@@bslothed3211 i mean used for some reason there price drops big time. there was a like 4 videos on the topic of S3 bigger brakes virtual cockpit and cool exterior notion lighting. Dude in Blue made a video. plus your actual getting Audi RS3 same chassis and good aftermarket support
I’ve got a 7.5 Golf R and EQT is HUGE in our community. have always seen people mixing turbos with the EQT custom software but no one’s done better (that I know of) ( and as far as a drop in bolt in turbo) then the EQT Vortex XL pared with their software. EQT is an awesome company!
S3 all day over the others.. I have basically the same car... FL 2018 S3, Im just about to go to stage 2 with 034 motorsports and calling it a day. This car is my daily driver and Im aiming for the perfect reliable /quick car without pushing the limits at all of this engine. I have my CTS direct fit intercooler (new version ) and CTS downpipe already. My S3 is already pretty quick, runs low 12s in the quarter with just stage 1 ECU/TCU from 034. This platform is amazing, just stay on maintenance and these cars will last a long long time.
Ay nice on the 1/4 time. I'm about to pickup a 2016 S3 next week. Already test drove it when it was bone stock and it hauled ass, I could just imagine what a simple stage 1 would feel like
100% audi 4 life here. Love this car, have basically the same S3 in mythos black metallic. Im going stage 2 and stopping there because I want a really reliable daily driver. Im going with 034 for my tuning because its probably the safest tune out there while still having great power output.
@@volkssturm9694 doing the same with my B5 man, I've put a garrett gt2871r on it and only want a conservative tune because I want it to last because the car is like new. From what I've read on the various audi forums 034 is the best tune out there.
I think it’s the Best Buy right now all Audi S3 look like RS3. And all come with dsg trans. There are VW Golf R for sale but it’s crazy expensive unless you get a manual which half the PRICE. CRAZY
@COmotorsports If your planning to eventually go bigger turbo, full e85, port injection and all supporting mods is there any big benefits to starting with an s3 over an a3? I.e. are there major improvements in the shortblock, or in the transmission, drivetrain?
@@COMotorsports i was just curious because of the way it pop out look like boost reference or some boost gauge line. keep the great work! Always watching the new videos. here in Portugal we are much like on diesel tuning only, so i come here to see what we are missing XD
I’m bias but the S3 with the carbon package is super sexy. I agree 💯 that the Golf R is more practical, but there is something about the hot hatch boy racer look that I’m over after 10 years with a GR STi. Mine is an 18 S3 with and IE intercooler, intake GT2260s, and an CTS MPI kit. For a very very loose comparison is made 395WHP / Mustang on E30. It made peak torque of 395 at 2900. The turbo is pretty much on the upper end of its flow as it’s getting close to the 185K RPM limit. My engine bay looks very simple to this one. Lol
@@DSW_Racing Yes. You can get away with E40 on the HPFP just fine, but the injection window is pretty tight and there isn’t much headroom. I also like the idea of getting some fuel to the backside of the intake valves to help with carbon deposits. Also, for track days I like to run a bit more ethanol to help with the heat. I’m actually going to revert back to a stock HPFP with the MPI now installed.
hi guys can you tell me when i look at dyno sheet from integarted engenering on golf R mk6 st2g pro witn intake sayain 380 HP and 410 lb-ps is it a crank or at wheel ? And for the S3 409 hp at wheel how much at crank ? About just to have an idea. People alway ask me number on my car !
Hey boys, another great MQB video. Real quick though I couldn't catch the part about the down pipe. Did you say it's running stock down pipe right now with those numbers? Keep up the amazing job fellas! Never give up!
@@carlow_fc1 funny as soon as you mentioned CTS i remember him saying that lol. Yo they should have done runs on the stock down pipe. I bet at 30 psi they'd blow the innereds right out. Haha funny as hell
What's the longevity on setups like this? Im looking at a car with 126k on it, same build but with a gt2260. My local Audi guy (Rathana at Ratified) is becoming a bit averse to big power ea888 builds. Both because of the eq250 and he said hes seen a couple with cylinder issues. But we've got some around here at 600hp.
if we could get the hatchback 8V (aside from the etron and 2.0 tdi) id be so happy. ive thought about looking for a TDI hatch that needs an engine/trans and swapping a 888.4 or maybe even the new HPA VR6, but money is a thing
If it's dyno'd on linked dyno to keep the car happy, then basically no different as the only time the rear wheels are engaged is if the front wheels are spinning (loss of traction).
1. No 2. You clearly don't understand how a Haldex based car work. A chassis dyno measures at the wheels, and our dyno displays the power measured at the wheels.
Hi, I have a MK7 R with the APR DTR6054 setup. My setup includes the HPFP and the LPFP from APR running on 93 octane. Mine dyno'd at 399whp. I am looking to go down the custom tune route from EQT, similar to what you've achieved here. Comparing your results to mine is very apples to oranges, considering the variance in fueling, and hardware.. so my results might vary, however adding that much power with just a custom tune is fantastic and very promising. Do you guys have any of this guys time slips from the 1/8th mile? Maybe a before and after? Did this car also get a DSG tune from EQT? Or stick with with APR one?
Very cool! When you guys originally dyno'd it with the APR tune, did you notice power output variances specifically dependent on the IATs? The reason I ask, during my experience with the turbo and APR tune, the performance varies drastically depending on IAT.@@COMotorsports
We have a 2022 S3 and a 2023 Golf R. I like them both, but if I was to pick one, I would take the S3. I have a question: You said the car you are modifying is an S3, but it's a 2 wheel drive. S3s are 4 wheel drive. From here, it looks as if the car you are modifying is an A3, not an S3. Would you please elaborate?
How much does the entire upgrades cost? If I were to go with a larger intercooler and an ACU and a TCU tune on the Audi (91 octane gas) how much more power will the car make at the wheels and what would be the estimated cost? I am considering doing that since we bought the S3 in October 2021, and by next October, the manufacturer warranty will be up.
Love and prefer a Golf R...I just sold my 2018 Golf R and went alt schule and got a 2004 MK4 Golf GtI 1.8T. I miss the 292 stock hp the golf R had. I'd like this MK4 to attain 350/400 HP....What would it take? What would you guys do to a GTI MK4 that only has had an air intake added to it in all its years and 18200 kms?
I like both the golf r and the s3 I honestly don’t think I prefer one over the other look wise. But practicality wise golf r is better due to being hatchback.
Damn 342/337 was on APR software and stock downpipe? That’s surprisingly low conspired to what APR advertises. I’m at 5k ft elevation, maybe I should go a different route.
When it comes to the VAG cars, I definitely prefer the hatches and wagons. I'd love a Golf R, but a RS6 Avant is one of my halo cars. However, old Hondas I prefer the sedans - my 91 still being one of my favorite body styles. Angular, but rounded just enough to not look overly boxy, wonderful proportions...
Audi did North America a disservice by not offering the hatchback and manual transmissions. I love Audis, but I don’t see buying anything newer than about 2007.
@@dB_944 yeah was a bad move I reckon, even the engines aren't as good after 2001. Can't beat the old 1.8t motors. I'm glad my car has three pedals. I took it to the audi dealership to have the airbags replaced and on the dashcam audio i could hear almost every person who drove it stall it lmao.
I feel like golf R is just better value for what you get. You Get the Audi s3 if you want more luxurious ride. I own a mk6 R and a B7 A4. I want to replace my A4 with a newer A4.
not true at all, the Golf R comes at a premium price...the Golf R is considered the "top model" of all VWs, plus the demand, the price is approx. 5-8 grand more given the equivalent model audi S3, Golf R. The Audi S3 is definitely the better value. Ive driven both and shopped for both. Don't get me wrong, the Golf R is amazing as well , it will be a hair faster since it weighs about 300 lbs less.
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Gonna be a fun one.
Golf R / GTi
Audi S3 so much cheaper virtual cockpit and all are DSG
@@moereefer S3 is not cheaper lol but I way prefer the S3, more classy but it's personal preference.
@@bslothed3211 i mean used for some reason there price drops big time. there was a like 4 videos on the topic of S3 bigger brakes virtual cockpit and cool exterior notion lighting. Dude in Blue made a video. plus your actual getting Audi RS3 same chassis and good aftermarket support
I’ve got a 7.5 Golf R and EQT is HUGE in our community. have always seen people mixing turbos with the EQT custom software but no one’s done better (that I know of) ( and as far as a drop in bolt in turbo) then the EQT Vortex XL pared with their software. EQT is an awesome company!
Thanks! S3, four doors please.
Appreciate it, I'm a 2 dr guy. 2dr Golf R's... wish we still got them.
S3 all day over the others.. I have basically the same car... FL 2018 S3, Im just about to go to stage 2 with 034 motorsports and calling it a day. This car is my daily driver and Im aiming for the perfect reliable /quick car without pushing the limits at all of this engine. I have my CTS direct fit intercooler (new version ) and CTS downpipe already. My S3 is already pretty quick, runs low 12s in the quarter with just stage 1 ECU/TCU from 034. This platform is amazing, just stay on maintenance and these cars will last a long long time.
Ay nice on the 1/4 time. I'm about to pickup a 2016 S3 next week. Already test drove it when it was bone stock and it hauled ass, I could just imagine what a simple stage 1 would feel like
500hp R, ultimate DD IMHO. That hatch practicality is hard to beat.
S3 is growing on me as well looks so damn good
I'm totally biased on the Audi's, they're just so good looking. 😍
Plus all dsg more options and virtual cockpit
100% audi 4 life here. Love this car, have basically the same S3 in mythos black metallic. Im going stage 2 and stopping there because I want a really reliable daily driver. Im going with 034 for my tuning because its probably the safest tune out there while still having great power output.
@@moereefer I prefer my B5 with three pedals lol.
@@volkssturm9694 doing the same with my B5 man, I've put a garrett gt2871r on it and only want a conservative tune because I want it to last because the car is like new. From what I've read on the various audi forums 034 is the best tune out there.
I think it’s the Best Buy right now all Audi S3 look like RS3. And all come with dsg trans. There are VW Golf R for sale but it’s crazy expensive unless you get a manual which half the PRICE. CRAZY
Golf r is mt favorite out of the two. Great video!
Great video like always!
S3 2014-2018 FTW! get best of both worlds with the S3
Me and Cory gonna go hard this summer lol
Audi S3 for the interior, R for the hatch, shame we don't get the hatch S3.
Yes or the rs3 hatch...bogus.
@COmotorsports If your planning to eventually go bigger turbo, full e85, port injection and all supporting mods is there any big benefits to starting with an s3 over an a3? I.e. are there major improvements in the shortblock, or in the transmission, drivetrain?
Nice, what did pop off at 4:33 min in the engine bay?
Just the ground for the dyno.
@@COMotorsports i was just curious because of the way it pop out look like boost reference or some boost gauge line. keep the great work! Always watching the new videos. here in Portugal we are much like on diesel tuning only, so i come here to see what we are missing XD
What numbers you think are capable on e85
How much do you think 93 octane would net with the upgrades done to this S3?
Few more HP.
I’m bias but the S3 with the carbon package is super sexy. I agree 💯 that the Golf R is more practical, but there is something about the hot hatch boy racer look that I’m over after 10 years with a GR STi.
Mine is an 18 S3 with and IE intercooler, intake GT2260s, and an CTS MPI kit.
For a very very loose comparison is made 395WHP / Mustang on E30. It made peak torque of 395 at 2900. The turbo is pretty much on the upper end of its flow as it’s getting close to the 185K RPM limit.
My engine bay looks very simple to this one. Lol
You're running MPI with the 2260?? I am just on upgraded HPFP only and run 400 whp on e40 with IE stage 3 tune.
@@DSW_Racing Yes. You can get away with E40 on the HPFP just fine, but the injection window is pretty tight and there isn’t much headroom. I also like the idea of getting some fuel to the backside of the intake valves to help with carbon deposits. Also, for track days I like to run a bit more ethanol to help with the heat. I’m actually going to revert back to a stock HPFP with the MPI now installed.
I heard cts downpipe and res delete, but is it stock muffler? sounds pretty quiet imo
hi guys can you tell me when i look at dyno sheet from integarted engenering on golf R mk6 st2g pro witn intake sayain 380 HP and 410 lb-ps is it a crank or at wheel ? And for the S3 409 hp at wheel how much at crank ? About just to have an idea.
People alway ask me number on my car !
Hey boys, another great MQB video. Real quick though I couldn't catch the part about the down pipe. Did you say it's running stock down pipe right now with those numbers? Keep up the amazing job fellas! Never give up!
No, he said that the upgraded turbo may use the stock downpipe, the car currently has a CTS downpipe. Hope that clears your question.
@@carlow_fc1 funny as soon as you mentioned CTS i remember him saying that lol. Yo they should have done runs on the stock down pipe. I bet at 30 psi they'd blow the innereds right out. Haha funny as hell
We're looking to keep things alive around here lol.
Any idea what transmission model comes in a automatic 2014 jetta sportwagen 2.5l I've been trying to find it but yea no luck
I'm a hb/wagon persona myself. Also I'm sure you heard HPA is buying a bunch of Chinese market 2,5 vr6 motors to build up and sell!
Golf r coming in to the shops soon im excited
Does this one have the 6sp DSG or the 7sp?
What's the longevity on setups like this? Im looking at a car with 126k on it, same build but with a gt2260.
My local Audi guy (Rathana at Ratified) is becoming a bit averse to big power ea888 builds. Both because of the eq250 and he said hes seen a couple with cylinder issues. But we've got some around here at 600hp.
Anything's possible, but with proper parts, proper tuning they're great.
if we could get the hatchback 8V (aside from the etron and 2.0 tdi) id be so happy. ive thought about looking for a TDI hatch that needs an engine/trans and swapping a 888.4 or maybe even the new HPA VR6, but money is a thing
I know y'all dyno them in fwd but what about would the numbers be at all 4 wheels?
If it's dyno'd on linked dyno to keep the car happy, then basically no different as the only time the rear wheels are engaged is if the front wheels are spinning (loss of traction).
I like Golf R but the s3 cheap price and lower miles you can find in the market
Did you guys pull driveshaft to run on the fwd dyno?? How can you say it 400 whp if its not to all 4 tires?
1. No
2. You clearly don't understand how a Haldex based car work. A chassis dyno measures at the wheels, and our dyno displays the power measured at the wheels.
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@@COMotorsports 1. Thanks
2. You clearly haven’t had enough coffee today to deal with another question about haldex…
@@michael.j.willson google how haldex works. 😉
Hi, I have a MK7 R with the APR DTR6054 setup. My setup includes the HPFP and the LPFP from APR running on 93 octane. Mine dyno'd at 399whp. I am looking to go down the custom tune route from EQT, similar to what you've achieved here. Comparing your results to mine is very apples to oranges, considering the variance in fueling, and hardware.. so my results might vary, however adding that much power with just a custom tune is fantastic and very promising. Do you guys have any of this guys time slips from the 1/8th mile? Maybe a before and after? Did this car also get a DSG tune from EQT? Or stick with with APR one?
Still APR TCU Software, car just ran 7.3 in the 1/8th last weekend the exact way it's driven. He thinks there's a little more in it.
Very cool! When you guys originally dyno'd it with the APR tune, did you notice power output variances specifically dependent on the IATs? The reason I ask, during my experience with the turbo and APR tune, the performance varies drastically depending on IAT.@@COMotorsports
@@patrickpl94 Not on the dyno as it's pretty consistent but I do know IAT can play a large factor on these.
@@patrickpl94 so it is best to use cold air intake with DTR6054? Im on 91 map making 390whp with open air intake. iat was 45c-40c during dyno.
Where are you guys located?
The golf doesn’t come in a two-door convertible
We have a 2022 S3 and a 2023 Golf R. I like them both, but if I was to pick one, I would take the S3. I have a question: You said the car you are modifying is an S3, but it's a 2 wheel drive. S3s are 4 wheel drive. From here, it looks as if the car you are modifying is an A3, not an S3. Would you please elaborate?
It's 100% an S3 and 100% AWD.
Did you disconnect the rear differential to put it on the dyno?
@@TomShirazi Haldex is electronically controlled. Just unplugged it.
How much does the entire upgrades cost? If I were to go with a larger intercooler and an ACU and a TCU tune on the Audi (91 octane gas) how much more power will the car make at the wheels and what would be the estimated cost? I am considering doing that since we bought the S3 in October 2021, and by next October, the manufacturer warranty will be up.
You guys ok?
Could you guys do a b5.5? A built 4motion 1.8t passat wagon would be sick asfff
1.8ts are basically all the same. So the chassis their in is irrelevant. A big turbo 1.8t is a big turbo 1.8t.
Have you tuned a hybrid a3?
Haven't even seen one.
S3 over R i like a sunroof lol
Love and prefer a Golf R...I just sold my 2018 Golf R and went alt schule and got a 2004 MK4 Golf GtI 1.8T. I miss the 292 stock hp the golf R had. I'd like this MK4 to attain 350/400 HP....What would it take? What would you guys do to a GTI MK4 that only has had an air intake added to it in all its years and 18200 kms?
I'd trade it in for a mk7r. Lol
I’m at the beginning of the video so forgive me if it’s mentioned but what does a fbo is38 usually make on 91 on your dyno?
I like both the golf r and the s3 I honestly don’t think I prefer one over the other look wise. But practicality wise golf r is better due to being hatchback.
@@LoXHumaN highest is38 91oct we've seen is 350whp. Which was APR.
Curious why not E30 or E85? Seems like a lot more left, especially if crap 91 is what’s available locally. Nice build 🤘🏻🔥
Because we don't have ethanol here at the pump.
@@COMotorsports man, that sucks. Still a solid build!!
Damn 342/337 was on APR software and stock downpipe? That’s surprisingly low conspired to what APR advertises. I’m at 5k ft elevation, maybe I should go a different route.
Could have been the car, we did no stock dyno comparisons so we have nothing to go by for comparison hence why I didn't touch on it much.
in the market for a 2018-19 A3 love the sleepers
Yeah the AWD a3 is a good bang for the buck.
Yeah, people always get surprised when I race them and they ask what kind of Audi it is. It’s just an A3 with now an is38
When it comes to the VAG cars, I definitely prefer the hatches and wagons. I'd love a Golf R, but a RS6 Avant is one of my halo cars.
However, old Hondas I prefer the sedans - my 91 still being one of my favorite body styles. Angular, but rounded just enough to not look overly boxy, wonderful proportions...
*91 civic
Hatch back or wagon all day every day!
APR coilpacks is a mod? And R over S3/A3 but VW treats it like some mythical creature and does not build nearly as many as the S3/A3 platform.
We've made well over 500whp on multiple cars with them, however stock work also.
S3 looks better for me
That original whp is horrible. Hence it was tuned by Apr. unfortunately this turbo is only worth it if you don’t go with apr’s tune
Sportback/hatchback for me.
I would prefer an R because of extra junk in the trunk.
Audi A3 all day or S3
S3 with dtr6054 2 bar boost, 458whp
what fuel?
Well I got an R so I'm gonna say R plus I like the manual. Wish Audi would let VW put the 5 in the R.
They'd never sell rs3s if that was the case.
R400 was canned after diesel gate.
But if you have deep pockets you can get a totaled RS3/TTRS and do a motor swap on a R..
Audi did North America a disservice by not offering the hatchback and manual transmissions. I love Audis, but I don’t see buying anything newer than about 2007.
Wise move, the older generation Audi's are where it's at. 😉👍
@@CliffB5A4 they stopped making manual Avants in 2007. :(
@@dB_944 yeah was a bad move I reckon, even the engines aren't as good after 2001. Can't beat the old 1.8t motors.
I'm glad my car has three pedals. I took it to the audi dealership to have the airbags replaced and on the dashcam audio i could hear almost every person who drove it stall it lmao.
S3 for me.
I feel like golf R is just better value for what you get. You Get the Audi s3 if you want more luxurious ride. I own a mk6 R and a B7 A4. I want to replace my A4 with a newer A4.
not true at all, the Golf R comes at a premium price...the Golf R is considered the "top model" of all VWs, plus the demand, the price is approx. 5-8 grand more given the equivalent model audi S3, Golf R. The Audi S3 is definitely the better value. Ive driven both and shopped for both. Don't get me wrong, the Golf R is amazing as well , it will be a hair faster since it weighs about 300 lbs less.
Your also forgetting the S3 doesn't have a manual transmission option while the R does.
Definitely the Golf R. With an S-3 it just looks like your trying to hard.. I like to stay in my lane.
Golf R all day for me
Golf for me, the Original....
That sucks about your gas. I have not bought 91 octane in years. LOL
My car isn't even fast.
S3 over R for me.
oh hell yes, me 2, I have the same one basically .Amazing car, mine is stage 1 and it definitely RIPS some shots.!
Golf R > S3
same car, but NO S3>>>>R
You forget a lot dude…
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@@Mitch.Pro.Construction you're welcome.
Golf r