Literally. Meleys and Rhaenys was sad, but seeing Sunfyre for the first time and then he just gets demolished because he’s probably never seen battle. And then he’s just crying the entire time. He reminded me of a little puppy
You can hate Aegon but that bond with Sunfyre is the bond that all riders want but very few actually have it’s just my luck that my two favorite dragons are Sunfyre and Dreamfyre 😭🤦♂️
Pretty sure it said somewhere that Aegon II and Sunfyre have one of the best dragonbonds in lore. Dunno where the show will go but in the book Sunfyre goes above and beyond to be with Aegon II.
@@Taulant234there was an affectionate moment between them. Sunfyre booped aegon and smiled and he laughed. Like a man and his dog. Was cute but wish we got more
Rhaenys returned because regardless of the ambush, the order from her queen and the original intention was to secure rooks rest and stop criston cole's advance. she could've easily fled on several occasions but that would mean effectively giving up the crownlands and maybe the war at this point, so se took her chances and decided to fight. she already beat aegon and she saw how ruthless aemond was, so in a sense dhe was hoping she could end the whole war for rhaenyra here once and for all,. In a sense she knew the danger she was in so you could say she was effectively commiting suicide, but she also knew what fleeing would mean for rhaenyras war effort, so she stayed and fought... say what you wil about rhaenys but if she was the queen she seemed the kind to take on the battle herself rather than send people to do the fighting for her, something we see in rhaenyra too, which is why she stands by her
Finally, someone acknowledged how crucial it is to stay or flee that would effectively showcase how the blacks are determined despite being outnumbered in the army, and 2 v 1 dragon fight. Don't get me wrong, fleeing is not cowardice but this is what heroes and heroines do.
I mean the little harm she could cause to Vhagar was a win. It was worth trying to at least incapacitate Vhagar. She did made sense going back to chase him and try to do as much to it as possible, even at the cost of her life, which we see she realizes its about to happen.
"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys to her enemies." 💔 - Fire & Blood (Im fuckin cryin bros) RIP to the Red Queen, and The Queen Who SHOULDVE Been.
“Beloved daughter of lady Jocelyn Baratheon and prince Aemon Targaryen, faithful wife to Corlys Velaryon, mother and grandmother, the queen who never was lived fearlessly, and died amidst blood and fire. she was fifty-five years old.”
“Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys toward the foe.” - Fire & Blood. Rhaenys Targaryen and her dragon Meleys not backing down and bravely facing Vhagar. Princess Rhaenys could have escaped If she wanted to. Meleys is faster than Vhagar and Caraxes. Rhaenys chose to stay because she saw and she knew she had the chance to injure Vhagar and somewhat incapacitate her and Aemond to fight in the future even at the expense of her and Meleys life.
that quote works a bit less here, because in the book Vhagar and Sunfyre fought a coordinated attack, so "she made no attempt to flee" shows her bravery. In the show, she fought Sunfyre first, took him down, and then had to choose whether she would battle Vhagar or not, which I think makes her last stand a little bit less impactful.
I really love that the show made the dragon's fighting as sad as they did. On paper dragon's fighting each other sounds badass, and then you see the reality and you realize how horrific it really is.
I feel so bad for the dragons 😢 they don’t deserve any of this, they’re just doing it out of love for their riders. Abusing their love and their loyalty by leading them to slaughter is just horrific
vhagar is THE most experienced dragon. vhagar participated in the conquest of westeros. she is a pure war dragon. for meleys, even though they mention past battles, it is unclear in the book which battle this would be since the realm has been at peace for so long.
There have been a number of smaller uprisings over the years. However vhagar is the only current dragon that has experience in dragon vs dragon combat.
@@kylemma33what dragon did Meleys fight exactly? The only dragon vs dragon fight since the fall of Valyria was Maegor using Balerion to chomp Aegon the Uncrowned.
Say what you will, but poor Sunfyre's screams of pain and terror are a thousand times more heartbreaking to me than the look between Meleys and Rhaenys, sorry. He really didn't expect, much less deserve, this.
@@kathiamartinez2586 say that to grey ghost who's doing his own business and suddenly killed by sunfyre or moondancer lol, i didn't feel anything about sunfyre he deserves any of it. And his end
I mean no offense but he deserves deserve all of his misery, I would rather feel bad for grey ghost or moondancer. Cheese dog deserve better than this ugly pissed 🤮
It was Sunfyre they got burned on their wing and Meleys got bit if it was for Meleys the neck would’ve broken but the wing broke the same wing she had repaired years ago
As a book reader and diehard hater of later seasons of GoT due to bad writing I'm gonna say - many book fans are just sad loosers who cry "bad writing" whenever something doesn't play out like their headcanon. It's known in this fanbase... Don't listen to these people.
Ok, the vast majority might truely be haters due to their "headcanon". But it's not just that. I'm a fan of the books, actually assumed Danys demise and her end (did not expect Bran to become king though). I even liked many of the showriters choices (like skipping Lady Stoneheart, or fake Arya and many more "distracting" sidequests by GRRM), but they did really screw up the later seasons - not just because of "headcanon" issues. Sandsnakes - purely wasted idea. Euron Greyjoy (and missing Victarion) not worth even introducing him. Dialoges? Flat, too many stupid one-liners, sometimes purely fan-service. Plot? Characters warping around Westeros, among many other issues. Technical side? Long Night a mess of darkness, no strategy, non-logical battle, totally forgotten Dothraki losses. Battle of the Bastards equally bad. Ramsays army slowly walking shields-up around Johns, to surround them? WTF? Bells that now ring for a city to surrender? While it was established, that they never mean surrender previously. Then they claimed to not have enough time and budget to do some of the important moments - but gave us 10 minutes of Jamie and Tyrion talking about their stone-mashing stupid cousin? I am thankful, that they finished the show, but later seasons are getting worse and worse. In a technical perspective, in a logical way, how events unfold and lore is getting screwed, in a screenwriters perspective and so on. It may not be horrible, but it is mediocre at best. Sorry.
@@SaiyanSerenityV I get that. As an adaptation I don't like it either. Diddle&Dumb's changes were insults to the books back then already and cutting out so much of the fantasy elements... But I view early GoT seasons as their own story and as for that it's still absolutely brilliant. It's just not what the books are. This? Fuck! Ryan Condall knows this world and you can feel it! This is what ASOIAF actually is! As an adaptation of George's world this is definitely better then GoT.
Meleys fucked up Sunfyre so bad I actually started yelling "Sunfyre fight back!!!" and I'm not even on their side. I was so embarassed for him and Aegon.
@@bmaxime8771 I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s a deviation. In the preview for the next episode the Greens are announcing it was Sunfyre that killed Meleys. History is full of conflicting accounts and false information, and Fire and Blood was written as a fictional history book.
You didn't need to be a book reader to know Rhaenys was dying this season but damn I really wasn't expecting it this early, thought it would be an episode 7 or 8 moment. Heartbreaking stuff watching the looks exchanged between Rhaenys and Meleys. Really wish she dipped because Eve Best has done an amazing job playing the role. Fair play though they took Vhagar down at the very least. Huge loss for house black, can't wait to see where it goes from here.
@@bmaxime8771 There's a point during the fight where you see Vhagar hit the ground and Meleys is flying off. All I meant was she held her own and got Vhagar to the ground, I know she did kill them lol. Sunfyre got done dirty though, such a cool intro to be severely injured about 2 mins in.
@@MsAaannaaa Apologies, I can't help a tease. For the record, I was not prepared for how hard it was to watch the dragons dance, even knowing what to expect.
When Cole saw Aemond show up it wasn’t that he was feeling good. It was his realization that his plotting buddy was plotting to have Aegon take a L. He looked on like “ooooooh”
I'm so glad they put the lights on for this epic showdown. We got to see every detail of this battle; not for one second was I squinting or trying to figure out what was happening. What an amazing and brave piece of TV.
They are at the mercy of their riders will.The link between dragon and targerrian blood is very strong. No matter how much they still care for one another, they are at the behest of anyone who claims them. Evil or not. Slaves.
Alicent: "Aegon, don't do anything to put yourself in danger!" Aegon two hours later: "Alright boys let's do this! LEEEROYYYYY JENNNKINNNS..." Crispy Cole: "OMG, he just went in...." Aemond: "Aegon, you are just stupid as hell."
Alicent didn’t say “to put yourself in danger.” She coldly said “do nothing” in answer to the question of what he could do to be helpful. She essentially told him he was worthless.
Rhaenys' death is sadder if you think that Vhagar was the dragon of her beloved daughter Laena and that Aemond "stole" the right to claim her from his granddaughter Rhaena
As Maelys cast a final glance at Rhaenys, essentially bidding farewell, I found myself deeply moved. Regardless of one's allegiance, such moments evoke genuine sadness.
The thing i love about this series is how multi-faceted the antagonists are, they have elements that make you like them, believe they'd be good people if they weren't surrounded by so much bloodlust. Except Cole, fuck that guy
Since you asked, the brew given to Alicent in this episode is referred to as Moon Tea in the books, with menstruation being referred to as having one’s Moon’s Blood. The ingredients mentioned in the book include tansy, wormwood and pennyroyal, all of which could bring on a miscarriage in real life, and should definitely be avoided by pregnant women. In the primary series of Game of Thrones, Lysa Arryn was forced to drink it by her father when she became pregnant by Petyr Baelish as an unmarried, young girl. It resulted in both lasting physical and mental damage for Lysa. I would imagine that if taken right away, as more of a preventative, the physical damage is minimal to unlikely.
Aemond also had his sword out to finish off his brother. Only stopped when cole showed up. My guess is he is hurt but alive since Aemond had his sword out.
Those of us who have read the book know the outcome of people and the war, know not to get attached to characters but its hard. Rhaenys and Meleys RIP. And Daemon is at the wrong place with a guilty conscience. A cursed haunted place with a Weirwood tree. You noticed he woke up in front of it last episode. Not to mention the bed he is sleeping on is made of Weirwood. So close to ending Crispy Cole, Lord of Projection
I think she knew she was on a kamikaze mission. She was the one til now saying never send in the dragons because it’s a nuclear option. She decided that’s the only option left and took it upon herself to do this showing Rhaenyra this is what they have to do. I love the exchanged look of Meleys and her knowing it was the end and thanks for all the memories type of look. I guess Aegon shouldn’t have humiliated Aemond last episode. I feel that he’s still alive but in bad shape because they would’ve shown him dead. Sad to see her and her dragon go. It was truly heartbreaking
The concoction that Alys gave Daemon was Weirwood sap, it's what Bran consumes to enhance his Greenseer powers. He drank it because he had just seen her eat some and then add hot water to it. In the books, it is said that she appears younger than she really is, but according to the showrunner, Ryan Condel, she is 400 years old.
The Reds couldn't send more than one dragon because then Dragonstone would be unguarded. Keep in mind Rhaenyra's dragon is mid-sized while Jace's and Baela's are relatively small (smaller than Aegon's). With Daemon gone, sending Rhaenys was the only real option.
My big issue was how stupid Rhaenyras decision to sneak into KL was (and also how recognizable she was in the disguise while being accused of murdering the prince). But I'm very happy Jace mentioned it and questioned it in this episode.
Not really because nobody would know who she is it’s been a while and when she was spotted she was wearing gowns and jewels at least this costume covered her head and body so much harder to recognise not to mention many Targaryen’s actually became septon’s at this time so nobody would put 2 and 2 together if they saw her hair colour.
They believed Vhegar was guarding Kings Landing but Cole and Aemond knew due to the proximity to Dragonstone, they blacks would have to make moves. To Rhaenys and Meyles credit, they took Vhegar to the ground. She just made the critical mistake of not suspecting that sneak attack. 😢😢😢
And see Valyrians who have properly bonded with their Dragon, can FEEL each other... When VHAGAR took out Meleys Rhaenys could feel Meleys' Agony... So in a way they BOTH DIED at the same time.
People keep forgetting that Vhagar has 180 years of countless battles under her belt, she rode with Aegon the Conqueror. She has more combat experience and tactical training than all the other dragons combined. She’s much more than just sheer size.
In season 1, Rhaenys said she wouldn’t leave Meleys when she was escaping King’s Landing. The Queen Who Never Was lived fearlessly, and died amidst Fire and Blood.
@@darthnihilus8669that's true lmao he's pretty dumb in the books he keeps taking rash decisons that end up in lots of failed moments for greens . In the show they might change that tho
Some symbolism that I like The dragon statue that alicent dropped broke a wing = sunfyre falls from the sky and loses a wing The red dragon cup falls and shatters = rhaenys and meleys fall and crash.
Rhaenys wanted to make sure she does everything she can this time, she was the first one to get blamed for not ending the greens when she had the chance. This was her second and a more "proper" chance, since it's already a war.
the effects in this episode were beautiful and terrifying. i kind of expected vhaegar to pop up in front of the castle - i hated being right. since we didn't get a gratuitous shot of aegon's body, i wonder if he will have been disabled by the fire and the fall and will be still alive in the next episode. it would be sad if he ended up like his father.
Aegon is in his 20’s now and a grown man. i think it’s time to stop babying him. viserys is highly responsible as well for how aegon turned out yet people don’t hate on him the same way people do on alicent. Also, otto was way worse to aegon in episode 2 than alicent has been and people liked him for yelling at aegon but get mad at alicent. smells like misogyny to me.
It's said that Meleys wanted to die with Rhaenys, because she didn't want another rider that didn't love her as much. Their bond was immense. Vhagar was used as a war dragon, so she doesn't tolerate anything very much (like Luke's dragon firing at her, and Vhagar not listening and ended up killing them both). Her last rider allowed her to rest, after all those years of fighting; like the time when she was trying to dodge the fight with Caraxes. But then Aemond had to go and ruin it.
Sunfire screams, Meleys and Rhaenys bond crack me up. We all are here for the dance of the dragons, but they’re savage. This war is the beginning of the downfall from Targaryens exactly because many dragons also died.
A Dragon does not bow and neither shall I. Rhaenys Targaryen. In the books it was trap devised by Criston Cole two against one. The Battle started between Sunfyre and Meleys until Daemon and Vhagar came from above. Rhaenys was a warrior through and through and she died for the cause she wholeheartedly believed in. Also what makes it even more heartbreaking is that once upon a time Meleys and Vhagar were once besties in a sense. She was Queen Alyssa's dragon and Vhagar was her Husbands Baelon. They flew all the time together and spent lots of time flying.
It HAD to be Rhaenys and Meleys. People are crying…yes I did as well but at the end of the day She redeemed herself because she could have ended it before it began. Also she was counseling Rhaenyra the entire time advising her to hold back from the attack. She died a Queen though. Her death just changed the game. And she was trying to push Corlys to name a successor as well because she KNEW that he is gonna be setting out to avenge her leaving Driftmark Throne vulnerable.
Probably my fav. episode. My one issue is I don't think there's any way an experienced combo like R&M take their eyes off their biggest threat (A&V). No shot that happens. Also, if Aegon is somehow alive, this ep will lose many points with me. No way he should survive that fall.
@@andrewward5891 I'm glad the added the Valyrian steel armor, it makes Aegons survival more plausible. There is no Valyrian steel armor in Fire and blood.
Rhaenys could litteraly end the war here. That's why she stayed. The 5 biggest threats of Team Green are here : Aemond/Vhagar, Criston Cole, and Aegon/Sunfyre. Aegon/Sunfyre were out, and she was doing well against Vhagar, putting her down against all odds. It was her duty to try. A success would have given the victory to Team Black. If Vhagar (or at least Aemond) and Sunfyre were both killed, the Greens would only have two dragons left : Tessarion and Dreamfyre. Dreamfyre is not a warrior/fighting type (like Syrax), and Tessarion is still young and too tiny to beat a dragon like Caraxes.
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"And everywhere the dragons danced the people died."
Did they
Aegon trying to speak Valyrion: I can haz cheezeburger
lol i can haz cheezebooger
He can has crashburner
I can be cheeseburger? 🍔
😂 😂😂
His grasp of Valyrian is barely better than Tyrion's...
And the sounds that Sunfyre was making I couldn’t handle it when I watched I was yelling and crying
Literally. Meleys and Rhaenys was sad, but seeing Sunfyre for the first time and then he just gets demolished because he’s probably never seen battle. And then he’s just crying the entire time. He reminded me of a little puppy
It's like the sound of an injured dog, horrible.
Poor little Sunfyre tried to be so brave for his rider but he never stood a chance 😢
I love the brief glimpse we get of Aegon's relationship with Sunfyre. You can see the love. Probably the only kind of love Aegon has ever experienced.
the look between Meleys and Rhaenys before they died… it brokes me
Never have I been so eager for anything as to when aemond gets his comeuppance.
That nearly broke me. ❤
And Rhaenys strapped herself down before they went after Vhagar. That was telling Meleys that if she was going down, she would go with her to the end.
@@WoodlandAshLol it is war, what do you expect? Should Aemond have just surrendered while Rhaeneys was burning down his army?
@@WoodlandAsh Both sides lose in that event. Daemon knows he can't face vhagar and survive, the best he can hope for is a draw.
you guys have no idea how much sunfyre loves Aegon
the only one that's ever loved him
Aegon loves him too. That smile he gives sunfyre is soo genuine
Sunfyre crying literally made me cry this episode. I know the war is about dragons v dragons but it’s so sad 😭
You can hate Aegon but that bond with Sunfyre is the bond that all riders want but very few actually have it’s just my luck that my two favorite dragons are Sunfyre and Dreamfyre 😭🤦♂️
Pretty sure it said somewhere that Aegon II and Sunfyre have one of the best dragonbonds in lore. Dunno where the show will go but in the book Sunfyre goes above and beyond to be with Aegon II.
Did they show this bond in the show? I don’t recall anything special about Aegon’s and Sunfyre’s bond being established.
@@Taulant234there was an affectionate moment between them. Sunfyre booped aegon and smiled and he laughed. Like a man and his dog. Was cute but wish we got more
@@jaimelannister1797 which episode?
@@Taulant234 in this episode, right before he went off to rooks rest
Rhaenys returned because regardless of the ambush, the order from her queen and the original intention was to secure rooks rest and stop criston cole's advance. she could've easily fled on several occasions but that would mean effectively giving up the crownlands and maybe the war at this point, so se took her chances and decided to fight.
she already beat aegon and she saw how ruthless aemond was, so in a sense dhe was hoping she could end the whole war for rhaenyra here once and for all,. In a sense she knew the danger she was in so you could say she was effectively commiting suicide, but she also knew what fleeing would mean for rhaenyras war effort, so she stayed and fought...
say what you wil about rhaenys but if she was the queen she seemed the kind to take on the battle herself rather than send people to do the fighting for her, something we see in rhaenyra too, which is why she stands by her
Finally, someone acknowledged how crucial it is to stay or flee that would effectively showcase how the blacks are determined despite being outnumbered in the army, and 2 v 1 dragon fight. Don't get me wrong, fleeing is not cowardice but this is what heroes and heroines do.
I mean the little harm she could cause to Vhagar was a win. It was worth trying to at least incapacitate Vhagar. She did made sense going back to chase him and try to do as much to it as possible, even at the cost of her life, which we see she realizes its about to happen.
So happy she finally got got. Justice for the small folk she murdered
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 Yeah... What a monster, She escaped from King's Landing how she dared 😵💫
@@Hear.myvoice and murdered hundreds of innocent men women and children, then had the arrogance to claim moral superiority with that stupid smug face.
Poor sunfyre. Prolly thought his master was taking him out for a flight. Little did he know that it was his last😭
It was not his last
Bro' winter arc just started, just watch LMAO
Spoiler alert: Sunfyre and aegon both are alive and wounded.
If it's any consolation, this will by no means be the die-hard Sunfyre's last battle💛💪🏻
Sunfyre is about to do something really horrid in the dragon oitt. It's was spoiled by Jeffrey during GOt to Sansa
Meleys: It's an honour...to die at your side.
Rhaenys: (Then) it's an honour...to have lived at yours. 😭
Meleys would go on to develop the power to control metal......
So long, partner...
Ok, that scene made mi cry hard, and this is making me cry again 😢
Well said.
"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys to her enemies." 💔 - Fire & Blood (Im fuckin cryin bros) RIP to the Red Queen, and The Queen Who SHOULDVE Been.
“Beloved daughter of lady Jocelyn Baratheon and prince Aemon Targaryen, faithful wife to Corlys Velaryon, mother and grandmother, the queen who never was lived fearlessly, and died amidst blood and fire. she was fifty-five years old.”
The beheading line has the same energy as "my ancestors are smiling upon me imperials, can you say the same"
Cody: Do you think they're gonna come on their dragons?
Bridget: .... what?
Lol I love your reactions.
Only Aegon would do that. After that balcony scene in season 1 that's what i pictured when Cody said that. 😂
“Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys toward the foe.” - Fire & Blood. Rhaenys Targaryen and her dragon Meleys not backing down and bravely facing Vhagar.
Princess Rhaenys could have escaped
If she wanted to. Meleys is faster than Vhagar and Caraxes. Rhaenys chose to stay because she saw and she knew she
had the chance to injure Vhagar and
somewhat incapacitate her and Aemond to
fight in the future even at the expense of
her and Meleys life.
that quote works a bit less here, because in the book Vhagar and Sunfyre fought a coordinated attack, so "she made no attempt to flee" shows her bravery. In the show, she fought Sunfyre first, took him down, and then had to choose whether she would battle Vhagar or not, which I think makes her last stand a little bit less impactful.
@@andalilbitqueer true
Vhagar biger, faster. So you fight to die or run to die? You saw what happen to Lucerys when he try to run?
@@ViHa-yh4ed according to the books, Meleys was on of, if not, THE fastest dragon at the time of the battle.
I really love that the show made the dragon's fighting as sad as they did. On paper dragon's fighting each other sounds badass, and then you see the reality and you realize how horrific it really is.
I feel so bad for the dragons 😢 they don’t deserve any of this, they’re just doing it out of love for their riders. Abusing their love and their loyalty by leading them to slaughter is just horrific
vhagar is THE most experienced dragon. vhagar participated in the conquest of westeros. she is a pure war dragon. for meleys, even though they mention past battles, it is unclear in the book which battle this would be since the realm has been at peace for so long.
She may have fought in the Stepstones.
There have been a number of smaller uprisings over the years. However vhagar is the only current dragon that has experience in dragon vs dragon combat.
@@kylemma33what dragon did Meleys fight exactly? The only dragon vs dragon fight since the fall of Valyria was Maegor using Balerion to chomp Aegon the Uncrowned.
Say what you will, but poor Sunfyre's screams of pain and terror are a thousand times more heartbreaking to me than the look between Meleys and Rhaenys, sorry. He really didn't expect, much less deserve, this.
😢 so sad about aegon and sunfyre 😢
@@kathiamartinez2586 say that to grey ghost who's doing his own business and suddenly killed by sunfyre or moondancer lol, i didn't feel anything about sunfyre he deserves any of it. And his end
I mean no offense but he deserves deserve all of his misery, I would rather feel bad for grey ghost or moondancer. Cheese dog deserve better than this ugly pissed 🤮
@@hakirasohinagdanan2149 Moondancer? Doing her own business? Lol. Can’t wait to see it.
Alicent dropped the model dragon early in the episode. I wonder if that was foreshadowing for Sunfyre or Meleys falling!
It's the same dragon she gave to Visaerys early in season 1. Lot's of symbolism and foreshadowing there.
It was Sunfyre they got burned on their wing and Meleys got bit if it was for Meleys the neck would’ve broken but the wing broke the same wing she had repaired years ago
Goes to show how she caused the dance of dragons.
Aegon also droppen a golden cup with a dragon embroided on it - foreshadowing for the golden Sunfyre to go down.
Knew what was coming but i still cried, the way Maelys looked at Rhaenys as she dies 😢
As a book reader and diehard hater of later seasons of GoT due to bad writing I'm gonna say - many book fans are just sad loosers who cry "bad writing" whenever something doesn't play out like their headcanon. It's known in this fanbase... Don't listen to these people.
Ok, the vast majority might truely be haters due to their "headcanon". But it's not just that. I'm a fan of the books, actually assumed Danys demise and her end (did not expect Bran to become king though). I even liked many of the showriters choices (like skipping Lady Stoneheart, or fake Arya and many more "distracting" sidequests by GRRM), but they did really screw up the later seasons - not just because of "headcanon" issues.
Sandsnakes - purely wasted idea. Euron Greyjoy (and missing Victarion) not worth even introducing him. Dialoges? Flat, too many stupid one-liners, sometimes purely fan-service. Plot? Characters warping around Westeros, among many other issues. Technical side? Long Night a mess of darkness, no strategy, non-logical battle, totally forgotten Dothraki losses. Battle of the Bastards equally bad. Ramsays army slowly walking shields-up around Johns, to surround them? WTF? Bells that now ring for a city to surrender? While it was established, that they never mean surrender previously. Then they claimed to not have enough time and budget to do some of the important moments - but gave us 10 minutes of Jamie and Tyrion talking about their stone-mashing stupid cousin? I am thankful, that they finished the show, but later seasons are getting worse and worse. In a technical perspective, in a logical way, how events unfold and lore is getting screwed, in a screenwriters perspective and so on. It may not be horrible, but it is mediocre at best. Sorry.
@@dnocturn84I think you misread their comment. They said "diehard hater of later seasons GOT" so they probably agree with you.
As a book reader I 100percent agree. I think the show has been phenomenal so far
Book reader here, I don't even like early GoT as an adaptation, and I think with very few bumps and nitpicks, that this show is fucking incredible.
@@SaiyanSerenityV I get that. As an adaptation I don't like it either. Diddle&Dumb's changes were insults to the books back then already and cutting out so much of the fantasy elements...
But I view early GoT seasons as their own story and as for that it's still absolutely brilliant. It's just not what the books are.
This? Fuck! Ryan Condall knows this world and you can feel it! This is what ASOIAF actually is! As an adaptation of George's world this is definitely better then GoT.
25:14 'this doesn't make me happy' is so real. Like we were all waiting for this but now that it's happening I'm just sad for the poor dragons
So so true 😭😭😭 i was like yeah dragon fight wait NO THOSE ARE ANIMALS STOP IT NO like watching puppies in a dog fight 😭
Worst part is just they had to die because of a stupid power war
Crazy detail, Dragons fight like eagles except they add fire breath lol
Eagles lock talon and spiral until one gives up or they smack into the ground
Meleys fucked up Sunfyre so bad I actually started yelling "Sunfyre fight back!!!" and I'm not even on their side. I was so embarassed for him and Aegon.
It was like watching a Cane Corso maim a helpless puppy. Sweet Sunfyre wasn't prepared for war. :(
@@EmeraldDreams7 they chose to deviate from the books on that, in the book Sunfyre is the only reason Meleys didnt kill Vaghar in that battle.
@@bmaxime8771 I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s a deviation. In the preview for the next episode the Greens are announcing it was Sunfyre that killed Meleys. History is full of conflicting accounts and false information, and Fire and Blood was written as a fictional history book.
I knew what was coming this episode, but that was the most gripping/intense 20 minutes of television that I've ever seen. Truly insane
You didn't need to be a book reader to know Rhaenys was dying this season but damn I really wasn't expecting it this early, thought it would be an episode 7 or 8 moment. Heartbreaking stuff watching the looks exchanged between Rhaenys and Meleys. Really wish she dipped because Eve Best has done an amazing job playing the role. Fair play though they took Vhagar down at the very least. Huge loss for house black, can't wait to see where it goes from here.
I figured it was coming, I think we have another battle happening in the episode 7-8 spot with the Battle of the Gullet...
where did you see that they took down Vaghar ? xD they took down Sunfyre
@@slmott399 As much as I don't wanna see any of the dragons die I'm here for all the madness to come lol
@@bmaxime8771 There's a point during the fight where you see Vhagar hit the ground and Meleys is flying off. All I meant was she held her own and got Vhagar to the ground, I know she did kill them lol. Sunfyre got done dirty though, such a cool intro to be severely injured about 2 mins in.
I'm heartbroken and never want to see dragons fighting each other again. :(
BOY do I have bad news for you lol
you're watching the wrong show
@@slmott399 GIRL I've read the books, leave me alone :P
@@MsAaannaaa Apologies, I can't help a tease. For the record, I was not prepared for how hard it was to watch the dragons dance, even knowing what to expect.
@@slmott399 same :((((((
When Cole saw Aemond show up it wasn’t that he was feeling good. It was his realization that his plotting buddy was plotting to have Aegon take a L. He looked on like “ooooooh”
I'm so glad they put the lights on for this epic showdown. We got to see every detail of this battle; not for one second was I squinting or trying to figure out what was happening.
What an amazing and brave piece of TV.
“The bowl was too shallow.” 🤣🤣🤣
Vhagar and Meleys were like besties becoz they were dragons of daemon and viserys mother and father
They are at the mercy of their riders will.The link between dragon and targerrian blood is very strong. No matter how much they still care for one another, they are at the behest of anyone who claims them. Evil or not. Slaves.
@@Christrulesall2 a dragon is not a slave, they choose their riders
R.I.P Queen that never was and Meleys.... you'll be missed but you went out like the QUEEN YOU ARE 👑❤️
Did you know that every Tully leech Lord is named after a SESAME STREET CHARACTER...
GROVER
OSCAR
ELMO TULLY
Yes 😂
Leech Lord?? 😂😂
*liege lord
its called LIEGE LORD not leech lord SMDH
Alicent: "Aegon, don't do anything to put yourself in danger!"
Aegon two hours later: "Alright boys let's do this! LEEEROYYYYY JENNNKINNNS..."
Crispy Cole: "OMG, he just went in...."
Aemond: "Aegon, you are just stupid as hell."
minutes later.... "At least i have chicken"
Alicent didn’t say “to put yourself in danger.” She coldly said “do nothing” in answer to the question of what he could do to be helpful. She essentially told him he was worthless.
I’ve started watching your reactions without watching episodes first, and absolutely love it! “Is he dead” lol
Rhaenys' death is sadder if you think that Vhagar was the dragon of her beloved daughter Laena and that Aemond "stole" the right to claim her from his granddaughter Rhaena
Make it even sadder.
Meleys was ridden by Viserys and Daemon’s mother, Alyssa and Vhagar was their fathers mount
@@vargr2089i knew it, is fuckin’ sad 😭😭😭
I'm so tired of people not understanding lore you can't steal a dragon aemond had as much of a right to vhagar as rheana did
@@RobertSawney is something about RESPECT at the time to claim a dragon
I mean sure he stole Vhagar but Rhaena is an absolute idiot for not bonding with her sooner now she’s an overqualified nanny basically lmao
Dragonstone is an island yes but Rooks Rest provides them a foothold on the mainland which (if you're the greens) you don't want them to have.
Peak TV!
I still can't believe we are witnessing dance of the dragons....
I need Daemon and Caraxes to hurry up and fight Aemond and Vhagar already 😭
Fighting vhagar recklessly without a plan would be death, even for daemon.
@@kylemma33 You must not be a book reader lol
@@kylemma33wait and see😂
@@kylemma33 tell me you didnt read the books without telling me
@@PerfectlyImperfect93I am and he’s got a point it’s suicide…
As Maelys cast a final glance at Rhaenys, essentially bidding farewell, I found myself deeply moved. Regardless of one's allegiance, such moments evoke genuine sadness.
Aegon probably looks like Anakin after he fought Kenobi
The thing i love about this series is how multi-faceted the antagonists are, they have elements that make you like them, believe they'd be good people if they weren't surrounded by so much bloodlust.
Except Cole, fuck that guy
Since you asked, the brew given to Alicent in this episode is referred to as Moon Tea in the books, with menstruation being referred to as having one’s Moon’s Blood. The ingredients mentioned in the book include tansy, wormwood and pennyroyal, all of which could bring on a miscarriage in real life, and should definitely be avoided by pregnant women. In the primary series of Game of Thrones, Lysa Arryn was forced to drink it by her father when she became pregnant by Petyr Baelish as an unmarried, young girl. It resulted in both lasting physical and mental damage for Lysa. I would imagine that if taken right away, as more of a preventative, the physical damage is minimal to unlikely.
Aemond also had his sword out to finish off his brother. Only stopped when cole showed up. My guess is he is hurt but alive since Aemond had his sword out.
episode 4 is really heartbreaking I can't believe they killed Melïse they witnessed a dragon extinction it's horrible
I love that previous actors have cameos. 😊
I love how they show both Aegon and Rhaenys having a sweet bonding moment with their dragons before they take off for Rooks Rest.
Those of us who have read the book know the outcome of people and the war, know not to get attached to characters but its hard. Rhaenys and Meleys RIP. And Daemon is at the wrong place with a guilty conscience. A cursed haunted place with a Weirwood tree. You noticed he woke up in front of it last episode. Not to mention the bed he is sleeping on is made of Weirwood. So close to ending Crispy Cole, Lord of Projection
I think she knew she was on a kamikaze mission. She was the one til now saying never send in the dragons because it’s a nuclear option. She decided that’s the only option left and took it upon herself to do this showing Rhaenyra this is what they have to do. I love the exchanged look of Meleys and her knowing it was the end and thanks for all the memories type of look. I guess Aegon shouldn’t have humiliated Aemond last episode. I feel that he’s still alive but in bad shape because they would’ve shown him dead. Sad to see her and her dragon go. It was truly heartbreaking
on paper dragons fighting sounded so cool, in reality it broke me. I love them so much😭
plan tea!!!! hahahahahahaha you guys are funny
Cole tea.
The concoction that Alys gave Daemon was Weirwood sap, it's what Bran consumes to enhance his Greenseer powers. He drank it because he had just seen her eat some and then add hot water to it.
In the books, it is said that she appears younger than she really is, but according to the showrunner, Ryan Condel, she is 400 years old.
Aemond also walked off with the Dagger.
Finally 🎉 reactors that had the same thought process as me 😢 I believe they should've sent all the dragons to help since it was so clearly a trap!
and this is just the first Dance…
one of the best episodes in the entire GoT universe
I agree the build up was just perfect my fave episode ever
The Reds couldn't send more than one dragon because then Dragonstone would be unguarded. Keep in mind Rhaenyra's dragon is mid-sized while Jace's and Baela's are relatively small (smaller than Aegon's). With Daemon gone, sending Rhaenys was the only real option.
You mean the Blacks.
I love Cody's commentary, hilarious... Been watching you guys from GOT ... And I watched the show 6 years ago
from the start Rhaenys just had the look of someone who knew she was getting into something she wasnt coming back from
She should have gone to kings landing with Daemon. That's twice now rhaenys could prevent disaster and failed
My big issue was how stupid Rhaenyras decision to sneak into KL was (and also how recognizable she was in the disguise while being accused of murdering the prince). But I'm very happy Jace mentioned it and questioned it in this episode.
Not really because nobody would know who she is it’s been a while and when she was spotted she was wearing gowns and jewels at least this costume covered her head and body so much harder to recognise not to mention many Targaryen’s actually became septon’s at this time so nobody would put 2 and 2 together if they saw her hair colour.
They believed Vhegar was guarding Kings Landing but Cole and Aemond knew due to the proximity to Dragonstone, they blacks would have to make moves.
To Rhaenys and Meyles credit, they took Vhegar to the ground. She just made the critical mistake of not suspecting that sneak attack. 😢😢😢
29:21 Reflection in the background.
And see Valyrians who have properly bonded with their Dragon, can FEEL each other... When VHAGAR took out Meleys Rhaenys could feel Meleys' Agony... So in a way they BOTH DIED at the same time.
Ohhhh this was a good one. Not just the obvious spectacle but the way they built up to it and laid down the groundwork beforehand.
oscar and grover tully lol the sesame street/jim henson reference cracked me up
People keep forgetting that Vhagar has 180 years of countless battles under her belt, she rode with Aegon the Conqueror. She has more combat experience and tactical training than all the other dragons combined. She’s much more than just sheer size.
Incredible Episode
Insanity at the end
I agree with you the writing has been fantastic
We were all bridgette at the end of the episode, we don't want to WAIT a whole week !!
In season 1, Rhaenys said she wouldn’t leave Meleys when she was escaping King’s Landing.
The Queen Who Never Was lived fearlessly, and died amidst Fire and Blood.
Aemond is one of the real dangers with or without Vhagar 💀🔥
Too many people underestimate his prowess with the blade.
No tf he's not.... he's nothing without vhagar
@@Rash23215book reader here and that is absolutely not true at all just wait and see
@@darthnihilus8669that's true lmao he's pretty dumb in the books he keeps taking rash decisons that end up in lots of failed moments for greens . In the show they might change that tho
@@angelyuqi6709 in the books not in the show :P
I was WAITING for this
11:36 they did not know of the pull out way yet
Some symbolism that I like
The dragon statue that alicent dropped broke a wing = sunfyre falls from the sky and loses a wing
The red dragon cup falls and shatters = rhaenys and meleys fall and crash.
Rhaenys wanted to make sure she does everything she can this time, she was the first one to get blamed for not ending the greens when she had the chance. This was her second and a more "proper" chance, since it's already a war.
the effects in this episode were beautiful and terrifying. i kind of expected vhaegar to pop up in front of the castle - i hated being right. since we didn't get a gratuitous shot of aegon's body, i wonder if he will have been disabled by the fire and the fall and will be still alive in the next episode. it would be sad if he ended up like his father.
"I don't wanna wait another weeeek 😢" - bridgette and all of us
If she’s dead he better be dead too. But did y’all see how Aemond just walked away 😂😂
I don't think Aegon is dead. But you never know the way these writers change shit up.
My favorite Dragon 😢 Rip the Red Queen
12:01 I choked on my own saliva 😂😂😂
Aegon is in his 20’s now and a grown man. i think it’s time to stop babying him. viserys is highly responsible as well for how aegon turned out yet people don’t hate on him the same way people do on alicent. Also, otto was way worse to aegon in episode 2 than alicent has been and people liked him for yelling at aegon but get mad at alicent. smells like misogyny to me.
nice reaction keep it up 💚
It's said that Meleys wanted to die with Rhaenys, because she didn't want another rider that didn't love her as much. Their bond was immense.
Vhagar was used as a war dragon, so she doesn't tolerate anything very much (like Luke's dragon firing at her, and Vhagar not listening and ended up killing them both). Her last rider allowed her to rest, after all those years of fighting; like the time when she was trying to dodge the fight with Caraxes. But then Aemond had to go and ruin it.
The concoction Alys Rivers gave Daemon looked like Weirwood sap. That is what Bran consumed to enhance his Greenseer dreams.
King Viserys the Peaceful kinda had a point about keeping the realm together and not wanting to ride dragons
People spent Aegon's whole life trying to get him on the throne...and didn't think to prepare him for the job.
Rhaenys going out like the badass icon she is ❤
Sunfire screams, Meleys and Rhaenys bond crack me up. We all are here for the dance of the dragons, but they’re savage. This war is the beginning of the downfall from Targaryens exactly because many dragons also died.
“Sleep in “ 🤣🤣🤣yeah we all know the damage vhagar does once she shows up
A Dragon does not bow and neither shall I.
Rhaenys Targaryen.
In the books it was trap devised by Criston Cole two against one. The Battle started between Sunfyre and Meleys until Daemon and Vhagar came from above. Rhaenys was a warrior through and through and she died for the cause she wholeheartedly believed in. Also what makes it even more heartbreaking is that once upon a time Meleys and Vhagar were once besties in a sense. She was Queen Alyssa's dragon and Vhagar was her Husbands Baelon. They flew all the time together and spent lots of time flying.
Cody saying there’s gonna be flashy moments made me chuckle considering this episode is like a damn flash bang gernade
The writing is still good, especially compared to late GoT. I think the psople who are mad are going to be mad about any changes from the books.
That is always the case with adapting books to live action,
People can never be satisfied.
It HAD to be Rhaenys and Meleys. People are crying…yes I did as well but at the end of the day She redeemed herself because she could have ended it before it began. Also she was counseling Rhaenyra the entire time advising her to hold back from the attack. She died a Queen though. Her death just changed the game. And she was trying to push Corlys to name a successor as well because she KNEW that he is gonna be setting out to avenge her leaving Driftmark Throne vulnerable.
The sarcasm? I love yall💀❤️
Probably my fav. episode. My one issue is I don't think there's any way an experienced combo like R&M take their eyes off their biggest threat (A&V). No shot that happens.
Also, if Aegon is somehow alive, this ep will lose many points with me. No way he should survive that fall.
Aegon was wearing Valyrian steel armor (literal plot armor)
Sunfyre somewhat broke Aegons fall
@@andrewward5891 I'm glad the added the Valyrian steel armor, it makes Aegons survival more plausible. There is no Valyrian steel armor in Fire and blood.
In the book the only reason Rhaenys and Meleys didnt kill Vaghar and Aemond is Sunfyre, in the episode Sunfyre is kinda useless which is a bit sad
Rhaenys could litteraly end the war here. That's why she stayed.
The 5 biggest threats of Team Green are here : Aemond/Vhagar, Criston Cole, and Aegon/Sunfyre. Aegon/Sunfyre were out, and she was doing well against Vhagar, putting her down against all odds. It was her duty to try. A success would have given the victory to Team Black.
If Vhagar (or at least Aemond) and Sunfyre were both killed, the Greens would only have two dragons left : Tessarion and Dreamfyre. Dreamfyre is not a warrior/fighting type (like Syrax), and Tessarion is still young and too tiny to beat a dragon like Caraxes.
Rhaenys wanted a dragonrider's death, like her daughter. I love that detail. RIP
Poor Sunfyre, the amount of disrespect :( In the book Sunfyre is the main reason Vaghar wasn't killed by Meleys, in this he seems useless :/