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  • @mackenzieblair8135
    @mackenzieblair8135 Год назад +56

    Being able to afford that many GW Krieg models is another story altogether.

    • @sircrim8694
      @sircrim8694 Год назад +4

      yeah lol, I'll go proxy in your shoes !

    • @gregburkholder8724
      @gregburkholder8724 Год назад +19

      Elegoo saturn 2 8k go brrrrrrrrr

    • @simonswitzer7278
      @simonswitzer7278 Год назад +2

      Just buy a regular commissar model and find a spare gas mask head somewhere. Easy fix.

    • @drabantcorper4727
      @drabantcorper4727 Год назад

      Well i kitbash mine XD

    • @adddad9779
      @adddad9779 Год назад +5

      3d printer says brrrrrr.....

  • @MontuPlays
    @MontuPlays Год назад +15

    Alright, you've sold me on Krieg. Now I'll just have to find some models, as my old Cadians will feel wrong as Krieg

    • @MordianGlory
      @MordianGlory  Год назад +2

      Love your videos man! And yes baby!!!!!!!!!

    • @muricadizzy4011
      @muricadizzy4011 Год назад

      I play My cadians and catchcan as krieg. But I didn't know this

  • @Git_Kraken
    @Git_Kraken Год назад +31

    Marshals are the entire reason I started collecting Krieg.

  • @FunnyTaco143
    @FunnyTaco143 Год назад +16

    I ran one in a full kreig squad with a Psyker and with us agreeing about the medpack working once. That team held an objective against a Grey Knight strike squad w/ a Champion attached and then later a terminator squad because I kept getting lucky on both types of feel no pains and then I could fall back and let my Russ and my Basilisk fire on position. They did fall eventually but they held so well that they were my only unit to fully die.

  • @chrisdowning3153
    @chrisdowning3153 Год назад +5

    First time using these guys today. 3 squads of 20 kreig with one of these marshalls in each squad. Amazing how many times my brothers space marines couldn't kill anything from the squad! MIND BLOWN!

  • @rodneygaul2227
    @rodneygaul2227 Год назад +3

    Reporting for Duty , Sir
    Death Korp Marshall for Death Korps = Ms Creed for Cadians = Straken for Catachen
    Just different special abilities that specialize with their Regiment

  • @birkkarlsson3989
    @birkkarlsson3989 Год назад +3

    I have used 3 marshal in about 6 games so far in combination and without primaries psykers. Marshals are S+++ amazing in 20 blob Kreig squads. The look on aponents faces when 10 thousand sons flamers just bounce of guardsmen is beautiful.

  • @dominicl5862
    @dominicl5862 Год назад +8

    I like the Death Korp Marshall and I don't think he should be changed; however, I think he's over tuned compared to other options in the Guard. I'm just waiting for other Detachment rules that support super mobile tank guard (Tallarn style) and maybe close-q melee (Catachan style). If your preferred guard army style is Krieg with huge amounts of "out of line of sight" this edition is HOT right now.
    Don't get me wrong I'm still gonna run Straken + Catachans + Platoon Squad.

  • @gamingborger
    @gamingborger Год назад +9

    i figured out the marshal, platoon command squad, 20 kriegsman combo for a couple weeks now. realized for a while anyone taking this is definitely in it for the long haul and hard to deal with if not deleted in one turn.

    • @denisloebner4882
      @denisloebner4882 Год назад +4

      imo one of the main advantages of the platoon squad merged with a frontline troops blob is the 6+ fnp. so with the marshal that would be a nonbo. id rather throw a platoon squad far into the back with extra order enhancement and a mortar to give take aim to 2 medusas/earthshaker carriages per turn.

    • @whitemiasma5288
      @whitemiasma5288 Год назад +1

      Where are you guys finding the points cost to this unit?

    • @gamingborger
      @gamingborger Год назад

      @@whitemiasma5288 oh. theres free download to all the points for units on the warhammer community. the PDF you're looking for is called munitorum field manual.

  • @darkfleet8092
    @darkfleet8092 Год назад +17

    The Krieg marines made me the man I am today.

  • @Iocanthos
    @Iocanthos Год назад +11

    But wait! It gets better! If your krieg boys have a vox on them, when you use the cult of sacrifice ability, you get 1CP on top of that on a 4+!

  • @mattcoleman3146
    @mattcoleman3146 Год назад +3

    Had gabriel seth, 10 assault marines and sanguinary priest bounce off 20 man krieg and marshal! The combo works sooo good! And they d3 came back in my turn it was amazing!

    • @keyanklupacs6333
      @keyanklupacs6333 Год назад

      And we still don't know if they're returning 1d3 per 10 models in the squad now either.

  • @Astralwolf23
    @Astralwolf23 Год назад +2

    "Turned me into a one man A frame." Had me in stitches mate xD

  • @mortenchristiansen5884
    @mortenchristiansen5884 Год назад +1

    Have you noticed btw about the Death Korps of Krieg troopers. They no longer have the Medpack Ability. in the army builder tool straight from GW. it is still not updated on the Erata. but it might come later on.

  • @panch0vanilla416
    @panch0vanilla416 Год назад +1

    This Strat does work went against a custodes and I had 1 DOK squad with the Psyker and Marshal they didn’t die until turn 3 and I managed to kill 3 spear guards in the process

  • @Gromeish
    @Gromeish Год назад

    4up ranged invul and 5up fnp is a must. I had ranged eldar and knight shooting bounce off that combo. It also allows you to move move move. On many tables you can turn 1 advance and rush objectives and gum up the board.

  • @adamcarey6093
    @adamcarey6093 Год назад

    ran mine up the middle to the center objective last game. ir was surrounded in ruins. they took. they held. and nobody could dislodge them.

  • @pawe6199
    @pawe6199 10 месяцев назад +1

    Where is Death Corps Marshal in index? I downloaded Index pdf and I cannot find this datasheet

  • @operator9858
    @operator9858 Год назад +2

    when you made the platoon vid i couldnt understand why you werent talking about the marsh instead lol

  • @cesarsotillo784
    @cesarsotillo784 Год назад

    I think the main problem the guard has in 10th edition it's that it is an extremely pillowfisted army. You need a Hellhound+a Leman Russ Exterminator+Fields of fire just to lower the armor of 1 unit enough for the rest of your army to finish it off. I face mostly space marines and mechanized armies and can't find an army list that allows me to both play the mission and also kill some of my opponent's pieces.
    Anything that has a 2+ save (most heavy infantry and vehicles) is pretty much unkilleable for most of a 2000pts Astra Militarum army list.

  • @aspookyeel
    @aspookyeel Год назад +1

    Quick question, because I've been a little confused by this. But what Krieg units have specific (official GW rules, as in, they're included in the Index Card set) rules? Because I've also heard a lot of Krieg is just cosmetic flavour.

    • @uulmshar
      @uulmshar 11 месяцев назад +1

      There is a specific Death Korps of Krieg unit in the dataslate; it costs 65 points to the normal infantry unit of 60 points.

  • @BloodBuffalo
    @BloodBuffalo Год назад

    So I just realized I have one of these. I thought my guy was just a kreig style commissar my friend gave me. I didn't know he was one of these.

  • @ka1juhunt3r
    @ka1juhunt3r Год назад +1

    only downside to having him make the kriegers so tanky is that they will never get off there ability to get +1 to hit often and almost never wound, which is the strangest thing to hear from guard infantry but i guess it balances out in the points of the marshall and making it harder to give krieg bonuses.

    • @TheWiggleTuff
      @TheWiggleTuff Год назад +2

      That's definitely not true. They're tanky but not invincible. You're definitely losing a few models each shooting phase

  • @Knightstruth
    @Knightstruth Год назад

    Cool! I have one od these. Guess I should get more....

  • @LB-yg2br
    @LB-yg2br Год назад

    so do you run 2x plasma gunners or 1x plasma and 1x vox caster in your 20 man blobs?

  • @JakeAtkins-c2d
    @JakeAtkins-c2d Год назад +1

    One thing I didn't hear mentioned: The Marshall is even more of an auto include now that artillery guard have been nuked from orbit and infantry guard are looking like the most viable competitive strategy.

    • @keyanklupacs6333
      @keyanklupacs6333 Год назад +2

      Nuked from orbit is a bit dramatic. Guard Indirect is actually more oppressive now if you take carriages. Everything else got punished more. What was the counter to carriages? Other indirect which other armies are now being discouraged from running

    • @timsanders33
      @timsanders33 Год назад +1

      I know carriages win out on paper, the gap between them and basilisks and manticore should have been shortened not lengthened. Mortars and now better than a wyvern. The poor FOB's! Both the rapiers and 2 heavy weapons lascannon squads look better than a heavy Las, it didn't even have indirect fire!

    • @JakeAtkins-c2d
      @JakeAtkins-c2d Год назад

      @@keyanklupacs6333 that's kind of the point I was trying to make. They hit everything indiscriminately. We may still be competitive with carriages, time will tell. But infantry guard are looking really good.

  • @SubSonicEctomorph
    @SubSonicEctomorph 4 месяца назад

    I’m coming back after not playing for a few editions. I’m trying to wait until the rumoured Krieg book, before moving passed 1k points. Godspeed our book, GW!

  • @heribertocastro6652
    @heribertocastro6652 4 месяца назад

    Question: Isn't the marshal and psyker two separate characters? Can a krieg squad have two characters? If so, where can i find this in the core rulebook if applicable? Thanks!!!

  • @EnesKarakus-qm5el
    @EnesKarakus-qm5el 2 месяца назад

    The title is clickbait, but the marshal is easy "A" tier. He gives a very strong fnp of 5+ with the medic very strong and noticeable smaller than a platoon squad what passivly makes it also more durable like hiding or against "blast". AND THIS VIDEO GIVES SURELY VERY GOOD TIPPS AND COMBOS!👍 You should really do a video for the Enginseer who is S-Tier in my opinion.

  • @JoshMC2000
    @JoshMC2000 Год назад

    Hum Its a Power weapon. I think Station Forge Yarrick models are goanna get repainted as this to go with my Kregi infantry

  • @K-Man-k5n
    @K-Man-k5n 11 месяцев назад +1

    Looking for a good Marshal Karis Venner stl.

  • @AndrBR0
    @AndrBR0 Год назад

    Cadian Castellan, Commissar, and named ones have 5++

  • @anderslundtoft2315
    @anderslundtoft2315 Год назад +1

    How many characters are we allowed to put into 1 unit of infantery?

    • @uulmshar
      @uulmshar 11 месяцев назад +1

      1 character per unit, afaik

  • @simonswitzer7278
    @simonswitzer7278 Год назад

    x4 20 Man Death Korps Squads with all the trimmings. 3 Marshals and Lord Solar attached in said squads, Scout Sentinels and x3 each Manticores and Basilisk and and Engineer.
    You're opponent's will call you anti-fun but I call it. "Pew pew pew"😅😂

  • @range8533
    @range8533 Год назад

    silly question, how do you include tw leaders in the squad for the invun and the fnp?

  • @Tony_SaltBlock
    @Tony_SaltBlock Год назад

    Question. Where is the data sheet for this model located? Also how much points is it? Thanks.

  • @crimsonwolf7303
    @crimsonwolf7303 9 месяцев назад

    Where can you pick some of them up? I'm having a hard time finding them online.

    • @michalkowalski240
      @michalkowalski240 7 месяцев назад

      Use Death Korps Commisar, this model goes as DKOK Marshal in most tournaments.

  • @Rusty_Rich
    @Rusty_Rich Год назад

    Where is this index card found? It's not in the Guard index? EDIT: Never mind, it's in the "Imperial Armour Datasheets" section; Imperial Armour: Astra Militarum Part 1

  • @DeltaHouseStudios
    @DeltaHouseStudios Год назад

    Almost done painting my new Marshal 😏

  • @elisecunliffe1123
    @elisecunliffe1123 Год назад

    A FNP on a krieg blob is why you're not allowed medpacks anymore.

  • @grahamcooke7489
    @grahamcooke7489 9 месяцев назад

    Does anyone know how the insane bravery works in relation to this after the balance data slate? Because it's now once per game...

  • @tonitoni9984
    @tonitoni9984 Год назад

    What do you guys think about my first 2000pts army list?
    Lord Solar Leontus + Platoon Command Squad + 20 Death Korps of Krieg
    Ursula Creed + Cadian Command Squad + 20 Cadian Shock Troops
    2x (20 Death Korps of Krieg + Death Korps Marshal + Primaris Psyker)
    3x Basilisk
    3x Manticore
    3x (1 Scout Sentinels)
    Which comes to 1995 pts

    • @markhohenbrink5230
      @markhohenbrink5230 Год назад

      Idk if this is with the new points, but it seems solid. Also, earth shaker carrage batteries imo are better than basilisks especially when standard officers can order them eventhough they are BS 5+

  • @markhohenbrink5230
    @markhohenbrink5230 Год назад +1

    1 thing you didnt talk about is how the Marshal also has a 25mm base compared to the base Castellans 28.5mm. Additionally, the Cadian Command squad has 28.5mm bases but the Platoon Command has 25mm as well. Is it a major advantage, probably not but it shaves a few mm off the large units footprint.

  • @Indigo33-11
    @Indigo33-11 Год назад

    It’s auto include cos unfortunately 10th is gonna be one army build for every faction. Soon very soon people will work out the optimal list and all you will see is identical lists everywhere. That’s 10th edition

  • @orinwing5442
    @orinwing5442 Год назад

    Mordian I’m lost bro, I can’t find anywhere on the warhammer app where it says death korps have a) the ability to take a med pack b) the ability to bring back models. It was in the leaks but not on the app :(

    • @andrepereira8823
      @andrepereira8823 Год назад +1

      It's not on the app cause GW messed up and didn't include a "x models can take" clause which means it doesn't show up on the app. Have a look at the indexes online.

    • @orinwing5442
      @orinwing5442 Год назад +1

      @@andrepereira8823 thank you 🙏🏻

  • @WarCommissar1
    @WarCommissar1 Год назад

    add a command squad or psyker as backup?

  • @UncleBashface1
    @UncleBashface1 Год назад +2

    FOR KRIEG!

  • @alexandrlidin2323
    @alexandrlidin2323 Год назад

    Okay, is it me is the platoon command squad just flat out better? Sure, the FNP from the medic is only a 6+, and there's no insane bravery shenanigans, but it seems to me the +1 OC from the banner, the added wounds and bodies and the potential punch from either a HWT or a special really skew the scales here (the master-vox exists too I guess). And that's not to mention the attaches, namely the master of artillery, who I feel is an actual auto-include if you're going for the artillery meta. Am I in the wrong here? Hadn't played any games yet so pure theory-craft here, so I'd be honored to be corrected by ye longbeards out there.

  • @benjaminkingsley3902
    @benjaminkingsley3902 Год назад

    180 guard? With ridiculous survivability? Perfectly balanced as all things should be 👍

  • @deryckeisner2889
    @deryckeisner2889 7 месяцев назад

    How many points is a marshal

  • @backinthelapse
    @backinthelapse Год назад

    I started my dk army years ago whr they were trash and now I have a feeling they are gonna be everywhere

  • @longhunter5935
    @longhunter5935 Год назад

    Is that card in the card box?!? I don’t see it in mine.

  • @funbro99
    @funbro99 5 месяцев назад

    The better commissar

  • @migraine8746
    @migraine8746 Год назад +7

    Three thumbs up if you have been infiltrated by the genestealer cult 😂 👍👍👍 Nice video keep em coming.

  • @leea4469
    @leea4469 Год назад +1

    well. glad i have an unpainted death korps marshall lying around. I have a game in an hour so lets get painting.

  • @necalovescake
    @necalovescake Год назад

  • @Khobai
    @Khobai Год назад +1

    if you survive long enough to get promoted to a senior officer in death korps youre doing it wrong

  • @blackvalordragoon
    @blackvalordragoon Год назад

    best unit 2nd to lord solar you mean

    • @ColonelHoganStalag13
      @ColonelHoganStalag13 Год назад +2

      The big downside to the Lord Solar is the model is hideous looking. I am not interested in Age of Sigmar crap leading my Krieg around. Maybe I'll convert a Krieg model into a Lord Solar but I refuse to use that GW model.

    • @uwesca6263
      @uwesca6263 Год назад

      ​@@ColonelHoganStalag13there is on the warhammer community page a pretty great conversation of the lord solar to a krieg marshall.
      Overall i find it a bit sad that we got normal cavalarie instead of dkok deathriders.

  • @edwardthormann1928
    @edwardthormann1928 Год назад

    GW employee watching this vid be like, Yep time to nerf

  • @keyne444
    @keyne444 Год назад +1

    Then I'm doing it WRONG. Sorry for not being FILTHY RICH!!! ;C;

    • @ColonelHoganStalag13
      @ColonelHoganStalag13 Год назад

      @@corvidae9653 Also, you can model one from a Krieg sergeant and put a cape on him with greenstuff. He will have a special feel for you if you converted a model.

  • @dannydementia2542
    @dannydementia2542 Год назад

    Im going to try them with 20man inf sqauds with double heavy bolters until gw clarifies med packs for kreig sqauds.

  • @Valkyrie_3d
    @Valkyrie_3d Год назад +1

    Wtf the marine apothecary doesn't even have a FNP anymore and it was a 6! In 9th

  • @mikes2321
    @mikes2321 Год назад

    Yes Like 1

  • @froghugger41
    @froghugger41 Год назад +2

    Mate you've gotta stop posting this or GW will nerf them like they did our arty 😂

    • @whitemiasma5288
      @whitemiasma5288 Год назад

      Where are you finding this nerf to the artillery? What is it?

    • @froghugger41
      @froghugger41 Год назад

      @@whitemiasma5288 reflexive points hike

  • @SargeJTQ
    @SargeJTQ Год назад

    Would be nice if you would stop listing Krieg as broken and overpowered when there's so many stronger armies. Krieg have been terrible for a long time, not to mention the undeserved stigma on FW models and armies. So the fact they are finally performing at decent levels now is something to be encouraged. Click bait ttles like these make GW and other people want to nerf them out the gate.
    -A renegade and Krieg player since Vraks.

  • @wyatttyson7737
    @wyatttyson7737 Год назад

    Unfortunately you can't attach both a Marshall and a Psyker on to the same unit. You can only double up on Characters if one of those characters has the Command Squad keyword. In other words, you can have a Marshall and a Command Squad, or a Psyker and Command Squad, but not a Marshall and Psyker.

    • @adamcarey6093
      @adamcarey6093 Год назад +2

      You, sir, are incorrect

    • @Iocanthos
      @Iocanthos Год назад +5

      No, you are limited to one command squad being attached per unit, that is the only limitation:" *This unit can have up to two Leader units attached to it,
      provided no more than one of those units is a Command
      Squad unit.* If it does, and this Bodyguard unit is destroyed,
      the Leader units attached to it become separate units, with
      their original Starting Strengths"

    • @wyatttyson7737
      @wyatttyson7737 Год назад +4

      @@Iocanthos Huh. Either I'm dyslexic or a bit retarded. Probably both. I thought it said "this unit can have up to two Leader units attached to it, provided one is a Command Squad."
      Time to rework some lists.

    • @keyanklupacs6333
      @keyanklupacs6333 Год назад +2

      Ya you can goober.

    • @whitemiasma5288
      @whitemiasma5288 Год назад +1

      @@keyanklupacs6333 Are any of you men using the Baneblade in any of these lists? I was using one with four sponsons the last few months of 9th, and it was blowing the ever-living daylights out of and grinding over everything. Haven't played a 10th game yet.

  • @fox21231
    @fox21231 Год назад +2

    Krieg troops need to go up to 70 points for 10 and the marshal needs to go up to 70 points as well. They are just so much better than the other infantry options

    • @keyanklupacs6333
      @keyanklupacs6333 Год назад +2

      Naw.

    • @Krieg-Sergeant-Woody
      @Krieg-Sergeant-Woody Год назад

      Who do you think you are? Death Guard? Get tf outta here with your heresy

    • @whitemiasma5288
      @whitemiasma5288 Год назад +1

      Pipe down!

    • @fox21231
      @fox21231 Год назад

      @@keyanklupacs6333 If not than the other infantry choices need to go down in points. Cadians and Catachans are a joke compared to krieg.

  • @jayteegamble
    @jayteegamble Год назад

    Everything Krieg is really broken. All other infantry is just way worse.

    • @operator9858
      @operator9858 Год назад

      the new cadians then?

    • @keyanklupacs6333
      @keyanklupacs6333 Год назад

      Nah, regular infantry platoons are super legit with heavy weapon options.

  • @TheMarcosvolta
    @TheMarcosvolta Год назад

    *happy gas mask noises*