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Thanks for pulling up the map. I think the plan with Rook's Rest is to cut off the Black's army by land. Dragonstone is like an island so their only path from Dragonstone without Rooks Rest/ the coast looks like through Driftmark and the Gullet which on the map it's all surrounded by water. Not sure what the plan would be for the Blacks if the Greens take Rooks Rest.
@@Stephie_L You're welcome. Yeah, they mentioned it in the episode that they are going to cut off their access to the mainland harbor with Rook's Rest. Greens make a huge advancement.
@@JodysCorner Yeah I'm team Black but Rhaenyra has not shown much smarts (yet) when it comes to tactics. The Greens seem to be better strategists right now. The Blacks have more dragons but they don't seem to have any land advantage. Daemon seems all over the place too...hope we get over that soon lol
@@Stephie_L You need a win more than ever rn. They will do something in the next 2 episodes to even the odds.
*Full disclosure, these dragons are all Drakes (two legs not four)*
"it's a light-skinned dragon" funniest shit i've heard all week🤣🤣🤣🤣
A "flying whale" too 😭
Lmfaoo I died at that part
a drake dragon 😂
On God😂😂😂😂😂😂💯
😂
Yall are so overdramatic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.....HotD is not losing fans......her death is part of the story so now Rhaenyra understands that Team Green does not GAF!
I feel like you dont knkw thare are millions on fans who never read the book and only watch the show.
@@JodysCornerand those millions of fans still enjoyed the episode.
@@Leaf-tf5oo im one of em. pay attention.
@@Leaf-tf5oo So not being happy with bad direction and story for one character's actions means you hate the entire episode? You're confused my guy
@@codychase1203 ☠️when thats literally how it went in the books what other change would you have wanted it to be lol?
So hear me out, Jodes. When Rhaenys decided to attack Vhagar and strap herself in, she was proclaiming "I am going to end this now or die trying." If she defeats Aemond in single combat, the war is won. She had a battle-seasoned dragon, Aegon just went down, and it was a do or die situation. If she flees, the war continues. She also still needed to defend the keep and Rhaenyra's banner lord. I think there were a lot of factors that led to her decision to stay and fight. I think that she believed she could have won. That's how boss Rhaenys was. She tried to fell the largest living dragon. No guts, no glory. Because we were not in her head, we'll never know, but blood drunk on the back of a dragon, would you not have the balls to take on the world? You forget these are Targaryens. The ego and sheer cohones of this house is a magnificent thing to behold. We've seen it time and time again.
Honestly, I couldn't imagine a more fitting end. She went out in a blaze of glory and embodied the words of their house. "Fire and blood."
@@bigredcrazyk 10000%
Totally agree. She knew what she was doing.
@bigredcrazyk Nail on the head, also realistically let's do an actual tally. Rhaenyra (Team Black) is losing REAL BAD, to be completely honest they are getting their asses whopped. They haven't really had a legitimate "win" yet.
Rhaenyra got her throne usurped, lost her daughter, lost her son, lost multiple houses who have sided with the Greens and possibly more due to Daemon going behind her back & doing what he did etc. The Greens have also already taken more battleground victories so far, whilst Daemon is fighting his own demons at Harrenhal which is soon to be met with the green armies they have accumulated, possibly Aemond & Vhagar etc. So Rhaenys NEEDED to try to make this count for something so that all is not lost. If they continue to lose the way they have been, the battle is won before the war even started and Rhaenyra should just forfeit and bend the knee at this rate.
She has the most seasoned dragon, is also the eldest rider & knows that if she doesn't try her best (at the potential expense of her life) than this is it for her, her grandkids, niece and honestly just HONOR in general. To think in Season 1 she gave Rhaenyra so much shit and yet ended up being her BIGGEST champion and the amount of respect she ended up having for Rhaenyra is what makes her sacrifice a sad but beautiful one. She gave her a reason to make that worth something, to believe that her niece and her cause was worth fighting for.
Also in a battle sense, if she didn't try to take out Vhagar, what is stopping Aemond from going straight to Dragonstone (which is right next to rooks red) and finishing everyone up? Now with Aegon being nearly dead, the army's being in disarray and Vhagar being injured and not at full capacity, that's most likely to not happen now even though Rhaenys is dead. So yes, she may not have killed Vhagar but she finally was able to level the playing field a bit, and her death is about to put the battery in the backs of everyone on Team Black because they been wayyyyyyy too passive. Now it's like alright, yall need to be on daemon demon time now enough is enough.
Also! Rhaenys I think feels guilt knowing she ultimately could of ended the war before it started when she was in the dragon pit and didn't, so i feel like this was her way of making that right in a way.
How dare they send her alone knowing she would be up against Vhagar.💔
Your lying, this was characteristic for her. She was tasked to go protect the castle in Rook Rest and she was determined to do that even though the odds wasn’t in her favor, which she knew. She was never a coward and ran away from a battle. There has been no story changes, what are y'all even talking about. You would have a point if she didn’t die like this in the source material.
Youre a liar. The books was way different.
@@JodysCornerNo it wasn’t. It was was exactly the same…
I agree. Rhaenys is a headstrong, determined person and has never shown signs of running away from anything. She went into this battle knowing she would win or lose. This seems very in character of Rhaenys to me. Rhaenys is not a runner even though I wish she did flee.
It's not about her dying. I've read the books, she fought a true 2v1 in the books and fought valiantly. Here, she got sneaked by a dragon that's bigger than the castle itself. The fight was legendary but the execution was poor. I'm a die hard fan, but i can't dismiss this.
Aegon really put his life on the line to Help Cole and his brother tries to kill him in return
To help Cole?🤣 he went out there drunk and ruined the plan cause his ego was hurt.
@@Ronrukhaving 2 dragons against one was a smart move which is what they did in the books
@@Alex-bz8ljno it wasn’t. It was dumb, got himself fucked up for no reason. The plan was for Aemond to come snatch her ass up quick and easy.
LOL. Yeah, to help Cole. Not to find his own selfish, drunk, rebellious glory.
@@RonrukVhagar is not Invincible she’s old and slow this is why in the books they Agreed to fight Meleeys together
Daemon said we need 2 dragons to beat vahgar but she didnt listen
Nobody listens to daemon
@@CertainlyCynical if niggas listened to Daemon, we wouldn't have a story 😂
@@CertainlyCynical well, they gonna listen to him now because part two is coming up. this war is not over! Balea wants revenge, Daemon wants revenge, RHEYNERA TRULY WANTS REVENGE, CORLYS WANTS REVENGE! they will all come after the greens!
If they listened to Daemon from the start instead of Rhaenyra trying to play the peace maker every single time. This war would’ve been over. It’s okay tho, Caraxes will have Vhagar bbq very soon
@@mattgibney4085 That's a fact😂😂😂
Everyone plotting and fighting a civil war. Meanwhile, Daemon is randomly in a haunted house movie.
😂😂😂😂
High AF too
That wood witch going medieval on Daemon's behind. 🤣 I hope she don't stop either.
I feel bad for aegon - man lost his son and tried to help only to get burnt to a crisp by his own brother
And sunfyre is the only thing that ever actually loved him…
Then he should have treated him better and not acted like they were still little kids. Honestly....how much more was he supposed to take?? Aegon fucked around and found out. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
i felt only alittle bad for aegon cuz he shouldve never made fun of aemond. he got what was coming to him
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 Cole definitly loves Aegon. Not as much as Aemond, but still acted like a father figure towards him. Even if Aegon didn't feel the same way.
@@cfinley81 murdering your own brother is not justified over bullying. embarrassing the king himself in the small council with high valyrian was enough. maybe even slap or punch him. but burning him with a dragon was uncalled for and unjustified, specially if it's your own brother and someone in your own team with a dragon in the midst of a civil war but hey, Aemond does what Aemond wants.
She died in the book she gonna die in the show
Roflmao
Right!!! Wtf they talking about lmao
Exactly you can tell they haven't read the books 😂
Fact Jody's Conner doesn't know S Lol
This isn’t a fairytale, it’s supposed to be tragic. Thats GoT. People make mistakes, pride takes over, rage etc. it’s what makes the show what it is and so different than others.
She knew she was going to die. She didn’t need to kill Vhagar even she just needed to wound her really badly to up their chances.
She was literally on her way back to Dragonstone after her first and 2nd attacks, how would she die exactly fleeding from battle? She only died because her stupid arse went back make it make sense.
@@akashicrecords9672 she was trying to kill Vhagar or Damon to end the war. Her job wasn’t done. She knew she may have a chance and it was worth it in her mind if she succeeded but died.
@@evegriffin9771 Yea it was quite obvious from the sequence what she was trying to do that's not what I'm arguing against. She only died because she wanted to sacrifice herself for the cause, not just because of what the person above said. My point is is she could have flet the scene and live is all I am saying.
@@akashicrecords9672 she could’ve totally. I’m just saying her choice made sense. To her in the moment.
@@evegriffin9771 My point is against what the OP said. Reahnys only knew she would die because she wanted to finish the job it wasn't set in stone she could fly back and live. To say she knew she was going to die is just stupid. No Sherlock (OP) she died because she went back.
This wasn't uncharacteristic of Rhaenys, she went there to fight for her queen and she did exactly that. Meleys and caraxes are the only battle tested dragons that team black has at the moment. Once she saw vhagar I think she knew this was a one way trip, so she did as much damage as she could.
I think Rhaenys also fought Vhagar and went back to fight her/possibly cripple her because she believed that Vhagar posed a deadly threat to her husband and her grand-daughters (especially Baela, who rode a juvenile a fraction of Vhagar's size).
Pretty obvious why she turned back . What daemon told her has been on her mind ever since “what if I just burned them when I had the chance , none of this would’ve happened” she was atoning for that miss opportunity. & the show didn’t lose any viewers lol . Most people like way more than 2 ppl , yall just don’t like anyone . They didn’t do it for shock value , it’s literally IN THE BOOK BEAT FOR BEAT 😂
F the book. Y'all make me sick. I hate the book readers. Y'all ruined this show for us.
@@JodysCorner the whole reason these shows exist is because of the books and George martin the writer of the books is one of the producers,they won't change the main events
To be fair, the game of thrones show also locked in a lot of the key events. It's mentioned twice. The only way they can change things is to announce this is some type of "elsewords" situation like in comicbooks.
@@JodysCorner lol. The show is based on the book you sherlock😂 go cry to G.R.R.Martin telling him how he's such a bad writer because Jody knows better. lmao
@@JodysCorneryeah but book readers do not decide how the show goes and we didn't write the episodes lol
Even so you have a right to not like the outcome 😊
Just to clarify they understand that it’s implied that the guy that saved Corilis (the black targaryian) is possibly Corilis’s son. She wasn’t looking at him because she was attracked to him, she was looking at how much he looks like corilis. Something like that.
Lol you need to work on your spelling.
Lol you need to work on your spelling.
@@manvirshergill1739 you mean for the spelling of game of thrones characters?
@@D0nt3v1u5 what else?
@@manvirshergill1739 they have fake names that are spelled weird, if you get who I’m talking about, that’s all that matters.
FYI in the books, Rhaenys/Meleys was holding it DOWN 1 v 2 at the same damn time. She almost killed Sunfyre and was holding off Vhagar while they tried to jump her; she was the only dragon that was specifically mentioned to have a chance at 1 vs 1ing Vhagar in the right circumstance. The book also made it clear that she was a G and refused to escape because she was willing to risk her life to end the war right now and then at Rook's Rest, and she -almost- did. Just as she was -almost- queen; her life had a lot of -almost- moments and its super poetic and bittersweet. But she went out in fire and blood; long live the Queen That Should Have Been
You trippin dawg. I don’t care what the book says. Based on what I saw with my two eyes rhaenys came off illogical and foolish. Her demeanor gave me I’m depressed please end me vibes. It would have made sense if she was gritting her teeth going in furiously.
@@jjohnson218she was the only logical choice to go. If daemon was there he would’ve gone instead probably but he’s busy playing Luigi’s mansion and is out of the picture…for now lol
If you think for a second Aemond would just allow Rhaenys and Melys to flee the battle, you are so mistaken. That's primetime opportunity for Aemond; picking them off one by one.
You know this follows books right? So they didn’t just make this up haha she legit dies fighting in the books.
Y'all all sound the same.
@@JodysCorner I like your channel and enjoy your reactions. I’m just saying that you’re wanting something to drastically change when this is legit already written. Deviating slightly from the books is fine but they won’t with something major like Rhaenys dying. It sucks and nobody wants it to happen but it’s apart of the story.
The problem was the directing and editing, not the story. They should have made it so that she got caught off guard, while being in the middle of the battle. But her almost retreating two times and turning back, while the odds are mostly against her, just seems irrational and stupid.
@@prettyboyg1278who said she was a genius?
It is not stupid. She had the chance to end the war but didn't take, she sees an opportunity now@@prettyboyg1278
I'll tell you why she stuck around, because of that remark that Daemon made to her of how she could have avoided this war had she stood her ground and burnt down Aegon and house green before she made her big escape in season one. Guilt made her stay for this fight, making sure that she didn't leave anything undone.
@@e.l.4860 you think it would be obvious to these casuals! 😂🤦🏽♂️
And another reason would be that if word got out that the blacks were ready to start a war, but not ready to send their dragons to defend their own supporters, especially one as close as rooks rest, then they would lose soooo much support
She wanted to end the war. Take out Aegon, take out Vhagar. Period. Like an absolute warrior. Loved her and the way they looked at each other before, it’s like they agreed to do it at any cost. I also think she blames herself for not ending it when she could. She knew she had to try.
I think it's a combination of two things. One is daemons words to her in the first episode. The second is after watching what aemond does to aegon, she realises he's not a warrior with the biggest dragon, he's a lunatic with the biggest dragon. If she tries to flee to the safety of dragonstone he's crazy enough to follow her back and attack. She felt she needed to stop him there or risk him coming after her and the people she loves.
Right because Dragonstone is literally across from Rooksrest. Also in that moment, she felt that she had the chance to either end it all or do the most damage. She knew it was a 50/50 chance and she took it.
It’s crazy that Aegon ..this child who LITERALLY ran from the throne is now being frowned upon like he ever got the proper guidance…they set him up for failure ..everyone knew who he was before they FORCED him into that chair don’t be mad now 🤷🏽♀️
His father failed them, didn’t put effort into raising them
@@ToeKnife166 agreed..I feel his mom and dad both failed him even Otto ..all they ever did was scold him
@@ToeKnife166he raised him to be a pampered prince not a king. Rhaenyra was his heir not Aegon
By the way, the showrunner came out last night and denied the directors confirmation that Rhaena’s dragon eggs are Daenerys’. He said he wants to keep it vague what happens to the eggs.
lol i thought the showrunners and directors were supposed to be on the same page
@@cursedsolo3112😂😂😂 the writing is very bad and showrunner doesn’t want to stick to the source material. The only thing I really care about though is that Rhaena hatches her pink dragon Morning. I assume the other eggs get stolen from her and they end up in Pentos
38:12 this guys saying the show going to lose real fans because of the death, he ain't a real fan 😂😂 guy literally says he fell asleep during last weeks episode and forgot what happened 🤡
I agree saddler be speaking that blasphemy
To my Team Black family, we not running away we fighting to the death.
If they sent Vermithor AND Meleys, Vhagar would be past tense.
no one's there to ride vermithor
No Vermithor - Blacks only have 5 dragons at this point (Caraxes, Meleys, Moondancer, Syrax, Vermax) while Greens have 4 (Vhagar, Dreamfyre, Sunfyre, Tessarion)
funny thing is if Rheanerya had any spies they would have told her Vhagar is gone and not protecting the city she could have taken Syrax Jace on Vermax and Baela on Moondancer and took Kings Landing right then and there
They still have scorpions, that's still a risk. Rhaenyra should've let them take Rooks Rest and make the calculation that Vahgar would likely be there since Dragonstone is so close. She needed to think from the Greens perspective of what they think SHE would do (which is send a dragon). If there was an army on land via Daemon by this point he could've maybe handled Kings Landing and had another dragon on standby from Dragonstone (in case Vahgar was in Kings Landing). Team Black were not prepared at all. I know they're trying to flesh out Daemon's arc but so much time wasted in Harrenhal with those visions and still no army.
Meanwhile, Vermithor is just collecting dust. 🙄
@@notsousual2938how about you keep your spoilers to yourself
Spoiler alerttttt - This is exactly the situation that happens later on in the books. Kings Landing is left open while the dragons are off fighting. It gets conquered easily.
E-man maybe you don’t know, the song of ice & fire is a secret between kings so a lot of ppl don’t know the story which is why Alicent didn’t know what vacerys was talking about.
Lmfao 😂😂😂😂 wild ass takes
Guys you are missing the most obvious. She was there to defend the castle. Fighting the King and Vhagar was an added bonus. She didn't leave whens she could have because she needed to confirm if the ground threat to the castle was neutralized. If you notice, when she flies over the battlefield for the last time, she is looking at the ground. This is to confirm the castle is safe and the ground troops are no longer a threat. She was leaving after that but Vhagar came out of nowhere.
Then why was she looking in the sky??
Mental health matters.
@@JodysCorner Look at how low she was flying. It was to confirm no ground threat. She confirmed it, but she also received the revelation that Vhagnar was not there. She clearly saw him fall to the ground. This is hen she began looking up and flying away. She knew he was somewhere but did not know where.
@@beautifulb8755 answer my simple azz question please. Why was she looking in the sky then? Was she checking for the forecast for her flight back to Dragonstone?
@@JodysCorner The tone of your response was unwarranted. I was respectful in my response towards you. I'm new to your page and enjoyed watching your guys react for the first time so perhaps this is just your humor and I'm unfamiliar. If this is the case then my apologies misconstruing your tone.
Never-the-less since you set the tone change I will respond accordingly. A simple azz question more than often requires a yes or no response and is not based on biased azz assumptions. Your simple azz question was not simple; rather, just stupid and doesn’t warrant any more of my attention beyond this response. Nothing in that whole scene would lead anyone to believe she looked at the sky for all of a second to check the forecast to return to Dragonstone. I clearly already provided an answer for her briefly looking up. Perhaps is flew over your head. If you look up you might see it. Have a blessed mid-morning.
People are missing a big point by focusing on Alicent. The small Council including Otto were planning to put Aegon on the thrown regardless. Her stupid ass made it worse by not understanding what he was saying as he was dying. But the fact remains Aegon would have been king regardless. Lol remember Otto even suggested that Raenhera marry Aegon to which the King scoffed at. Thats how bad Otto wanted his Blood in the mix to get the throne one way or another.
Well congratulations that’s the worst reaction I’ve ever seen in my entire life.
You a lie
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Well If it was the worse you would not have wasted your time with that fake user name. But he got something out of you. You reacted
@@Therontsc woooow you have impressed me😯😯😯😂
@@user-ul5mv7wd8l If you don't like this guy's reaction why you even here?? Why take time to comment in the first place?
Rhaenys I guess tried to end the single greatest threat to Rhaenyra's campaign: Aemond and Vhagar. If she and Meleys could kill them, the true queen's campaign would be that much easier. That doesn't mean it was a good idea. Vhagar is the most battle seasoned dragon in the show and was at least twice the size of Meleys and could withstand more damage and deal more damage. Even though Rhaenys was the more experienced rider, Vhagar was the one that truly had the advantage. She died courageously...it just wasn't the right decision.
I hated losing Rhaenys. She and Corlys are the only characters i really loved in this show. But I get it. Rhaenys has a dragon rider's spirit. She had to go back. Sure, she might die, but she might've won too. She had to try. I hate that we lost this character but i love that she went out fighting.
"THE QUEEN THAT ALWAYS WAS"
Did you love it when she killed all those civilians in the dragon pit?
@@ToeKnife166 We're just here enjoying a fantasy show about a fantasy war featuring nuanced, morally grey characters, all of whom have blood on their hands. Relax bruh.
I hope they stop skipping over immediate reactions and let the characters grieve.
George did so good writing the outline of Daemon’s kids in Fire & Blood, I really hope they get more screentime. I like how he paralleled them to the Stark kids with Baela/Arya Rhaena/Sansa Aegon/Bran Viserys/Rickon and even Harwin’s son Jace with Jon
but Daemon is so different from Ned 😂😂 Rhaena’s egg is supposed to be pink I hope they don’t change that and actually give her a pink one that’s the only dragon I was looking forward to. She named the pink one Morning to juxtapose Baela’s Moondancer and I thought it was so cute
Aegon isn’t dead
That's a spoiler
Lower right corner reaction at 28:49, I felt that 😅 Rhaenys died a true Targ queen. Incredible performance.
She flew towards the castle to retreat. If you look at the map, the castle is in between the battlefield and Dragonstone. But Aemond cut her off.
CAP
@@JodysCornerGrow up, Jody
Nah the writing around Rhaenys is one of the weakest in the entire show. That entire crowning scene last season and now this. It seems like the directors felt the need to portray her in a strong female lead light, when they should make it more realistic.
Almost there. The page ripped from the book is absolutely significant. It's a page from a story about a Queen of had to flee her homeland, did what she had to do to save her people. She was a warrior Queen, and she married correctly and made the right allies. And she did save her people. It's Rhaenera and Arya's favorite story. That Queen was Dornish and hundreds of years later, Dorne is still ruled by a woman.
When Alicent gave her that page it was a reminder of what Rhaenera said. "She didn't care if her father had a son and she's no longer his favorite." And it was saying "You should run and save yourself and your people. Start over, somewhere else."
Dorne is ruled by a woman or a man, whoever is firstborn into the ruling line of the Princes/Princesses of House Martell.
@@gailf1617 thanks for correcting me. As long as women can sit the throne, it's a generally fair institution.
Flying whale 😂😂😂lmao
I died
I agree they didnt flesh out enough why Rhaenys went back. The logical decision is to flee and fight another day. From her POV Aegon is probably dead. She did her job.
They make these decisions to make things look cool but it takes all logic out of it. In the book it was a 2 on 1 that did her in, not her turning back stupidly when she was about to escape after damaging the King
She isn’t a soldier, she has been giving dumb advice to the queen and made lots of stupid decisions herself. She killed a lot of people in the dragon pit and didn’t harm the king instead 😂
She was fighting for the castle her pride wouldn't let her give up and take the L
The small council has no interest in the dead king’s wishes or last words. They crowned King Aegon because they don’t want a ruling Queen. The show misleads the viewers that Alicent could have stopped Aegon from being crowned king.
Another obvious reason is that they will lose their positions of power aswell if Rhaenyra succeeds.
also Daemon and Caraxes are the GOAT'S for a reason this episode proved it. Daemon said in episode 1 of this season he and Rhaenys could take Caraxes and Meleys to take out Aemond and Vhagar RHAENYS said no now look at her. Daemon is ALWAYS RIGHT they coulve took out Otto last season in the finale Rhaenyra said no.
daemon is right that he couldnt defeat a big dragon as vhagar by himself how is he the goat for that lol yeah kill a guy under the messenger law? that wouldnt start the war faster or anything or but put rt in a more negative light....Daemon only rule is burn them all which would make him what Otto been saying that Daemon would be a second MAEGOR.......
31:03 me screaming at my screen when vaghar pulled up but ngl rhaenys handled them real good.
The way rhaenys was moving it was obvious where it was going. I was screaming at the tv "OK GO HOME NOW, VHAEGAR IS COMING RHAENYS GET OUT OF THERE NOW, RHAENYS YOU GOT GRANDKIDS THAT NEED YOU!!!! man The writing wasnt where it was at with this one. We needed more of rhaenys.
It does not matter WHAT Viserys said! No one cares what Alicent or Rhyneara have to say. They are not ready for a woman to sit the throne. Viserys was fine with that too until he killed his wife. He also heard and believed what suited him.
Rhaenys Targaryen (to Alicent): “A true queen counts the cost to her people. And yet you toil still in service to men. Your father, your husband, your son. You desire not to be free, but to make a window in the wall of your prison. Have you never imagined yourself on the Iron Throne?”
Raenys ain’t ever lied!!! To sum it up, Alicent has no mind of her own. She toils in service to men. All we can hope for is she has SOME semblance of a character arc.
Yall critique is vlid but tbh its the shows fault. They didnt do a good job of showing how strong Rhaenys was so it looks like a suicide mission. Its not supposed to be. In the book, Aemond + Aegon fight her on purpose bc she would kill them in a 1v1. Melys is the 1 dragon that stands a chance against Vhegar in a 1v1, and Rhaenys is more battle tested than anyone not named Daemon and the show REALLY didnt show that well at all. If they did it wouldve been clear that she was going back to finish the job bc she legit could. They fumbled it fr. Rhaenys isnt stupid at all they really just did the fight bad. If they did it right Aemond wouldve likely still won but it wouldve been close. She's a soldier she cant abandon her post
THIS i can agree with!
Poor direction/writing at times.
She don’t want Ademar Alan she just knows their Corless is bastards cause they look just like he did when he was young she just pretty much told him that she knows
All this team black vs team green is starting to get cringe ngl !
Aegon is definitely alive. Rhaenys landed on her back with the dragon on top of her. He landed on its back.
A flying whale 😂 Bruh 😂
That sneak attack looks like bs on screen but if you really think about it strategically it makes sense. If dragons fight head on they can get burned so attacking from above or below is the META strat. Vheagar being REALLY good at that makes sense imo. Doesnt look good bc it looks cheap but thats how u win wars lowkey. Ppl camp when it works irl, this aint COD
Thats exactly how dragon combat works, We see Rhaenys use the same strategy against Aegon, she hit him from his blind spots.
Aye bro freak Cole, but he putting in work ngl LOLL
Criston so far is the best commander for the greens n is better than daemon as a strategist
She died in the book in the same time tv script writers can’t change that. War does not pick who is going to die first or last. She didn’t expect dragons on this battle, got ambushed and died that’s all.
She didn't die like that especially when it was a 1 vs 1 only reason vhagar got her in the books cause she was fighting Sunfyre this is 🗑️
@@pitoseavy4523😂it was still a 2v1 no? She was fighting sunfyre, then vhagar came. Yall need to cope. The books aren’t accurate. None of the maesters writing it, were there
Guys, they have a problem with how the show executed Rhaenys death bc so far how they portrayed rhaenys in the show is way different than how GRRM portrayed rhaenys in the books. Like as someone who also read the books, I can agree that It didn’t make sense for Rhaenys to go out the way she went out. In the books, she had no choice but in the show, she did so it’s more of the show direction issue so I believe they’re valid for feeling like that. I didn’t like how she went out either. I can respect it but I didn’t like it because I personally wanted more Rhaenys in the show and I feel like we didn’t get to spend more time with rhaenys.
We all know that since this show relies on the foundation of the book (which have unreliable narrators), there are going to be some tough pills to swallow such as faulty directions from the show & writers, slight deviations from the books, etc but to jump down their throats bc they feel disappointed with how the writers handled rhaenys and attempting to dismiss them & be condescending bc “yOu dO kNoW tHiS hApPeNeD iN tHe BoOkS rIgHt ..lol you guys know nothing” is the reason why many fans, especially them, can’t stand us book readers.
*Take A Knee, Boys.* We lost the character who should've been Queen the entire time.
Don't forget she was also living with the fact that she could have ended them all last season when she stood in front of them on her dragon but she decided to leave. They emphasized it in the earlier episode with Daemon reminding her. So here is her trying to finish the job no matter what
She won the battle? The dragon was still alive, so they would have lost by her just leaving. She had no intention of just leaving.
I love y’all’s reaction part of the video but once it gets to the discussion part it seems like you don’t or don’t want to understand what you just watched lol
Meleys is red in color, not black, she is called The Red Queen. Fun Fact: Meleys' rider before Rhaenys was Alyssa Targaryen, sister-wife of Prince Baelon the Brave, mother of Viserys and Daemon. Alyssa took each of her sons up flying with her for the first time when they were tiny babies, strapped to her chest, before they were a month old.
Did Jody forget that Criston Cole is one of the few knights in this era who has actually been to war? They say this in episode 2 of season 1 when Rheanyra was choosing the new king's guard. It's the reason she chose him because he has actually seen combat. Also Cole has been mentoring Aemond, teaching him how to fight. We see this in episode 8 where we see grown Aemond for the first time, training with Cole and actually besting him. Then in episode 9, while Cole and Aemond were looking for Aegon o crown him King, Aemond vents to Colde saying that he studies philosophy, history,tactics and trains with the same, furthering saying that he should be king. Then in this very episode, you have Alicent telling Aegon where are Viserys' history books are and that he doesn't understand the knowledge an wisdom they hold, further letting you know that Aemond and Cole knows what they are doing.
N that’s y I chose the greens they r competent in everything they do n have vast experience managing the realm.
Book knowledge. Show Cole is just a f boy.
@@jjosifoviccompetent in doing what?? They made aegon King but didn't teach him discipline or how to be a king. They had a good king in aemond but didn't chose him to sit on the throne. Criston cold is a good soldier & commander but is also a hypocrite oath breaker & rash af which will catch up on him in future. They aren't actually competent at all. They also plan behind their king & don't even bother to inform him. They fired their only competent hand Otto & don't listen to alicent who actually ruled for so many yrs in viserys absence. They are also the reason why realm is suffering in war. So no they aren't competent at all. Blacks atleast have empathy (Except daemon)
@@angelyuqi6709 before season 2 the greens were running the kindom for the last 6 years while rhaenyra did nothing but be a stay at home mom. The council is completely competent, they made alliances throught political startegy unlike rhaenyra who relied on peope to remember oaths and offered nothing in return. Cole is a great commander, aemond has proven quite effective in strategy and leadership. The greens have the best pr team because their perception is that they care about the people. All the people know about the greens negatively is that aegon is a drunk n he killed a bunch of rat catchers.
@@angelyuqi6709 I only chose the greens because they know how to manage a kingdom unlike Rhaenyra given she gave the Greens 6 YEARS TO RULE.
Rt for all her good heart says she will create a new order but does nothing to help herself, her children, her relationship and image with the people over the course of when she is named heir.
1. Has 3 obvious bastards
2. which weakens Rt claims n creates succession crisis
3. Supports a law that mutilates people( it’s TREASON TO TALK ABOUT MY TREASON)
4. Marries a man who was DENOUNCED as Heir which is the SOLE REASON y she was named heir in the first place.
5. Encourages her uncle publicly in FRONT OF HER FUTURE IN LAWS n help say that rumor was TRUE in episode 5.
6. Makes EVERYONE believe she killed her HUSBAND INCLUDING HER FOMER IN LAWS.
7 and 8 Marries a man who killed his FIRST WIFE AND IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE VALE WHICH IS ONR OF THE SIX KINGDOMS SHE WILL GOVERN N NEED SUPPORT IN THE UPCOMING WAR.
9. Didn’t visit her father for 6 years
10. Didn’t visit king landing for 6 years the place she will rule later.
11. Let greens RULE THE KINGDOM FOR 6 years
12. Didn’t build any alliances for 6 years on dragonstone.
13. trying to USURP THE DRIFTMART THRONE
14 and 15 last minute marriage proposals that were denied by Alicent and Rhaenys
16. Advocated for the torture of her brother in episode 7
17. Didn’t visit her father until she needed something from him a man who is loosing body parts by the minute.
18. Didnt know who her Allies were before she went to war.
19. Sleep with men knowing if they r caught they will be tortured n killed. (Criston +HARWIN)
20. Sent her sons REMINDER LETTERS to the LORDS SHE WILL NEED TO MAKE ALLIANCES
21. Offered NOTHING IN RETURN FOR THE ALLIANCES / EMPTY HANDS.
N THIS IS NOT INCLUDING THE EVENTS OF SEASON 2 OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE BLACKS LOL
Rhaenys was a Baratheon. They never run from a fight. Literally never
“Light skinned dragon” took me out 😫😭🤣
Everyone wants to be King, but Jace actually proves true kingship. Out of everyone, he has been the most successful at actually gaining alliances through diplomacy. He got the greybeards from Cregan Stark in the North, he got safety and support from Jeyne Arryn in the Vale, and now he's secured the crossing at the Twins from the Freys. He might be young and wants to fight, but he is also not so rash as to not understand the importance of diplomacy that even many adults do not seem to grasp. He would actually one day make a great king.
Great reaction guys but honestly speaking this is 1000% within Rhaenys character to not back out of a fight plus this is how she actually died in the source material (fire and blood).
🤣 he said Meleys is "BIG AND BLACK" WTF?! I guess anything for a colorist joke 😆
Yeah lol SHE is RED aka the RED QUEEN. Like WTF lol
BBC envy?
Jody you need to rewatch the battle. Castle is right at the top of the sea. Rhaenys at last Sven was leaving the battle and going towards the sea which was right after the castle, she was just cautious about Aemond that’s why she was looking down.
CAP. She was looking DOWN (for Aemond) and she was looking to the SKY (for Aemond) to finish him.
@@JodysCorner she was looking out for herself while trying to leave to the sea.
She knew if she killed Aemonds dragon the war would be over
One thing about the GOT world….never get attached to a character
Why run away from a fight that you're doing good in??? They would've called her "The Queen That Fled" until her dying day and Team Black would have 0% chance to raise an army. First its "Send The Dragons" then its "Run Away" lol fuck. Fight to the damn death dont be a coward!!!
Exactly
You would run like a mf. Stop acting hard.
@@JodysCorner 😂😂😂
@JodysCorner I really wouldn't. My pride would get me killed probably long before the battle lol
Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys toward the foe.” - Fire & Blood. Rhaenys Targaryen and her dragon Meleys not backing down and bravely facing Vhagar.
Princess Rhaenys could have escaped
Ifs he wanted to. Meleys is faster than Vhagar and Caraxes. Rhaenys chose to stay because she saw and she knew she
had the chance to injure Vhagar and
somewhat incapacitate her and Aemond to
fight in the future even at the expense of
her and Meleys life.
Not the Kdot and Drake ref😂
It is like it is in the book. The show writers did not event this out of whole-cloth
Why do yall talk so much? How can you follow what’s going on when you’re talking throughout the show?
Because it's my channel and I can. Go somewhere else who will give you what you want. Complete silence.
@@JodysCorner and that’s way your views are low. Congratulations
@@thanaaabdullah3452they are pausing when talking
Yall do know that over the castle was the way home right? When she arrived she flew over the castle
Lol. Pay attention.
Exactly!! Watch the scene. Dragonstone is across the bay and the bay is behind the castle. I didn’t get why homeboy kept asking why is she flying towards the castle. I don’t think she was trying to retreat but if she was that’s the way she would have to go is over the castle. Like you said pay attention
To me what aemond did was reckless. What if aegon had made it out of the way and why kill Sunfyre with him. He could get aegon alone and kill him and still have have Sunfyre healthy and able to fight. Aegon is useless but his dragon. That was too personal Aemond needs to remember a war is going on and even Vhagar can't do it alone.
What homie on ..? 😂 real fans are still gonna watch the show as it’s only going to get better. I loved Rhaenys but her death was set in stone. It’s literally in the book.
These foos got a map 😂😂
"he a Drake dragon"😂😂😂😂
Another likable character gone. We know the formula lol.
Rhaenys knew the moment Vhagar appeared that she was going to die. But she thought she had to do as much damage as possible against her. So she did. And Meleys seriously hurt Vhagar. She also decimated and demoralized Cole's army. What Rhaenys and Meleys have done here is incredibly important.
They didn't die in vain.
Aight ima tell you why Rheayns turned around and spun the block.
1) Black has only been taking lost after lost, from Coles campaign. They look as if they cant protect their allies. Especially if she runs away now.
2) As Aemond said. Them taking Rooks Rest cuts Dragonstone off from the rest of the crownlands, and isolates Rhaynara to Dragonstone and away from all supporters.
3) With Rooks Rest, the Greens can start seiging dragonstone, unless Corlys pulls the blockade around kings land to prevent that.
3) It was Rhaynara, her Heir Jace that committed to the plan. And Rheayns took up the task. So she was Honorbound to get the job done. Evey Dragonrider has to take a Vow to never run from a fight. No matter what. Because a dragon does not flee.
4) Even if she said fuck that honor, Vhagar would been able to attack Dragonstone, before the Blacks to gather, and monut their dragons in enough time respond to Vhagar before it burned down half of the castle.
5) Lord Stanton. The one getting pissed at everyone for not doing anything. He would of definitely switched sides hear not only has his lands and Castle been taken. But that Rheayns gave it up so easy.
We Rheayns took that task up. It was only do or die. And the crazy part is. Though he is being an ass about this. Stanton has been 100% correct. If the blacks made moves way sooner, Rheayns would of never been put in this situation to begin with. Oh well. 💚 💚
Rhaenys could not flee, even though she was smart enough to know that Vhagar would probably kill her. War was declared, her queen needed her to complete her mission, to protect Rook's Rest, to cripple or kill Vhagar. Rhaenys was a Targaryen princess, and the daughter of a Targaryen prince who was killed on a military campaign protecting the realm. She knew her duty to her queen and her family, whose lives were all endangered by Vhagar's continued survival.
Aemond had daemon having nightmares of him 💀
It seems Aemond was right in episode 2, Daemon might be afraid of him.
Yall dont think Crispy Cole is battle smart? I definitely think straegizing battle makes sense for his character. Y'all are the most critical channel subscribe to. Always a pleasure 😅
When you say "Y'all don't think Cole is smart" who do you mean exactly? Because we mentioned how he is a genius in this video. And how he is HOEING the Blacks. I'm just curious why you said that us.
@JodysCorner I thought y'all was being sarcastic about it and thought he shouldn't be tactical or smart. Because of the jokes said about him being a security guard etc. I know y'all said it but sometimes it's hard to decipher when y'all are being sarcastic. Could be because I only seen this via RUclips versus the full patreon.
We would definitely call Cole and idiot or dumb to really nail down his intelligence
Dont put this on the writers the story is what George wrote also Vermithor is still in the game. Daemon and Caraxes are still there.
BS
@@JodysCorner All you do is whine
Eve Best for Vulture Magazine on why Rhaenys didn’t command Meleys to breathe flame by saying “Dracarys” as Aegon and Aemond did:
“They’re just like boys with guns; they want to maximize the amount of carnage. And there’s something very … I don’t want to generalize, but, you know, it’s very male. Whereas she’s very specifically going for the dragon: Let’s take out the weaponry, and don’t burn everybody else randomly. There’s a gritted-teeth-ness about it, because these guys are her nephews, however appallingly badly they’ve behaved and are behaving and however dangerous they are. Aemond is responsible for Lucerys’s death. At the same time, they’re her family, too. There was a lot of reluctance and the knowledge that they’re effectively pushing the red button. The responsibility of that is so huge that it has to be a kamikaze mission, because how can one live with it? And that sort of samurai thing of when she comes back in - she could have escaped, and she turns around. To me, that’s pure whatever she is - Arthurian knight, Lancelot, samurai. It’s the noble warrior thinking, No, I’m not just going to save myself. I’m going to finish this.”
These fools even bring race into dragon's 🤦🏻♀️
It’s silly
Maelys is a female dragon. So is Vhagar.
do you know this is based on books? and the reason Rhaenys stay was because she went there to protect the castle and leaving wasn't an option
he is alive because Sunfire not landed on him like maelys and also Aegon was wearing The Conquerer's Armor which purely made of Valeryon Steel
Jody I agree with you that Alicent has no power now BUT weeks ago she did prevent Otto from sending assassin to take out Rhaenyra in season 1 episode 9. Regardless you're right it's gone too far now and she has no say.
LOVE to see four men hyping up our EVE BEST ( Rhaenys )
THE WAY I SOBBED! SHE WAS MY FAV BY FARRRRR!!!
Meilys could actually have beat Vhagar as a very war experienced dragon - and fast
She just didn’t.
But definitely with two dragons - If it was Meilys along with Caraxys they DEF could have taken down Vhaegar.
What SHOULD gave happened was a coordinated group takedown of Vhaegar right from the point Aemond killed Licerys
Eh they sent her there to help/protect an ally. She decimated the army but as long as Vhagar is up the ally/Lord Staunton is screwed, so she went back instead of abandoning the mission. They should have sent two dragons at least knowing Vhagar is on the board and they’re being ballsy enough to attack a keep right across from Dragonstone.
I can’t wait to see the state Aegon is in
Is Aegon dead or did Sunfyre protect him with his own body, turning as he fell?
These lot just want to watch a small ass battle for vibes 💀