Hey Aaron, this was super helpful. I am a Still photographer. I get hired for weddings, events, performances and some corporate. Occasionally I get the request to do video, even if just to provide a 30-60sec overall edits (built from multiple short clips etc), something for the Instagram reel etc. These requests often don't require audio even (some cheesy music overlay is fine). So I have been wondering how to best provide this service going forward because I cannot turn my XH2S into a full video rig and do Stills as well (it becomes an issue of practicality and weight that you carry with you for the day). I even came across 'Gyroflow' recently but alas XH2S is not providing Gyro data :( If you're ever stuck for a content idea for your channel, maybe do some kind of 'sensible video settings' and technique for us true hybrid shooters out there, I think would make for an interesting video. Stuff like 'what to choose to make the quick access 'Rec button' do', what to have the camera configured for low light or plenty light etc, and how to go about that so that all your clips from the day can be steered towards a similar rendering vibe. I often shoot flog2, but then as you point out you will need ND filters with 1250ISO when faced with plenty of light. But then in low light (indoors) flog2 can be natively ok without even needing ND filters. But if during editing I am left with some flog 1, flog 2 and some film sim (because I needed ISO 160 because it was very bright!), then what would be a good strategy to adopt for these every changing scenarios we face? Really enjoying your channel, keep up the good work.
That is a great idea for a video! Thanks for sharing thoughts there. I have noticed that I don't run into the issue of needing ND with flog1. On a rare occasion I would need to stop down to 2.8 or maybe 4 but that would be just a shot or 2. Flog2 is a different story and you'll want to plan to use ND filters in that case. But Flog1 is a pretty good middle ground - especially when hybrid shooting. Glad you are enjoying the content. Looking forward to seeing you around!
Thanks for this video! Ive been filming weddings for 10 years and never owned a VND :) Always wondered if I should be but I’ll wonder a little less now. Thanks Aaron! And you’re right about clients not noticing.
Totally! I feel like the people that have been around for a while know this little secret - it’s not as noticeable as most people make it out to be. It won’t ruin your footage!
It’s funny because I’ve been thinking about this recently. I find I prefer the results of high shutter speed over the results of the ND filter that has a lot of recommendations and wasn’t cheap and yet had massive color cast… As you talk about in the video it’s good to just know when you need to use specific tools when you need them.
Yeah totally! Learn the rules, then break them. If you haven’t had any luck with VND filters, for stuff that calls for it, you should give some high quality ND filters a try. They shouldn’t have much color cast. Downside is that you have to change them based off the amount of ND you need. But worth it if it’s a high production set when you can plan and light
The Nisi VND is amazing. Besides giving a perfect image (no color cast or vinetting) the reason I like it is because I get no exposure stepping in my video. Without the VND any change in my aperture I would get the exposure stepping and that can also ruin a shot.
Hang on a minute - you want smoother footage. The 180 degree rule is based on facts - and is also promoted by RED; not RUclipsrs. If you crank up the shutter speed it means the image taken per frame lasts a shorter amount of time - and the distance between each image is longer. Hence introduces horrible jitter and reduces the smoothness. I am not sure I get your point here - to maybe I am being stupid.
You might be overthinking it. I am saying that it is "technically" correct. But it is also not the most important thing when capturing a moment - especially in documentary (particularly wedding) work. More times than I can count I have seen people have a horrible issue because a poor quality VND, but I had a 6 figure wedding video business from not using VND for the majority of weddings. It's a small detail that is worth investing in when you can, but in many cases, not worth it. If you are using a RED, you have the budget for proper ND and the clientele for the need to use it.
Awesome channel man. Didn’t realize you were from by the millers 🙈🙈🙈
Would love to see a video about all the gear u use on a wedding day 😊
Hey Aaron, this was super helpful.
I am a Still photographer. I get hired for weddings, events, performances and some corporate. Occasionally I get the request to do video, even if just to provide a 30-60sec overall edits (built from multiple short clips etc), something for the Instagram reel etc. These requests often don't require audio even (some cheesy music overlay is fine). So I have been wondering how to best provide this service going forward because I cannot turn my XH2S into a full video rig and do Stills as well (it becomes an issue of practicality and weight that you carry with you for the day). I even came across 'Gyroflow' recently but alas XH2S is not providing Gyro data :(
If you're ever stuck for a content idea for your channel, maybe do some kind of 'sensible video settings' and technique for us true hybrid shooters out there, I think would make for an interesting video. Stuff like 'what to choose to make the quick access 'Rec button' do', what to have the camera configured for low light or plenty light etc, and how to go about that so that all your clips from the day can be steered towards a similar rendering vibe.
I often shoot flog2, but then as you point out you will need ND filters with 1250ISO when faced with plenty of light. But then in low light (indoors) flog2 can be natively ok without even needing ND filters. But if during editing I am left with some flog 1, flog 2 and some film sim (because I needed ISO 160 because it was very bright!), then what would be a good strategy to adopt for these every changing scenarios we face?
Really enjoying your channel, keep up the good work.
That is a great idea for a video! Thanks for sharing thoughts there.
I have noticed that I don't run into the issue of needing ND with flog1. On a rare occasion I would need to stop down to 2.8 or maybe 4 but that would be just a shot or 2. Flog2 is a different story and you'll want to plan to use ND filters in that case. But Flog1 is a pretty good middle ground - especially when hybrid shooting.
Glad you are enjoying the content. Looking forward to seeing you around!
Thanks for this video! Ive been filming weddings for 10 years and never owned a VND :) Always wondered if I should be but I’ll wonder a little less now. Thanks Aaron! And you’re right about clients not noticing.
Totally! I feel like the people that have been around for a while know this little secret - it’s not as noticeable as most people make it out to be. It won’t ruin your footage!
It’s funny because I’ve been thinking about this recently. I find I prefer the results of high shutter speed over the results of the ND filter that has a lot of recommendations and wasn’t cheap and yet had massive color cast… As you talk about in the video it’s good to just know when you need to use specific tools when you need them.
Yeah totally! Learn the rules, then break them. If you haven’t had any luck with VND filters, for stuff that calls for it, you should give some high quality ND filters a try. They shouldn’t have much color cast. Downside is that you have to change them based off the amount of ND you need. But worth it if it’s a high production set when you can plan and light
The Nisi VND is amazing. Besides giving a perfect image (no color cast or vinetting) the reason I like it is because I get no exposure stepping in my video. Without the VND any change in my aperture I would get the exposure stepping and that can also ruin a shot.
I like the NISI one the best for sure! And yes, smooth exposure changes are super nice!
Very much agreed! 👍
Hang on a minute - you want smoother footage. The 180 degree rule is based on facts - and is also promoted by RED; not RUclipsrs. If you crank up the shutter speed it means the image taken per frame lasts a shorter amount of time - and the distance between each image is longer. Hence introduces horrible jitter and reduces the smoothness. I am not sure I get your point here - to maybe I am being stupid.
You might be overthinking it. I am saying that it is "technically" correct. But it is also not the most important thing when capturing a moment - especially in documentary (particularly wedding) work. More times than I can count I have seen people have a horrible issue because a poor quality VND, but I had a 6 figure wedding video business from not using VND for the majority of weddings. It's a small detail that is worth investing in when you can, but in many cases, not worth it.
If you are using a RED, you have the budget for proper ND and the clientele for the need to use it.
Interesting take. I crank my shutter when the dance floor open up to the guest.
I usually never have enough light to not be 1/48 haha
@@itsaaronmiller lol I just crank my iso to keep the 180 degree shutter rule.
I use free well NDs, I have no issues with them.
Yep freewell and NISI are generally pretty good. I've seen slight color cast with freewell but not too bad.
how dare you!
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