I think the "gray" Jor-el is "spirit" Jor-el (when Superman is actually talking to his father), and the colorized ones are the "recorded tapes", so to speak.
@@kamdan2011 There's only so far you can take it without it going screwy. Without the separate elements to work with, the effect on the background is always a consideration. Very hard to rotoscope a partly transparent head. Luckily he's pretty inconsistent in his look from scene to scene in the first film so there is some room for interpretation. As long as it's not just regular Brando head without any effect then it's fine.
@@darthkurland I think you do a disservice to the input of Lester. I also don't think Donner would want any credit for work by, as he put it, "the other guy". I'm also not just doing effects, I'm re-editing the work of Baird, Smith and Thau.
Didn't we finally learn, in the slightly extended Donner Cut inadvertently released to streaming services a few years ago, that she "disappears" when trying to find a toilet in the Fortress? Implied that she falls down/in somewhere...
@@pobbard Quite the unceremonious exit for poor Ms Tessmacher. I'd rather leave it to the viewer to fill in the blanks than to have her killed off screen by super toilet flush.
@@pobbard Can't see how death by toilet could've been Donner's original intention because we know they have another entire scene outside the fortress as they're leaving in the TV cuts. Maybe that was just supposed to be a pratfall.
The simple solution Wilhelm Scream to solve her disappearance is to reuse the Jail break from Donner's first filmed version. Where Miss Tessmacher was dating the Prison Warden, and have her bust Lex out of jail again twice. The scene also restores Otis again as well to boot. Hell i'd feature and restore it as a mid-credit sequence so it comes after the whole movie finished anyways! Thus problem of Miss Tessmacher is solved, she didn't die. She was merely in hiding as Lex was planning to be servant/business partner of Zod's etc's.
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For a supposed advanced AI created by a “brilliant” scientist from another planet, was Jor-el’s program not able to recognise an intruder?!
She saved superman's life at the end of the first film. I always thought it would have been cool if supes had chosen Eve over Lois lane.
Any chance at making Jor-El look more solarized like he does in the footage from Superman: The Movie? I’m still torn over there being archived Elders.
I think the "gray" Jor-el is "spirit" Jor-el (when Superman is actually talking to his father), and the colorized ones are the "recorded tapes", so to speak.
I'm pretty happy with how it is.
Gotcha. Was curious if any attempt was made to make him look the way he does at 3:29, which is the look Thau should have strived for.
@@kamdan2011 There's only so far you can take it without it going screwy. Without the separate elements to work with, the effect on the background is always a consideration. Very hard to rotoscope a partly transparent head. Luckily he's pretty inconsistent in his look from scene to scene in the first film so there is some room for interpretation. As long as it's not just regular Brando head without any effect then it's fine.
faneditedbybooshman, makes sense. It is annoying that Thau didn’t study the previous works to keep consistently but you gotta work with what you have.
Footage Directed by Richard Donner.
Cinematographer: Geoffrey Unsworth, BSC
Production Design: John Barry
Optical VFX Supervisor: Roy Field
Matte Effects: Les Bowie
Look FX Supervisor: Max Ivins
Additional VFX: Look Effects, Booshman
©️1980, 2006, 2020 Warner Bros. Pictures
Director, Additional Footage: Richard Lester
@@darthkurland I think you do a disservice to the input of Lester. I also don't think Donner would want any credit for work by, as he put it, "the other guy". I'm also not just doing effects, I'm re-editing the work of Baird, Smith and Thau.
Any chance of Eve saying something like "I've had enough, I'm leaving you!" or something like that because she just vanishes after this point.
I doubt it.
Didn't we finally learn, in the slightly extended Donner Cut inadvertently released to streaming services a few years ago, that she "disappears" when trying to find a toilet in the Fortress? Implied that she falls down/in somewhere...
@@pobbard Quite the unceremonious exit for poor Ms Tessmacher. I'd rather leave it to the viewer to fill in the blanks than to have her killed off screen by super toilet flush.
@@pobbard Can't see how death by toilet could've been Donner's original intention because we know they have another entire scene outside the fortress as they're leaving in the TV cuts. Maybe that was just supposed to be a pratfall.
The simple solution
Wilhelm Scream to solve her disappearance is to reuse the Jail break from Donner's first filmed version. Where Miss Tessmacher was dating the Prison Warden, and have her bust Lex out of jail again twice. The scene also restores Otis again as well to boot. Hell i'd feature and restore it as a mid-credit sequence so it comes after the whole movie finished anyways! Thus problem of Miss Tessmacher is solved, she didn't die. She was merely in hiding as Lex was planning to be servant/business partner of Zod's etc's.
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