy
Aea
not ko uchi, tai otoshi
It looks like Tani Otoshi as the throw happened in the rear and he used his head to push against his midsection to off balance the opponent
Why Thai men are not commenting here? 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
This is just a 1 match that results depends on many things such as fighter skill or rule, but one thing in this match is elbow was prohibited, can you tell me why Muay Thai fighter can't use elbow? so, you should say this is non elbow Muay Thai vs Sanda who can use Muay Thai knee. 😅
@@ATPStudio55 elbow doesn't need to be conditioned like shin, and Non thai man are so good in using elbow to cut opponent face so they don't use elbow.
MT guy coming out very un-Thai with the fake glove touch
广东体育台😂
Sanda is very similar to karate
no, its not
Thai men hate that they lose to Sanda 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Why do Thai people have to hate this? this is just a 1 match that results depends on many things such as fighter skill or rule, but one thing in this match is elbow was prohibited, can you tell me why Muay Thai fighter can't use elbow? so, you should say this is non elbow Muay Thai vs Sanda who can use Muay Thai knee. 😅
@@ATPStudio55elbow doesn't need to conditioned like shin, and Non thai men are very good in using elbow strikes to cut opponent face so they don't use elbow.
lol that cheap shot at the start though. why even bother to walk up and touch gloves?
This guy shouldve fought Buakaw...not that other loser 😂😂
The muay thai fighter doesn't look like a great kicker/clincher
The muay thai fighter wasn't very good
You can’t beat Muay Thai if you don’t let them use elbows. The CCP has been trying for years but they will never beat Buakaw.
How to beat Mauy Thai the Sanda way :
Challenge the crappies Muay Thai Fighters with your best Sanda fighters.
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BRIBE the fighter of otherwise fix the fight.
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Lol, salty muay thai fanboys
That muay thai fighter is a legend 😂
@Speedofdark339 No one is salty. It's just the truth.
While I am on the subject and speaking with an obvious Chinese BullShiDo lover , I have something else to say :
Notice Chinese dressed up as Japanese and pretending / trying to fool people into thinking they really are Japanese.
This will only fool the ignorant and uninformed, and never anyone who knows anything about Japan at all !!!
I know much about Japan, Hong Kong, And The Mainland ; so I notice this bs when I see it.
• btw I obviously love China and Chinese culture.
●[ In case my username didn't give it away to you. ]●
• However, even though I love china , I will never support the bs that comes out of China!¡!
•Each and every single traditional Chinese martial art is a complete joke, and everyone knows it !
•We even have guys like *"The Mad Dog Xu XiaoDong"* who are out wrecking TCMA "practitioner's."
China has seriously lost so much face over the TCMA - BullShiDo kerfuffle ; that they seriously started playing dress up in karate uniforms, [ Gi's ] and Hakama !¡!
• They Are Trying to decieve people into thinking that the Japanese have those BS "No Touch Masters" like they do.
★ It is absolutely pitiful, shameful, & Disgusting that they would try to do such a thing !¡!
☆ Other Times They ♠︎Pretend♠︎ their no touch "masters" are dominating karate, judo, jujitsu, etc. Japanese practitioner's... meanwhile they are really Mr. Wáng, Mr. Lì, & Mr.Chén !¡!
[ ♠︎ is to be read as DECIEVE ]
★ IDK why they do this because they ; In An Attempt To Save Face, are losing even more face then they already had !¡!
[ To those who are Knowledgable about Either country ]
*I can only assume that it is propaganda for the uninformed foreigner who knows nothing about either country, or possibly footage to assist in scamming of their own people !¡!*
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If the sanda guy Throws MT guy in the street, guess who will survie after the first throwing. Check the MT guy's name, he is aint nobody, he is a legend.
@@Speedofdark339Thai men are so arrogant, they think they are the best fighter 😁😁😁😁
@@evoplus7569Thai men are so arrogant, they think they are the best fighters 😁😁😁😁😁
Remove those elbow pads and you'll know how weak that bootleg copy cat Muay Thai style called is
Elbow doesn't need to be conditioned like shin, and Non thai men are very good in using elbow to cut opponent face so they use elbow.
Sanda is combination of what is effective in chinese kungfu and boxing, Not everything is muay thai.
What is wrong with this muay thai guy. Just attack him already. One two hit, then stop. Waste time chasing sanda guy. He doesnt have pacific skill to use. He does a good heavy punch, then stop never use it again. He does a good heavy kick, then stop. Then he just waste time chasing. So frustrating to watch. Most of the muay thai fighter, that chase. That is your moment to attack. Leave them with zero opening. All this guy do is walk and walk. Doesnt use the training hours of kick and punching. Doesnt do combo punch or combo kick. He got a good hit in so many time, but just stop in the middle. Am like, WHY?. Then it came to me, he might be in the mind set. Of old traditional muay thai ring mind set. Kind of his own fault for not prepare for this.
sanda won by takedowns lolz so it's nothing
Sanda guy dominates shuai jiao
People have been sleeping on Sanda for too long…
Sanda rules is only for Sanda fighters. Run around the ring (boring!) and win the fight.