I am an intermediate weekend warrior off road rider and I love my 2020 Xtrainer. It is an absolute tractor for hill climbs and anything technical. Impossible to stall in rain mode. I love the size and the linear power. Only downside is the suspension for whooped out open desert (not what it is intended for so no complaint) which there is a lot of where I live. I have my suspension getting tuned right now by Stillwell Performance. They have been tuning Xtrainers since their beginning and they said it will handle desert really well, but keep the factory plushness for the technical. Only power mod is a FMF Gnarly Pipe, and the appropriate jetting because I do ride at 5000 ft. I am not small either, 6' and 220 lb, so I do have a taller seat on it because it is a bit cramped when sitting for long downhills. I absolutely love the bike and cannot wait to get the suspension back.
@@krasiplovdiv after having the bike for a bit now the fuel capacity and range is a major down side. I have the 2.9 gal (11L) tank and will barely get 50 miles (80km) out of it. Caused me to get rid of the bike because I do some really long desert rides. Bike is great just not made for distance at all.
Excellent video guys considering a X Trainer being a shorter and increasingly older rider. Still like to challenge myself so looking to set my 500 exc for more adventure type riding but having the Beta for technical terrain. Nice to hear your views on both the Beta's has I've not managed to get a ride on either of them
Just got my 2022 X Trainer, I'm 5' 11" with a 32" inseam and I can hop on and balance it almost like a street bike. It's also very light and handles well. Still breaking in on dirt roads and a little on the street. No serious trail rides yet so can't comment on that but it's very manageable and fun.
I've been into MX/enduro for a long time and consider myself a pretty good rider. I love the 2022 beta 300 xtrainer it's a fantastic bike low maintenance and great gearing for technical riding vs the RR if you want to get into actual competition stuff.
Nice work boy's. Iam up on the central coast you should come for a blast up in the Watagans State Forest. I will be getting the 300rr standard. Once the coronavirus is gone. Ceep the video coming.
Been KTM for many years but have always had this 300 in the back of my head along with the Sherco. I love my 500 in just about any situation but also love jumping on my sons 250 TPI. I think I might just bite the bullet and order the 300 TPI but would really love a ride of the Beta 300 RR
I just picked up a Xtrainer and it's a really nice bike! A lot of people give it a hard time because of the suspension but personally for my type of riding the suspension is soft and it works out for me! I have noticed it has quite a bit less power then the 300rr but it works just perfect for what it is!!!
@@itsaRiot Do you know if the power is just restricted on the xtrainer, as it would have the same basic engine as the RR so in theory it could be opened up?
@Tony W ik that the head on 5he xtrainer has an XT stamped on it.. I believe it is lower compression ratio but don't quote me on it. I've ridden my buds 300rr and it' definitely has more top end but my xtrainer has significantly more low end!
200 is an incredible bike in my eyes. i've owned it for half a year now and i can run side by side with 300s on singletrack. The 200 is not just a stroked 125, but really a well put together bike with a brand new engine. and im 6ft 200 pounds and it will lug me around even in extreme-enduro tracks
You need a lowering link and run 120/80 18 tire in back. 5 ‘ 4 is really short for full size bikes so don’t be afraid to lower the bike. They will say some Bs about lowering links using the wrong geometry … they are not even experienced with lowering links. I am very much so… I use them riding very very hard enduro and blasting whoops in the sandy stuff. They work very good. @@eirikhustad
The rain map actually makes it less responsive, only way you can get more power hit is by changing the front pipe to the RR pipe and turning the power valve up. Still won't be the same as you'd have to get it tuned again
Good video 👍 So far, I'm lovin' my 20 XTrainer. Winter is just breaking here and can't wait to really put it to the test. Stay healthy guys ✌Subscribed 😬
@@SWTrailsAndWheels 95% of my riding is slow, tight, technical, woods riding, with a lot of obstacles. I really haven't had much "fast" riding to give you an honest opinion on it.
A question for Transmoto team, I raced Supermoto and superquad at a national / European level for more than 15 years, I'm 185cm and 110kg and I want to get into proper hard Enduro. I'm doing the XL Lagares circuit in Portugal on my yz's that are basically sm bikes w the original wheel set 21/19 or my wr 450 2 trac but the bikes aren't happy in that "ambient", from what I see lately in my circle of friends ktm is losing quality and I kidna have the feeling that now they only want to milk the name and make cfmoto moto thingys like that dukes 390 or pigmy Adv bikes for the Indian market... My question is, do you guys think that I should get the beta xtrainer or the RR? Every one says the RR but I look to the X trainer and I see such an easy bike to toss around, I haven't tested any yet.
I’m a little undecided on these 2 bikes dunno if I should go with a xtrainer because I am a beginner and a little afraid the 300rr might be to much power for me or just go ahead and go with the 300rr and don’t worry about having to upgrade later.
Thx great video! I want to choose a new bike: xtrainier 300 VS. RR250 I have 6.3 ft tall (190 cm), and i am a 2t beginner, riding style is single trail, lower speed Technical trail. i like xtrainer Flexible, and xtrainer is correct riding style for me, but i worried about 6.3 ft for xtrainer... >Is too tall for xtrainer? >or is RR250 ok for single trail, lower speed Technical trail?
You would also have to take into account the softer suspension on the Xtrainer, which would make it drop down more, obviously if it was your bike you'd adjust the preload to suite. Not sure if it has it on the front though
Just completed the Rubicon Trail on my new 2020 Xtrainer over the weekend. Never going back to my 300 XCW for such rides. It can't be beaten.
I am an intermediate weekend warrior off road rider and I love my 2020 Xtrainer. It is an absolute tractor for hill climbs and anything technical. Impossible to stall in rain mode. I love the size and the linear power. Only downside is the suspension for whooped out open desert (not what it is intended for so no complaint) which there is a lot of where I live. I have my suspension getting tuned right now by Stillwell Performance. They have been tuning Xtrainers since their beginning and they said it will handle desert really well, but keep the factory plushness for the technical. Only power mod is a FMF Gnarly Pipe, and the appropriate jetting because I do ride at 5000 ft. I am not small either, 6' and 220 lb, so I do have a taller seat on it because it is a bit cramped when sitting for long downhills. I absolutely love the bike and cannot wait to get the suspension back.
Hi! Please, tell me more about the fuel capacity and the range...
@@krasiplovdiv after having the bike for a bit now the fuel capacity and range is a major down side. I have the 2.9 gal (11L) tank and will barely get 50 miles (80km) out of it. Caused me to get rid of the bike because I do some really long desert rides. Bike is great just not made for distance at all.
@@xeuse51 the xtrainer?
One of the best reviews I've seen in comparing these 2 bikes. Nice job, thank you!
Awesome! Just ordered my xtrainer. Thanks for the great video
This video helped my decision making out. Thanks all the way from America
You've genuinely helped out with this review!! Thanks
Excellent video guys considering a X Trainer being a shorter and increasingly older rider. Still like to challenge myself so looking to set my 500 exc for more adventure type riding but having the Beta for technical terrain. Nice to hear your views on both the Beta's has I've not managed to get a ride on either of them
Just got my 2022 X Trainer, I'm 5' 11" with a 32" inseam and I can hop on and balance it almost like a street bike. It's also very light and handles well. Still breaking in on dirt roads and a little on the street. No serious trail rides yet so can't comment on that but it's very manageable and fun.
Nice review, guys.
I've been into MX/enduro for a long time and consider myself a pretty good rider. I love the 2022 beta 300 xtrainer it's a fantastic bike low maintenance and great gearing for technical riding vs the RR if you want to get into actual competition stuff.
Nice work boy's. Iam up on the central coast you should come for a blast up in the Watagans State Forest. I will be getting the 300rr standard. Once the coronavirus is gone. Ceep the video coming.
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Been KTM for many years but have always had this 300 in the back of my head along with the Sherco. I love my 500 in just about any situation but also love jumping on my sons 250 TPI. I think I might just bite the bullet and order the 300 TPI but would really love a ride of the Beta 300 RR
Great review! I have a '20 300 RR but maybe interested in getting an X trainer as well, do you feel like the entire chassis is scaled down in size?
awesome job guys, thnx!
I wonder how much a steering stabilizer would help the XTrainer feel more stable in the fast sections
Great review guys, thanks! 🤙
Well said boys!
Thanks that helped👍
A trials bike, marketed as an enduro bike, that rides like a mountain bike !!
👍lovin' mine so far!! ✌
I just picked up a Xtrainer and it's a really nice bike! A lot of people give it a hard time because of the suspension but personally for my type of riding the suspension is soft and it works out for me! I have noticed it has quite a bit less power then the 300rr but it works just perfect for what it is!!!
@@itsaRiot Do you know if the power is just restricted on the xtrainer, as it would have the same basic engine as the RR so in theory it could be opened up?
@Tony W ik that the head on 5he xtrainer has an XT stamped on it.. I believe it is lower compression ratio but don't quote me on it. I've ridden my buds 300rr and it' definitely has more top end but my xtrainer has significantly more low end!
@@itsaRiot Interesting, thanks for the info
I'm looking at doing a few hare sprints would the xtrainer be a better option for this
I'm 5'4 and don't know if I should get the trainer or the 200rr any thoughts on what I should get?
200 is an incredible bike in my eyes. i've owned it for half a year now and i can run side by side with 300s on singletrack. The 200 is not just a stroked 125, but really a well put together bike with a brand new engine. and im 6ft 200 pounds and it will lug me around even in extreme-enduro tracks
@@eirikhustad good to know.
You need a lowering link and run 120/80 18 tire in back. 5 ‘ 4 is really short for full size bikes so don’t be afraid to lower the bike. They will say some Bs about lowering links using the wrong geometry … they are not even experienced with lowering links. I am very much so… I use them riding very very hard enduro and blasting whoops in the sandy stuff. They work very good. @@eirikhustad
Great video
Could you not just use the rain map to create a similar power hit from the 300rr as with the trainer?
I think the expansion exhaust does not have the correct shape to deliver full power. So changing the exhaust could help unleash the power
The rain map actually makes it less responsive, only way you can get more power hit is by changing the front pipe to the RR pipe and turning the power valve up. Still won't be the same as you'd have to get it tuned again
Good video 👍 So far, I'm lovin' my 20 XTrainer. Winter is just breaking here and can't wait to really put it to the test. Stay healthy guys ✌Subscribed 😬
How is the high speed stability? Does the suspension feel planted?
@@SWTrailsAndWheels 95% of my riding is slow, tight, technical, woods riding, with a lot of obstacles. I really haven't had much "fast" riding to give you an honest opinion on it.
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A question for Transmoto team, I raced Supermoto and superquad at a national / European level for more than 15 years, I'm 185cm and 110kg and I want to get into proper hard Enduro.
I'm doing the XL Lagares circuit in Portugal on my yz's that are basically sm bikes w the original wheel set 21/19 or my wr 450 2 trac but the bikes aren't happy in that "ambient", from what I see lately in my circle of friends ktm is losing quality and I kidna have the feeling that now they only want to milk the name and make cfmoto moto thingys like that dukes 390 or pigmy Adv bikes for the Indian market...
My question is, do you guys think that I should get the beta xtrainer or the RR? Every one says the RR but I look to the X trainer and I see such an easy bike to toss around, I haven't tested any yet.
XTrainer or RRb for long 260 mile adventures on the highways?
Xtrainer is best for the majority of riders..
well done.
I’m a little undecided on these 2 bikes dunno if I should go with a xtrainer because I am a beginner and a little afraid the 300rr might be to much power for me or just go ahead and go with the 300rr and don’t worry about having to upgrade later.
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What happened to GasGas?
Got bought by KTM and is now a res KTM but the production machines and Plans were Sold to Rijeu and theyll continue to produce the ec models
Thx great video!
I want to choose a new bike: xtrainier 300 VS. RR250
I have 6.3 ft tall (190 cm), and i am a 2t beginner, riding style is single trail, lower speed Technical trail.
i like xtrainer Flexible, and xtrainer is correct riding style for me, but i worried about 6.3 ft for xtrainer...
>Is too tall for xtrainer?
>or is RR250 ok for single trail, lower speed Technical trail?
It was rainy, pobrecitos)))
your talking about less than an inch of seat height difference and and half an inch of foot peg height. that hardly makes a difference
It vill. Take your Bicycle and adjust the sadle 3/4 inch lower ;-) And go for a testride.
@@klasolofsson3559 from what i remember of this video the guy made it sound like it was much bigger difference than it really was
You would also have to take into account the softer suspension on the Xtrainer, which would make it drop down more, obviously if it was your bike you'd adjust the preload to suite. Not sure if it has it on the front though
30mm is 1.18inch and that heaps if you are 165cm tall like me.