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I have EAP, the only useful feature I've found is the lane changing which is really nice unless you're in traffic, then it's a bit too conservative. Aggressive drivers following closely behind cars will prevent you from changing lanes, and the car brakes hard or jerks back into the land if any cars are even moderately close. Self parking hardly ever works, maybe 1/10 times I get the option to use it. My driveway is too steep to use summon on if I want to shift my car, and the app takes forever to start summoning so I've only found one situation where it was marginally helpful. I backed closer to a charger with my hitch bike rack. Smart summon is a gimmick in my opinion, as it's really slow and I don't trust it in a parking lot. Just my two cents!
Thanks for the feedback. I've experienced the same challenges with auto lane change. Unfortunately, can't really test out the capabilities of the other EAP features.
Super helpful, I am glad I read your comment. EAP would be highly limited where I live (Greater Toronto Area), our 401 highway is the busiest highway in North America and auto lane changes are going to be ineffective at best, Scary at the worse. Maybe I'll wait another year so two for the upgrade.
For as many months that Tesla hasn't supplied you with the all the features offered when you first purchased EAP they should add at no cost FSD for those same amount of month's! Why pay for something you never got and have to wait (it's been almost 4 month's now) for them to release all the features you paid for and had to drive your vehicle without them, just saying...
I hope we're both wrong because I'm waiting to purchase a MSP but I won't until Tesla replaces the functionality of the USS. Looks like we'll all be waiting for some time...
A person with neck troubles will love the Auto lane change feature(no more looking for blind spots and twisting neck uncomfortably in the process). It is sad that the RADAR and ultrasonic sensors are removed from an already lacking set of virtual sensors(low res cameras with insufficient angle of view). I feel it was done to improve cost margin and to reduce supply chain issues than anything else. We need intelligent sensors not commodity cameras adapted for machine vision, to make FSD a reality.
It would hopefully come down overtime. And some features would shift to basic. Summon will be the one I’d want most but they are still adjusting it for Tesla Vision cars. May be a long time before I’d consider the upgrade
Thank you. I'm a new Tesla owner and ordered a LR Model Y a day after the big price drop. I'm cautiously hopeful that the engineers can work out Tesla Vision with the available hardware on the new cars. Until then I decided to remove EAP from my order to save the $. Thanks for the overview. We take delivery in a couple weeks!
Congrats. I feel you made the right choice regarding EAP. It's not worth the added cost until they can confirm Tesla Vision will be able to replace the functionality in the ultrasonic sensors.
Funny how Tesla divided it into two tiers when they could have just made it a simple Yes or No. 6K for autopilot is even expensive for such an experimental program
Just got a 2023 Model 3, and I have to say I can't even begin to understand why regular summon is disabled. Smart summon, yea I get that, but the ability to move the car ten feet in a perfectly straight line has no earthly reason to need USS. Mind truly boggled.
My guess is Summon uses the sensors to determine if something is in the path of the vehicle out of camera view. Which begs the question, how is Tesla Vision going to replace this.
Yea, at one time I believe you could get FSD for $5K, and it's slowly gone up since that time. EAP will set you back $6K and FSD costs $12K. You can do a monthly subscription for FSD which will cost you $99/month if you have EAP or $199/month if you don't.
I have EAP and I use it daily. It definitely has it quirks, but when it works it takes some stress out of my day. I also use the summon feature to move the car in and out of the garage. My auto park rarely ever works. I actually didn’t realize it until 2 months into ownership that it offered auto park 😂
Since Tesla got rid of radar, self driving has got worse with an increasing number of accidents involving motorcycles, bicycles and pedestrians. Consumer Reports now places Tesla's SD as seventh with Ford's BlueCruise as the best.
I loved using smart summon when I got the FSD subscription, I wish the (actually) smart summon update came out, I’d probably buy enhanced autopilot just for that tbh, as well as the other things of course, or at least subscribe to it more often.
Not sure how much I'd use Smart Summon, but I could see myself using Summon on a somewhat regular basis. Hoping I get the chance to find out what of these days.
what is the scenario you use it the most ? i used it once and it was a bit slow (in the parking slot) and people behind the car were honking a lot so I kinda scare and never use it again. Would love to hear how you use your
There is news floating around that HW4 is coming for Tesla Vision to work, so why take away functions from EAP for people who have the USS (ultra sonic sensors) or remove them from present new cars that only have HW3 with parts removed?? Somethings is not adding up here.
I ordered a MXP with the 15K FSD upgrade. Then I found out about the USS sensors removed. I had already put $33K down. Then I found out I was getting Hardware 3.0, and not even 4.0...on a 2023 $120K vehicle! Thankfully I was able to cancel, and have my $ back in my bank.
@@lindsaybrown7639 which is why I cancelled I wasn't about to buy a brand new HW3 vehicle when HW4 is the future. It was even already at the Memphis Tesla to pickup. Memphis Tesla is horrible. I barely had any communications via text. I was texting every day with no responses. I had to call the Tesla # which let's me talk to people in Georgia.
Own a 2022 Y LR. The front ultrasonic sensors did not work when I bought the car then worked for a while but once again are not working. They are needed for Park Assist which tells me how close I am to “stuff” at the front of my garage. I have a Service Center appointment to fix the problem. Tesla may not be putting the sensors in new cars but older cars have them and I believe they will still work - or why would they give me an appointment. Tesla disappoints concerning those sensors. Most cars have some form of Rear Cross Traffic Monitor which is very helpful when backing out of a space when your vision is blocked by adjacent vehicles BUT Tesla has never had that feature, a significant safety deficiency. Now without the ultrasonic sensors it looks like they will never have the feature. Very disappointing. My wife’s 2017 Honda CRV has the feature. It is about time Tesla took care of that safety need. Regarding Autopilot, EAP and FSD, one disadvantage is that they place the car in the center of your lane. When I am on the highway and alongside a big truck I will cheat and go off center in order to be safer. The system does not take that into account, so I rarely use anything other than Traffic Aware Cruise Control.
Appreciate the comment. If your car has the hardware for the USS, they will continue to work. Last I saw, they seemed to have backed away from their plans of disabling this via the software in the vehicle. My wife has a 2022 M3 LR, and her sensors work just fine. Hopefully they are able to get this fixed for you without too much inconvenience.
I still would like to see how bad the lack of USS is. If you could make a partially detailed review on it im sure not only would it help me but hundreds of others decide on whether to buy a tesla or wait on it.
From my understanding FSD will be $200 a month when it's finally out. Not sure why people don't just go that route instead of paying one large sum of money.
if they removed 3/5 they really should drop the price accordingly.. but yea.. ill buy basic now and upgrade at a later date if i feel the need for it.. TM3 owner here getting my second tesla car, TMY to begin with norway doesnt get smart summon anyways and our summon is bluetooth controlled.. i believe it uses wifi in the states? so the range is massively different.
Autopilot (Tesla's marketing for ADAS) -Lane tracing assist -Adaptive cruise control Enhanced Autopilot -Lane tracing assist -Adaptive cruise control -Auto lane-change -Auto-park -Navigate on AutoPilot (Tesla's name for lane suggestion) -Summon (Tesla's name for remote forward/backwards movement) -Smart summon (Tesla's name for remote smart exit assist) Autopilot is the standard suite available on all cars from the Honda Civic to the Bugatti Chiron. Enhanced autopilot is similar to the ADAS features available on most EVs aside from some.
If I knew back when I ordered what I know now, I probably would have waited. Don't get me wrong this is a great car, but not having basic parking sensors is a joke.
4:20 actually only North America and some euro countries have removed ultro sonic sensors. But in Australia and many asian countries the ultra sonic sensors remain by law on all 2023 models of tesla model 3 and Y. So we still have par asists summon and all features. I don't know why Tesla likes to take features away from Americans first lol, but they always have a hard time in Australia to remove features.
I am in the market for a new car. I can’t decide between a Tesla Model 3 or a Hyundai Sonata. The Sonatas highest trim, limited, is much less money and comes with a lot more luxury than the Tesla model 3. It also has adaptive cruise with a full 360 camera and lane keep assist plus Apple CarPlay which I’ve grown to enjoy in my current car. But, Tesla offers many more driving assist features if I pay for them and of course is an EV. Picking a new car feels impossible because they all offer their own benefits.
I can't speak to the Sonata, but I do enjoy my Model 3. I came from a vehicle that had Apple CarPlay, and it's really wasn't a big deal to me adjusting to Tesla's software. There's both advantages and disadvantages. BTW - I'm editing a video right now on my 6 month review of the M3, check back in a few days for that if it might help. Good luck.
yeah I oped to go with spending the 5k in costs in Australia (AUD nor USD not sure why its cheaper to get in Australia thatn the U.S.) But instead of getting this i decided on just geting the red colour and 19 inch alloys. Since my first model 3 will be picked up on the 18th of March I don't know what to expect over time or if I would want to use those features.
I have long highway drives from Maryland through Pennsylvania to Ohio to check on my Mom every couple of weeks in my ‘23 model Y - (love this amazing vehicle) - I use the standard autopilot frequently on these highways - but I have noticed a couple things that make me nervous; clearly the Tesla cameras do not pickup the speed limit signs very accurately, never when the sign is yellow with warning of curving roads ahead - the approach to highway toll gates is definitely not recognized and I must always disengage well ahead of any Highway toll booth areas (the PA turnpike is a cash cow for someone) - work-zone speed reductions signs are not recognized and the autopilot will happily send me 70 mph into a 50 mph work zone (not cool) *** also since the sw update last week my wipers come on for no reason while in autopilot and can only be turned off by disengaging autopilot (truly frustrating, but I am confident they will correct that soon)
The wiper thing is super annoying, and I do hope a fix is coming soon for that. Agree with your items here. I don't think AP really picks up the highway signs and rely's on GPS for speed limits. Thought I saw an update recently where it would be using those signs more, especially for construction zones, but I haven't really paid attention to how well that is working.
I have long highway drives from Maryland through Pennsylvania to Ohio to check on my Mom every couple of weeks in my ‘23 model Y - (love this amazing vehicle) - I use the standard autopilot frequently on these highways - but I have noticed a couple things that make me nervous; clearly the Tesla cameras do not pickup the speed limit signs very accurately, never when the sign is yellow with warning of curving roads ahead - the approach to highway toll gates is definitely not recognized and I must always disengage well ahead of any Highway toll booth areas (the PA turnpike is a cash cow for someone) - work-zone speed reductions signs are not recognized and the autopilot will happily send me 70 mph into a 50 mph work zone (not cool) *** also since the sw update last week my wipers come on for no reason while in autopilot and can only be turned off by disengaging autopilot (truly frustrating, but I am confident they will correct that soon)
Thank you for this video and differences. Well this is a no brainer for me what I would get. If I purchase a Tesla model Y vehicle in 2024, I would just get the basic Auto Pilot. Why, because I don't drive on the better marked Freeways where EAP functions - I only drive around towns being retired. I don't need the Summons or the Auto Park features since I have never done that kind of parking for a long long time. So spending 6000 dollars on something I would never get use of would be pointless to me. But it is very nice to know what EAP actually does. Seems some of the features are not available anyway because of no sensors on the vehicles. Take care.
Question I am trying to confirm if EAP is purchased that I would still have the option to purchase FSD for additional 9K (based on todays rates) seems like a no brainer but at the same time assume nothing 😂
@@mywifestesla I think he might be asking if the 9K additional upgrade cost will continue to be offered in the future. Might the upgrade option be withdrawn or its price changed for those who might change their minds and want to upgrade in the future?
I bought a used 2018 Model 3 with EAP, my car gives me the option on the app to use summon, do cars that came with the ultrasonic sensors still have access to the 3 features that the cars post 2022 don't?
Wish I saw this two weeks ago. Just picked up M3 with EAP because I do a lot of city driving with tons of parallel parking and thought this would be cool feature. Picked car up this week and all I can tell I got for that $6k is ability for car to navigate lane changes on highways which I'm very rarely on. Matter of fact not sure it works as I haven't been on highway with it yet. I guess you could say the other advantage is FSD would only cost me $99. But at this point, you're still not going to get any of the autopark/summon features. what would I even gain going fsd and paying another $99/month?
Thanks for the nice comment. If you subscribe to FSD right now, the only thing you'll pick up is the feature to stop on red light & stop signs. We subscribed to FSD on my wife's Tesla for a recent road trip and I played around with that briefly, and it doesn't work so well in my very limited test. I've found EAP to work well for me on the highway, provided I'm not in heavy traffic. Definitely not worth the $6K I paid for it. Hopefully one of these days FSD will show some improvements so we can leverage that $99 subscription.
As it stands today, none of the extra features work without USS. Lane change still requires driver intervention. Summon does not work. Phantom braking is a real thing. I tried the $200 subscription for 1 month and cancelled it. It is just not ready for mass consumer use.
Auto lane change can be configured to not require driver intervention. The other features, auto park, summon, and smart summon are all disabled if you don't have the sensors. Agree with you on phantom braking, it's very annoying.
I’m opting to SUBSCRIBE to FSD for the 3 or 4 long road trips a year. I subscribed on May 22nd and got enrolled in FSD beta. We took a 2K mile road trip and I believe it drove about 50% of the total distance. While it didn’t cause any accidents or get us into trouble there were times it performed like a 15 year-old student driver and other time it was PERFECT. So I’ll continue to “rent” it for $600 to $800/year.
I hear you. The one feature I find useful is auto lane change when on Autopilot or Navigate on Autopilot. Works well for me when you're not in rush hour traffic. Not saying that justifies the cost, because let's be honest, it doesn't.
I purchased a Model 3 with Enhanced Auto Pilot in Nov 2022. Should be, but Auto Park and Summon isn't available. Any word when this feature will be implemented?
How do you get the more detailed screen? We rented a tesla and it showed much more of the surrounding like vehicles coming the other way, vehicles at the intersection driving perpendicular, more detail of the road etc? Do you have to buy FSD for that or is it a function you have to enable somehow?
Yes. Adaptive cruise control will bring the vehicle to a stop if the car in front of you comes to a complete stop. Once this other vehicle starts moving again, your Tesla will move.
Does the auto pilot definitions change for 2017 Model S? I am getting confuse on them now cause some say it is different and some say it is as same as 2019 model
I'm not the expert here, but I believe there are some differences. The older Tesla's are running on older camera hardware which I believe is v2.0 and v2.5. Newer Tesla's are running on v3 and Tesla is just starting to roll our v4. Having said all that, my guess is there''s some limitations with the older hardware that could limit some of the functionality. Maybe someone else can chime in that knows better.
@@mywifestesla yeah, I figured that too. But Tesla seem to chabge their label too much or make it a little confusing unless you can physically see them and drive them to know.
Well it's there today if you have a M3 with the Ultrasonic Sensors. For those vehicles that have had the USS removed, I feel it's going to be a bit. My guess is another 6 months if we are lucky. I was just pushed a software update last night that had park assist enabled using Tesla Vision. It's better than having nothing, but still has a ways to go. They need to refine this before they start enabling these other features.
If you mean when does Tesla Vision roll out the functionality that will replace the USS, that's anyone's guess. We'll need that in order to use Summon.
That only works if you're first to the light or stop sign. The majority of the time I have a car in front of me so having enhanced auto pilot is basically the same as having full self driving if a car is in front of you.
@@mywifestesla keeping us all guessing I suppose. Southern Indiana here. Not a lot of people have pointed out the differences of autopilot, nice work. Hopefully the algo is good to you.
Man forget that cheap ass “enhanced “ BS , get the dang beta FSD. Pishhh , unless you enjoy almost sideswiping parked Amazon delivery trucks 🚚 or constantly having to actually pay attention like a caveman .
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This was exactly the video I needed. Straight to the point, no flashiness or filler. Just honest information. Great vid!
I have EAP, the only useful feature I've found is the lane changing which is really nice unless you're in traffic, then it's a bit too conservative. Aggressive drivers following closely behind cars will prevent you from changing lanes, and the car brakes hard or jerks back into the land if any cars are even moderately close. Self parking hardly ever works, maybe 1/10 times I get the option to use it. My driveway is too steep to use summon on if I want to shift my car, and the app takes forever to start summoning so I've only found one situation where it was marginally helpful. I backed closer to a charger with my hitch bike rack. Smart summon is a gimmick in my opinion, as it's really slow and I don't trust it in a parking lot. Just my two cents!
Thanks for the feedback. I've experienced the same challenges with auto lane change. Unfortunately, can't really test out the capabilities of the other EAP features.
Super helpful, I am glad I read your comment. EAP would be highly limited where I live (Greater Toronto Area), our 401 highway is the busiest highway in North America and auto lane changes are going to be ineffective at best, Scary at the worse. Maybe I'll wait another year so two for the upgrade.
For as many months that Tesla hasn't supplied you with the all the features offered when you first purchased EAP they should add at no cost FSD for those same amount of month's! Why pay for something you never got and have to wait (it's been almost 4 month's now) for them to release all the features you paid for and had to drive your vehicle without them, just saying...
Sounds fair to me. The longer this goes on, the less confident I am that these features will ever be available.
I hope we're both wrong because I'm waiting to purchase a MSP but I won't until Tesla replaces the functionality of the USS. Looks like we'll all be waiting for some time...
Why do u give a shit? He paid the money. Are you his mommy?
@@bigdougscommentary5719 FOAD
A person with neck troubles will love the Auto lane change feature(no more looking for blind spots and twisting neck uncomfortably in the process). It is sad that the RADAR and ultrasonic sensors are removed from an already lacking set of virtual sensors(low res cameras with insufficient angle of view). I feel it was done to improve cost margin and to reduce supply chain issues than anything else. We need intelligent sensors not commodity cameras adapted for machine vision, to make FSD a reality.
High res cameras and RADAR coming with the M3 HW4 refresh atleast.
Not worth $6k at this time. We need the vision to replace the sensors they took out.
Agreed!
Yeah, I can change lanes and exit. not worth the $6k to me.
It would hopefully come down overtime. And some features would shift to basic. Summon will be the one I’d want most but they are still adjusting it for Tesla Vision cars. May be a long time before I’d consider the upgrade
Agreed
I’m too drunk most of the time. I paid the $6k for the peace of mind and the safety, which is important to me.
@@bigbthunder9705if safety is important to you…stop drinking and driving. We would all appreciate it.
Thank you. I'm a new Tesla owner and ordered a LR Model Y a day after the big price drop. I'm cautiously hopeful that the engineers can work out Tesla Vision with the available hardware on the new cars. Until then I decided to remove EAP from my order to save the $. Thanks for the overview. We take delivery in a couple weeks!
Congrats. I feel you made the right choice regarding EAP. It's not worth the added cost until they can confirm Tesla Vision will be able to replace the functionality in the ultrasonic sensors.
I have my delivery next Thurstday. I am really hyped about it
Ya I didn’t add EAP either. My highway driving frequency is probably twice a month at most.
If you curious. You can buy/sub monthly fee for $199/month.
I tried for 1 month, its cool technology but its not for me.
Funny how Tesla divided it into two tiers when they could have just made it a simple Yes or No. 6K for autopilot is even expensive for such an experimental program
...not if you take a look at FSD beta that will come to your car eventually.
Just got a 2023 Model 3, and I have to say I can't even begin to understand why regular summon is disabled. Smart summon, yea I get that, but the ability to move the car ten feet in a perfectly straight line has no earthly reason to need USS. Mind truly boggled.
My guess is Summon uses the sensors to determine if something is in the path of the vehicle out of camera view. Which begs the question, how is Tesla Vision going to replace this.
Thanks for breaking this down. Those added features are definitely not worth $6000 to me. maybe $1000...
6 thousand dollars! Didnt they do a pre order years ago for full self driving for that price? I sure hope this isn't the replacement because oof.
Yea, at one time I believe you could get FSD for $5K, and it's slowly gone up since that time. EAP will set you back $6K and FSD costs $12K. You can do a monthly subscription for FSD which will cost you $99/month if you have EAP or $199/month if you don't.
I have EAP and I use it daily. It definitely has it quirks, but when it works it takes some stress out of my day. I also use the summon feature to move the car in and out of the garage. My auto park rarely ever works. I actually didn’t realize it until 2 months into ownership that it offered auto park 😂
Agree that it takes the stress out of a drive. Still waiting on my summon and auto park to be enabled. Maybe one of these days.
Since Tesla got rid of radar, self driving has got worse with an increasing number of accidents involving motorcycles, bicycles and pedestrians. Consumer Reports now places Tesla's SD as seventh with Ford's BlueCruise as the best.
Interesting, hadn't heard that.
Good content…. Can’t help but feel judged because of all the squinting 🤨
😂 That's the best comment yet.
I loved using smart summon when I got the FSD subscription, I wish the (actually) smart summon update came out, I’d probably buy enhanced autopilot just for that tbh, as well as the other things of course, or at least subscribe to it more often.
Not sure how much I'd use Smart Summon, but I could see myself using Summon on a somewhat regular basis. Hoping I get the chance to find out what of these days.
what is the scenario you use it the most ? i used it once and it was a bit slow (in the parking slot) and people behind the car were honking a lot so I kinda scare and never use it again. Would love to hear how you use your
I can switch lane my own , save the $6k
Awesome presentation, very clear and comprehensive 👏🏻
Thank you, appreciate it.
@@mywifestesla You’re welcome sir!
There is news floating around that HW4 is coming for Tesla Vision to work, so why take away functions from EAP for people who have the USS (ultra sonic sensors) or remove them from present new cars that only have HW3 with parts removed?? Somethings is not adding up here.
I've heard the same. Don't get it either.
In Aust cars are still made with USS (China made) and therefore EAP is available and working.
I ordered a MXP with the 15K FSD upgrade.
Then I found out about the USS sensors removed.
I had already put $33K down.
Then I found out I was getting Hardware 3.0, and not even 4.0...on a 2023 $120K vehicle!
Thankfully I was able to cancel, and have my $ back in my bank.
@@KevinFelker Hardware 4 can not be retro fitted as they have said already.
@@lindsaybrown7639 which is why I cancelled
I wasn't about to buy a brand new HW3 vehicle when HW4 is the future.
It was even already at the Memphis Tesla to pickup.
Memphis Tesla is horrible.
I barely had any communications via text.
I was texting every day with no responses.
I had to call the Tesla # which let's me talk to people in Georgia.
Awesome video, thanks for the breakdown!
Glad it was helpful!
Own a 2022 Y LR. The front ultrasonic sensors did not work when I bought the car then worked for a while but once again are not working. They are needed for Park Assist which tells me how close I am to “stuff” at the front of my garage. I have a Service Center appointment to fix the problem. Tesla may not be putting the sensors in new cars but older cars have them and I believe they will still work - or why would they give me an appointment.
Tesla disappoints concerning those sensors. Most cars have some form of Rear Cross Traffic Monitor which is very helpful when backing out of a space when your vision is blocked by adjacent vehicles BUT Tesla has never had that feature, a significant safety deficiency. Now without the ultrasonic sensors it looks like they will never have the feature. Very disappointing. My wife’s 2017 Honda CRV has the feature. It is about time Tesla took care of that safety need.
Regarding Autopilot, EAP and FSD, one disadvantage is that they place the car in the center of your lane. When I am on the highway and alongside a big truck I will cheat and go off center in order to be safer. The system does not take that into account, so I rarely use anything other than Traffic Aware Cruise Control.
Appreciate the comment. If your car has the hardware for the USS, they will continue to work. Last I saw, they seemed to have backed away from their plans of disabling this via the software in the vehicle. My wife has a 2022 M3 LR, and her sensors work just fine. Hopefully they are able to get this fixed for you without too much inconvenience.
Short and sweet. Straight to the point. Thanks for making this video
I thought the map looked familiar. Then I saw Madonna and realized you were literally driving right by my house on 96 😂
Small world.
Recent updates make Autopilot nag more than a nervous grandmother in the right seat.
I still would like to see how bad the lack of USS is. If you could make a partially detailed review on it im sure not only would it help me but hundreds of others decide on whether to buy a tesla or wait on it.
Deal. It's on my list to do.
From my understanding FSD will be $200 a month when it's finally out. Not sure why people don't just go that route instead of paying one large sum of money.
You can actually subscribe to it now. If you purchased EAP, you can subscribe for $99/month.
if they removed 3/5 they really should drop the price accordingly.. but yea.. ill buy basic now and upgrade at a later date if i feel the need for it.. TM3 owner here getting my second tesla car, TMY
to begin with norway doesnt get smart summon anyways and our summon is bluetooth controlled.. i believe it uses wifi in the states? so the range is massively different.
Yea agree!
I purchased one with EAP. In transit. I think I made the right choice as FSD isn’t really FSD at the moment.
Autopilot (Tesla's marketing for ADAS)
-Lane tracing assist
-Adaptive cruise control
Enhanced Autopilot
-Lane tracing assist
-Adaptive cruise control
-Auto lane-change
-Auto-park
-Navigate on AutoPilot (Tesla's name for lane suggestion)
-Summon (Tesla's name for remote forward/backwards movement)
-Smart summon (Tesla's name for remote smart exit assist)
Autopilot is the standard suite available on all cars from the Honda Civic to the Bugatti Chiron. Enhanced autopilot is similar to the ADAS features available on most EVs aside from some.
Still waiting on my auto-park, summon, and smart summon features to be delivered. Maybe one of these days.
In Switzerland, Enhanced Autopilot is CHF 3'700, which is around 4'000 US $
I went for it, will get my Model 3 in March.
Congrats!
thanks for video.. I guess I have to hold on until Tesla Vision works.
If I knew back when I ordered what I know now, I probably would have waited. Don't get me wrong this is a great car, but not having basic parking sensors is a joke.
4:20 actually only North America and some euro countries have removed ultro sonic sensors. But in Australia and many asian countries the ultra sonic sensors remain by law on all 2023 models of tesla model 3 and Y. So we still have par asists summon and all features. I don't know why Tesla likes to take features away from Americans first lol, but they always have a hard time in Australia to remove features.
Good callout. Thank you.
Thanks for this video I definitely understand now and know better to when i buy my car!
I am in the market for a new car. I can’t decide between a Tesla Model 3 or a Hyundai Sonata. The Sonatas highest trim, limited, is much less money and comes with a lot more luxury than the Tesla model 3. It also has adaptive cruise with a full 360 camera and lane keep assist plus Apple CarPlay which I’ve grown to enjoy in my current car.
But, Tesla offers many more driving assist features if I pay for them and of course is an EV.
Picking a new car feels impossible because they all offer their own benefits.
I can't speak to the Sonata, but I do enjoy my Model 3. I came from a vehicle that had Apple CarPlay, and it's really wasn't a big deal to me adjusting to Tesla's software. There's both advantages and disadvantages. BTW - I'm editing a video right now on my 6 month review of the M3, check back in a few days for that if it might help. Good luck.
yeah I oped to go with spending the 5k in costs in Australia (AUD nor USD not sure why its cheaper to get in Australia thatn the U.S.) But instead of getting this i decided on just geting the red colour and 19 inch alloys. Since my first model 3 will be picked up on the 18th of March I don't know what to expect over time or if I would want to use those features.
Probably a good decision. In hindsight, wish I would have saved the $6K or used it for another upgrade like you did.
I have long highway drives from Maryland through Pennsylvania to Ohio to check on my Mom every couple of weeks in my ‘23 model Y - (love this amazing vehicle) - I use the standard autopilot frequently on these highways - but I have noticed a couple things that make me nervous; clearly the Tesla cameras do not pickup the speed limit signs very accurately, never when the sign is yellow with warning of curving roads ahead - the approach to highway toll gates is definitely not recognized and I must always disengage well ahead of any Highway toll booth areas (the PA turnpike is a cash cow for someone) - work-zone speed reductions signs are not recognized and the autopilot will happily send me 70 mph into a 50 mph work zone (not cool) *** also since the sw update last week my wipers come on for no reason while in autopilot and can only be turned off by disengaging autopilot (truly frustrating, but I am confident they will correct that soon)
The wiper thing is super annoying, and I do hope a fix is coming soon for that. Agree with your items here. I don't think AP really picks up the highway signs and rely's on GPS for speed limits. Thought I saw an update recently where it would be using those signs more, especially for construction zones, but I haven't really paid attention to how well that is working.
I have long highway drives from Maryland through Pennsylvania to Ohio to check on my Mom every couple of weeks in my ‘23 model Y - (love this amazing vehicle) - I use the standard autopilot frequently on these highways - but I have noticed a couple things that make me nervous; clearly the Tesla cameras do not pickup the speed limit signs very accurately, never when the sign is yellow with warning of curving roads ahead - the approach to highway toll gates is definitely not recognized and I must always disengage well ahead of any Highway toll booth areas (the PA turnpike is a cash cow for someone) - work-zone speed reductions signs are not recognized and the autopilot will happily send me 70 mph into a 50 mph work zone (not cool) *** also since the sw update last week my wipers come on for no reason while in autopilot and can only be turned off by disengaging autopilot (truly frustrating, but I am confident they will correct that soon)
Thank you for this video and differences.
Well this is a no brainer for me what I would get. If I purchase a Tesla model Y vehicle in 2024, I would just get the basic Auto Pilot. Why, because I don't drive on the better marked Freeways where EAP functions - I only drive around towns being retired. I don't need the Summons or the Auto Park features since I have never done that kind of parking for a long long time. So spending 6000 dollars on something I would never get use of would be pointless to me.
But it is very nice to know what EAP actually does. Seems some of the features are not available anyway because of no sensors on the vehicles. Take care.
Agree. It really comes down to individual needs. If you’re not doing much highway driving, definitely not worth it.
Clear and to the point. Thanks!
Nice 👍 info
voltage glitching= FSD unlock
You're a good speaker so there is no need for those jump takes. Super distracting.
Appreciate the constructive feedback. Thanks.
I'm in the tesla website right now and all three of those things u mentioned are definitely part of the $6k package
I know. Still waiting for them.
Best explanation ever. Great voice. So explanatory for a foreigner.
Thank you! 😃
Question
I am trying to confirm if EAP is purchased that I would still have the option to purchase FSD for additional 9K (based on todays rates) seems like a no brainer but at the same time assume nothing 😂
Safe assumption. I can buy FSD for $9K or subscribe for $99/month.
@@mywifestesla I think he might be asking if the 9K additional upgrade cost will continue to be offered in the future. Might the upgrade option be withdrawn or its price changed for those who might change their minds and want to upgrade in the future?
I bought a used 2018 Model 3 with EAP, my car gives me the option on the app to use summon, do cars that came with the ultrasonic sensors still have access to the 3 features that the cars post 2022 don't?
They do. The only Tesla's impacted right now are the Model 3 and Y produced since Oct 2022 where that hardware was removed.
@@mywifestesla that's frustrating to people who bought new ones. I wonder when/how they'll rectify this.
Wish I saw this two weeks ago. Just picked up M3 with EAP because I do a lot of city driving with tons of parallel parking and thought this would be cool feature. Picked car up this week and all I can tell I got for that $6k is ability for car to navigate lane changes on highways which I'm very rarely on. Matter of fact not sure it works as I haven't been on highway with it yet. I guess you could say the other advantage is FSD would only cost me $99. But at this point, you're still not going to get any of the autopark/summon features. what would I even gain going fsd and paying another $99/month?
BTW, probably best video I've seen on this subject so far. Nicely done.
Thanks for the nice comment. If you subscribe to FSD right now, the only thing you'll pick up is the feature to stop on red light & stop signs. We subscribed to FSD on my wife's Tesla for a recent road trip and I played around with that briefly, and it doesn't work so well in my very limited test.
I've found EAP to work well for me on the highway, provided I'm not in heavy traffic. Definitely not worth the $6K I paid for it. Hopefully one of these days FSD will show some improvements so we can leverage that $99 subscription.
TY for the video
Well done.
Appreciate it Michael.
Yeah... difference between a stupidity and a bigger stupidity which it all means this question: how do you want to pass away? 😏
When ordering enhanced auto pilot why are they charging $6000
Very helpful, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
As it stands today, none of the extra features work without USS. Lane change still requires driver intervention. Summon does not work. Phantom braking is a real thing. I tried the $200 subscription for 1 month and cancelled it. It is just not ready for mass consumer use.
Auto lane change can be configured to not require driver intervention. The other features, auto park, summon, and smart summon are all disabled if you don't have the sensors. Agree with you on phantom braking, it's very annoying.
I’m opting to SUBSCRIBE to FSD for the 3 or 4 long road trips a year. I subscribed on May 22nd and got enrolled in FSD beta. We took a 2K mile road trip and I believe it drove about 50% of the total distance. While it didn’t cause any accidents or get us into trouble there were times it performed like a 15 year-old student driver and other time it was PERFECT. So I’ll continue to “rent” it for $600 to $800/year.
Not a bad plan.
Picked up a used 2018 model s with enhanced auto pilot already installed so I basically got it for free.
I tried the monthly autopilot for $199/month just for 1month. Just to try
But Barely use any features on auto pilot that i paid.
Not worth it for me
I hear you. The one feature I find useful is auto lane change when on Autopilot or Navigate on Autopilot. Works well for me when you're not in rush hour traffic. Not saying that justifies the cost, because let's be honest, it doesn't.
I purchased a Model 3 with Enhanced Auto Pilot in Nov 2022. Should be, but Auto Park and Summon isn't available. Any word when this feature will be implemented?
I'm still patiently waiting, haven't heard a word.
How do you get the more detailed screen? We rented a tesla and it showed much more of the surrounding like vehicles coming the other way, vehicles at the intersection driving perpendicular, more detail of the road etc? Do you have to buy FSD for that or is it a function you have to enable somehow?
I think what you may be referring to is a setting in Autopilot that you can enable called FSD Visualization.
Thanks. Saving your $15k rn
That suspicious eyes 👀 though.
Does it stop and start the car with basic autopilot based on cruise control in traffic?
Yes. Adaptive cruise control will bring the vehicle to a stop if the car in front of you comes to a complete stop. Once this other vehicle starts moving again, your Tesla will move.
Does the auto pilot definitions change for 2017 Model S? I am getting confuse on them now cause some say it is different and some say it is as same as 2019 model
I'm not the expert here, but I believe there are some differences. The older Tesla's are running on older camera hardware which I believe is v2.0 and v2.5. Newer Tesla's are running on v3 and Tesla is just starting to roll our v4. Having said all that, my guess is there''s some limitations with the older hardware that could limit some of the functionality. Maybe someone else can chime in that knows better.
@@mywifestesla yeah, I figured that too. But Tesla seem to chabge their label too much or make it a little confusing unless you can physically see them and drive them to know.
You can also try is by subscribing to this feature for $200 a month
You can subscribe to FSD for $200/month but there is currently not an option to subscribe to EAP.
Do you know when auto park smart summon summon are coming to model 3
Well it's there today if you have a M3 with the Ultrasonic Sensors. For those vehicles that have had the USS removed, I feel it's going to be a bit. My guess is another 6 months if we are lucky. I was just pushed a software update last night that had park assist enabled using Tesla Vision. It's better than having nothing, but still has a ways to go. They need to refine this before they start enabling these other features.
When does the update for Summon come out?
If you mean when does Tesla Vision roll out the functionality that will replace the USS, that's anyone's guess. We'll need that in order to use Summon.
Why do you keep calling it otter pilot?
Must be that Michigan accent.
I like the stop sign and light coming to a full stop at the intersection. So far it works great.
That only works if you're first to the light or stop sign. The majority of the time I have a car in front of me so having enhanced auto pilot is basically the same as having full self driving if a car is in front of you.
That only works for FSD it is not in EAP.
@@lindsaybrown7639 I have EAP and my car stops and accelerates on it's own the same as FSD as long as a car is in front of me.
great video loved how you got straight to the point!
Bro, are you staring into the sun?
Dude, I'm in Michigan. There's no sun in the winter here, so not sure what the squinting is all about.
@@mywifestesla keeping us all guessing I suppose. Southern Indiana here. Not a lot of people have pointed out the differences of autopilot, nice work. Hopefully the algo is good to you.
I have FSD but don't benefit from it because I don't have USS ;(
Man forget that cheap ass “enhanced “ BS , get the dang beta FSD. Pishhh , unless you enjoy almost sideswiping parked Amazon delivery trucks 🚚 or constantly having to actually pay attention like a caveman .
One day Tesla will charge for “ enhanced tire air” and it’s cult
will pay for it 😂😂😂
Sign me up.
The difference?: how many pedestrian do you want to put at risk?
Lol. Stop it.
I just want to fully depend on selfdriving so that i can pull up to work asleep or no longer use uber when going out for drinks 🥹