The Perfect Rectangle Watch: JLC Reverso & Cartier Tank?
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- A Discussion around two of the most iconic rectangular watches in the world. The Cartier Tank and Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso are both perfect in their own right. Existing for a century, still remaining relevant with designs that are seen as both timeless and contemporary. Where Cartier favours design and image, Jaeger LeCoultre aims at pushing a minimalistic approach that fuses with their watchmaking technology. The Question is: Which would you choose?
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the buget option could be the new Oris Rectangular 😉
@@apangurra2775 Or a Tissot Banana or a Longines DolceVita. I was SO close to adding "honourable mentions" BUT the clip was already 15 and a half minutes long 😆 Great shout on the new Oris, Apan. Maybe we're seeing a new shift in shapes?
The best thing about the Cartier Tank and the Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso: Timeless design, and available to purchase at retail.
Exactly! We might even see a time where these kinds of pieces become the choices for enthusiasts over the now insane prices of other brands (that will remain nameless) 😉
To be honest they’re available under retail if you shop grey market. As nice as it is to go into a boutique and get that experience, now that I’ve had it a few times, I’m now happy to save 20% and miss out on the free drink/gift or even the relationship with AD.
JLC made the movements for Cartier. The watchmakers watchmaker!
After seeing the Reverso 16 years ago and falling in love with it and promising myself I would have one I finally collected my Duoface small seconds yesterday and haven't stop flipping the dial and enjoying it's beauty
Sixteen Years? Massive congratulations David... what a milestone! Don't you love how well-timed these videos are? So often owners will share stories of picking up the exact watch on the same day. Amazing. Wear it in good health and what a way to start the year?? 🥃
@@ID-Guy I saw it in connecting through Charles de Gaulle airport returning home on Christmas Eve 2005 from my first overseas assignment as a recently graduated engineer. Many years, projects and countries later the reverso has become my first luxury piece after always having a look at one whenever I went through an airport duty free.
Awsome! Wear in good health.
Congratulations! I think I know how good that feels as I got my new Duoface last year, after swearing at the age of 15 (in 1995) that I would get one. I’d had a Reverso classique 10 years ago but it was a bit small for me, quartz, steel and gold…and in not great condition. I liked it but it wasn’t what I really wanted.
Alongside a decent beater dive watch (I have a Seiko mm300) the Reverso is the perfect watch for me and I think my collecting and endless consumption of new watches is finally over.
Enjoy yours in good health🥂
Hoping to do the same .
Couple of years ago I sold my Cartier Tank and purchased a JLC Reverso Classic with small seconds. It's one of my "go to" dress watch. After two years I still love looking at this Jaeger LeCoultre on my wrist.
Happy New Year Everyone! 🥃 Question to all of you: Which would you choose? Tank or Reverso?
Reverso, for sure!
Same goes for you and everyone who is reading this 👍
I Would go in terms of the Mechanic behind the watch, for the reverso but i also like the tank. So i would choose a reverso for a daily purpose , and the tank as go out watch. Ik first it Sounds stupid, but you can reverse the jlc and that gives you morer versatility like if you want to wear it more undercover you can reverse it to the blank side of the case
I never thought a rectangular watch would suit me but after trying one on I ended up buying the Reverso tribute moon.
I originally intended on wearing it as a classic dress watch but ended wearing it with t shirt and shorts or whatever.
I’d now really love to get a Tank Louis in yellow gold.
@@Dazza1977P great i,m also looking forward to get my hands on an vintage cartier tank must de cartier and the jlc reverso moonphase Was a great choice i,m my opinion. Congrats on your purchase👍. I was fortuned enough to got the Chance to try all cartier tank models on and i loved the cartier tank moonphase which looks so classy. I personally think that, especially the reverso handpainted micro paintings on there limited editions are astonishing and absolutely beautyfully made by hand .
Both iconic, but I'd go for a Reverso. Love the art deco styling and the dial that flips.
Great video about two great watch families. I am fortunate enough to own a Reverso and a Tank, although not the classics. The Reverso Squadra Hometime was a Christmas gift to myself in 2009. Quite huge for a Reverso but still elegant enough to wear it with a suit. As a mechanical engineer I do love its flipping mechanism but also how they integrated the GMT function. Whenever I feel the desire to look at the movement I do not even have to strip it off my wrist. Only a Reverso can do that.
Half a year ago I bought the Tank Americaine in medium size. Completely different thing and it is obvious that design is king, while movement and technical details are in the background. I can understand why Andy Warhol never felt the need to wind his Tank. It is just there, a piece of art on the wrist.
Reverso gets my vote (I’ll take a Tank as well if there’s one going!). A case has to be made to start saving up for the 100 year anniversary of the Reverso too. Interestingly, Oris have done the opposite of your suggestion with their new Rectangular watch: a Tank case with a Revserso dial. It works well
Mechanically, the reverso wins, but the aesthetic value of the Cartier tank is up there with any watch ever made. It’s hard to ignore: the rich history, uniqueness of the iconic case, crown, and Roman numerals - along with flawless proportions that blend design economy and stylistic flourishes seamlessly. It’s a design that has persisted in many forms as it is timeless. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for the relatively chunky-looking Reverso, which looks like a repurposed chunk of the Chrysler building. My vote goes to the Tank, but I certainly wouldn’t turn down a Reverso. Love them both for different reasons.
Reverso wins everywhere.
Both are iconic. I was looking to purchase either the JLC or a Cartier Tank Americaine - I went for the Reverso - but could have bought either and been just as happy.
I’m lucky enough to own a Reverso monoface. I’m a fan of art deco and love the streamliner look which the Reverso has in spades. I had the back engraved by JLC and it’s absolutely ‘my watch’. I love the versatility offered by the quick change straps too - they’re expensive but the quality is off the scale. I have the black alligator strap the watch came on and the Casa Faglioni designed brown strap so I can dress it up and dress it down. When I say dress it down, for me that’s with a casual long sleeved shirt - it’s not one for wearing with a t-shirt, at least not for me. I love the uniqueness of it - I’ve never seen someone with a JLC, let alone a Reverso. Great video too!
Had always leaned towards rectangular watches that started with a Longines Mirage I purchased in 1982.
Between a JLC Reverso and a Cartier Tank I would choose the Reverso monoface.
On the Cartier end of the spectrum, I would go for a medium Santos or a Tank MC.
Great video as always.
Excellent review--as always. I bought a Cartier Santos last year, and chose it over the Tank. It was something of a close call, but ultimately I was swayed by the engineering side of things. Most of the Tank Must collection is quartz, except for the Tank Must XL. The problem with that watch is that it is so big that it seems like a Tank that is trying not to be a Tank. The ideal Tank, in my view, would be a Tank Must in steel, with the large size, but with the mechanical movement that is in the rose gold Tank Louis. I would buy that in a heartbeat. Instead, this year, I am strongly considering getting a Reverso--most likely the small seconds version. So this review was timely for me, and insightful.
That's the reason why I excluded the Santos from the talk 😉(We'd all go mad for it if given the choice) - Great call about the sizes and Tank Louis. And I'm happy that this brought the subject to your attention. Something tells me a lot of us will be looking at these two brands this year (they're definitely becoming more popular lately I've seen) Thank you for taking the time to watch the clip, brother 🥃
The steel Tank with a mechanical movement would then probably cost as much as an Américaine: £6000.
Man I am such a sucker for a rectangular watch! I truly love both of these, but I think the Tank will always be my choice! The design just speaks to me a little bit more. It just feels a bit more camp I think! And I am in the Cult de Cartier so that's probably a factor too. ;)
I love that franken piece with Cartier dial in Reverso case at 13:00; it just works so well as if that's how they designed it originally.
Great video I have owned a Cartier tank since 1985 and I still find it to be one most beautiful watch ever made and funny enough it's a small watch for my big wrist but such a pleasure to wear
And that's just it Franco, heart wins over head every time. There's so much more "emotion" to Cartiers designs that will always speak to me more. Fantastic that you've been able to rock the watch for all these decades and it's still a part of you. Thank you for sharing, brother 🥃
Excellent overview, best for 2022. Your passion is infectious.
Your analysis of the fundamental problem in selecting the right Cartier Tank or JLC Reverso is spot on and exactly the dilemma I currently face. These are both grail watches for me. However, I recently devised a solution. I bought the Tank Must de Cartier for my wife and will some day acquire the Reverso duoface for myself. The plan of course assumes my wife will let me borrow her Tank, which she has thus far guarded jealousy. Maybe it wasn't such a good plan...
I plan to make the Cartier tank my next watch purchase. Thanks for this video.
My pleasure George. It's a question that's been on my mind for a while (and has definitely help push me to looking at Cartier more too 😆) Ah, this hobby... Good luck with your hunt!
While not in the discussion, but adjacent, I voted by getting a Santos, with an eye on getting a Reverso medium small seconds down the road. As a collector, if I buy one of each maker, the Reverso is an icon for JLC and the regular tank did not appeal to me like the Santos and those two remain different enough to add a little versatility to the box.
I deliberately left out models like the JLC Squadra and Santos because they're "too square looking" ;) But if I had to throw the Santos into the ring I'm sure it would get so much more love...Great call deciding on both of those pieces, they offer two very different sides (excuse the pun) of a similar coin 😆 Thanks for this CB!
I’d get all three if I could, most like will in the end. I’ve tried and deliberated over them for a while still yet to decide on my first rectangular watch. I’d probably start with the standard quartz tank and work my way up, unless an opportunity to get one of the others at a great price presents itself 🤞🏿
I like both but find the Reverso to be far more aestheticly pleasing.
Thank you! Andy Warhol: “I don’t wear a Tank watch to tell the time. In fact, I never wind it. I wear a Tank because it’s the watch to wear.” I often wonder why there aren't more modern rectangular watch designs since it seems a more natural, more casual, less awkward shape than that clumsy puck on your wrist.
For me, the reverso feels more substantial on the wrist, has better finishing and detailing. The duo face models take it to another level.
Cartier asked Jlc to design their watch. The cartier basculante. JLC is truly the watchmakers watchmaker
I could not agree more, the only thing of mention these two designs have in common is the dial shape. As I'm from an engineering background the choice is likely to be clear. I have the Reverso Duoface small seconds. The reverse dark dial really takes the opposite aesthetic to the front. It is the opposite if the front silvered dial. One uses Arabic numerals, the other uses batons, one uses rectangles for the face (silver) the other uses a round border for the hands and day/night dial. It even goes down to the dial finish, one using a textured guilloche on the inner dial and the other on the outside. A fantastic piece. Having said all that I really want a Cartier Tank at some point. They are both great designs. No clear winner.
Such a great split with colour choices for your Duoface. Still blows me away how you can get a 2-for-1 today and the watch, like us, can change its "mood". Engineers would love the tech that goes into them (me included) The mechanics are amazing... Think what's happened to me is my heart wants the more "arty" Tank. My head would always say Reverso 😆 Tough, tough choice all round... Think it's ideal to just own both 🥃
One of your best video discussions/comparisons. Seriously good! Thanks 🍻
Great video. Thank you for posting. Your voice I find strangely hypnotic and completely engaging. I have both watches and love them both. Tank solo XL and duoface 2015 version.
It's all in the microphone and recording setup, I promise 😆 You also have the best deal with these pieces. I think the conclusion is to just own both (My ideal choice would be the Tank in precious metal and the Reverso in Stainless) Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the clip! 🥃
The Reverso with an Art Deco design engraved on the back is my dream watch. With one hand on the wheel while driving my 280sl Merc. Ahhh yes dreaming is such a beautiful past time.
for me, i love the JLC, but prefer the Santos over the tank
And that's the exact reason why the Santos was excluded 😉 We'd all be clamouring for it from Cartier. Such an excellent watch... I'm constantly going back to look at it...
Santos is a confused watch. It's not sure whether it is a dress watch or sports watch and ultimately it fails at both.
Terrific review
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the clip Phillip 🥃
I bought a medium small hands Reverso Monoface this past September and I love it. I think my decision would have been a lot harder if the Tank Solarbeat actually came out this past September too. I’ve been told that due to Covid, Cartier is having a lot of challenges releasing their Solarbeat line to all authorized dealers. Either way, my Reverso fills that slot in terms of white face Classic design in my collection.
I’m hoping to eventually add the blue dial duoface variant in my collection, then maybe a JLC Master Control calendar so I can completely close on what really has caught my eye in the current JLC line.
Love it Karlo and congratulations! I've been saying this a lot (my ideal choice) A Reverso in SS and a Tank in precious metal. And speaking of Master Control Calendars! I'm busy throwing something together about their new 2020 collection they brought out (I thought they were brilliant especially the Memovox) 🥃
@@ID-Guy Ohh nice. Looking forward to it
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From a purely horological point of view, the Reverso is more signifant imo just because JLC is without a doubt the best watch manufacturer in the world. However, the Tank is more than a watch, it is a cultural icon, an item that transcends its actual purpose and just becomes art. You would not lose regardless of the choice, but for me personally nothing beats the elegance of a manual wind Tank Louis in yellow gold.
Thanks for the consistent great content. Your hard work is not in vain, as your channel is among the rare few that focuses on the form and function of the watch over its price appreciation and/or trade in value. A breath of fresh air honestly.
Fascinating as always. For a long time, I would have jumped at the JLC. A model that's aways been on my Radar. The design origin of the Tank is appealing. A few months ago I tried on the Santos for the first time. And I was smitten. I'd been ignorant until that time about its origin. I liked it from afar. I have a passion for space and aviation watches, so I don't know why I'd never known about it. I guess that is the joy about this hobby. Learning all the time. I would happily sport any of them on my wrist.
Reverso Tribute for me, simple and pure art deco.
Excellent vid as always!
Cheers and best wishes for 2022!
Well said! You are so eloquent in your descriptions of both watches. Bravo!
The answer for me is to plan on buying both a Cartier tank and a Reverso. They are two different dogs and I will have both. There’s just something about square watches that has always captured my interest. Great video!
Great review! Couldn't choose, got the Duoface and the Tank Solo (I preferred the flatter bezel).
Both of them speaks to me…
I love the Reverso (Medium Classic) and Tank (Basculante).
Really considering picking up a tank for my dress watch.
Wow what a choice between these two! I think I would definitely choose the reverso just because of it’s versatility and durability plus as you said, you’re actually getting two watches for the price of one! The model with the moon phase is simply stunning. Thanks for such a brilliant topic of thought and discussion. Well done!
Reverso for me, but I respect the choice of a Tank. I appreciate your spending time talking about what we now call "dress watches."
I’ve been very fortunate to handle nearly all modern cartier models and reversos and find the standard models extremely stale. Some vintage cartiers are so exciting.
I bought the 1948 Tribute reverso as a flip but fell in love. Never expected to own a reverso, especially the large model but it is really special
I wouldn‘t answer one or the other, but a Reverso AND a Tank. The Reverso Duoface to me offers a great value for the money, as you can get 2 different dials. There is so much so chose from when JLC began to offer a second dial or a flip side with the movement visible. Not to forget the 60th… anniversaries watches. And so on…
Regarding the Tank, I find the Francaise so elegant and sophisticated. It picks up design cues from the tanks, but has a bracelet and a crown that is not to big. It is a great everyday watch, although I wished that it would have featured an in house movement. I love the Americaine as well, but not as an everyday watch.
There is quite a variety on affordable Reverso and Tank watches on the market with a decent quality as well.
Happy new year and stay safe and healthy.
Thanks for yet another great episode. A few years ago, but also last year, this question came up for me. I pick JLC now already twice but Cartier is still on the wishlist. Don’t think you can go wrong with either watch. JLC wins out for me as it is just that little bit more special. I can highly recommend getting the JLC first.
Within now and 3 years i will add a Tank to my collection, just as soon as i figure out which one it should be (incl. the material).
Watchmaking-wise, JLC is on another level from Cartier, imo. If I want jewelery for my wife, I'll buy Cartier. If I want a timepiece, I'll buy Jaeger - LeCoultre. There's a reason that Queen Elizabeth's watch worn to her coronation was a Cartier bracelet with a LeCoultre movement.
Having them both in my collection, it totally depends on your lifestyle and clothing style. People like Reverso more is more watch geek, engineering oriented, interested in movement, and rather casual clothing style so they are okay with Arabic numerals on the face. I like classical, traditional lifestyle, and Roman numeral is def more classic and traditional touch. So even though Reverso's reversing funciton and movement and company history is all cool, it's less classic design than cartier tank, and thus i like cartier tank more. Reverso is just a watch people's watch to whom watch is their "thing" in their life, whereas Cartier tank is watch for non-watch people, such as JFK, Frank Sinatra, Andy Warhole, Princess Diana, and many others to whom watch is not their "thing"
Well said
I'm a classic taste person too, but I would pick the reverso everytime, it is still a classic and I find it even more elegant in its more symmetrical design, also as a classic menswear enthusiast, I like to wear a white dial during the day and a dark dial at night, and having a reverso is perfect.
The reverso doesn't give me the idea of a casual clothing style at all, and it doesn't only exist in Arabic numerals...
Having tried on both I can tell you that the Reverso is far superior. Looks is subjective but the Reverso feels like a far better on the wrist. Its also one of the most iconic watches of all time.
LeCoultre made movements for Cartier during the early 20th century, which is sort of the inverse of your thought experiment. This collaboration, which Edmond Jaeger brokered, led to the formation of the company known as Jaeger-LeCoultre. Cartier and JLC are two extraordinary companies with intertwined histories in watchmaking, and today both are Richemont brands. You cannot go wrong with either Le Tank or a Reverso. You may end up owning both!
Fantastic speech. Congratulations, outstanding.
I like both watches. I‘ll now have a close look to the tank since i already have the Grand Reverso Duoface.
Incredible! Theres something about owning a precious metal watch in one of these categories. If it was me, Tank in Gold and a Reverso in Stainless. Makes for such a great 1-2 punch ;) Thanks for taking the time to watch the clip, sir!
I got the JLC Reverso London Edition but I am still chasing the Cartier Tank Americaine in Platinum (with only 12 and 6 indications). Thanks for this great video about these great watches !
CARTIER. A timeless timepiece. Plus, women will instantly recognise and admire it; whereas you'd have to explain and demonstrate the JLC to them…
The Reverso Squadra made an honest man of me. My eyes haven't wandered to another watch since picking it up.
Loved sharing your Squadra on WSW. I wanted to discuss it...but it rides that "too much of a square" look - same as the Santos ;) Hope you manage to get months and months of it on your wrist this year Rob! 🥃
@@ID-Guy Cheers, mate! Happy New Year to you and yours!
@@ID-Guy Though I did catch one cheeky square-cased Reverso that snuck its way into your video towards the end. 😏 The angled facets are a dead giveaway.
Not my cup of tea. But if I had to choose, I would take the JLC. It is more Art Deco.
Wooo!
Great call Gel. There's no right or wrong answer with these. They're both too cool...
I used to only recognize Reverso
but when age goes up.. starting to appreciate simple design which is Tank
If I think about a Reverso, I think about a Reverso - a wonderful timepiece, that stood true to itself, to become the icon that it nowadays is. - The Tank however, feels different: Born out of fascination, changed in dimensions and shape with emotions of each era and its stories, it just has something to it, that makes it feel special - no matter which Tank I am thinking about.
The Tank is really worth taking a closer look upon, because it certainly is way more than just one watch. Throughout its history it continued to amaze in so many different forms and colors, over and over again, growing from a contemporary symbol of freedom to a timeless companion of all the different societies that thrived throughout the Tank's existence.
It is almost like it rediscovered itself with every new iteration of its own, whereas the Reverso had its future predetermined by its own being. In a way, it feels like a generational gap between both model families, like one could see within parents and their children, just that here, the roles between the younger and the older ones are changed.
Great right? Excellent point about the Story and Narrative. Personally, I feel there's more intimacy and less "purpose" to the tank. So many of our watches today are purpose-built. I've been fortunate to experience some very rare Tanks in precious metals in the past and they just feel different. Very inviting and dynamic (really love the Surrealist term for them) Loved this and thank you for sharing IMX 🥃
This video is great. I am planning on buying a JLC Reverso classic Duoface or a Cartier Tank Must X this spring. It is a hard decision and I have not decided yet. The Tank Must XL is much less expensive then the Reverso. The form and the overall feel of the tank is better on my 8.1" wrist. Lower and a little bit wider on the wrist. The Tank is only 9mm high and that is great. The Reverso makes my heart beat faster as a watch geek but the shape and form of this size Large is not as good as the Tank on my wrist. It is also a bit sleeker and higher on the wrist. The Reverso is much more expensive and that makes the Tank Must XL a real value for money and a watch that has it all for me. That dial of the Must XL is beautiful. Both are icons and suitable for business casual and dress up occasions. Both watches are great with a polo shirt and jeans. Difficult! 🙂
That Reverso with a Cartier dial at 12:58 is actually really gorgeous!!
Excellent presentation . Was always a reverso man but I’m warming to tank. You look much younger than I thought. Must be the authoritative voice.
For me, it's the Reverso 9 out of 10 times
Agree - the Americaine is the one Cartier tank I would really consider but cartiers always feel a bit like jewellery to me, I think because growing up they were only worn by the girlfriends/wives of the men I looked up to (criminals 🤦🏻♂️😄) who all wore Rolexes.
JLC always just felt like a cut above as a brand.
I prefer JLC as a brand overall, but I prefer the Cartier in this case. I've always found the case aesthetics of the JLC to be unappealing - although i like the reverso aspect.
I have a steel Reverso, and I’m waiting for a rose gold Tank Americaine. In my view they are equally magnificent, but the JLC is the better, must have at least one, timepiece. Love your work, thanks, and much improved since you revealed yourself!
Indian brand Titan watch company also has made some rectangular beauties which cannot be ignored
I've always loved the Tag Monaco, even if the brand has fallen out of favour.
Reverso, without question. I'm not worried about Cartier appearing on the scene 10 years earlier.
Love the Tank/Reverso hybrid at 12:57. I’ve never been a fan of the jewel Cartier puts on the crown (I forget the name), but that Cintree with Arabic numerals really caught my eye.
Both outstanding choices….the Reverso may be too dressy for me…I love the Cartier Santos which is more in alignment with life style…I have seen some editions of the Santos with Arabic numerals which I love…but I think those are in precious metals…..and therefore too expensive for me….I also love the interchangeable quick release straps on the Santos….excellent vid!
I pulled the trigger on a tribute duo ultra thin - white dial (no signage) and black dial (signage) - so versatile. I would recommend to anyone - I have the black JLC band, but bought x2 suede bands - olive and grey for Casual
I am lucky enough to have a few Rolex’s, but as the video underscores - I get more compliments on the JLC from those ‘in the know’.
I considered both watches, even going to a boutique just to try them on, then I saw the Hamilton Boulton Quartz. It has better curves, is relatively thin, and just hugs the wrist perfectly.
Both are beautiful. If I will pick one, it will be Cartier.
Excellent video once again! For me, just from the watch making point of view, the JLC wins out. Cartier is magnificent of course and I might add on of those to the collection, but the JLC would be first.
As much as I love both watches, batman always wears a JLC reverso to signify his 2 identities. Well done mate.
Wait, you have a second identity?? Don't share this with people! Must mean you have some cash to burn... so you're well-off...interesting, starting to connect the dots ;)
@@ID-Guy Always loved the reverso. ;). But by no means am I well off . Having lots of money would be nice so I could buy all the watches I love to my hearts content.
Fantastic, ordered the book. I would love a manual
I am on a hunt for that LE Cintree in yellow gold..
Those Cintree's... I've been fortunate to handle a few vintage examples before (also before the world went crazy for them) That 100 Year Anniversary in YG... can it get any better? What a masterpiece... Keep hunting! 🥃
The JLC pronunciation at 00:53 was chefs kiss🤌
A steel case Américaine is imo the perfect everyday luxury timepiece. A steel case Reverso is quiet luxury to accompany a premium suit.
If we are talking gold cases the question is not so easy to answer.
Reverso hands down and I actually own one. An absolute bargain when purchased used.
Excellent piece of advice here. They are great second hand (I've seen so, so many tempting deals) ;)
@@ID-Guy I got 278.8.56 for about 2500GBP before Brexit in brand new condition but without box and papers. Hard to argue the value though.
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Get the Tank.. If you already have a Reverso. Reverso is the ultimate rectangle in my eyes, but there are probably other rectangle watches I would get before the Tank, despite its iconic status.
Which do you choose? Easy. JLC Reverso Duo Face with one dial white and one dial blue. Love the fact that you started the new year with a discussion of classic dressy watches from two of the best. I was missing this type of content. Thanks.
Wonderful analysis and opinion! The mashup was gorgeous (Cartier dial + Reverso case 👏🏻)
being an engineer i much prefer the reverso and find it way cooler... suppose it's not a surprise tho :)
And I should be thinking the same... I adore the mechanics so much and the "ruggedness" - maybe my heart is more emotionally attached to the Cartier? Compromise is getting the Tank Basculante ;) Thanks for this Mihael!
Idk but Cartier just looks nicer imo. That vertical tank 😍😍
In a previous video of yours in which you talked about the types of boxes and I told you that for me square watches were the most stylistic and beautiful for me, this great video of yours just reconfirm it.
Awesome video, thanks.
Heart, lifestyle and wrist size - JLC, wallet and the practicality of quartz - Cartier Must.
I have always loved the tank shape.
Classical and timeless.
When ever someone asks me to choose, I say have one of each.😱
Or get a Tissot banana or a longines dolce vita jajajajajaaj. In all seriousness amazing video as always, and an amazing way to spend three wise men day. Personally a reverso duoface ala Kevin O’Leary, with a classic dial on one side and a contemporary on the other would definitely do the trick for me, although a more sturdy basculante is very tempting also
Man, those Tissot Banana's are awesome?! I wanted to add some honourable mentions (longines was on the list too) BUT the video was already 15.5 minutes long 😆 Great choices Manny and a Happy New Year to you, brother 🥃
I made it easy and got both :) Absolutely love them both.
Great discussion! I've never been a fan of the Tank - apart from the odd Cintree. I think the Santos is the far better Cartier design, more honest, less whimsical (a common fault in French design). On the flip side, the Reverso is bonafide! A true great and so much more than its party trick. The Reverso is a more sophisticated, versatile design - in the right configuration it rivals the Explorer for elegant purpose. The Gadroon/lug proportion alone are worth an essay! My only gripe with JLC is their drift from the Reverso's sporting roots. Surely a waterproof variant that uses the reverse for a hidden purpose (a la Duoface - what about a moon phase, a calendar, chrono?), but maintains the lines of the original (unlike the Grand Sport or Squadra) would be a welcome addition to the line. Otherwise, these days the 'flip' is cool, but obsolete - a solution looking for a problem. Some of the complication can look contrived. Amazing watchmaking, but better suited to the Master or Duometre lines.
I think a sportier version is warranted myself given the supposed history .
Brilliantly said James. This sparked a thought. Before "Dive watches" were a thing, divers in brass suits would travel down with watches like the Omega Marine. Imagine JLC did make a proper waterproof Reverso built for modern standards and brought that Sport image back? Also a big fan of the Master lines (going to put some thought pieces together about the Master Control series etc) Great points around this James and thank you again 🥃
What the "hidden purpose" could be for a waterproof version should be quite obvious! But without the possibility of a movable bezel, a dive version would have to use a chronograph-style solution. So...a mono-pusher on the case, with the reverse featuring a just big orange minute hand full of lume, a small-seconds to show that it's moving, and all the necessary lume plots. Would Bond still be wearing an Omega if this was available?
I wonder if they could integrate the pusher into the face of the reverse. You know, I expect they could!
@@shaunpatrick8345 That would be immense! Hell, I'd settle for a display case back. And yes, I totally believe the Reverso is the spiritual Bond watch. I mean, it flippin' reverses! In fairness to JLC, I suspect there are some engineering difficulties to making the Reverso seriously waterproof, hence why both the Squadra and Grand Sport were quite bulky. But frankly, JLC should step up to the challenge instead of churning out sub- (not Sub) spec Polaris knock-offs!
I think the Reverso is spectacular but it has had so many permutations.over the years that I always feel that I will research them for a long time, purchase one and the next day I will see I had never seen before and want even more!
It’s a strong match. Cartier Tank is essential, Reverso art deco. Imho two models are top: Cartier Tank Francaise auto and Reverso Classic small manual
Impressive Presentation.
Oris rectangular is the dark horse
Brilliant commentary...I love the brands alike
So difficult to have a definitive answer about which we enjoy more. They're different but have an equal standing at the same time...Think it's going to be one that bugs me forever ;) Thanks for this Craig!
@@ID-Guy that's why I say. Why not buy one of each
JLC Reverso Duo Face for me,
The Cartier is Wrangler jeans, the JLC Levi 501’s
Reverso. No doubt. Ok, maybe some doubt. Both watches are amazing.
Difficult, right? Ideally just own both and save ourselves the headache. Reverso in Steel, Cartier in gold and call it a day 😆
@@ID-Guy My mind says yes. My bank account says 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really enjoyed the video, and seeing the Cartier dial design on the JLC case. I like your renderings of the possible configurations 🙂
I personally sought after a reverso for more than a decade, and finally picked one up last year. I chose a Duoface because, as you mentioned, it’s two watches in one! I adore the mechanism and Art Deco design. The Tank’s are nice too, but my heart is clearly in camp JLC.
For me it's a landslide victory for JLC. Happy New year
Happy New Year Michael! No arguing with your choice there 😉
Personally, this is not even a hard choice, it’s the JLC for me. No question though the Cartier is a legend and elegant in its own right.
I respect both brand but I buy JLC Reverso due to the fact that you can have more complication in Reverso, recently JLC treated the world to the Hubris Mechanica the pinnacle of haute horology. I have so much appreciation for JLC as an owner of both brands but the Reverso Art Deco is not just a watch but an art piece. JLC, for the price of a Rolex with the craftsmanship of of Patek Philippe.
Fun fact, there's actually a cartier reverso as there was patek philippe reverso and Hamilton/Gruen reverso back in the day.