Extra things not mentioned in the video: - The Pegasus has a much better front head light and a brighter, more well-positioned rear brake light, so if night riding is something you do often then the Pegasus might be more appealing for you. (However, I would suggest a handlebar-mounted light as well for either of these scooters while riding at night.) - The Mantis 8 comes with a trigger throttle and the Pegasus comes with a thumb throttle. If you are extremely partial to one or the other then this might help you make a decision on which scooter to get. See: ruclips.net/video/JogFGquhAg8/видео.html
i know this sounds moronic but im a boomer and i would love to mount a seat on the pegasus which would also make it comply with pretty strict regulations in my country. you think this is possible to do?
September 11th i bought 2 Pegasus and a eagle one. Took 6 days to reach my door in las vegas. Love them ! The Pegasus is simple and comfortable. 33 is plenty. The large led screen is cool. Wish that screen came on eagle one. I did a bunch or research before purchasing. This is the video i wanted to see before making a decision but i went for it.
I have both scooters. I hate the folding mechanism on the Mantis 8, I like the looser steering on the Mantis, I have had two flat tires on the mantis already and it cost me $45 to have a guy fix the flat. I like the speed, and the fact it fits in my small trunk. The Varla Pegasus has an easier locking mechanism, good speed, I love that my tires won't go flat, I need to lower my back seat to get the Pegasus in to KY small trunk. All in all they all have pros and cons, but at the end of the day the solid tires I'd what I love.
Other things to consider, Warranty -Varla 24 mos, Mantis 18 mos and Mantis is out of stock with an alleged ship date of 9/20 (yesterday). Some your earlier video's on the Mantis were worrisome especially the loose frame. Really happy with my Pegasus. It is heavy but it is well built and with a little P tuning the take off is incredible. Only time will tell how they will fair long term.
Yeah I did have issues with my first 10 inch Mantis, but I am much more confident in this Mantis 8. Much more solid feel and better build quality than the earlier versions of the Mantis. Glad to hear you are liking the Pegasus
@@user-jg4ci4mf8w not bad but it definitely uses low quality cells and has pretty massive voltage sag. Unfortunately you're not going to go past 22mph once you fall below 50v, which happens within the first two miles of riding.
Nah my opinion the pagasus wins hands down! I mean you forgot the light,the large screen indicator,and style ! The mantis looks bland and doesn't stand out like the pegasus.but still good review just left out alot ,almost biast in a way.
True I didn't cover the lights. I tend to avoid riding at night so I didn't think to compare the lights. I personally prefer the sleeker look of the Mantis 8 and I know other people do too. It's personal preference and it's easy enough to just look at the scooters and see which one you like more. What reason would I have to be biased? Giving an opinion will always seem biased if you don't agree with it Edit: also wanted to say that screen size really isn't a huge selling point for me. All it really does it tell me my speed and I rarely look at it while riding anyway. Hence why I didn't factor it into the comparison. Thanks for your comment ☺️
Agreed, I felt it was bias but to be fair I think he genuinely does like the Mantis better, but Pegasus does have better warranty and im a solid tire kinda guy.. Dude, fixing a flat on any scooter is a pain, eats time and it sucks... plain and simple. If Eagle 1 had solid tires i would have spent the extra 300... but I also feel I wouldn't use the top speed much around here.. or id kill myself @40 mph.. lol
The Eagle One is no comparison. It's a beast and way faster. I got mine about 6 months ago. Currently 500+miles with no maintenance needed and I still LOVE riding it.
another awesome video!!! A couple of things that after riding both scooters perhaps deserve an honourable mention #1 The lighting that comes stock on the Pegasus is nice to have...not awesome...but still useful if you're coming home in the dark :) #2 The display on the Pegasus is much better than the Mantis #3 The brake light on the Pegasus is quite good too I must say the weight for carrying up and down stairs is quite a bit ....it's not Uscooter :) Super informative video...love the side by side video and thanks for sharing your experience with range too :) Cheers from Vancouver Island :)
I must say very good content. I haven't had a chance to ride either one yet, but soon I should be able to test ride mantis 8 and 10. Thanks for the great comparison. :)
I took a look at both in late '23 and found the Mantis can now be had about $150 cheaper than the Pegasus. The Pegasus also weighs quite a bit more, 66 lb opposed to 53 lbs. One other thing of minor annoyance, you can see the display reads high on the Pegasus (though it is easier to see) showing 33 mph reading as 35, etc. Not as far off (lies) as some units, but the Mantis gets it dead-on. I don't think the Mantis has a seat option though?
I'm considering getting thr Pegasus. I love that bigger ebike screen and no flats sound great to me. I'm more out I'm the country, so I need more reliability. I feel like I'd get flats out here more often than people who live in the city.
how do you compare it to Apollo City? its the $1050 without promo code n im wondering if its the same class n how it compares reason why im asking i only found 1 video for Apollo City most is Apollo explore
i was on amazon recently and i found a Kaabo mantis for only a little over $800, and it had a top speed of 16 mph???? I don't believe that. only one person had reviewed it giving it a 5 star rating.
Varla eagle one does 38-40mph,if your lighter maybe even a smidge over... Nanrobot D4 3.0 will also do 38-40mph and is about same price as varla,imo in terms of looks and features,I am personally going with the nanrobot D4 3.0 In blue this summer,looks amazing...
why kaabo mantis in the usa has a 2x500 watt motor and 13 ah battery versions, and in Poland there are only 2x800 watt versions and 18.5 ah or 24.5 ah battery versions?
Please what doo you think I yust both Vsett8 cos off parts and its sturdy bult it is also around 1000€ I pay Vsett8 750€ on black Friday and is it big diferenc wit in riding coality, suspension and power. Mine goes 70km on full charge and max spead is 44km /h with me 80kg 40-42 but are suspension beter and all oround cos I both it in exploring only 1weak :)). And it's on the market for 1,5are so becose of that I ask. Thanks if you answer. Best regards.
What's the point of asking, "Which ~$1000 Scooter is Better?" when you refuse to answer your own question? ANOTHER POINTLESS "WHICH IS BETTER" RUclips VIDEO. Can't trust reviewers who do review like this, too scared to give real opinions.
RK9 or anyone that has the Varla Pegasus, I’m looking for a scooter to do some occasional commuting with some steep hills and need a scooter I could put in the trunk of my car. After riding 2-4 miles I would need to fold up and carry into my carry, school, job, metro - with all this folding, would you recommend the Pegasus? I like how easy it looks to undo, but I’m nervous about that pin that is used to latch the folded post. Thanks! I’ve watched most all your videos in your channel and have enjoyed your honest opinions of each of them. Thanks!
I am thinking about buying Mantis 8 I'd want ECO (rear drive 48V 18.2Ah 800W Motor, Disc brake EABS), but I only have the option of getting PLUS (48v 18.2Ah 2 x 800W Motor, Semi Hydraulic brakes ) and PRO (48v 24.5Ah 2 x 800W Motor, Minimotors Controller and throttle, full hydraulic brakes, LG battery ) Now, the main thing that makes me wanna get the mantis 8 is the tires are tubeless - could anyone tell me if there is any other brands/models aside from EMOVE Cruiser and Ninebot Max that have tubeless pneumatic tires? while being light enough Also, out of the 3 models which would you suggest? I am leaning on the ECO, but can't find it, my only concern is should you spend x2 more for LG batteries if you don't need 75km range (I only need like 20-30km in a day)
Its at the end of the performance section. Top left text. I forgot to voice over the range differences. Mantis actually got better range in my tests than the Pegasus.
They sell you a scooter & when it doesn't work, they will not refund your money, they will not give you another unit, they will barely even talk to you. NEVER buy any Kaabo products, there is ZERO support. It's like playing Russian roulette with your hard earned money. Terrible company with THE WORST customer service possible!
Using this scooter for short commutes is the way to go, as it makes it really fun. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxvyNuxpWiHTNypxG6nyqyf7ywc7Q16PDM Both the levels of speed it allows you to use are very fun, though 20mph can get pretty scary on bad roads. It makes a cool electric sound as it is accelerating. The battery life is also pretty impressive, as I can go anywhere around me within a ~10 mile radius and back home with a full charge. I expected the tires to feel somewhat like a toy, but it is legit, and has pretty good grip on surfaces. Braking on this scooter is also really fun, since you can even do a little drifting if you break hard. The wheels on the scooter are definitely very high quality, as they are wide and well sized. The entire scooter is pretty high quality too. I have fallen on it a couple times because I was being a little reckless, and the scooter still works perfectly fine, with some minor scratches on the sides. I found the brake lights to be very cool as well, since they flash when you brake.
Nice 👍 I just got my Varla pegasus yesterday everything nice 👍 just waiting for varla too tell me how to get the rear light 💡 working I had to send them a video this morning but other than that everything nice on this scooter 🛵
Extra things not mentioned in the video:
- The Pegasus has a much better front head light and a brighter, more well-positioned rear brake light, so if night riding is something you do often then the Pegasus might be more appealing for you. (However, I would suggest a handlebar-mounted light as well for either of these scooters while riding at night.)
- The Mantis 8 comes with a trigger throttle and the Pegasus comes with a thumb throttle. If you are extremely partial to one or the other then this might help you make a decision on which scooter to get. See: ruclips.net/video/JogFGquhAg8/видео.html
Is the scooter waterproof?
So what do you recommend when it comes to the throttles?
i know this sounds moronic but im a boomer and i would love to mount a seat on the pegasus which would also make it comply with pretty strict regulations in my country. you think this is possible to do?
*The Varla Pegasus* I love the solid tires, zero maintenance at all such a solid scooter!
September 11th i bought 2 Pegasus and a eagle one. Took 6 days to reach my door in las vegas. Love them ! The Pegasus is simple and comfortable. 33 is plenty. The large led screen is cool. Wish that screen came on eagle one. I did a bunch or research before purchasing. This is the video i wanted to see before making a decision but i went for it.
I have both scooters. I hate the folding mechanism on the Mantis 8, I like the looser steering on the Mantis, I have had two flat tires on the mantis already and it cost me $45 to have a guy fix the flat. I
like the speed, and the fact it fits in my small trunk. The Varla Pegasus has an easier locking mechanism, good speed, I love that my tires won't go flat, I need to lower my back seat to get the Pegasus in to KY small trunk. All in all they all have pros and cons, but at the end of the day the solid tires I'd what I love.
I honestly cannot believe that you only have 8k subscribers... Your content is amazing!
The thing to consider about the pegasus is that you can adjust the 12th p setting (I think) and you can get insanely fast acceleration
Other things to consider, Warranty -Varla 24 mos, Mantis 18 mos and Mantis is out of stock with an alleged ship date of 9/20 (yesterday). Some your earlier video's on the Mantis were worrisome especially the loose frame. Really happy with my Pegasus. It is heavy but it is well built and with a little P tuning the take off is incredible. Only time will tell how they will fair long term.
Yeah I did have issues with my first 10 inch Mantis, but I am much more confident in this Mantis 8. Much more solid feel and better build quality than the earlier versions of the Mantis. Glad to hear you are liking the Pegasus
I'm in the market for a e-scooter for 5"10 and 250 riders, over the years it's fallen right into my price range so how's it holding up?
Something to not overlook: pegasus has lights and the tail light and braking light are BRIGHT.
True, I didn't think to compare the lights because I don't ride at night too much.
I ended up with the Pegasus and it’s been great so far, it’s quick and smooth
How is the Pegasus holding up? I'm thinking of picking one up.
@@user-jg4ci4mf8w not bad but it definitely uses low quality cells and has pretty massive voltage sag. Unfortunately you're not going to go past 22mph once you fall below 50v, which happens within the first two miles of riding.
@@baconatoromg6062 Wow thanks for that info, I'm so glad I decided not to purchase it.
@@user-jg4ci4mf8w I think you made the right choice. I'm pretty sad I bought it lol. I just upgraded to the Wolf King GT Pro and I haven't looked back
Such a clear comparison. I like the outlook of Pegasus more.
Nah my opinion the pagasus wins hands down! I mean you forgot the light,the large screen indicator,and style ! The mantis looks bland and doesn't stand out like the pegasus.but still good review just left out alot ,almost biast in a way.
True I didn't cover the lights. I tend to avoid riding at night so I didn't think to compare the lights. I personally prefer the sleeker look of the Mantis 8 and I know other people do too. It's personal preference and it's easy enough to just look at the scooters and see which one you like more. What reason would I have to be biased? Giving an opinion will always seem biased if you don't agree with it
Edit: also wanted to say that screen size really isn't a huge selling point for me. All it really does it tell me my speed and I rarely look at it while riding anyway. Hence why I didn't factor it into the comparison. Thanks for your comment ☺️
Agreed, I felt it was bias but to be fair I think he genuinely does like the Mantis better, but Pegasus does have better warranty and im a solid tire kinda guy.. Dude, fixing a flat on any scooter is a pain, eats time and it sucks... plain and simple. If Eagle 1 had solid tires i would have spent the extra 300... but I also feel I wouldn't use the top speed much around here.. or id kill myself @40 mph.. lol
@@rietzhu solid tires on a scooter that goes 40 mph is not really recommended. it makes it a lot less stable at speed
Solid tires and optional seat makes Pegasus the winner IMO
I was watching your other video, beginners guide to scooters, very helpful! Decided on the mantis 8
Excellent comparison and very well put together! I couldn’t agree more!👍 Keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Loved this video literally subscribed and I love the mantis 8 by far one of the best scooters in my opinion
Excellent review. Both are great scooters for the price. It would be a hard choice for sure!
Man.. I've been waiting for this video!!! 🙌
Great review! I was going for Eagle One but now a little struggling between two models
The Eagle One is no comparison. It's a beast and way faster. I got mine about 6 months ago. Currently 500+miles with no maintenance needed and I still LOVE riding it.
another awesome video!!! A couple of things that after riding both scooters perhaps deserve an honourable mention
#1 The lighting that comes stock on the Pegasus is nice to have...not awesome...but still useful if you're coming home in the dark :)
#2 The display on the Pegasus is much better than the Mantis
#3 The brake light on the Pegasus is quite good too
I must say the weight for carrying up and down stairs is quite a bit ....it's not Uscooter :)
Super informative video...love the side by side video and thanks for sharing your experience with range too :)
Cheers from Vancouver Island :)
Luv you huge fan keep up good work never give up on your dreams remember me when your famous
I must say very good content. I haven't had a chance to ride either one yet, but soon I should be able to test ride mantis 8 and 10. Thanks for the great comparison. :)
yep. i'm still debating. also there's a 3rd i was looking at. The CyberBot mini
I took a look at both in late '23 and found the Mantis can now be had about $150 cheaper than the Pegasus. The Pegasus also weighs quite a bit more, 66 lb opposed to 53 lbs. One other thing of minor annoyance, you can see the display reads high on the Pegasus (though it is easier to see) showing 33 mph reading as 35, etc. Not as far off (lies) as some units, but the Mantis gets it dead-on. I don't think the Mantis has a seat option though?
Suspect the Kaabo will prove to be a higher quality machine long term.
Why do so many people fold their scooters. It's so much easier to carry upstairs when you grab the deck and stem to carry.
Amazing video for a lot of folks out there. Keep it up man
One category overlooked: Style...Pegasus is the clear winner.
Facts I got my pegasus yesterday I love it will be posting more videos
I bought one and I’ve gotten a lot of questions about it already. It definitely is a looker
@@cristopher8186 awesome 🤩 I’m loving 🥰 mines it’s a great dual motor scooter and it’s fast 💨 worth everything you pay for
whats the range on it?
@@thermodynamics1110 I will be doing a video on that soon stay tuned heavy Ryder range test and ride videos
I'm considering getting thr Pegasus. I love that bigger ebike screen and no flats sound great to me. I'm more out I'm the country, so I need more reliability. I feel like I'd get flats out here more often than people who live in the city.
@TextMe①⑦①⑤③⑨⓪⑧⑧②① ooorrr, I can report you for trying to impersonate a RUclipsr in an attempt to scam people.
how do you compare it to Apollo City? its the $1050 without promo code n im wondering if its the same class n how it compares
reason why im asking i only found 1 video for Apollo City most is Apollo explore
You should compare the new 9inch Pegasus with the mantis 8
i was on amazon recently and i found a Kaabo mantis for only a little over $800, and it had a top speed of 16 mph???? I don't believe that. only one person had reviewed it giving it a 5 star rating.
If the battery dies in these can they be used as an unpowered kick scooter?
Do you plan on doing a range test on the standard and lowest speed modes on the Pegasus?
Do you slime the Mantis 8 tires?
Love the video's, learn a ton. What's the fastest scooter I can get for $1500?
Varla eagle one does 38-40mph,if your lighter maybe even a smidge over...
Nanrobot D4 3.0 will also do 38-40mph and is about same price as varla,imo in terms of looks and features,I am personally going with the nanrobot D4 3.0 In blue this summer,looks amazing...
Do you think tires alone it's better to just use Pegasus over Mantis? Worried about the reviews about maintenance issues
Great video I like the Pegasus how long does the tires last?
why kaabo mantis in the usa has a 2x500 watt motor and 13 ah battery versions, and in Poland there are only 2x800 watt versions and 18.5 ah or 24.5 ah battery versions?
Widewheel Pro or one of these 👍🏽😊
Please what doo you think I yust both Vsett8 cos off parts and its sturdy bult it is also around 1000€ I pay Vsett8 750€ on black Friday and is it big diferenc wit in riding coality, suspension and power. Mine goes 70km on full charge and max spead is 44km /h with me 80kg 40-42 but are suspension beter and all oround cos I both it in exploring only 1weak :)). And it's on the market for 1,5are so becose of that I ask. Thanks if you answer. Best regards.
Is it the heavier steering or the longer wheelbase adding to the stability of the Pegasus?
What's you opinion on VSETT8? How does it compare to these two? Thx
I had both of these and got rid of the Pegasus.
In my opinion the mantis is much more equipped and sturdy.
Is the Mantis good for off road let's say light off road? Thanks for your time
Brake in depth tuning tutorial would help
For Mantis 8 - Do you know how to change the display kph to miles per hour? The instructions aren’t right.
Are these actually legal in US, European asking. Here in Finland we have to register them if they go more than 25kmh(15.5mph).
What's the point of asking, "Which ~$1000 Scooter is Better?" when you refuse to answer your own question? ANOTHER POINTLESS "WHICH IS BETTER" RUclips VIDEO. Can't trust reviewers who do review like this, too scared to give real opinions.
RK9 or anyone that has the Varla Pegasus, I’m looking for a scooter to do some occasional commuting with some steep hills and need a scooter I could put in the trunk of my car. After riding 2-4 miles I would need to fold up and carry into my carry, school, job, metro - with all this folding, would you recommend the Pegasus? I like how easy it looks to undo, but I’m nervous about that pin that is used to latch the folded post.
Thanks! I’ve watched most all your videos in your channel and have enjoyed your honest opinions of each of them.
Thanks!
it works great for me, very convinient
Hello, I'm torn between the pagasus and fluid's Vista. Please help.
Pegasus is better
I am thinking about buying Mantis 8
I'd want ECO (rear drive 48V 18.2Ah 800W Motor, Disc brake EABS), but I only have the option of getting
PLUS (48v 18.2Ah 2 x 800W Motor, Semi Hydraulic brakes
) and
PRO (48v 24.5Ah 2 x 800W Motor, Minimotors Controller and throttle, full hydraulic brakes, LG battery
)
Now, the main thing that makes me wanna get the mantis 8 is the tires are tubeless - could anyone tell me if there is any other brands/models aside from EMOVE Cruiser and Ninebot Max that have tubeless pneumatic tires? while being light enough
Also, out of the 3 models which would you suggest? I am leaning on the ECO, but can't find it, my only concern is should you spend x2 more for LG batteries if you don't need 75km range (I only need like 20-30km in a day)
speedxman cyberbot mini the best , i pay 800euros and i have an 35mph top speed , and big battery 19,2ah
How do these both compare to the Nanrobot Lightning?
I want to order Varla Eagle One . Are Varla brand made in USA?
I ordered a pegasus
filmed in herriman utah
hello, how are both the scooters compared after a year?
I've narrowed down my options to these 2. thank you for sharing
i got a 40 mph one on amazon for 1050 bucks, dual motor each 1000 watts. a little over 20 mile range going 35mph
Pegasus is way better
@@raygrenade1697still good
Did you test them for steep hills by chance?
what app u using for speed check?
You didn’t do range!😢
I liked.
Mantis 8 can ride in rain?
no mention of range? i heard the range is very bad on mantis 8
Its at the end of the performance section. Top left text. I forgot to voice over the range differences. Mantis actually got better range in my tests than the Pegasus.
I have both it is bad if u ride fast along but if u mix it up its great
So what he’s basically saying is this guy’s choice would be the Pegasus?
Pegasus ❤️🙏🏻
what state do you live in
Who slimes their tires on their Kaabo Mantis?
I do like that display on the Pegasus tho :/
Wide wheel pro ✌️
I am still waiting for my Mantis to ship
This is why i went varla. Took 6 days to reach my door.
@Scrangle Mcjangle when? They said the new model was suppose to start shipping yesterday which is why it was on pre order the last 2 months
model 182
This guy is paid by mantis the Pegasus is better
Does the mantis require an app to use?
No
Pegasus can be fast if you put it in KICK
Idk which one to get 🙄
I went Pegasus with no regrets. The large led is Nice and easy to see compared to the mantis style. Its comfortable and goes plenty fast.
Once you experience the stability of the Pegasus you can’t go back
Ok u guys convinced me to buy Pegasus 🙂
Can’t go wrong with either one. However eagle one vs mantis 10. I’d go the 10 every time
Hi how are you
Pegasus hands down 😂
Can i have your varla pegasus bro 😞
Jesus Loves all of you guys
They sell you a scooter & when it doesn't work, they will not refund your money, they will not give you another unit, they will barely even talk to you. NEVER buy any Kaabo products, there is ZERO support. It's like playing Russian roulette with your hard earned money. Terrible company with THE WORST customer service possible!
Using this scooter for short commutes is the way to go, as it makes it really fun. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxvyNuxpWiHTNypxG6nyqyf7ywc7Q16PDM Both the levels of speed it allows you to use are very fun, though 20mph can get pretty scary on bad roads. It makes a cool electric sound as it is accelerating. The battery life is also pretty impressive, as I can go anywhere around me within a ~10 mile radius and back home with a full charge. I expected the tires to feel somewhat like a toy, but it is legit, and has pretty good grip on surfaces. Braking on this scooter is also really fun, since you can even do a little drifting if you break hard. The wheels on the scooter are definitely very high quality, as they are wide and well sized. The entire scooter is pretty high quality too. I have fallen on it a couple times because I was being a little reckless, and the scooter still works perfectly fine, with some minor scratches on the sides. I found the brake lights to be very cool as well, since they flash when you brake.
Shit looks flimsy and trash
Nice 👍 I just got my Varla pegasus yesterday everything nice 👍 just waiting for varla too tell me how to get the rear light 💡 working I had to send them a video this morning but other than that everything nice on this scooter 🛵