We Have to Talk About **PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN**
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Promising young woman movie commentary
FOR ANYONE WANTING TO AVOID THE LAST DEATH SCENE 24:30 is where all clips of that death are shown (very minor clips shown but still if you do not want to see) and 24:55 is where it stops!!!
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Trin, you should watch Spontaneous!!! 💖💖💖💖
Trin, you should watch Spontaneous!!! 💖💖💖💖
Trin, you should watch Spontaneous!!! 💖💖💖💖
Trin, you should watch Spontaneous!!! 💖💖💖💖
“It’s every guys worst nightmare being accused of something like that.”
“Can you guess what every women’s worst nightmare is?”
Such a simple line but so powerful as well.
Ugh I it give some chills EVERY time
but also, like what does he mean??? if you're worst nightmare is getting accused of this then don't fucking do it, like the discrepancy between his worse nightmare being something that is so easily avoidable and every women worst nightmare being a reality, and something completely beyond their control and him not seeing how nonsensical he's being
@@EthelBH don't get me wrong... her worst nightmare is far far worst, with that being said, it's POSSIBLE (although very unlikely) there's mistaken identity or the more likely - two people casually drinking and the guy not knowing or realizing when someone has drunk too much (especially if he drunk too much himself)
No excuse,
@@nunnie768 ig you’re talking about how easy it is but it’s more so the wording. Like why is that your biggest fear? Its super suspicious that you’d be so worried about being falsely accused if you really had nothing to hide. If you partner was an absolute nut job and a pathological liar maybe I’d understand but for some random guy it’s just really suspicious
@@Denturess yeah saying it's your "biggest fear" is ridiculous, and they're guys out there looking to take advantage of people. the "scary" part (if any) for a genuinely good guy is - that the woman doesn't have to be a nut job, or even a pathological liar. you could just be a guy causally drinking, hooking up, and unknowingly misread the situation.
When a woman is killed in a feminicide or r*ped , I hate when people say “she was someone’s daughter” as if she wasn’t her own person. Her life was valuable because she was a human being, not because she "belonged to someone”.
The comment she was someone’s daughter isn’t to say that she was valuable because she was owned by someone, I don’t know if you know this, but parents don’t own their kids. That statement is made to better empathize with the person and situation. Most people don’t really see how devastating themselves dying would be to others, so saying that she is someone’s daughter, brings into perspective how horrible it is, since no one wants to loose a their child.
@@rohegarcia2802 Please don't be so dense. It's unbecoming.
THIS!
If a man were murdered, there would be a body and therefore absolutely zero doubt that a murder had been committed. Show me an example in which that kind of "imagine if..." statement was used in a case in which a women was murdered.
@@rohegarcia2802 you really did just excuse that saying.... girl
And they purposely cast the guys from movies and tv shows where they played the cute/safe/trusting guy, to let our own implied biases give us a shock
@Phoenix Girl
Adam Brody does have some very famous roles where he plays a nice/likable character like The OC or his role on Gilmore Girls, I actually forgot he was in ready or not since I didn't watch the movie
Honestly I love LOVE how Emerald Fennel chose to cast beloved sitcom actors in order to defy everything we thought we knew about spotting the 'nice guy'. Also the pastel palette ? The avoidance of violence from Cass until the ending? The brutal, un-sugar coated ending? This isn't your average bloody male gazey female revenge movie. This was created by a woman
the soundtrack being only women and pure bubblegum pop. ugh this movie is so unapologetically feminine and i love it
I've heard some people say that Cassie was too overdramatic to leave med school and all because of Nina. However, imagine that you go to college and every day see the happy smug faces of the people who caused your best friend, your sister, to kill herself. I'd lose faith in humanity too
And that these people will be seen as hero’s in the eyes of all their patients, family and friends.
Shes not overdramatic shes condescending, people probably couldn't stand her bad attitude.
@@jodielou
Like cassie is a straight up monster but people act like shes such a victim utter bullshit.
Exactly. I went to school with my old best friend's r*pist for a year, and I was miserable. Even though I never had any negative experiences with him, it was just horrible to see him every day knowing what he had done. I understand why Cassie left.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 And all the rapists and rapists apologists in this movie are such saints right?
The casting director wanted men who have played innocent/nice characters to make the movie goers look like they played nice guys again in this movie.
I really liked this movie. Some people say they hated the ending but I think it's because you were thinking nah that wouldn't happen but it did. Hope Carey wins the oscar
That’s actually so good. (Casting) reminded me of Zac Efron as Ted Bundy
I dont think everyone hated the ending, just the whole r4pe revenge trope.
The girls to, getting Connie and Alisson who always played nice girls and thoughtful wives
yeah I was like omg there's bo Burnam and Schmitt from new girl it was effective in making the character completely different from their past roles
Not just the casting director, but the writer wanted guys that were “nice guys” in other things, to play the role of the guy who does this - because it IS those “nice guys”. People have visions in their heads of what a rapist or murder look like & the cold hard truth (a lot of the time) is, they’re every day guys that are called “nice guys” by people that know them outside of the victim.
"The accusation could ruin the man's life" is such a horrible thing to say. As if the woman's life isn't already ruined by that man
Exactly! It's like, I'm sorry you get some bad looks on the street and a harsher look into your employment. But victims look over their shoulder at night, trembling in fear. Some get startled and terrified when touched unannounced, some try to disappear as much as possible, they become insecure, they see themselves in the mirror and break out into a panic attack because they see invisible handprints, or feel invisible heat, or pain. It is hell to be a survivor every day.
But hey! No one looks at me hatefully, most people don't even know in fear that they will judge my inability to protect myself and want some sort of attention for some messed up reason.
The pitying looks are a pain when they know, but that's just the cherry on the mess that is sexual assault. I'm just one of many, and I was lucky to have it easier than others.
It's also untrue. There are so many cases where the rapists don't get convicted due to lack of evidence. Nothing happens to them. And then they go on to assault more - Bill Cosby, Larry Nasaar, Weinstein. That statement is a red herring, meant to derail the conversations about rape. It also tries to silence victims into not coming forward, which is already a huge problem. So if you ever hear someone say this genuinely, I would stay the fuck away from them. Its malicious.
Also...like they ruined their own life if the accusation is true
Yeah, but it's even worse when the accused turns out to be innocent, after all. They're fucked forever.
@Hammonds Studios are you serious?
TW:// the reason why the death scene is so long is because 1. that’s how long it takes to suffocate someone. 2. so that we. the audience can see that what he did was not “self defense”. 3. so that we can hear her last breaths. 4. now she is faceless. we never see her face for the rest of the movie. she is JUST a victim in the way that most victims of violence at the hands of men are.
also, the lovable recognizable men were casted intentionally so that we could see how likable guys could be active participants in this kind of shit.
AND the scheduled txt messages were there because cassie knew the risk of going to an all-male bachelorette party to pursue a man that could/would/did physically overpower her.
@@siako8112 I feel like women underestimate how strong a man can be, even if he doesn't seem like it. So it is a great risk to try and fight them face to face, even if they are tied up. So it was important to show a scenario of what could truly happen in reality, instead of just turning her into superwoman which can have an impact on the actions of the viewer.
@@Kzzhzzk i don't think anyone underestimates how strong men can be... that really should not be the takeaway from this conversation
@@Kzzhzzk but she did anticipate how strong he would be, hence the scheduled messages
I also kind of loved how they never showed Cassie's dead body, like as soon as she died I was half expecting to see her face in a dramatic shot where she somehow still looked beautiful in death because that's what normally happens... but they never sexualised her dead body at all, and I loved the respect they gave her in death. It was such a small thing but meant so much
Not only do we not see Cassie’s face after her death. But emerald never showed the video of Nina’s assault, compared to way too many pieces of media showing assaults as a main scene these days.
In a way, the moment Cassie died, she was just another nameless victim just like Nina.
@@mattlibra3139 I can't stand assault scenes in movies and tv shows. I was so glad this movie didn't show it to us.
@@mattlibra3139 Choosing not to show the video was genius and it proves you can make a film/show about r*pe without portraying the horrific act (contrary to what some r*pe fetishists argue). I still felt sick and got a chill down my spine just hearing the audio, and Cassie's reaction to it.
The fact that they never showed her face again after she was killed I thought was purposeful. She became another "anonymous" victimized woman. As in, this could be anybody. It could happen to anyone
One thing I love about Promising Young Woman (one of my fave movies now) is that it never eroticises sexual assault. In many movies and TV shows that centre around rape, they either focus on it for a concerningly long time, or they use it as character building. Promising Young Woman shows that rape doesn't make women stronger- it crushes them. Both Nina and Cassandra were promising young women- and while the men were allowed to prosper, the women they impacted were not emboldened by their assault but ruined. As a victim myself, it felt kind of cathartic to see how it ruined people rather than making them better.
No not really, they didnt criticize sexual Assault whatsoever
They just demonized the Male gender.
@@elongatedmanforever1252Be silent.
@@FeministCatwoman
And listen to sexist manhaters??
I dont think so.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 why is manhating wrong? Y'all hated us first.
@@FeministCatwoman
What dudes that died 8000 years
Ago?? lol i love it when women
Use that as a excuse to be sexist
I hear that shit all the time and
It always fails to make sense
Its illogical as it gets and
Its evil, its like saying someones
Grandfather did something
Bad a long time ago and
That means the family
Should all be ashamed
Because of his actions
Thats what feminists
Are doing to men its
Sick.
"This will ruin that man's life" Good. that's kinda the whole point honey, they ruined someone else's so it's now their turn for doing so.
The victim didn't ruin the mans life, he ruined his own the second he decided to use someone else's body for his own pleasure without their consent!!!! RAPE ALLEGATIONS DON'T RUIN MENS LIVES, THEY RUIN IT THEMSELVES!
@@Lunabyes I HEARD NOTHING BUT FACTS
@@helpme4611 PERIOD!
@@Lunabyes so true besti !!
What I love is that all the "good guys" justified their actions by their young age, yet every single one of them repeated their exact roles as grown ups.
Al r*p*d Nina and k*lls Cassandra, the active criminal. He blamed both the víctims. The friend(forgot his name) records the first crime and helps cover up the second one, he encorages Al in both, he is the accomplice, not the agressor but just as guilty. Ryan was just walking by when he witnessed what was being done to Nina, and even though he wasnt' an active participant he didnt do anything yo stop it and kept quiet afterwards. Just as he did knowing Casa, HIS GIRLFRIEND went yo the party and what probably happened. Also kept interacting with the criminals like nothing after both events. He is the "not all men" , that even though he loved the women in hisblife ir whatever, he just lets things like that happen submissively knowing it's wrong, just keeps quiet and does nothing yo help, and believes himself when he says he's a good guys like the rest. But he's just another type of accomplice and a coward. Prefers to be at peace with the monsters than have the balls to take action, stand up the women he claims he loved, or even just socially condemning and not associating with them. Literally won't do even the tiniest shit.
And Cassandra, even though she couldnt do anything right away, she won't just take ir, she delt with it even if it meant sacrificing herself and ended up bringing them down. It's a great analogy of a Lot of profiles contexts and dynamics we are discussing nowadays, and the hope un the film is to show that even if it takes time, even if more of us fall, we are no longer silenced, we won't take it anymore. You come at us, and we'll bring You down with us. You *DECIDE* to interfiere with and ruin someone's life by a selfish second of "pleasure"? Well... Be better or be ready.
I love Trin’s reaction to the “imagine if it was your sister/mother/daughter”. So many people use that argument to convince them that assault or r*pe is bad and they should not need to. It IS a horrific thing, regardless of whether you knew them.
Yeah I started thinking of this as a 'you example' because it's always centered around people they know, or something like that and I don't get why it's so hard to care for people without having some kind of personal connection. It annoys me honestly.
You shouldn't have to envision it being your sister or your mother or your daughter to find it sickening!!!!!
@@prsent7787 I like that name. I agree completely. You shouldn’t need a personal connection to realize how bad this is.
@@Lunabyes I agree!!!
I sort of feel like this misses the unfortunate and disturbing reason that the statement is necessary to sway some people. It's not because they don't think r*pe is disgusting or horrible, but a rather unfortunate case of a deep seeded cultural coding of 'the woman as temptress' running head long into attribution bias; more specifically fundamental attribution error.
Attribution bias is a cognitive bias relating to how we evaluate behavior in ourselves and others, with fundamental attribution error referring specifically to how we all tend to view the actions of others as indicators of their disposition rather then resultant of circumstance, with this bias growing more pronounced the less we know about an actor. The popular example is that if YOU or someone YOU KNOW cuts someone off in traffic you're more likely to point to the situation, 'We were running really late', 'I haven't been sleeping well and I guess I misjudged the distance', ect, while if someone else cuts YOU off 'that asshole needs to learn how to drive!' However it is equally applicable to r*pe allegations, where an observer is unfamiliar with either party but has been primed by society at large to wonder if a woman was 'asking for it', which is why 'imagine it was X' is so effective in swaying people; it removes perceived ambiguity of character by saying 'you KNOW your sister wouldn't have been 'asking for it, so why do you think SHE was?' Faced with a challenge to their cognitive bias, which arises from what is essentially a 'mental short cut' we are all wired with, many people realize 'actually, I don't know why I defaulted to that?' and while not everyone follows that to an 'I was wrong' enough people do that the phrase has clearly shown itself to be a successful tool for confronting that mental bias.
TL:DR In short, it's not a phrase arising from a belief that 'r*ape is not bad, actually' or a lack of care for other human beings so much as one targeted towards countering a specific kind of cognitive bias WE ALL possess (Attribution bias; Fundamental attribution error). If we want that to change we need to confront and unravel long held (literally biblical here in 'the west') cultural tropes of women as creatures of temptation to shift the attribution of what I'm going to refer to as 'characteristics of fault' away from the victim. Until that trope is no longer living rent free in our schema of the world 'imagine if it was X' is the best tool we have for confronting and stripping back that bias in people not prone to thinking past it on their own.
I think her dying at the end made the movie way more brutal and emotionaly taxing, but more impactful at the same time. Because when she has him handcuffed you think shes going to win, and suddenly the tides change and she just loses. And it feels this bucket of cold water in your head, like this is reality, not fiction. And thats what happens in reality, she lost and they were going to get away with it.
The whole movie is just slowly making you angrier and angrier like turning a flame up and then her death is like tossing lighter fluid on it
and the way the ending occurs with the scheduled texts just shows how she was aware of the “reality” of the situation and knew she would end up killed/missing :( so powerful
Her dying made me think of all the times murderers have gone "it was an accident" or tried to minimize how much control they had. 2 minutes is such a painfully long time
I thought she knew she would die the whole time. Like that was the only sure way of making sure they go to prison. I also thought everything may have been eating her up inside so she wasn't scared to die.
I have no problem with the fact that she died, but my problem is the timed texts at the end exposing everything to the police. I feel like it kind of tarnished the message of the movie all for a triumphant “got you” moment
literally every scene where the men try to take advantage of her gives me chills because. it’s. so. REALISTIC.
It makes me so uncomfortable because I’ve been there. Like, they really don’t listen. Thankfully, I was never harmed in any way.
Aaaaaa! I am a stripper, and I despise bachelor parties. They’re horrifying, they’re the worst. Luckily we’re usually encouraged to humiliate the groom a bit. That can be fun.
ugh yes!!! i stopped booking for them bc i do not trust men, esp drunk men
stay safe out there!!
@@pebble3951 I promise, I stay safe! Thank you, you guys are so sweet in this comment section :) it warms my heart, lol
@@jamesbuchananbarness God, it’s terrible. And then they try to record you without consent on their phone cameras. Peachy!
Omg! Stay safe please!
The “I was a kid” or “we were just kids” was such a bizarre defense... they were in med school! They were all at least like 22!! Not at all kids????
It's the infantilisation that entitlement gives you.
Plus just an excuse. Men like that don't talk about being "just a kid" while trying to get into a strip club, buy beers or get a car. It's a card you pull out to avoid accountability
it comes from this concept that "men never really grow up", "boys will always be boys". i hate those sayings and i hate even more how normalised they are in our world.
Its the same as boys will be boys. Just excuses for bad behavior.
@@jessicayoung3656 Literally NO ONE says "boys will be boys". Jesus Christ, it's as if you actually think you know what it's like to be a boy. I wouldn't presume to know what it's like to be you, stop presuming to know what it's like to have been me.
@@lancewalker2595 You totally missed the point. Indeed no one says "boys will be boys" to a boy XD why would they?
I felt so weird walking out of this film, I felt physically sick and couldn’t even sleep. But I feel like this film was so effective because it allowed people to really see how sick the reality of these situations often are, they aren’t sugar coated like in a lot of movies. I personally LOVED it, even though it was disturbing
I felt the same exact way.
I walked out sobbing because it shows the culture that means that victims literally have to DIE to get proper fucking justice.
Im glad trin made a video because i was interested in the movie but I know mentally I could not sit down and watch it
YES! That's exactly why I love this raw, disturbing ending! It's more realistic and shows that a lot of these situations don't have a good ending. People who got mad at the movie wanted some revenge fantasy, with a fairy tale ending and then got mad cause they didn't get what they expected. But this was never a movie about a revenge fantasy It's about rape/silence culture in a more realistic way.
People: Adam Brody!
People who have Watched Jennifer’s Body: STAY AWAY SATAN!
Haha true
That’s literally my reaction to him after that movie.
Agreed!
People who have watched the OC: STAY AWAY SATAN!
@Booper Dooper debatable
I really liked the twist with the attorney being haunted over the case. “one drunk photo at a party you wouldn't believe how HATEFUL that makes a jury.” So true
*hostile
They really tricked me with that Ryan twist because I trust Bo Burnham with my heart, I think the casting director knew this
yeah the director/writer said she intentionally casted guys famous for being trustworthy and “nice guys” to show it can be anyone even people you love and trust.
Not me. It was going to well and almost every man in the movie was nasty. Plus, he immediately lead her to his apartment. Even if he was respectful about it, it still left me feeling uneasy.
for real from the get go, i was like ryan is gonna do something wrong but i don’t wanna believe that because i love bo burnham so much
@@trangl8606 same
I knew once he started singing that Paris Hilton song something was up. He was too cute and things were going too well. I still felt so betrayed though. I wanted him to be legit.
I personally really like this movie. However, I've noticed a trend of people, particularly women, hating on it purely because it's not what they wanted. Like, some are getting ANGRY because she wasn't killing people. they keep asking what's the point. All these people just miss the point of the entire movie.
Emerald Fennell has stated multiple times she didn't want to make a stereotypical rape revenge film because it's been done before. She wanted to show how an ordinary woman, not an assassin, would try to take revenge. Calling the movie bad because it's not what you want is just immature. It's fine to not like a film, it's not perfect. But no one has a right to tell her what kind of film she should make.
She wasn't killing the men at the beginning because that's not the story that was being told, It was to show how unproductive and self-destructive Cassie's life had become. Fennell used the end to show what would happen if an ordinary woman tried to act like an assassin. She'd die.
Some films show how life should be. Others show life as it is. This film depicts the latter. The ending is supposed to make you frustrated, she succeeded tenfold.
Precisely. I think this movie was very much needed. We've gotten a lot of rape revenge movies before, but none of them are usually like this.
If anything, this movie is incredibly, incredibly good because of how realistic it is. I cannot believe people are mad that she didn't kill people. I mean, I can believe it, but.. like you said, they're missing the point.
Revenge is very self destructive and this movie does an amazing job of portraying that. Fennell did a wonderful job.
Exactly this. I was upset with the ending, but also glad it went that route because that's how it would be in real life. If a woman were to try and recreate the typical revenge stuff in movies after something traumatic happens, the likelihood of her getting overpowered/overwhelmed by a cornered wolf basically would happen. It wouldn't turn out like it would be in other movies unfortunately.
Instead, there needs to be a calculative approach instead. Gather evidence, trust someone to send it out if anything happens to you by a certain time frame, be strategic! Too many movies are focusing too much on "women must be strong" vs "women must be strategists" because that would definitely get you further in the real world while strength is backup. Cassie let negative emotions consumed her, and unfortunately, died because of it causing her to plan irrationally, but she did came back around with a backup plan in the end because she knew she was thinking irrationally.
This is coming from a woman.
i honestly wouldn’t even consider this movie a rape revenge movie because it wasn’t even from the point of view of a survivor
I remember watching an interview where Emerald Fennell said she originally considered having it end in Cassie getting away safely, but she realized that that really wasn’t realistic considering how many other men were at the party. She really wanted people to realize that this is a realistic story.
@@ninecuevas5127
I wouldn't be surprised she did it like this to prevent women from trying to replicate this like how some girls try to replicate Hannah Baker from 13RW.
Have to hit everyone with a dose of realism.
VERY glad that trin talked about the personalization (or "bringing home") of assault in an attempt to get people to empathize with survivors
Was just going to comment this as well.
I think part of the ending that drives back the point of what law enforcement is good for- none of the people involved actually faced any repercussions UNTIL the crime was murder. Really emphasizes what types of crimes/victims law enforcement deems important enough to act upon.
Exactly!
Right.... Cause with murder there's a body, and the absence of a person that once existed; hence: a crime has OBVIOUSLY been committed.
In my country the only person convicted to life prison in the last years was a girl who killed her boyfriend; meanwhile a judge let a child abuser free because the abuse happened in a dark room and the 4 year old victim wasn't traumatized because _she couldn't see_ .
@@jimerodriguez8332 that is so fucked up
@@jimerodriguez8332 Do you live at Disney land? Only one murder was committed in a year?
Where do you live? I'd like to move there.
I loved the ending because although it gave me a sense of relief that he got arrested, he got arrested for murder. He still didn’t get punished for rape. And that’s just reality. As soon as he commits another crime he immediately gets arrested. But he raped a woman and years go by without the slightest punishment. And she knew that. That’s why she planned everything out in advance. Because she knew the only way to get Nina justice was to get him caught for a different crime. Sad.
I'm sure he will be charged for rape since the video tape is also sent to the police. But if not, I believe that his career and future is done since even tho these people are all fake they still have to comply to work ethic show that they have moral
You can not be charged for SA after 5 years (in most states). The video, though, will prove he was familiar with her and her group of friends. Also he burned all the evidence he could've used as proof it was "self defense" so hes absolutely going to be in jail the rest of his life
This movie doesn't reflect reality whatsoever.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 for rape? beause that's not true
@@mochibun3890
How is it not true?? If a man even looks at woman wrong nowadays he's punished for it, you're telling me that rapists don't get punished??
Because that's untrue.
There’s this one line that I feel like people really overlook in the scene between the dean and Cassie, where she talks about her daughter being dumb and saying, “who needs brains, they never did a girl any good” and ITS AN EASTER EGG FOR GREAT GATSBY, because she was DAISY Buchanan, THATS MIND BLOWING. It parallels with daisy’s line talking about her daughter, saying “I hope she‘ll be a beautiful little fool”. Emerald is such an amazing director/screen writer, i cant wait for her future projects
WAIT I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF PARALLEL BECAUSE I SWEAR AT SOME POINT THEY CALLED HER DAISY TOO
@@joelyb7501 yes it was literally the same scene meeting the dean also the lawyer that got forgiveness played her father in An Education it was jarring seeing them together again
Not only was the line a callback In that scene, but there was a direct callback as well. When meeting with the dean, Cassie uses an alias to protect her identity. The alias she decides to use is none other than Daisy. Emerald really is such a witty and clever director
This movie gave me the worst punch in the gut I've felt in years. But the more I thought about the ending, the more I realized, that was the point. We want to get a Kill Bill, I Spit On Your Grave revenge ending we want to see and have seen already, but that isn't reality. Cassie mindfucks with people, but they could still just go back to old habits.(There was a deleted scene where Cass has a bruise on her hand, implying not every night went well) Plus we needed to really feel how Cassie felt over Nina's injustice, so when we see her own, he step in her shoes in the harshest way. Plus Cassie forgave the defense lawyer bc he was actually remorseful, he admitted wrongdoing, specifically too, he had already quit his job by that point . While on the opposite, Ryan just wanted immediate forgiveness and to be thought of as a good person. The difference is noticable.
Yeah, I agree. Rape revenge films in general feel hollow to me. I just know that can never happen. And I hate how those storylines tend to depict rape as an empowering thing (looking at you GOT). This film got it right for me.
Definitely. I posted a comment about this already, but I've really been enjoying reading people's thoughts on it. As someone who has had a lot of trauma, and fantasized about revenge to the point where it began ruining my life even more - this movie got it right.
@cloudae I know it wasn't Fennell's original ending, the other was too bleak for the financiers.
I choose to look at it this way. It took Cassie getting murdered for the police to do anything. That's quite true to life, especially after what happened to Sarah Everard. The police officer accused of killing her was reported shortly before for indecent exposure, but nothing was done until he was arrested for murder.
For me the satisfaction doesn't lie in the police showing up. It's in the faces of the men once they realise what's happening. It's a hollow catharsis, which I think it appropriate for this film.
@@flawedsanity I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope you're in a slightly better place now.
@@gleewhoseline198 Thank you. I'm sadly not, but... I hope one day I get there.
Trin's rant after the "can you imagine what every woman's worst nightmare is?" line? Everything. Literally everything. Top tier, chef's kiss, Oscar-fucking-worthy.
Sorry I accidentally disliked
Cringiest line I've ever heard.
@Phoenix Girl its not all men, we are individuals are you saying just because they are men they should just say they did something wrong wtf??
@@fosb8209 I actually disliked.
@Phoenix Girl
First of all, you dont have to, just carry a gun,
people in general should people would be more afraid to commit crimes if people legally had access to guns.
Also seriously fuck off, 99% really??
You're literally saying every woman gets raped by a man, That's just a lie
Rape is wrong & anybody who does it is disgusting, male or female this is exactly why a lot of dudes dont like it because about this because people are making sexual Assault & violence a gender thing, therefore blaming a entire gender for it why should something that people mostly agree on be so damn divisive & Complicated when it shouldn't be,
I feel like people watching this movie think men as a gender dont care about women or secretly like rape or watch people do it, it's just a sexist mindset & why you think that is something that just affects women is why this conversation is hopeless to begin with.
This movie was a masterpiece and touched on such an important subject. Imagine trying to cover up a rape to save the guy’s future? What about the victim? What about her future? This movie made me all kinds of emotional 😭
What about justice?
@@lancewalker2595 yes. At least some form of justices was achieved at the end, but I can’t help but think of all the victims who never got their justice
@@EstherFromTheEther this makes me wanna punch every sad little prat who's ever uttered those words "what about the man's future??" and the fact that my brother is one of those people just makes me wanna disown him and punch his fkin face
@@Inurwalls02 ew find a new brother
Yeah like I’m, maybe the guy should have thought about his own future before ruining someone else’s…? Why is the onus of responsibility always on the victim?
"he's just kissing her without her kissing him back... like that's so embarrassing for you" lmaoo 4:20
and then the way he says "wow" like he just did something
SPOILERS
the song playing as Cassie's body burns is from "The King and I" where one of the king's wives asks the main character to forgive the king for upholding his traditions (hint hint: slavery and monarchy) because the king is a good guy. really interesting tie-in
Damn. Is there any aspect of this that Fennell DIDN’T give some kind of clever double meaning to?
YES!! I’m so glad someone else recognized the song because theatre knowledge.
Everything about this movie is amazing
That’s interesting
I’ve loved Bo Burnam for such a long time and the fact that he’s in this movie makes me so happy
He should be in romance / rom-com films
Hes suchhh a good love interest but him in this was 😐
I loved that he was in this movie but hated his character. Such good casting to prove the “nice guy” theme.
I keep having to remind myself that he's playing a character because WHEW. I got so fucking mad.
after his comedy specials and eighth grade i really look forward to know what he’s going to be in next
You guys should check out the director's (Emerald Fennell) interview with Variety, it's really interesting because she talks in depth about her choice to have Cassandra die at the end and why she cast a bunch of recognizable "good guys" in Hollywood to play the part of the rapists and sexual assaulters in order to play with our perceptions of rape culture
The casting was really really good.
The casting was so good but also so sad to see because I dont wanna be triggered the next time I see them..
@@Gelime_ I mean the fact that they chose to be in this movie speaks volumes about their characters. So I just try to remember that
The way this movie made me fall in love with Bo Burnham and then proceeded to crush my soul
SAME. HOW RUDE.
Me and my bf watched this, he was absolutely gutted when Ryan turned out to be bad 😂 his the biggest Bo fan lol
YEAH like it's weird seeing all of those beloved actors being bad people, but for me bo's character hit the absolute hardest i love that guy skdjfhlksdj
for real, i’ve watched his comedy specials and i always loved him as a creator. but he played such a good love interest, i actually started crushing on him during the movie. and then OOP
whenever anyone says “you HAVE to forgive me” you know they’re not sorry for anything, or not sorry enough. the simple fact that they think they’re entitled to your forgiveness shows that they do not have a full comprehension of how badly they hurt you/someone else or what they did wrong. no one HAS to forgive anyone, ever.
Interesting fact: Cassie's death took 2 and a half minutes, or 2 minutes and 30 seconds, because that's how long it takes to smother someone.
I think it takes longer than that
when i was watching this movie, i ended up hardcore cursing in front of my parents for the first time because i hated so many of the men in it
Ya. That's what they were written for.
@@lancewalker2595 But the saddest part is that there are men like this in real life, they're not just the director's imagined characters. They do exist and it's terrifying.
@@juliette3436 Percentage?
@@lancewalker2595 Bro, there are literally thousands of people in this world that r*pe children...do you honestly think that there are men out there like what is portrayed in this movie is so unbelievable? Because if so, you're either in denial, hiding something, or straight up delusional.
@@kristenjackson4503 I got molested at the age of 7 by my grandpa, so did my brother, I thank a God I don't even believe in that he didn't prefer girls because I've got two sisters.
Sorry, am I derailing your narrative or something? I would absolutely hate to disabuse you of the notion that boys aren't as vulnerable as you are. I'm allowed to be angry, because you just implied that I need to be taught that MY OWN abuse was wrong; trust me, I'M WELL AWARE. And frankly, and sorry for saying so im sure your ignorance is only inadvertently offensive, but fuck you for making that implication.
Also I loved how fast Ryan’s descent happened. Moments earlier he was claiming to be a good guy and he was sorry and begged for forgiveness. Once Cassie refused he immediately insulted her and cursed at her.
And then went on to claim “THEY BROKE UP” bc she’s out of control essentially. Oh and he lied about where she went :) and then went to her murderer’s wedding :)
Right? He's still friends with Al despite being present at a r@pe, despite KNOWING he probably murdered Cassie, he goes to the wedding. He's a terrible person.
The saddest thing about this was how accurate the men were in the movie .. like actually spot on that’s literally how they act
if you wanna weed out if a guy you’re talking to is secretly misogynistic MAKE THEM WATCH THIS MOVIE! The reactions will be very telling😭but I absolutely love this movie, I cried watching it
Men know this and will pretend like they give a shit. They’ll cry and say some shit so you think they’re a Good Guy. I know you’re joking but don’t let a man’s reaction to any piece of media lull you into ignoring red flags or bad behavior/vibes plz
I’ve heard from several women whose bfs cried at this movie or said something “feminist”-y in the moment and then went on to sexually assault them a short amount of time later ://///
@@TweetedTUMBLe Well damn 😳😳... RIP
I saw someone else in another video reaction to this movie call "Promising Young Woman" a Rorschach Test of misogyny or something like that, basically saying that you can tell some things about someone, especially a guy, from how they react to this movie and what they took away from it.
Bo Burnam was PERFECT casting for this role specifically because we all love him. We love him as a comedian and as a person and when we see him, we want to root for him. The entire movie we are just hoping that he’ll be a good person, even with the seeds of doubt we have against him. And its just SO disappointing when he turns out to be like all the rest in Cassie’s eyes. I know myself, even at the end, I was YELLING at the tv for him to just DO THE RIGHT THING. And he doesnt. Even at the end, he shows up to the wedding. He was never a good person
It’s not in her eyes. It’s in reality.
ive watched this movie three times, i honestly love the balance of how bubblegum pink pop it is, with how dark and serious it is. super smart movie, very happy and proud of emerald fennel, hope she wins!! carey mulligan crushed it
GURL!!! THIS MOVIE BROKE ME
ZZZAAAAVVIIIIIIDDDDDD~~~~
Ohh 😯 ZZavid watching Trin yes!!!
@@allier1867 hey boo
It honestly disgusts me how people will always try to find a way to blame and discredit victims while in the same breath making excuses for the rapists. I really loved hearing all your opinions in this video and am so happy you're using your platform to talk about such important issues ❤
SHMIDT! A WHITE MAN! lol thanks for covering the most important news again trin xoxo
Literally I was so shocked when I saw Schmidt I was like noooooo😟
@@tochiiii SAME
@@tochiiii same lol
@@tochiiii yeah they tried to cast all actors known for playing nice and loveable guys
He was too Schmidt for this it was so hard to not think just Schmidt
thanks trin for bringing up the fact that many guys say "oh that an exageration" ITS LITERALLY NOT OMG
if this movie doesn’t win an oscar i’m gonna sue
Yashasvi S the oscars haven’t even happened yet
@@susyycarlyle yeah sorry its nominated for the 2021 Oscar's
its not oscar worthy i think.. but it was nice movie
@@beyzas.6461 i think i’m a little blinded by how much i enjoyed it but i still think it has a shot at one
@@simonfisher4067 i understand. i wonder if it going to win anything.. i wouldnt be mad if the movie wins tho. Just not expecting
“i was a kid” i’m gonna punt this man to the moon
the toxic cover in this movie is such a damn bop and i still have it on my playlist of favorites
“it’s not going to ruin a highschool boys life because *when has it ever* “ so true. i don’t think age matters. literally, high school boys shouldn’t have that in their minds that they can get away with it and ruin women’s lives.
the scene where she was asphyxiated gave me a panic attack in the theatre. i cried for a good long while.
I’m so sorry 😢
yikes
Horrifying
The way Trin said all of this was so well articulated. A lot of my family is like the people asking "well what was she wearing" and sometimes I get so angry that I can't explain it to them like this. But, if I could I would basically say this.
edit: Oh my gosh... I wasn't expecting so many likes. Thank you guys so much!
Victim blaming at its finest
Can we just appreciate how amazing Trin looks!
Yesss
Dis shit ain't new
‘that weird Pennywise balloon’ gurl my thoughts exactly when watching that scene lmao
I was expecting her to put a scene of it when she said that
People will often say "Innocent until proven guilty" after an accusation comes out but won't give the woman the same thing. Sure, he is innocent until proven guilty. But she is innocent of false accusations until proven guilty. That's what trials are for.
Right. And that’s only in terms of the law, not everyone has to personally live by that “the justice system is always right” mindset. Corrupt, incompetent, and just plain lazy justice systems are prevalent, just because a guy isn’t convicted and just because a woman is labeled a “liar” doesn’t mean it’s always honest to the truth.
I think the idea of this argument is intended to be that the accuser should be doubted by default because they’re the ones making the claim, so the burden of proof is apparently supposed to be on them, and the logic being that it’s less bad for someone who turns out to be guilty to be free than someone who turns out to be innocent to be punished
But that’s all in theory, in practice, it just serves to ignore just how pervasive sexual assault can be, and how outdated societal standards perpetuate that kind of culture, and frankly, most people wouldn’t just lie about something as serious as that, so always assuming that the accuser is lying kinda puts loads and loads of victims in a really difficult situation that just doesn’t happen with other crimes
Originally Cass wasnt supposed to be discovered. I'm glad that they changed the ending but somehow keeping the same bitter taste at the end. At the end of the day, it took 2 women ended up dying in order to jail one man
Trin is the goddess we don’t deserve but needed! And your ‘monologue’ (of sorts) about “if this was your sister” actual made me cry
the director/screenwriter emerald fennel, 1ST TIME WRITING AND DIRECTING! Said that the second she put a knife in cassies hand was the second she knew she had to die because all those men and Cassie being so small there’s not one way she would’ve survived, and the second Cassie chose violence was the second she received it. I loved the film and cried so hard at the ending. ❤️
"The second she chose violence was the second she received it." I don't remember her saying that and she's been receiving violence all movie.
Well is she brought a gun things would’ve turned out better for him
??????????? lmfao what, how is this supposed to be empowering at all for victims
@@boop4643 I don't think being empowering for victims was the point in this decision. Cassie was a normal woman pursuing revenge, she was not an assassin, and she didn't have experience in a physical confrontation. For me, this decision depicts reality and shows how brutal it is.
@@margarida6857 i understand that. my reply was to this part of the comment, "the second Cassie chose violence was the second she received it." because the violence started with the rape. to imply that she STARTED the violence with her revenge plot is what annoyed me.
I love how this was dressed up as a "she's a girl with a hard exterior but a soft center, she's just waiting for the right man to bring it out of her" story, and then it pulled it out from under your feet.
I remember being weirdly upset by it, because I like Bo Burnham and their relationship, and it forced you to think about how he is just as toxic as everyone else. God it's such a weirdly complex film, it's just great.
Yes all men are the same great message.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 were you asleep during the movie or did you just not watch it…?
@@jc8198
No it was all garbage and just propaganda.
@@jc8198 that does seem to be the message of the film right? The only decent guy (Bo Burnham) in the film turns out to be a creep too. It seems like the message of the film is "All men are creeps. Never trust them."
Am I missing something here?
@@anonymous_4276 yea u are… the message isn’t labeling all men as bad. If that was the case, then all the women would be likable victims. But they’re not. In fact most women in the movie turned out to be just as much a terrible person as the men.
The movie is supposed to show just how differently society treats rape victims and sexual offenders. Victims are expected to just “move on”, while the offenders ACTUALLY get to move on since they’re “promising young [men]”. So that’s the point of the title. To show the irony of such a statement; that quote came from a judge referring to a college boy who faced no consequences after raping someone. A “promising young man”. The victim, on the other hand, is seen as an inconvenience, dramatic, psychotic….
The whole movie shows how complicit so many people are in rape cases, despite looking like “nice people”. If they’re really nice people, why didn’t they do something?
Something that stood out to me is the fact that their 'friends' covered for each other. The fact that the video was hidden for so long speaks volumes about the people.
When a friend commits rape, murder or any crime, when people get hurt because of them, you should not be willing to aid them. They ruined lives, they killed someone, or whatever the case, they should face the consequences
I had the same initial reaction to... that scene. I read an interview with the director. She said she wanted it to be as realistic as possible, given the circumstances. Cassie wasn't gonna give up, and she wasn't in her right mind. She was going to do whatever it took, even if she didn't survive.
I also hate when someone says 'it's okay' while assaulting. I will say if it's okay. Don't give fake words of comfort in an attempt to justify what you're doing.
And then those same words of comfort are given back and just end up being a trigger..
@@Gelime_ yes! It's horrible. Words that are supposed to be comforting get used in the worst way
I remember being so upset after watching this movie. I was so excited to see this movie because I thought it would be like Ready or not one woman standing vibe, and then she died and I geniunely had a panic attack due to it while watching the credits in the cinema.
For some reason in my head, I thought it would end with like, she had swapped the body so that she had faked her death, and it turned out that her best friend had also faked her death and they would get in a car and drive off into the sunset or something. I went through so many mental gynamstics because the ending just made me so upset.
Thankyou for watching this movie and sharing it, it means alot to me that media like this is shared and that people get even a glimpse of understanding what its like to be a victim and feel so hopeless
They LITERALLY marketed this movie in a way were it seemed like she would win!! Your not crazy at all for thinking that. If the director really cared about sexual assault survivors they would have marketed truthfully. I honestly think they just wanted the shock value. Hated the movie!
@@nyjaharris190 Why do you hate the movie instead of hating the PR team, the advertisments if that’s your reason.....
I haven’t actually seen the full movie, other than Trin’s video, so I might be wrong on this. But I’m glad the marketing tried to convince you that she would win, because what’s the point of knowing that she was going to die going into watching the movie? Aren’t movies supposed to have a level of shock factor? The ending is supposed to make you upset, right? I understand if the ending was triggering to a lot of people, but in general I don’t know if anyone should have just expected that the movie would end up going perfectly for Cassandra.
@@nyjaharris190 the director is a woman in hollywood and you really think she's not a sexual assault survivor? Also, you hate a woman discussing sexual assault and making a movie shining a light on it because... the PR team advertised it differently than you would have wanted? You do hear yourself right?
@@EmmaThw haha don’t assume I haven’t looked into the director. I see you are just trying to start a argument so Have a good day🤙🏽
I loved the entire movie, I was so upset she died but honestly its a dark look at what really happens. in a bittersweet way she got the last laugh, the last word in, and she ended up with nina in the end, but it sucked because for a second, i thought they were just going to end it on that horrible note (and they WERE going to, test audiences hated it). It was sad, but it was great, and it was a good end, and it sucked for cassie but i know that everyone is going to get their dues.
I don't think it necessarily sucked for cassie because she didn't want to be there anymore, like she was just basically surviving, not living...she won but she knew the cost of that
29:00 for like Cassie’s death it was meant to integrate that hopelessness, but it was also meant to remind the audience that she is just human, like all of us other girls, and that at the end of the day she wasn’t strong enough. She wasn’t some superhero, just a strong, strong woman with an agenda.
Btw I went to see this movie with my aunt and an acquaintance and at the end of the movie when we were walking out they both said that she was crazy, and I find that fucking hilarious. Like if this had been about a big strong guy avenging his friend everyone, I mean EVERYONE, would’ve commended him. He would’ve been the unsung hero and all that bull, but the moment you switch up the gender, she’s crazy. And the exact same thing was said about peppermint too, at least where I am, the south😔. It’s fucked really
100% agree the ending was justified while watching i predicted it might happen because that's similar to reality
the fact that we met the characters and the story from cassandra’s pov made it so hard for me at the end of the movie, i felt so bad and sad cause i wasn’t waiting for it but i guess that’s more realistic... she went there alone with a bunch of men, she knew what could happen and it makes sense
I loved your rant @10:25 ! This is SO TRUE. It’s honestly so sad that ppl feel the need to do that in order to get other ppl to just CARE when that happens to someone :( there’s a severe lack of compassion in this world.
thanks for the timestamp! i kept going through the video to find that part :)
i didn't trust ryan for a second. He said a lot of odd things when they would talk which made me feel uncomfortable and he was still doing that "but I'm a nice guy" act. I distinctly remember in the film where they're in bed and he called her a bitch and I was like uhhh i don't think he's joking here wtf was that!! i love this movie, it definitely was a ride & carey mulligan DID THAT
YES. OMG that part stood out to me too. I forget what they were talking about, but he said "you stupid bitch" in a slurred/under his breath type of way. I was like where tf did that come from?
Yeah like
1) not taking the hint after she gave him a fake number, ie rejecting him
2) the “oh we just so happen to be at my apartment” thing on the first date
3) never really asks her why she dropped out of medschool, cause he knew why. (He only asked her why she didn’t go back to just to finish it)
4) the whole “I liked you back then, and still like you now” thing weirded me out
5) the still being friends with all the rapist guys, and trying to get Cassie to be friends with them too “they’re not that bad, really” *talks about their achievements*, even though he knew about Nina
6) him being at the hookup bar that Cassie frequents for her ‘victims’
And all that before we even see them get together properly
yeah same!! he had the same weird vibes as all the other guys and i was getting ready to be disappointed that they were going to excuse them to have a love story in the movie. the breakup scene made me so happy bc they actually acknowledged the issues.
@@samkelly4132 YES exactly and like i love the way it's written because it's noticeable enough that like, if you don't see it as a problem in the moment, then at the very least, it'll hit you in hindsight, but it's subtle enough that you could see this guy getting away with having that "nice guy" reputation in his life. like i definitely thought those things were weird, but i sort of put away my suspicions while second guessing myself, and i think that extension of the benefit of the doubt really parallels how a lot of people handle guys like ryan
Fr he rly sounded like he meant it, it was so shocking.
The person who thought about putting a Paris Hilton song in the movie is a genius
i just read this somewhere but the title "Promising Young Woman" is actually a mockery of how an athlete and Stanford student, Brock Turner, was often referred to by the media as a promising young man despite the sexual allegations against him.
When George Floyd was killed, none of us had to say "imagine if he was your son/father/brother/husband!" We all understood how horrible it was to the extent we came together and pushed even harder for BLM to be recognized and taken more seriously. I genuinely with we had a mentality more like that when it comes to rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment victims. I was sexually assulted a few years back when I was 15 (I'm 17 now. He was 17 when it happened) and I was repeatedly victim blamed by the people around me and my own mum was gaslighting me. No consequences were given to my ex who sexually assulted me. I remember feeling so alone and I blamed myself for what happened for years. Rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment is REAL and SERIOUS
Apparently not all of us, unfortunately.
Same...you're not alone and I hope you've been able to work through the self blame...it's not easy to stop that feeling.
@@Gelime_ It is, but it feels incredible to look bad and see how far you've gotten and how strong you have/had to be to get through that. I hope you're doing better now and it honestly feels really good to know I'm not alone, ya know?
It’ll never be that way for men because men aren’t seen as someone else’s property. The only way you’d get a guy to care about something is to say “imagine if she was your daughter/sister/mother” etc is because men feel their entitled to women’s lives and how their perceived, ostensibly because it used to reflect back on them and the “honor” of the family
@@whatspoppin11326 this right here is ur reason . Generalizing won’t get u anywhere, just more people walking away.
Hey, I’d just like to note that I apologise to inanimate objects when I bump into them. Now you know why I have no friends.
I DO THAT ALL THE TIME. or I say thank you to the door stop....
I apologize to inanimate objects I don’t pick too
Wait bc I do that too 🧍🏾♀️
Sometimes I worry about hurting an inanimate object’s feelings. You’re not alone :(
Not quite the same... but when I was really young I used to feel bad about throwing my things away (eg. scrap paper, candy wrappers, old pencils) in public trash bins. I felt that I had to throw them in the trash bin at home so they could be with the other trash from home, that way they wouldn't feel "lonely." *I was weird as hell*
Damn, Trin was spitting straight facts the entire video 👏
I definitely felt that hopelessness at the death - when it cut to the next morning I was praying her toes would wiggle or something and she’d be ok and that maybe the guy just did it wrong or something and when it was clear that she wasn’t getting up I was like “so after all that those guys win, great”
When I hear stuff like "you'll ruin his life." All I feel is rage, because he ruined my life. Why is his life so important? Why do I get ptsd attack while he could be out doing what he did to me to someone else?
Everything point you made is spot on and its ridiculous that we still have to fight so hard to be heard.
One of the things that I deeply love about this movie is that aside from the audio [where you only really hear commentary] they don’t show the act of rape, too many movies and shows show it, for what reason? It’s implied, to me it’s always been too triggering, no one wants to see that.
I don’t even think that they mentioned the word, but we all know exactly what they’re talking about.
There’s no gore but there are a lot of scenes that make you uncomfortable, and they’re more impactful, they stay in your mind and make you feel things, and that’s where the line between art and reality gets blurred cause this happens so much in reality and you’re angry cause there is no justice for it. The ending makes that feeling even more bittersweet cause 2 people lost their lives THEN their rapist/killer got arrested.
Well said, I agree. There are way too many shows/films that have r*pe scenes just for shock value, and it's disgusting. Game of Thrones is exceptionally infamous for it. (I also got into a "debate" with someone who didn't think Danaerys was r*ped...Tell me you're a r*pist without telling me).
The Trin that was singing along to Boys and the Trin at the end of the video were two different people.
Also I want to add that I loved how they gave the detective or lawyer or whoever that guy was a redemption by making him the one she trusted to make sure that they were arrested and justice was achieved at the end
I may be thinking too much into it but I think throughout the film they depicted Cassie has the virgin Mary from the Christianity religion like some of the shots of her would depict a halo around her head (like at 14:22 in this video) or when she had visited Jordan and he was crying in her lap kinda similar to the mary statue depiction. Overall just very pretty shots throughout the movie
Actually, according to some interviews, that symbolism was intentional
And when she's at the bar at the very beginning with her arms out on the seats
Yes,, also Greek mythology Ig, About Cassandra, the oracle who would always tell the truth and predict the future yet no one believed her.
Read in a comment somewhere and found it v interesting
After Cassie was killed her body is in the pose of Jesus on the crucifix, emerald really knew how to use religious reference and even mythological references to tell the entire story in the first moments of the film
God I love this movie. It's simultaneously a heartbreaking and satisfying ending, and I really think it's just phenomenal. Plus, the soundtrack gives me CHILLS.
the casting was very thought out, they chose men who were already very liked by audiences to be these “nice guys” bc it gets the point across that it can be the guys that everyone likes to do things like this.
The part of the guy getting taken in for murder just made me angry when first watching it. Even Cass knew that the only way she would get her justice, was if the crime was "bigger" in the eyes of the law. They don't care about rape in that way. The fact that he wouldn't have gone behind bars otherwise made me so overwhelmingly angry.
And that he was the ONLY ONE arrested!!!! When the other guys were there and complicit. I get it but also ugh
I’ve been wanting to watch this movie but never got around to it and then Trin posts a video on it 🧍🏾♀️-
As sad and frustrating the ending might be, I think it was truly the only option. It's even somewhat foreshaddowed when Nina's mom and Cassie talk, that seeking revenge wasn't good for her. And if that hadn't happened, Al would probably get off scotch free, so at least he got arrested for sure after all (and if it all failed, he will always be the dude who got arrested at his wedding and charged with murder, so tht's career ending for sure)
trin’s outfits 😩💗✨🛐
I love the casting of the men, particularly, in this. Nice guys, funny guys, known comedians.
SA-ers are monsters but also normal every day people. They live next door and sit in your study group and sing in bodegas
the role of law enforcement in this movie is quite interesting, like you said. they are shown to be incompetentant when prosecuting nina's sexual assault and investigating cassie's murder. however, at the end, they're shown to be an effective tool, as long as you have enough evidence. obviously rapists must be held accountable, but it's hard to show that in media without effectively endorsing the criminal justice system. i think this movie tried to walk that difficult line
I felt the exact same way when watching the ending, just so sick with this massive pitt in my stomach that didn’t go away for hours after I finished it. I loved the movie but that scene absolutely fucked me up
One thing I saw that the director said was she used actors from early 2000s shows or who normally play charming likeable characters like Adam Brody, Max Greenfield, Chris Lowell, and Bo Burnham and cast them as these horrible guys which I thought was super interesting and made the plot twist with Bo’s character more unexpected. Also the films use of bright pastel colours despite the dark themes is fantastic and makes the ending that much more impactful in my opinion
Appreciation comment for Trin’s Jennifer Coolidge impression 🤚🏻😩
Everyone out there remember: Consent is SEXY!! ✨🥳🎉😍
@@laurabailey5 exactly
Lingerie is sexy consent is a basic human right - the part from the spoken word poetry called the rape joke ( im sorry i had to)
@@plainelene3390 i love that poem
Consent is a basis human right. I hate that bullshit. Consent isn't sexy, it's fucking necessary.
Consent is the bare minimum.
imagine being accused of murder and your response is “i was just a kid!” like... BAH WHAT????
right?! for literally any other crime, that's considered a confession, I don't understand how in the case of rape/sexual assault, it's an excuse?
I just want to point out that cassie doesnt kill the men that she meets in bars and that is why in one of the first scenes we see red substances on her clothes and a lot of people would think that its blood when its just ketchup falling from her hot dog lol and a lot of people would say she is crazy for what she does but if it was a man they would say that they are unanderstood genius.
This! Ted Bundy was literally given a parade! Men are worshiped by all of society no matter how evil they are!!
well really we dont know what she does to them, do we? we see her writting in a notebook full of blue, black and red notches. I've been wondering for months what their meaning is
Trin constantly serving us with the beautiful content that we don’t deserve 🥰
that charli xcx song was very spot on for the intro
I can’t believe you would watch this online. I could never. It was so difficult to watch. I had a complete breakdown. I was in shock. But yes. It’s so so So good.
The ending was perfect for what this movie wanted to say. Carey is the best actress.
But damn girl. Can’t believe you made a reaction video for this. It’s so brutal.
You made me cry like three times during this commentary. Such powerful words, coming from a young woman who's so eloquent, and the fact that all of us girls/women can truly RELATE to the injustices that not only happen in this movie, but that happen to all of us on such a regular basis, just made me choked up. Sometimes I get filled with so much sadness and anger that we just have to submit to the fact that, yeah this is the world we live in, and we'll be long gone before future generations can see true change and can find some peace of mind in a hopefully non-misogynistic society someday, but there's so many people SO dense, such as those who always prioritize the oppressors commodities instead of siding with the victims that it seems too impossible. It's just gross. I often try not to think too much about it, because if I do I'm just in a constant state of rage; there's little that I can do by myself to change this situation in the near future, but GOD does it make me furious when I see injustices like the ones in this film and of greater or smaller scale... Honestly we all know it's not all men (quit it with feeling insulted if you're a decent human being, do us all a favor save both of us some time!!) but enough of you to have younger and maybe even older generations sick and tired of your bullshit to simply not shut up about it ever again. Fuck that and fuck your sexism.
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honestly i feel like this was the only way this movie could've ended. cassie had been grieving for seven years, no one could even acknowledge ninas existence aside from her. she was never going to get the closure she wanted because no one wanted to acknowledge that nina was a victim. it kind of makes me happy that they're together again. the necklaces made me cry so much....
the way we don't see cassies face once she's died also shows how victims are stripped of their identity. i know some people didn't like the ending but i like that it wasn't a "true" rape revenge film. i'm so glad we didn't ever see what happened to nina, because showing something so gruesome and violent will never make sense to me, even if it's just simulated. i like that cassie chose to mentally attack all of those people instead of killing them. putting them through those things so they have to re-live it over and over in their mind. it makes me sad that she knew she probably wouldn't leave the bachelor party alive, but also realistic. maybe she knew the only way the police would even blink twice was if there was a murder involved. without cassies murder, nina would never receive any justice.
Bestie I had chemistry homework to do....guess not anymore
literally same i have 3 chem assignments💀
yeah, that death scene hit me really hard. i was sobbing for the first time in a long time.
Most of the times I skip monologues in movies due to the fact that I am just excited to get haha funny reactions... I couldn't bring myself to skip a single word you spoke. This movie shattered me into tiny little pieces but I truly believe that this movie deserves more credit worldwide. I have even met men that barge into my conversations with women about date rape trying to excuse men... Once I asked a man, "Have you ever raped anyone," and he said, "It's not that simple." This entire world is so fucked. I am so happy to have ever subscribed to you. To have someone with a platform display empathy and human kindness is a blessing and I hope people watch you and learn. All we can try to do on this planet is love each other and be kind. Thank you Trin.
The fact he couldn't even just answer the question with "no", the fact there was even a qualifier...that's fucking horrifying. And yes, I just. The tone for this was so much less funny than it usually is in Trin's video and yet it's so appropriate
The fact that her name is Cassandra (cursed to tell the truth that no one believes) and all the little details of this movie (her dressing in 90s fashion, her house decked in 80s furniture, literally stuck in time when everyone else moved on) and how each and every one of the bad guys are commedy actors, people you normally like, people you would never see as a bad person, is quite clever.
Also, the subtle ways the "good" men in the story invalidate Cassie. The Lawyer invades her personal space (watch the scene again, but only watch Cassie), he touches her and puts all the burden of HIS pain on HER to resolve. Her dad, he's in front of the police, with his wife literally saying "our daughter is in danger, this is not normal", but he dismisses her, dismisses her concern because Cassie is damaged and crazy, so of course his view is more important than his wife's. The police go to interrogate the ex boyfriend and they open with the Dad's version of events, not the Mom's. It's all really subtle and in the whole emotional rollercoaster of the movie you don't see it at first, but it's not just bad guys who are doing this, it's also the good ones. This movie deserves an Oscar, seriously.
THE BRITNEY SPEARS TOXIC VERSION THEY MADE I SCREAMED I WAS IN LOVEEEEEE