Like at the very end when explained why we need the electoral college. Then he wondered if “the new social networks” with their instant feed back “which is what Hitler got” are getting dangerous. He said it’s creeping up on us and one day someone might be able to get “fifty million people to do something dangerous.” Dangerous like storm the capitol? Goosebumps!
@@Diego38425 some of the things he dismisses became important, later (but though titled as such aren't his vision of AI, that's another intellectual stupidity being hyped ). I have other concerns though. His reasoning towards spiritualistic worldviews are rather funny in face of the multiverse's fine tuning. A missing physical description for consciousness... like for .. dark matter? Only because main religions messed things up, did and incited horrible deeds and never stopped people from religious madness? Should we allow us to derive from human failings that a misused concept is wrong in itself? Misinterpreting a bad application of an idea with the idea of spirit itself is not helpful. Listen a little bit to John Butler, also here on YT, it's quite an opposite point of view. Balancing both views is an artform.
2:12 ~ Sea of Mental Mysteries 11:30 ~ Ways to Think 31:35 ~ Six Layers Theory 51:30 ~ Self-Representation 1:17:00 ~ Number Forms 1:28:46 ~ Minsky Humor 1:30:10 ~ Cyborgs
Finally a class I can sit in , pretend i understand what’ he’s talking about , dose off, fall asleep, and come back tomorrow night and do it all Again without worrying about taking a midterm on the subject 😂
Wonder if there is study on effects of asmr..... this man owns it! He makes so much sense , but I don’t have a clue what he’s saying, how does that work??? I’m totally captivated
I suggest it's because he exudes confidence at slow speed. He also invites participation by asking the audience questions and links his content to popular culture. It's not everyone's taste but in this fast-paced world his delivery is different - Ekhart Tolle and Ram Das come to mind. I think the students realise they have a special kind of genius addressing them. For example "Oh and that mushroom hallucinogen guy" what's he called... ?" (Terrence McKenna)
oi don't forget cunt. The endearing, australian way of course. Ex: u beautiful cunt. (Cuh x nt) Arabic in foundation, but nationless in the modern day.
"Number form" refers to a cognitive phenomenon known as synesthesia, where people experience numbers in a highly visual and spatial way. For those with "number form synesthesia," numbers are often perceived as having distinct shapes, colors, or positions in space. For example, someone might see the number 7 as always being in a particular location in their mind's eye, or they might perceive it as having a specific color.
The Persians (3500 years ago) and Indians (2000 years ago) knew the earth was around! Their mathematical approaches are documented. So much so that it is part of their religion. Zoroastrians put a Sour Orange (symbolizing earth) in water as part of their New Year celebrations.
Bottle is heavy, ma6be just a straw attached to wall at the same height of his mouth. all he has to do is walk and suck from the straw. The straw is connected to plumbing run from a reverse osmosis system to a retention tank. This would nsure the purest water.
@@Miles-mf9kg don’t forget about your brominator and mixed bed deionization system. Straw can just be a 65 mm ASTM B88 tank suction pipe with a foot valve. Ensuring the professor is properly quenched within milliseconds.
The ideas presented in Marvin Minsky’s book “The Society of Mind” are further developed in “Neurocluster Brain Model” which analyses the processes in the brain from the point of view of the computer science. The brain is a massively parallel computing machine which means that different areas of the brain process the information independently from each other. Neurocluster Brain Model shows how independent massively parallel information processing explains the underlying mechanism of previously unexplainable phenomena such as sleepwalking, dissociative identity disorder (a.k.a. multiple personality disorder), hypnosis, etc.
Whatever the sense of self maybe it is directly related to the sum total of our experiences and our memories of them. A person with advanced Alzheimer’s disease is often left with no sense of self. No memory, no identity.
@@LungaMasilela nah this makes sense. Love is being willing to make sacrifices for someone you care about. It is by no means an emotion or feeling you have towards a person.
@@Rio-mf7dx Wrong. Love by definition is a intense feeling of deep affection to someone or something. I may love someone however I take the decision if I want to ask her out i.e act on my feelings of her.
@@Rio-mf7dx No it's not what I described is what love is in it's purest form. I sense you are a romantic and you wanna make love more than what it is when it's not. Love is a word we made to describe a feeling not a action
To had seen the look on Melvin Minsky face when L Ron Hubbard told him, he didn't have time to go through the procedure himself would be absolutely priceless. 😅
The ‘self’ is adopted by me. It resides inside my physical body. While my physical body grows, the self nourishes and informs the physical body about unities that are occurring while I grow. I imagine the self as absolutely still, deeply quiet and a none actor that is residing in me. I’m not sure a question of love can be answered by my association with the ‘self’ as I know it. However, this old fellow is about to comment on this question of love in relationship to the self. I’ll edit this comment by adding an afterword after I’ve listened. An Afterword: I gather that the professor is saying he loves a world that is mathematical, and only things mathematically verifiable are worthy of his time and energy. That is his love and naught else. I’ll go along with everything but the part about “naught else”. I wonder what grade he would give my summary of his lecture?
He confused some facts about von Neumann, who was born in a Jewish family in Hungary, not in Romania or Bulgaria. Prof. Minsky probably took Budapest for Bucharest. And I can't really see how any of these three countries is 'next to the Baltic'... Well, great lecture anyway.
Around 1:20:00, Minsky is talking about Richard Dawkins in response to a question about memes. Then at 1:24:40 or so, Minsky pokes Dawkins a bit by saying Dawkin's idea is quaint next to all the stuff we've learned about genetics since then. Both statements show Minsky doesn't remember what "The Selfish Gene" was about. I believe the section on Memes is just one chapter, late in the book. The vast majority of the book is about genes, the hard science that Minsky seemed to imply Dawkins was not informed on. The title of the book is also the main idea of the book: that the unit of selective pressure is the gene, not the entire genome (the conventional view). Often times the two viewpoints comport, but Dawkin's gives some examples showing where the gene-centric view diverges from the whole genome view, and how it explains some results that the conventional view has difficulty explaining.
His claim that religious people "don't want to go there" with regards to whom created God, creates an interesting paradox within his own atheistic line of belief. I wonder if he ever considered who, whom or what produced/created the elements necessary to form the universe or universes in the first place? And how long has that been going on? Our minds can't comprehend nothingness, so based on our experience, there must have always been something. Belief in an eternal God is really not much different than believing in an eternal universe. You either choose to believe that their is an eternal mind behind our existence, or you choose to believe that some unknowable eternal force is responsible. It's pretty mind blowing when you start to go down this path.
The usual (and sensible) stance is that asking questions that inevitably recursively generate new questions (like who created the creator) is a waste of time/energy.
"We're never gonna get two thirds. It's the end of America" (talking about Congress introducing any new amendments to the Constitution in the Social Media era) and he said that years ago before Trump and the effect of Social Media in the 2016 elections. He must be smiling in his grave or in whatever alternate reality he's now. HE WAS SPOT ON RIGHT.
@@elamaru9355 “alcor life extension foundation”. Cryogenic freezing shortly after death in the hopes that one day we will be able to clone, bring back, etc dead people, or something like that.
@@djtjpain oh i didnt know this still exists,i thought it had become obvious it doesnt work coz Unless they can soon revive ,heal and rejuvenate one they offer nothing exceptional Is it W,Disney who did it too?
@@elamaru9355 I’ve heard that he did yeah, not 100% sure. And yeah it seems weird to me but I guess if you have the money, might as well. You’re dead either way lol frozen or not
I love when he says the bit about people criticizing him cuz he proposed to many things because it elevates the mere idea above the evidence for the soundess of the idea. At least in a scientific sense, it seems valid to me(please correct any error in my thinking) to criticize someones opus if it only contains ideas. as long as they‘re not shown in any scientific sense to be more than plausible, in that sense they are useless as real explainations. this doesn’t mean the ideas aren‘t worth considering. any way forgot where Ibstarzed
@@earthlingT there is something more radical behind all this. School industry, the medical industry, the health industry, it's all in the corruption. I have just found out through one of Jordan Peterson lectures the genocide is apparent. We have proof.
The claim MM makes at 1:01:30 about probability matching is super surprising. How can the optimal strategy not be to always bet on the higher probability outcome?
Say you live in a northern region and have "optimized" your entire wardrobe just for warm summer weather. What might happen when winter comes? Will you survive winter with your summer optimized clothing? Likely not. Perhaps being optimal short term is not optimal for long term survival? What happened to all those that used your logic and went all in on Cathy Wood's ARK Innovation ETF once it had reputation for being best? Was it a good idea for them? Why not? Probability matching = diversification. The more optimized you are for current environment the more fragile you are when it changes. Nassim Taleb has a book called "Antifragile" about these concepts applied to life and investing.
@@masteryehudi7031That this seemingly sub-optimal behavior exists after millions of years of evolution - how do you explain it? You wanted to know why so I shared with you the best available most sensible explanation. If you doubt that explanation better you do your own research and share with us here your own best explanation. Be sure to bring "proof".
@@chrislesner2822 lol you're an angry person. what you say sounds vaguely plausible. i guess i was interested in the proof that Minsky attributes to Solomonoff. trigger warning: it's still surprising to me 3 years later
Is this a misleading title, or am I simply "simple"? 40 minutes in and nothing about the subject title. He's all over the place, but imho not anything about "love".
I think 'falling in love' was just a place holder for 'feelings' in general, which he touched on in connection to how the brain works. One slide read something in the lines of...'Is emotional and intellectual thinking really are that different?'
I think I found the limit of my mind: so many people say how awesome this lecture is but the first 30 minutes of it is just a bunch of disconnected facts. I am reaching the first hour and I still dont get what is the point of the lecture. Besides of me being dumb, what I am missing?
„There are lot‘s of thibgs that don‘t into newtons laws these days“ As a rebuttal for psychologists not to be liky physicists is the best example for how precisely physics as a field evolved precisely because they didn‘t stick to what was before them. I‘m so torn with this guy because he‘s very nice to listen two but (at least these first two lectures) are so little about his theories and more about how ithers where wrong projected onto entire fields. And he used his explainations as a reason to discretit, which is a bit absurd because in the end on all things empirical one may or may not be right. He confuses frameworks of thinking with results of empiricism and it‘s obvious (and good for science as a whole) that many scientiest do studies that end up in a dead end. It‘s better when out there than when not.
When speaking on consciousness, Marvin stated that consciousness is sometime meaning that you remember it. I consider consciousness is simple being aware of what you about to do and aware of what you have done. Your thoughts?
I'm going to disagree with most people here. These lectures are of abysmal quality. It's just the ramblings of a highly opinionated man past his prime and with a superiority complex, with absolutely no structure. I highly recommend them as a sleep aid though.
Pretty much the impression I'm getting. The guy is clearly obsessing about some life-long grudges of his own, has a big ego, finds himself very entertaining and smart, and is fond of just rambling on and on about episodes from his past (mostly names of "famous" people he interacted with).. like many old people do. Add to it that he was dead wrong about the prospects of neural networks success. Add to it his associations with people like Gates and Epstein. Not a very likable character at all. Seems like the most joy he has in deriding others.
My inner little voices like this subject. Lorenz has a rather questionable history involving the Nazis, but it doesn't appear to have contaminated his work. Psychology isn't the only "social" science with physics envy; economics has a really bad case. There's an interesting phenomenon, that a good way to learn a subject is to teach it, but if you're a real expert on a topic, it can be hard to teach it to beginners because you know it too well, and can't remember what it was like not to understand it thoroughly. Mathematicians seem particularly prone to it. ("It will be immediately obvious to the reader...."; no, it bloody isn't, that's why I'm reading this book.)
Stephan Pinker calls the phenomenon you describe the "curse of knowledge" and uses it to explain why so many experts are terrible communicators to non experts. Having patience raising children and dealing with other ignorant people similarly is helped when you are able to see the world from their unknowing point of view - why they do what they do becomes predictable and compassion replaces anger.
48:00 1. first you dont know if the mind is creating thought or receiving thoughts ..( like a radio ) why can i speak other languages in dreams ? etc... 2. when Lord Ganesh Came to me , ( when i was awake) i had no CLUE who Lord Ganesh was ... so you theory is flawed , in major ways
He does not know everything and neither he should. To be honest his knowledge on anything other than AI, programming, maths is very superficial. Do not get me wrong a guy Marvin does not have time to know that Romania is nowhere near Baltics.
@@TheRocknrollmaniac And that ethics is useless, that should have set all the alarms with red lights blinking. Try no ethics to get rid of Nazis. Nope.
47:08 I'm not sure if he is trying to argue that people don't have free will. it is unclear to me. My argument is that we do have free will. However, we do NOT have free reign over reality. We can only do what our computer computes us to do. We have free will within the confines and limits of how we process information. In other words, we are stuck inside a box. Yet, however, our will is free to roam anywhere within the confines of that box. Overall, my conclusion is that we have free will, but we do NOT have free reign over reality. We can't jump outside of the processing capabilities of our individual self. There are limits! People often push these limits. Those are people who go above and beyond. Like a person who climb mount Everest. That person challenges their will and perceived sense capacities and limitations. However, there are still undeniable limits. We are all bound to operating within the confines of our reality. We have free will, but we do not have free reign over reality.
an example of "free reign over reality" would be agent smith from the matrix. he seemed obsessed with the pursuit of getting outside of his operating capabilities. He was unable to accept the limits. He did not want to accept that he can only do what his computer computes him to do. He wanted to get out of the matrix. and, at one point he actually succeeded. But, his free reign over reality didn't last long, and debatably, it was not extensive to outer space. His reign over reality was still confined to earth. still, he was not able to make free reign over infinity.
1:42: 56. It easier than that. Just say that a poll has been taken and the majority of voters want Joe Biden to be president and presto, nothing more required if you have the media in your pocket.
22:12 whale song. Exactly as I’ve said for years. We are demanding travel to mars, sending out advertisements and maps to meet and encourage aliens and cannot even communicate with dogs ! Yes we eat even our best friends but still after thousands of years cannot speak their language.
Full schizophrenia may be a malady but having that trait in small amounts may offer evolutionary advantages. Stanford professor Robert Sapolsky's lectures on this topic may be useful to help you understand. If all you see is what is real you are bounded and somewhat blinded by reality. If you can see things that are not real (as long as you do not lose control) suddenly you can see into potential realities and your creativity can be useful to discover things that do not exist. The machine you are reading this message on and all the machines that moved it from my mind to yours are the products of millions of "crazy" ideas. High intelligence often comes with small doses of madness.
Freud's critics accused Freud of never having cured a patient when Freud never claimed to do so; it was random, and they had no basis for the accusation
In the first lecture he gets more into it. The cure does not have anything to do with it. Freud did a great thing to emphasize our unconscious. He is not the first nor last, but he dedicated his life to learning about the unconscious so that is why Minsky mentions him. Minsky knows that our cognitive processes are not all consciois
While I appreciate the humor in this video, I have to say that the idea that Muslims only discovered high school algebra is quite misguided. The ancient Persian civilization was home to some of the world's most brilliant minds, and their contributions to science and technology were unparalleled in their time. For instance, the Persian polymath Al-Khwarizmi is credited with inventing algebra itself, but he also made significant advances in trigonometry, astronomy, and geography. In addition, Persian physician and philosopher Avicenna's work in medicine laid the foundation for modern medical practices, and his book "The Canon of Medicine" was used as a standard medical textbook in Europe for centuries. Persian scientist and mathematician Omar Khayyam was also a pioneer in algebra and geometry, and he made significant contributions to the study of astronomy and the solar calendar. These are just a few examples of the immense scientific progress made in the Islamic world, and it's important to recognize the contributions of these ancient Persian scientists. So while algebra is undoubtedly an important contribution, let's not forget the numerous other advancements made in the Islamic world. Comments like these only serve to perpetuate harmful stereotypes and are frankly quite racist. 7:14
Minsky, Marvin. The Emotion Machine: Commonsense Thinking, Artificial Intelligence, and the Future of the Human Mind. Simon & Schuster, 2007. ISBN: 9780743276641. The text is also available online on Professor Minsky’s homepage. See ocw.mit.edu/6-868JF11 for more info and materials. Best wishes on your studies!
I don't always agree, but I like this guy. How his thoughts branch out, and he has some really good insights.
How do you not agree?
Like at the very end when explained why we need the electoral college. Then he wondered if “the new social networks” with their instant feed back “which is what Hitler got” are getting dangerous. He said it’s creeping up on us and one day someone might be able to get “fifty million people to do something dangerous.” Dangerous like storm the capitol? Goosebumps!
@@Diego38425 some of the things he dismisses became important, later (but though titled as such aren't his vision of AI, that's another intellectual stupidity being hyped ).
I have other concerns though. His reasoning towards spiritualistic worldviews are rather funny in face of the multiverse's fine tuning. A missing physical description for consciousness... like for .. dark matter?
Only because main religions messed things up, did and incited horrible deeds and never stopped people from religious madness? Should we allow us to derive from human failings that a misused concept is wrong in itself? Misinterpreting a bad application of an idea with the idea of spirit itself is not helpful.
Listen a little bit to John Butler, also here on YT, it's quite an opposite point of view. Balancing both views is an artform.
Minsky is a legend
What exactly do you not agree with? 😂
27:45 he looks so happy that someone laughed at his joke😂 Totally lit up! And that in turn - makes me happy. 🤗
2:12 ~ Sea of Mental Mysteries
11:30 ~ Ways to Think
31:35 ~ Six Layers Theory
51:30 ~ Self-Representation
1:17:00 ~ Number Forms
1:28:46 ~ Minsky Humor
1:30:10 ~ Cyborgs
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Goddamit those are some timestamps
Finally a class I can sit in , pretend i understand what’ he’s talking about , dose off, fall asleep, and come back tomorrow night and do it all
Again without worrying about taking a midterm on the subject 😂
This is called life 🤔😆
I am a lay person, and I am soaking this man up like a sponge. My brain is enlarging.
Mind*
If your brain enlarged you would then have nasty migraines at the least...tumours even and potential death.
I'm glad you are learning though!
@@nopenope1834 ha ha. Touche'
Where have you been, all your life?
@@kirstinstrand6292 me or Charles?
Very interesting ideas. I bumped the speed up to 1.5 x and it's awesome!
Jesse Adamson You are the man !! I was wondering about how can i enhance the quality of these marvelous lectures !! Thanks for the tip ! :)
Jesse Adamson I watch all videos at 1.5 until an Indian appears then 0.5
Thank you
The last 5 minutes Marvin talks about issues that we are experiencing now as a nation.
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Yes, it also explains the Muslim ban, doesn't it?
Yep, it’s the end of the world just like the Bible told us…. Every prophecy is coming to pass🙌🏼 Jesus is King and Lord😁
This dude is all over the place. I love it.
Wonder if there is study on effects of asmr..... this man owns it!
He makes so much sense , but I don’t have a clue what he’s saying, how does that work???
I’m totally captivated
His mouth is constantly making the weirdest noises lmao he is the king of asmr
I suggest it's because he exudes confidence at slow speed. He also invites participation by asking the audience questions and links his content to popular culture. It's not everyone's taste but in this fast-paced world his delivery is different - Ekhart Tolle and Ram Das come to mind. I think the students realise they have a special kind of genius addressing them. For example "Oh and that mushroom hallucinogen guy" what's he called... ?" (Terrence McKenna)
Words for thinking:
cognizance, consideration, curiosity, criticism, comparison, contemplation, creativity, complaint
That's just C words I scribbled
oi don't forget cunt. The endearing, australian way of course. Ex: u beautiful cunt. (Cuh x nt) Arabic in foundation, but nationless in the modern day.
"Number form" refers to a cognitive phenomenon known as synesthesia, where people experience numbers in a highly visual and spatial way. For those with "number form synesthesia," numbers are often perceived as having distinct shapes, colors, or positions in space. For example, someone might see the number 7 as always being in a particular location in their mind's eye, or they might perceive it as having a specific color.
The Persians (3500 years ago) and Indians (2000 years ago) knew the earth was around! Their mathematical approaches are documented. So much so that it is part of their religion. Zoroastrians put a Sour Orange (symbolizing earth) in water as part of their New Year celebrations.
As soon as it's part of the religion you can't test or question it.
@@greatwhiteflash1645 ummm! Great job applying your limited knowledge of medical Europe to different cultures you know nothing about! Well done!
RIP, Marvin.
He died? Oh no . . . Maybe the best generation of scientists.
I just think his lectures brings about intelligent conversation rare in our society today.
I really impressed with this mentality this man is a legend ❤
emotion is the sensation of our degree of fulfillment
If I ever go to MIT, I’m bringing of a bottle of water for the professors 😂
fr man he sounds like he's malfunctioning
Bottle is heavy, ma6be just a straw attached to wall at the same height of his mouth. all he has to do is walk and suck from the straw. The straw is connected to plumbing run from a reverse osmosis system to a retention tank. This would nsure the purest water.
@@Miles-mf9kg don’t forget about your brominator and mixed bed deionization system. Straw can just be a 65 mm ASTM B88 tank suction pipe with a foot valve. Ensuring the professor is properly quenched within milliseconds.
@joshuahoward3337 ahhh I could talk with you for awhile my friend
Speaking, not typing lolol
Minsky as a researcher: 10/10
Minsky as ASMR: 10/10
Minsky as a historian and sociologist: *tips fedora* /10
How about as a lethorio?
I am currently enjoying the video as I do my office work. ☺
I love these lectures here, i can get stoned and have a beer in class
The ideas presented in Marvin Minsky’s book “The Society of Mind” are further developed in “Neurocluster Brain Model” which analyses the processes in the brain from the point of view of the computer science.
The brain is a massively parallel computing machine which means that different areas of the brain process the information independently from each other.
Neurocluster Brain Model shows how independent massively parallel information processing explains the underlying mechanism of previously unexplainable phenomena such as sleepwalking, dissociative identity disorder (a.k.a. multiple personality disorder), hypnosis, etc.
Whatever the sense of self maybe it is directly related to the sum total of our experiences and our memories of them. A person with advanced Alzheimer’s disease is often left with no sense of self. No memory, no identity.
Alzheimer's happens because tragedy occurs when one's sense of identity is destroyed, unless genetics causes the disease. IMHO.
Unless one can understand why the experiences happened one still have no identity.
They just live in a parallel dream world and there is no proof that this one isn’t as real as ours
Someone told me one time love is a decision not an emotion.
Well that person was trying to sound insightful or smart by saying some different but nonetheless he is wrong.
@@LungaMasilela nah this makes sense. Love is being willing to make sacrifices for someone you care about. It is by no means an emotion or feeling you have towards a person.
@@Rio-mf7dx Wrong. Love by definition is a intense feeling of deep affection to someone or something. I may love someone however I take the decision if I want to ask her out i.e act on my feelings of her.
@@LungaMasilela What you describe is lust and attraction.
@@Rio-mf7dx No it's not what I described is what love is in it's purest form. I sense you are a romantic and you wanna make love more than what it is when it's not. Love is a word we made to describe a feeling not a action
Yes, we are physical and spiritual beings. Great lecture. Thank you ✝️
- but Marvin is! As well as a great lecturer. Thanks MiT
I am soaking this man up like a sponge. My brain is enlarging.
To had seen the look on Melvin Minsky face when L Ron Hubbard told him, he didn't have time to go through the procedure himself would be absolutely priceless. 😅
The ‘self’ is adopted by me. It resides inside my physical body. While my physical body grows, the self nourishes and informs the physical body about unities that are occurring while I grow. I imagine the self as absolutely still, deeply quiet and a none actor that is residing in me. I’m not sure a question of love can be answered by my association with the ‘self’ as I know it. However, this old fellow is about to comment on this question of love in relationship to the self. I’ll edit this comment by adding an afterword after I’ve listened. An Afterword: I gather that the professor is saying he loves a world that is mathematical, and only things mathematically verifiable are worthy of his time and energy. That is his love and naught else. I’ll go along with everything but the part about “naught else”. I wonder what grade he would give my summary of his lecture?
watching this on Valentine's day-my birthday! :)
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He confused some facts about von Neumann, who was born in a Jewish family in Hungary, not in Romania or Bulgaria. Prof. Minsky probably took Budapest for Bucharest. And I can't really see how any of these three countries is 'next to the Baltic'... Well, great lecture anyway.
Many historical errors. But that's not why we listen to him. 🙂
1:42:20
even in 2011 Professor Minsky could sense the trend
Around 1:20:00, Minsky is talking about Richard Dawkins in response to a question about memes. Then at 1:24:40 or so, Minsky pokes Dawkins a bit by saying Dawkin's idea is quaint next to all the stuff we've learned about genetics since then. Both statements show Minsky doesn't remember what "The Selfish Gene" was about. I believe the section on Memes is just one chapter, late in the book.
The vast majority of the book is about genes, the hard science that Minsky seemed to imply Dawkins was not informed on. The title of the book is also the main idea of the book: that the unit of selective pressure is the gene, not the entire genome (the conventional view). Often times the two viewpoints comport, but Dawkin's gives some examples showing where the gene-centric view diverges from the whole genome view, and how it explains some results that the conventional view has difficulty explaining.
His claim that religious people "don't want to go there" with regards to whom created God, creates an interesting paradox within his own atheistic line of belief. I wonder if he ever considered who, whom or what produced/created the elements necessary to form the universe or universes in the first place? And how long has that been going on? Our minds can't comprehend nothingness, so based on our experience, there must have always been something. Belief in an eternal God is really not much different than believing in an eternal universe. You either choose to believe that their is an eternal mind behind our existence, or you choose to believe that some unknowable eternal force is responsible. It's pretty mind blowing when you start to go down this path.
The usual (and sensible) stance is that asking questions that inevitably recursively generate new questions (like who created the creator) is a waste of time/energy.
"We're never gonna get two thirds. It's the end of America" (talking about Congress introducing any new amendments to the Constitution in the Social Media era) and he said that years ago before Trump and the effect of Social Media in the 2016 elections. He must be smiling in his grave or in whatever alternate reality he's now. HE WAS SPOT ON RIGHT.
I guess he’s technically not dead.. he’s at alcor. Just waiting for technology to develop just a bit more.
@@pogger4649 alcor?
@@elamaru9355 “alcor life extension foundation”. Cryogenic freezing shortly after death in the hopes that one day we will be able to clone, bring back, etc dead people, or something like that.
@@djtjpain oh i didnt know this still exists,i thought it had become obvious it doesnt work coz Unless they can soon revive ,heal and rejuvenate one they offer nothing exceptional Is it W,Disney who did it too?
@@elamaru9355 I’ve heard that he did yeah, not 100% sure. And yeah it seems weird to me but I guess if you have the money, might as well. You’re dead either way lol frozen or not
I appreciate the conversation leading to better understanding, such talk there's very little of.
Great lecture! Do not be misguided by the title though, it has nothing to do with falling in love xD
I love when he says the bit about people criticizing him cuz he proposed to many things because it elevates the mere idea above the evidence for the soundess of the idea. At least in a scientific sense, it seems valid to me(please correct any error in my thinking) to criticize someones opus if it only contains ideas. as long as they‘re not shown in any scientific sense to be more than plausible, in that sense they are useless as real explainations. this doesn’t mean the ideas aren‘t worth considering. any way forgot where Ibstarzed
We are a spirit we have a soul ( mind will and emotions ) and live in a body
Mind/ego/personality is not the soul.
Amen 🙏
soul (consciousness) is a desire - a will to receive fulfillment
Free will is not an industry you are under control yourself mr professor
@@earthlingT there is something more radical behind all this. School industry, the medical industry, the health industry, it's all in the corruption. I have just found out through one of Jordan Peterson lectures the genocide is apparent. We have proof.
@@earthlingT thank you for your reply.
The claim MM makes at 1:01:30 about probability matching is super surprising. How can the optimal strategy not be to always bet on the higher probability outcome?
Minsky is choking on the devil's wang.
Say you live in a northern region and have "optimized" your entire wardrobe just for warm summer weather. What might happen when winter comes? Will you survive winter with your summer optimized clothing? Likely not. Perhaps being optimal short term is not optimal for long term survival? What happened to all those that used your logic and went all in on Cathy Wood's ARK Innovation ETF once it had reputation for being best? Was it a good idea for them? Why not? Probability matching = diversification. The more optimized you are for current environment the more fragile you are when it changes. Nassim Taleb has a book called "Antifragile" about these concepts applied to life and investing.
@@chrislesner2822 do you have the proof?
@@masteryehudi7031That this seemingly sub-optimal behavior exists after millions of years of evolution - how do you explain it?
You wanted to know why so I shared with you the best available most sensible explanation. If you doubt that explanation better you do your own research and share with us here your own best explanation. Be sure to bring "proof".
@@chrislesner2822 lol you're an angry person.
what you say sounds vaguely plausible.
i guess i was interested in the proof that Minsky attributes to Solomonoff. trigger warning: it's still surprising to me 3 years later
1:45:20 logic can't make analogies. Perfect ending
Getting my pHD soon! Theoretically!
Perfect ASMR for sleep
Ty
Is this a misleading title, or am I simply "simple"? 40 minutes in and nothing about the subject title. He's all over the place, but imho not anything about "love".
No you aren't. I was just thinking that this guy is all over the place.
maybe it's the name of the book's chapter
I think 'falling in love' was just a place holder for 'feelings' in general, which he touched on in connection to how the brain works. One slide read something in the lines of...'Is emotional and intellectual thinking really are that different?'
great lecture I hear how
you are thinking
I think I found the limit of my mind: so many people say how awesome this lecture is but the first 30 minutes of it is just a bunch of disconnected facts. I am reaching the first hour and I still dont get what is the point of the lecture. Besides of me being dumb, what I am missing?
„There are lot‘s of thibgs that don‘t into newtons laws these days“ As a rebuttal for psychologists not to be liky physicists is the best example for how precisely physics as a field evolved precisely because they didn‘t stick to what was before them. I‘m so torn with this guy because he‘s very nice to listen two but (at least these first two lectures) are so little about his theories and more about how ithers where wrong projected onto entire fields. And he used his explainations as a reason to discretit, which is a bit absurd because in the end on all things empirical one may or may not be right. He confuses frameworks of thinking with results of empiricism and it‘s obvious (and good for science as a whole) that many scientiest do studies that end up in a dead end. It‘s better when out there than when not.
Its so hard to make out what the questions are ; gets tiresome to guess from the answers as to what has been the question in the first place.
Attend the lecture then. Don’t complain about free education, be better.
@@vp5633 Oh yeah, let me just go back in time 11 years, fucking moron.
Plato and Aristotle studied at Kemet university.
A well spoken speaker is an industry, so true.
When speaking on consciousness, Marvin stated that consciousness is sometime meaning that you remember it. I consider consciousness is simple being aware of what you about to do and aware of what you have done. Your thoughts?
love is a vibration.
This man's class probably has the lowest pass rates, he's so relaxing he probably puts everyone to sleep
I'm going to disagree with most people here. These lectures are of abysmal quality. It's just the ramblings of a highly opinionated man past his prime and with a superiority complex, with absolutely no structure.
I highly recommend them as a sleep aid though.
Thanks, that's the conclusion I've already come to. After only 1 lecture! lol
Pretty much the impression I'm getting. The guy is clearly obsessing about some life-long grudges of his own, has a big ego, finds himself very entertaining and smart, and is fond of just rambling on and on about episodes from his past (mostly names of "famous" people he interacted with).. like many old people do. Add to it that he was dead wrong about the prospects of neural networks success. Add to it his associations with people like Gates and Epstein. Not a very likable character at all. Seems like the most joy he has in deriding others.
You're entitled to your opinions.
My inner little voices like this subject.
Lorenz has a rather questionable history involving the Nazis, but it doesn't appear to have contaminated his work.
Psychology isn't the only "social" science with physics envy; economics has a really bad case. There's an interesting phenomenon, that a good way to learn a subject is to teach it, but if you're a real expert on a topic, it can be hard to teach it to beginners because you know it too well, and can't remember what it was like not to understand it thoroughly. Mathematicians seem particularly prone to it. ("It will be immediately obvious to the reader...."; no, it bloody isn't, that's why I'm reading this book.)
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Stephan Pinker calls the phenomenon you describe the "curse of knowledge" and uses it to explain why so many experts are terrible communicators to non experts. Having patience raising children and dealing with other ignorant people similarly is helped when you are able to see the world from their unknowing point of view - why they do what they do becomes predictable and compassion replaces anger.
I love this guy!
48:00 1. first you dont know if the mind is creating thought or receiving thoughts ..( like a radio ) why can i speak other languages in dreams ? etc... 2. when Lord Ganesh Came to me , ( when i was awake) i had no CLUE who Lord Ganesh was ... so you theory is flawed , in major ways
This guy knows everything! How come he knows everything?
He does not know everything and neither he should. To be honest his knowledge on anything other than AI, programming, maths is very superficial. Do not get me wrong a guy Marvin does not have time to know that Romania is nowhere near Baltics.
@@TheRocknrollmaniac And that ethics is useless, that should have set all the alarms with red lights blinking. Try no ethics to get rid of Nazis. Nope.
Is this a class for humans, or robots?
This was a man who did believe in robots so all who believe in him could be one!
This is the secret place in youtube, where ive found a sleep aid, that works every singke time. Haha.
47:08 I'm not sure if he is trying to argue that people don't have free will. it is unclear to me.
My argument is that we do have free will. However, we do NOT have free reign over reality. We can only do what our computer computes us to do. We have free will within the confines and limits of how we process information. In other words, we are stuck inside a box. Yet, however, our will is free to roam anywhere within the confines of that box.
Overall, my conclusion is that we have free will, but we do NOT have free reign over reality. We can't jump outside of the processing capabilities of our individual self. There are limits! People often push these limits. Those are people who go above and beyond. Like a person who climb mount Everest. That person challenges their will and perceived sense capacities and limitations. However, there are still undeniable limits. We are all bound to operating within the confines of our reality.
We have free will, but we do not have free reign over reality.
Also, consider if we did not have free will? Wouldn't there be far less discrepancies in our lives?
an example of "free reign over reality" would be agent smith from the matrix. he seemed obsessed with the pursuit of getting outside of his operating capabilities. He was unable to accept the limits. He did not want to accept that he can only do what his computer computes him to do. He wanted to get out of the matrix. and, at one point he actually succeeded. But, his free reign over reality didn't last long, and debatably, it was not extensive to outer space. His reign over reality was still confined to earth. still, he was not able to make free reign over infinity.
mind calculates how to be fulfilled
Came her to sleep in class but, I’m needing a need pen and note pad because I need to pass this class
Chapter 3
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I’m 40 minutes in and I’m still wondering what this presentation has to do with love 😅
resources:
[1] Aristotles rhetoric
What does this have to do with falling in love?
this teacher is dope!
Delightful lecture from a tolerably arrogant zombie!
Charming absent minded professor.
13:05 heaven
Fascinating
thanks 🤍❤️
Is the woman who makes those cool theories-questions married?
+Neatu Ovidiu Not sure--but I'm not! ; )
Hi Max, I'll be in internet range for at least a few hours. Call anytime.
If you guys decide to marry please invite me to the wedding. Thanks!
How did it go? :D
Do you have a 3 year old now?
Lol just foaming out the mouth listening and watching this
funny guy...he knows it all
1:41:45
Love? Another epigenetic control mechanism !
1:42: 56. It easier than that. Just say that a poll has been taken and the majority of voters want Joe Biden to be president and presto, nothing more required if you have the media in your pocket.
22:12 whale song. Exactly as I’ve said for years. We are demanding travel to mars, sending out advertisements and maps to meet and encourage aliens and cannot even communicate with dogs ! Yes we eat even our best friends but still after thousands of years cannot speak their language.
The comments reflect the low intelligence of the general person. I would give a lot to attend some of this man’s lectures
Explain the evolutionary advantage of schizophrenia.
Full schizophrenia may be a malady but having that trait in small amounts may offer evolutionary advantages. Stanford professor Robert Sapolsky's lectures on this topic may be useful to help you understand.
If all you see is what is real you are bounded and somewhat blinded by reality. If you can see things that are not real (as long as you do not lose control) suddenly you can see into potential realities and your creativity can be useful to discover things that do not exist.
The machine you are reading this message on and all the machines that moved it from my mind to yours are the products of millions of "crazy" ideas.
High intelligence often comes with small doses of madness.
The hypnotic devil 😈
So why does people believe and proclaim in the the self made man, when true there been so many around him helping him. Isn't that made up?
who has a theory of that?
Interesting, but too bad the topic wasn't covered.
Playback speed 1.25. Thank me later.
rip
Marvin Minky
Why does he defend Freud? I missed the point.
Freud's critics accused Freud of never having cured a patient when Freud never claimed to do so; it was random, and they had no basis for the accusation
Thanks. What criticism of AI does this then correspond to?
Max Hodges Are you paraphrasing Minsky's defense of Freud or is this your own take?
8:27
In the first lecture he gets more into it. The cure does not have anything to do with it. Freud did a great thing to emphasize our unconscious. He is not the first nor last, but he dedicated his life to learning about the unconscious so that is why Minsky mentions him. Minsky knows that our cognitive processes are not all consciois
anyone know what Robert Sawyer book he's talking about?
Wait his shirt tucked in
If the dark age swoops upon us, do we having omens to alert us in advance? Is this an inherent deficiency of humankind/
While I appreciate the humor in this video, I have to say that the idea that Muslims only discovered high school algebra is quite misguided. The ancient Persian civilization was home to some of the world's most brilliant minds, and their contributions to science and technology were unparalleled in their time. For instance, the Persian polymath Al-Khwarizmi is credited with inventing algebra itself, but he also made significant advances in trigonometry, astronomy, and geography.
In addition, Persian physician and philosopher Avicenna's work in medicine laid the foundation for modern medical practices, and his book "The Canon of Medicine" was used as a standard medical textbook in Europe for centuries. Persian scientist and mathematician Omar Khayyam was also a pioneer in algebra and geometry, and he made significant contributions to the study of astronomy and the solar calendar.
These are just a few examples of the immense scientific progress made in the Islamic world, and it's important to recognize the contributions of these ancient Persian scientists. So while algebra is undoubtedly an important contribution, let's not forget the numerous other advancements made in the Islamic world. Comments like these only serve to perpetuate harmful stereotypes and are frankly quite racist. 7:14
use science for self and help others nit end life....
Are you part of the real internet or tjis subnet im only allowed to watch
any cool book on AI these days?
Shakespeare - not the best comedian :P
Wich book he explain it ?!
Minsky, Marvin. The Emotion Machine: Commonsense Thinking, Artificial Intelligence, and the Future of the Human Mind. Simon & Schuster, 2007. ISBN: 9780743276641. The text is also available online on Professor Minsky’s homepage. See ocw.mit.edu/6-868JF11 for more info and materials. Best wishes on your studies!