I (isfj) have been with my boyfriend (enfp) for about four years now. We are very strong, even getting through two years of long distance with little problems, but your video definitely hit on all the issues and fights we have had. We have just learned how to work around them and we value open communication more than anything else in our relationship to make sure these issues don’t arise even if it’s a little uncomfortable in the moment.
I’m an isfj, my wife is an ENFP. You are correct in a lot of ways. We are best friends but are so different with romance that it can get largely neglected. Thankfully that hasn’t been too big of a problem, but it certainly pops up
6:59: I am an enfp often joining in on my wife's work Christmas party. I am definitely trying to help her in impressing her boss cause it's EFFICIENT. If I can contribute to her moving up the ladder faster it means our life gets easier faster, and that's a win in my book. Efficiency trumps authenticity here in my book.
Lot of my best friends over the years have been ISFJ - As an ENFP, sometimes get frustrated with their lack of Ne that’s when I’d get bored of them and need other people in my life
So, My current partner is an ENTP and I'm an ISFJ. We actually go well together. The only problem I'm trying to adjust myself into is his insensitivity and debatativeness.
Hello! Can you provide the source for the chart of the personality types? I can’t find that kind of chart anywhere :( I want to learn more about the valued/contervalued cognitive functions of the types :) thank you!
Huh. I'm a male INTJ with a female ENFP best friend who is asking me advice about a new romantic relationship with an ISFJ guy... so I'm already annoyed with her. That said, I was saying, "Wait! What? You're an ENFP and you're into this ISFJ dude and you're frustrated that he doesn't get you? What's wrong with you?!?" I had to watch this video all the way through a few times to get what the dynamic is. Thank you! I'd send her the link to watch it herself, but you and I both know she will never get around to it. I wish I could just send the link to him without making things weird. :D
ENFP's really don't know what they want, or actually in fact *need* . It's the type I've often seen going again and again with another ENFP and every time they're like high when they're in love for a period of time while they're super-sure they have found THE ONE, until the rush wears of, and they find another one and again it's THE ONE...etc etc.... But yeah they can do that with every type, but when they're both high on love and novelty for a while, I that creates an even bigger high/rush thingy
I am a ENFP and I do find that my ability to get really emotionally close to people and my natural curiosity about things makes others develop strong feelings for me easily which makes me feel bad because I don’t know what my feelings are until i try something out for a little bit and hate having to hurt someone that i pulled into my orbit
What is the sentence 13.40? " I' am telling you, your rel..." Did not understand it even after 4 times listening (sorry!) =) Im with an isfj man... well probably.. he was not really interested in doing the test properly. We have a good energy, treat each other well, are very actively in our sparetime... the only thing is the lack of topics to talk.. well or just that he does not like to talk to much or listen to deep talk shit.. what I do love... I hope we can approach and find the middle.
I’m an ENFP with ISFJ man, we’ve been together for 3 years and it got quiet serious. We have the same issue that sometimes I push him for deep convos and he’s just not so interested. But I try to find ways to engage him. For example by taking a personal approach to deep topics and asking deep personal questions or playing intellectual games (for example naming two random objects and challenging each other to name what those have in common..sometimes it sparks a deep convo). Although ofc we’re not a perfect match and his rigidness / lack of deep meaning curiosity sometimes annoy me, I love him deeply and appreciate his sensitive and caring nature that ENTPs would lack. I do have some ENTPs friends to debate intellectual topics with and satisfied with that.
Your assertion here is wrong. Only one of those is an even decent match. ISTP is a nightmare for ISFJ despite the Fe, because their Se makes their Ti non-deliberative. They use it as a weapon to beat up the ISFJ. And INFP and ESFP both have Fi high in the stack, leading to inevitable conflict with the Fe tool using ISFJ.
Talking with Famous People, my assertion is accurate. Take an empirical approach, observe couples in stable relationships, and you'll find out. In fact, of the four pairings above, ENTP is the weakest match for ISFJ, because ENTP has Ti and Te, where ISFJ has Fe and Fi (model G socionics function stack), and sharing at least one judging function can be very helpful. ENTP's best matches are: ENFJ, ESTJ, INTJ, ISFJ.
Talking with Famous People, thanks man, post that video, I truly enjoy your channel. Take your time with model G, it'll surprise you. The rest of socionics, not so much. But model G is pure gold. ENTP in model G: Ne Ti Te Si Which describes how ENTPs aren't really good at harmonizing nor they're good at manipulation (both sides of Fe). ENTPs debate both logically (Ti) AND factualy (Te), are into changing their environment (Te) for example by building stuff, are good as lawyers (Ne Te). I find model G stack accurate for all types. Dario Nardi shows ENxJ to have the weakest Se of all for example, which is aligned with model G, yet MBTI claims tertiary Se for these types. MBTI stack is 75% right, it's wrong about the tertiary.
I agree with Host Eric that you are wrong about this. Why? I'm an INFP surrounded by ISFJs and I really regret it. I noticed that relations of benefits are easily formed but don't last. They are smooth-sailing at the beginning but tend to drift apart at the end. With ISFJs,I get into fights with them at the end,because of that Fe and Fi (just like what Eric said). Even though their Fi is indeed strong,they do not value or give a fuck about it really. The judging functions are the most problematic indeed,between the ISFJ and INFP. That's probably where there is friction and where all the fights come along. From my experience,I'm sure ENTPs get along with ISFJs a hell lot better than with INFPs. The INFP and ISFJ are just not compatible all in all. Both types are too passive with each other. No matter what,it just doesn't work out in the end. ESFP with ISFJ are u kidding me? Don't even think about it. The only time they'll ever see each other is probably in a group. It's possible for the ESFP to be with the ISTJ,but the ISFJ,(it'll never happen.) The ENTP is guaranteed the most compatible from what I observed about ISFJs I know in real life. They need someone who value the same functions and are more outgoing and fun to bring the fun part of them out. (I know this because I've had ISFJ friends but the friendships are rather short-lived.) Not sure about an ISTP with an ISFJ but I can only imagine that they'll only be acquaintances,nothing more. From what I've experienced ISFJs click with extroverts with high Ne,definitely not someone with Ne PoLR. Basically,not an ideal match. Relations of benefits are one of the last things you would wanna call an ideal match really. They are really what you would call "relations of benefit". I've been in many relations of benefit,that's how I know. Mostly being the benefactor,but I've been the beneficiary too.
I (isfj) have been with my boyfriend (enfp) for about four years now. We are very strong, even getting through two years of long distance with little problems, but your video definitely hit on all the issues and fights we have had.
We have just learned how to work around them and we value open communication more than anything else in our relationship to make sure these issues don’t arise even if it’s a little uncomfortable in the moment.
I think the ENFP + ISFJ dynamic works better on a friendship level rather than a romantic one, at least from what I have witnessed.
I’m an isfj, my wife is an ENFP. You are correct in a lot of ways. We are best friends but are so different with romance that it can get largely neglected. Thankfully that hasn’t been too big of a problem, but it certainly pops up
6:59: I am an enfp often joining in on my wife's work Christmas party. I am definitely trying to help her in impressing her boss cause it's EFFICIENT. If I can contribute to her moving up the ladder faster it means our life gets easier faster, and that's a win in my book.
Efficiency trumps authenticity here in my book.
Man when you got out the flame thrower to light your cigarette. So ENFP of you 😆
He’s not ENFP, he’s ENTP
Lot of my best friends over the years have been ISFJ - As an ENFP, sometimes get frustrated with their lack of Ne that’s when I’d get bored of them and need other people in my life
So, My current partner is an ENTP and I'm an ISFJ. We actually go well together. The only problem I'm trying to adjust myself into is his insensitivity and debatativeness.
Hello! Can you provide the source for the chart of the personality types? I can’t find that kind of chart anywhere :( I want to learn more about the valued/contervalued cognitive functions of the types :) thank you!
Huh. I'm a male INTJ with a female ENFP best friend who is asking me advice about a new romantic relationship with an ISFJ guy... so I'm already annoyed with her. That said, I was saying, "Wait! What? You're an ENFP and you're into this ISFJ dude and you're frustrated that he doesn't get you? What's wrong with you?!?" I had to watch this video all the way through a few times to get what the dynamic is. Thank you! I'd send her the link to watch it herself, but you and I both know she will never get around to it. I wish I could just send the link to him without making things weird. :D
She’s blessed to have you in her life! ENFP and INTJ are so EFFORTLESS and NATURAL TOGETHER!! I miss my old INTJ bestie :)
ohh shit... makes so much sense. I am ENFP and my mum is ISFJ.
Enfp go with literally everyone like everyone
Btw im intp
ENFP's really don't know what they want, or actually in fact *need* . It's the type I've often seen going again and again with another ENFP and every time they're like high when they're in love for a period of time while they're super-sure they have found THE ONE, until the rush wears of, and they find another one and again it's THE ONE...etc etc.... But yeah they can do that with every type, but when they're both high on love and novelty for a while, I that creates an even bigger high/rush thingy
I am a ENFP and I do find that my ability to get really emotionally close to people and my natural curiosity about things makes others develop strong feelings for me easily which makes me feel bad because I don’t know what my feelings are until i try something out for a little bit and hate having to hurt someone that i pulled into my orbit
I hate ENFP!
-ISFJ
Isfj and enfp relationships functiong on a VERY superficial level..
What is the sentence 13.40? " I' am telling you, your rel..." Did not understand it even after 4 times listening (sorry!) =)
Im with an isfj man... well probably.. he was not really interested in doing the test properly. We have a good energy, treat each other well, are very actively in our sparetime... the only thing is the lack of topics to talk.. well or just that he does not like to talk to much or listen to deep talk shit.. what I do love... I hope we can approach and find the middle.
I’m an ENFP with ISFJ man, we’ve been together for 3 years and it got quiet serious. We have the same issue that sometimes I push him for deep convos and he’s just not so interested. But I try to find ways to engage him. For example by taking a personal approach to deep topics and asking deep personal questions or playing intellectual games (for example naming two random objects and challenging each other to name what those have in common..sometimes it sparks a deep convo). Although ofc we’re not a perfect match and his rigidness / lack of deep meaning curiosity sometimes annoy me, I love him deeply and appreciate his sensitive and caring nature that ENTPs would lack. I do have some ENTPs friends to debate intellectual topics with and satisfied with that.
Difficult to digest
Can you do a video on the intp infp relationship, friendships or romantic relationships
Esfp better than enfp. Isfp is probably the best.
I´m an ENTJ and relate to your relationship with Se and Fi
Maybe that's because in socionics,both of u have the same strengths in functions,even though the functions u both value are different.
Does Jordan Peterson understand the cognitive functions?
I dunno. He should really get his ass over here to talk to me, regardless. He needs my input. No one is meaningfully challenging him about anything.
Then get it down, boy! Nobody owes you anything, but you own viewers a good show :D
Contact the guy. He is an open door, but closed book.
11:53 bosss
ISFJ's ideal matches: INFP, ISTP, ESFP, ENTP.
Your assertion here is wrong. Only one of those is an even decent match. ISTP is a nightmare for ISFJ despite the Fe, because their Se makes their Ti non-deliberative. They use it as a weapon to beat up the ISFJ. And INFP and ESFP both have Fi high in the stack, leading to inevitable conflict with the Fe tool using ISFJ.
Talking with Famous People, my assertion is accurate. Take an empirical approach, observe couples in stable relationships, and you'll find out. In fact, of the four pairings above, ENTP is the weakest match for ISFJ, because ENTP has Ti and Te, where ISFJ has Fe and Fi (model G socionics function stack), and sharing at least one judging function can be very helpful.
ENTP's best matches are: ENFJ, ESTJ, INTJ, ISFJ.
OK, well thanks for explaining the source of your wrongness. Model G is nonsense. Socionics blocks are nonsense. I'll make a video right now.
Talking with Famous People, thanks man, post that video, I truly enjoy your channel. Take your time with model G, it'll surprise you. The rest of socionics, not so much. But model G is pure gold.
ENTP in model G: Ne Ti Te Si
Which describes how ENTPs aren't really good at harmonizing nor they're good at manipulation (both sides of Fe). ENTPs debate both logically (Ti) AND factualy (Te), are into changing their environment (Te) for example by building stuff, are good as lawyers (Ne Te). I find model G stack accurate for all types. Dario Nardi shows ENxJ to have the weakest Se of all for example, which is aligned with model G, yet MBTI claims tertiary Se for these types. MBTI stack is 75% right, it's wrong about the tertiary.
I agree with Host Eric that you are wrong about this. Why? I'm an INFP surrounded by ISFJs and I really regret it. I noticed that relations of benefits are easily formed but don't last. They are smooth-sailing at the beginning but tend to drift apart at the end. With ISFJs,I get into fights with them at the end,because of that Fe and Fi (just like what Eric said). Even though their Fi is indeed strong,they do not value or give a fuck about it really. The judging functions are the most problematic indeed,between the ISFJ and INFP. That's probably where there is friction and where all the fights come along. From my experience,I'm sure ENTPs get along with ISFJs a hell lot better than with INFPs. The INFP and ISFJ are just not compatible all in all. Both types are too passive with each other. No matter what,it just doesn't work out in the end. ESFP with ISFJ are u kidding me? Don't even think about it. The only time they'll ever see each other is probably in a group. It's possible for the ESFP to be with the ISTJ,but the ISFJ,(it'll never happen.) The ENTP is guaranteed the most compatible from what I observed about ISFJs I know in real life. They need someone who value the same functions and are more outgoing and fun to bring the fun part of them out. (I know this because I've had ISFJ friends but the friendships are rather short-lived.) Not sure about an ISTP with an ISFJ but I can only imagine that they'll only be acquaintances,nothing more. From what I've experienced ISFJs click with extroverts with high Ne,definitely not someone with Ne PoLR. Basically,not an ideal match. Relations of benefits are one of the last things you would wanna call an ideal match really. They are really what you would call "relations of benefit". I've been in many relations of benefit,that's how I know. Mostly being the benefactor,but I've been the beneficiary too.