Mike Lynch superyacht may have sunk after damage to sailing mast | Alina Trabattoni

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  • The sinking of a yacht that left tycoon Mike Lynch missing at sea could have been partially caused by damage to the vessel's mast, Alina Trabattoni tells #timesradio
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  • @ListenToTimesRadio
    @ListenToTimesRadio  21 день назад +3

    Listen to Times Radio for the latest updates www.thetimes.com/radio 📻

  • @simon__4489
    @simon__4489 23 дня назад +181

    "mast broke, unbalanced the boat" Seriously. If you've got no idea, say nothing. RIP those lost souls.

    • @mirandahotspring4019
      @mirandahotspring4019 23 дня назад +26

      Local reports suggest a waterspout. A yacht without a mast is probably more stable with less above deck mass!

    • @russ549
      @russ549 23 дня назад +9

      Right, cause the multi ton lead or iron keel would make sure it stays upright. Any sailor knows that!

    • @talbenavraham1478
      @talbenavraham1478 23 дня назад +15

      Do you expect a political activist to understand what she's reading on an autocue?
      Ships masts are always connected to the keel with earth straps in order to give protection against lightning.

    • @mirandahotspring4019
      @mirandahotspring4019 23 дня назад +8

      @@spookyaction8917 Not a chance. Do you know how many tons of metal are in the keel of a yacht that big?
      Bayesian measured 56.00 metres in length, with a max draft of 9.73 metres and a beam of 11.51 metres. She had a gross tonnage of 473 tonnes.
      This was no little boat!

    • @Threetwocharlie
      @Threetwocharlie 23 дня назад +3

      @@talbenavraham1478tu, I live and learn, respect

  • @patrikfloding7985
    @patrikfloding7985 23 дня назад +81

    "The boat rocked".. and? Sailing boats dont go down from "rocking". Can we have some serious reporting?

    • @jamieround2784
      @jamieround2784 23 дня назад

      If you believe the MSM narrative I have got a bridge I can sell you!!!

  • @CollinsShappell
    @CollinsShappell 23 дня назад +101

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      @CasonSearan 23 дня назад +3

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      @DavidMoore987 23 дня назад

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    • @CasonSearan
      @CasonSearan 23 дня назад

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      @CasonSearan 23 дня назад +1

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  • @rappingcommuter3148
    @rappingcommuter3148 23 дня назад +16

    His co-defendant dies a few days before, being hit by a car. Looks like he got the 'Anne Heche' style, clean up.

  • @livelystones7773
    @livelystones7773 22 дня назад +12

    So he got off free from the court case $9 billion richer 3 weeks ago before this ‘tragedy’ happened AND coincidentally his co-defendant from the same case was also just killed in a hit & run yesterday ??? Yeah sure.They used to say lightening doesn’t strike twice - except when you make powerful enemies

    • @issimondias
      @issimondias 19 дней назад +1

      Powerful enemies that can control the weather?

    • @livelystones7773
      @livelystones7773 19 дней назад

      @@issimondias look up directed energy weapons such as the DragonFire Laser.

    • @MariaM-up2he
      @MariaM-up2he 17 дней назад

      Not really it was a civil suit to come, HP was asking for 4B for damage. It was the criminal suit that got acquitted, not criminal responsibility but there was civil responsibility.

    • @MariaM-up2he
      @MariaM-up2he 17 дней назад +1

      @@issimondiasExactly! See what that storm a day before did on the Balearic Islands most specific the island of Menorca torrential rains destroyed the island. People read too much into it. They should check the weather!

    • @livelystones7773
      @livelystones7773 17 дней назад

      @@MariaM-up2he So what? They’re suddenly both d€ad now.

  • @tomhorvath6137
    @tomhorvath6137 23 дня назад +93

    That announcer does no know what she is talking about. A broken mast would not 'unbalance' the boat and cause it to sink. That boat was close to 400 tons and had 32+ feet of draft so it had a BIG keel. My guess is if it was lightning and did not ground properly then it could have caused an explosion causing a catastrophic hull breech and a very fast sinking. I have heard of lightning that caused keelbolts to explode on smaller boats ending up with a keel dropping off and the boat flipping, but doubt that would be the end result on a boat of this size. I doubt a waterspout would have caused this boat to sink.

    • @dap777754
      @dap777754 23 дня назад +11

      Well we shall see. I agree an unbalanced broken mast (!) would probably be a maritime first - never heard of that happening. But I do think a freak waterspout could have capsized her. If she was pointing in exactly the wrong direction when it hit. 32' draft - really? That's an exaggeration, right?

    • @djrigga
      @djrigga 23 дня назад +4

      I would think the bonding would be really up to scratch for the spec of mast and electrics and the keel yes that’s the size of what most Yatch lengths are doubt the bolts would melt the studs unless dissimilar metals and saltwater corroded the keel to hull joint but good old sikaflex should keep it together

    • @1960fusion
      @1960fusion 23 дня назад +7

      I agree, it would be hard to believe that a waterspout could capsize a ship that large! I think that there was an explosion and a catastrophic breech somewhere.

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +14

      I think she failed O Level physics😂

    • @timewa851
      @timewa851 23 дня назад +2

      I'm going with their paychecks bounced....... then stuff happened.

  • @creativeamerican8811
    @creativeamerican8811 23 дня назад +7

    Tornado I heard..? Now it’s lightning…? And at the same time his co-defendant was hit by a car and died.
    This is 100% a hit.

  • @wtxrailfan
    @wtxrailfan 23 дня назад +93

    The grim reaper doesn't differentiate between rich and poor.

    • @SteveeCee
      @SteveeCee 23 дня назад +9

      Is 'the Grime Reaper' one of those TV cleaning programmes?

    • @1960fusion
      @1960fusion 23 дня назад +1

      So True!

    • @Benergy7
      @Benergy7 23 дня назад +10

      But the news coverage certainly does!

    • @lorrainewhitehead9080
      @lorrainewhitehead9080 23 дня назад

      @@SteveeCee😂

    • @plumbertime
      @plumbertime 23 дня назад +6

      So him and his number 2 who just beat USA charges die within days, one run over, one in a tornado. Grim reaper must be american

  • @paulwood4142
    @paulwood4142 23 дня назад +7

    Mast lightning strike does not sink a boat. De-masting does not sink a boat. There is no balance issue unless the keel broke off which is unlikely. I can only assume port holes and hatches were open when the yacht heeled over in the strong wind and enough water came in to sink it.

    • @wakanda6754
      @wakanda6754 23 дня назад +3

      That is the most probable cause I read, everyone is blaming the mast.

    • @grondhero
      @grondhero 21 день назад

      There is balance issue when the keel is lifted; the center of gravity changes. The mast was higher than the sailboat was long, which could have caught more wind than normal. It was 5am, so not sure the likelihood of something being open.
      Having stated that, here's an updated video with AIS and time information:
      ruclips.net/video/yF5UduROOFY/видео.html

  • @navajojohn9448
    @navajojohn9448 23 дня назад +17

    Sailing masts are designed to get hit by lighting and are hit every day around the world without problems.

    • @carlosfranco1385
      @carlosfranco1385 21 день назад

      If the mast wasn't properly "grounded" to the sea, couldn't the lighting cause a massive whole, causing it sink quickly ?

    • @carlosfranco1385
      @carlosfranco1385 21 день назад

      As a sailor, I have alreaady heard of this sort of situation. Thanks.

  • @navajojohn9448
    @navajojohn9448 23 дня назад +14

    Such a fast sinking for such a large and modern sailboat at anchor. I can't wait to learn what actually happened instead of what the crystal ball experts are chatting about.

    • @TheAwillz
      @TheAwillz 23 дня назад

      google his case with Hewlett Packard (yes the printers copmpany) his codefedant in the case magically died in a car crash saturday too...

  • @ShakespeareCafe
    @ShakespeareCafe 23 дня назад +28

    It’s a water spout and storms have claimed the lives of many in the Med. in 255 BC the Roman fleet was caught in a storm off southern Sicily sinking 384 ships and 100,000 sailors. Google it. To claim a water spout as rare is a joke

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +8

      Nelson suffered the worst storm of his life near that area in December 1798 when evacuating the Neapolitan royal family from Naples to Palermo, fleeing from revolutionary Napoleonic troops. The King's infant son died of sea-sickness in the arms of Lady Hamilton, who was one of the only passengers to have remained strong, best of British and all that, kept up the spirits of the Neapolitans .

    • @frankthetank8050
      @frankthetank8050 23 дня назад +2

      So you do seriously compare 255 BCE rudimentary ships to present day state-of-the-art megayachts? That is a laughable 😂

    • @bwtawny
      @bwtawny 23 дня назад +2

      @@frankthetank8050 He was simply illustrating that the area is known for sudden storms. The fact that 200+ ancient ships were lost only shows how much better modern shipping is.

    • @toomignon
      @toomignon 23 дня назад +1

      @@frankthetank8050No, but they didn't have masts that broke, either, Most Roman ships were galleys. It is an interesting and relevant piece of historical information.

    • @frankthetank8050
      @frankthetank8050 22 дня назад

      @@toomignon ok that is true. I was only referring to the difference between a computer engineered modern vessel made of composite materials and alloys with a perfect CG, and a 255 BCE wooden vessel built using sand drawings

  • @geoffbrown8748
    @geoffbrown8748 23 дня назад +89

    Does anyone really believe the media anymore all the ahh ahh etc LISTEN!

    • @Mark-gu9ye
      @Mark-gu9ye 23 дня назад +16

      It makes me chuckle seeing how much damage they have done to their credibility 😄

    • @michaelb2388
      @michaelb2388 23 дня назад

      If you're posting messages you're part of the media

    • @Neil_MALTHUS
      @Neil_MALTHUS 23 дня назад +8

      Co-defendant in the trial also died (different circumstances)
      Lightning is always striking twice these days!!! ;)

    • @alexmarshall4331
      @alexmarshall4331 23 дня назад +1

      ABSOLUTELY

    • @ianbrown7089
      @ianbrown7089 23 дня назад

      The more this western media spin on this the more you know theres a Scam!

  • @richardhenshaw5660
    @richardhenshaw5660 23 дня назад +24

    These Squalls are common even in this country often referred to as a Storm in a Teacup, very fast moving strong and often short, mother nature at her worst.

    • @slipslider9048
      @slipslider9048 23 дня назад +3

      @@crhhh6045 , how would you go about rigging a yacht to sink? Explosives? What are you suggesting?

    • @zeitgeist909
      @zeitgeist909 23 дня назад +3

      oh - and also, his business partner also was killed 48 hours before this happened in a hit and run. hmm.

    • @slipslider9048
      @slipslider9048 22 дня назад

      @@crhhh6045 , Google "Project Stormfury".

  • @DJFAmenHeavy
    @DJFAmenHeavy 23 дня назад +44

    Stop calling him Bill Gates ffs 😂

    • @amandadavenport1994
      @amandadavenport1994 23 дня назад +3

      Wishful thinking perhaps!

    • @TruthBot1984
      @TruthBot1984 23 дня назад +4

      Poor bloke, what an insult.....

    • @michaelb2388
      @michaelb2388 23 дня назад +1

      But he's the British Bill Gates! 😂

    • @SirFluffyFluffton
      @SirFluffyFluffton 23 дня назад +6

      Bill Fence there you go that's not Bill gates... Hope you are now happy

    • @fish4fun84
      @fish4fun84 23 дня назад +1

      British bill gates lol, basically he was very rich but otherwise could have more in common with you.

  • @martinheath5947
    @martinheath5947 23 дня назад +53

    Hurricane, tornado, whirlpool, lightning strike, torpedo, drone strike, space laser, all natural events

    • @sumairagul5297
      @sumairagul5297 23 дня назад +4

      Drone strike?

    • @grondhero
      @grondhero 23 дня назад

      "Let's just make stuff up and put it on the internet!" - Martin, probably

    • @richiebrent1974
      @richiebrent1974 23 дня назад +2

      It was me. Don't tell 🤫

    • @bloodyblade916
      @bloodyblade916 23 дня назад +1

      Agreed something seems off

    • @zeitgeist909
      @zeitgeist909 23 дня назад +4

      dont forget that his business partner was killed by a hit and run 48 hours before this... hmmm.

  • @kenurquhart2061
    @kenurquhart2061 23 дня назад +2

    A mast does not keep a yacht upright that is the job of the keel. Possibly the boat heeled over in the tornado and the port poles were open

    • @marviwilson1853
      @marviwilson1853 22 дня назад

      A boat like that would be fully air conditioned. To do that you have to have the port holes closed.

  • @beatonthedonis
    @beatonthedonis 23 дня назад +10

    His co-defendant was killed on Saturday while out running, and the media are saying this was an accident.

    • @mvl6827
      @mvl6827 23 дня назад +3

      Yes I was thinking of that. A strange co-incidence.

    • @beatonthedonis
      @beatonthedonis 23 дня назад +2

      @@mvl6827 Ironically both were mathematicians and the boat was named after a famous statistician who could probably have worked out the probability of two colleagues and co-defendants dying on the same weekend of unnatural causes.

  • @PeterLorimer-ji5ut
    @PeterLorimer-ji5ut 22 дня назад +2

    I'm a lifetime sailor for six decades and I have experienced intense thunderstorms and have sailed in and around twelve waterspouts simultaneously, even.
    First about waterspouts: They are not really sea going tornados. I experienced them in quite calm weather (10 knots steady winds). Yes, they spiral like tornados but they are much lower energy. They'd sink a boat by filling it up with water not because of wind.
    Lightning: Masts are grounded to plates in the hull. If the cable joining the mast to the plate is inadequate (or if the plate is covered) it will fail and the lightning will find a new path through the boat. When lightning does that, it blows a row of perforations along the waterline that follows the sinusoidal pattern of the sea's wave when it struck. The boat will sink but not quickly.
    There is a phenomenon that no one is mentioning that occurs with certain violent thunderstorm fronts. Those are called Microbursts. Sudden downblasts of over 100 mph come from above and can catch a tall rig like that (even without sails) and knock it flat on the water in a few seconds. If the design is poor and the companionway hatch leading down below fills with water when the boat is laying on it's side, a sailboat will fill up and sink like a rock in seconds. Microbursts are notorious and rare killers. They even crash commercial airliners now and again and they still defy accurate prediction. 1:56 1:56

  • @Caocao8888
    @Caocao8888 23 дня назад +8

    There are very powerful winds in the region of Southern France, the Mediterranean, Sicily, and North Africa. I was a passenger in a private jet departing Marseille, and just a few minutes after take-off, the plane dropped suddenly and violently. I looked at the passenger sitting across the aisle, and he was white as a sheet. That was my introduction to the Mistral wind.

    • @tonidewonderful4187
      @tonidewonderful4187 23 дня назад

      this is true but how many planes been sent to ground by it, the answer commercial airliners = zero.

  • @everydaybiker
    @everydaybiker 23 дня назад +5

    That's not how boats work. A sail boat without a mast is harder to knock down one that has a mast.

  • @freegaza7452
    @freegaza7452 23 дня назад +20

    Somethings sounds really really fishy

  • @manmadegods021
    @manmadegods021 23 дня назад +23

    Someone describing the accident who obviously knows nothing about sailing

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +2

      True, but she was doing the more important thing of filling empty air-time, that's all that matters😂

    • @LL-LLLL9
      @LL-LLLL9 22 дня назад +1

      Most journalists know f"all about the topics they're reporting on 😂. They can't even write proper English, e.g. "The boat sunk." Please!

    • @user-hw7ny8ts3z
      @user-hw7ny8ts3z 22 дня назад

      ​@@LL-LLLL9Yes, teacher - leave the kids alone! Lol!

    • @dfuher968
      @dfuher968 22 дня назад

      I know nothing about sailing, and I found this "reporting" weird. Thanks for confirming my suspicion. And I agree, that most journalists know nothing about the topics, theyre reporting on, Im an accountant, and I feel physically hurt 99.9% of the time, when reading/hearing reporting on economy/taxes, coz its at best completely misunderstood and often just plain false.

  • @thegoodthebadandtheugly579
    @thegoodthebadandtheugly579 23 дня назад +5

    Maybe don’t have a super yacht with a huge mast? Especially when some people don’t have anything to eat or where to live..

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 21 день назад

      Are there no charities that will help you out with food and shelter ?

  • @spursphil81
    @spursphil81 23 дня назад +27

    As the saying goes…what’s the point of being the richest in the graveyard.

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +6

      You get the fanciest monument?

    • @gh8447
      @gh8447 23 дня назад +5

      What's the point being the poorest alive on the street?

    • @LL-LLLL9
      @LL-LLLL9 22 дня назад +2

      ​@@gh8447 Being alive is a bonus though, so... 😅.

    • @user-hw7ny8ts3z
      @user-hw7ny8ts3z 22 дня назад +1

      ​@@LL-LLLL9Don't worry, be happy!

    • @ktall6749
      @ktall6749 22 дня назад

      We all meet our maker. I doubt he has much interest in money.

  • @aarons7975
    @aarons7975 23 дня назад +2

    Ok, someone on that yacht must have had some dirt on Hillary.

  • @nicksmith4361
    @nicksmith4361 23 дня назад +7

    Mines attached to the hull by disgruntled parties. Another person involved killed out running a few days before. Someone not happy with the outcome of legal proceedings.

    • @hillaryc.3727
      @hillaryc.3727 21 день назад

      The hull is resting on the seabed completely intact. No holes. No damage from “mines”. Give it a rest with the conspiracy garbage.

  • @exsubmariner
    @exsubmariner 23 дня назад +26

    This woman speculating doesn't know anything about the sea

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +9

      She does know how to fill empty air time, which is the most important thing

    • @talbenavraham1478
      @talbenavraham1478 23 дня назад

      Dei hire.

    • @CS_247
      @CS_247 23 дня назад

      She doesn't know much of anything. 😂

    • @TheAwillz
      @TheAwillz 23 дня назад

      its because he was blown up.
      his codefendent magically died saturday 2 in seperate incident

    • @user-hw7ny8ts3z
      @user-hw7ny8ts3z 22 дня назад

      She was just reporting!

  • @toptastic66
    @toptastic66 23 дня назад +4

    When lighting travels down a yacht mast it has to exit from the mast to the water (ground) the voltage is big enough to melt a big hole through the aluminium hull..
    Enough to sink a yacht like this in seconds.

    • @BLUEWATERTOO
      @BLUEWATERTOO 22 дня назад

      No doubt this boat had a state of the art bonding system...

  • @russ549
    @russ549 23 дня назад +5

    As a sailor I've wondered why other sailor's don't seem to be worried about lightening as almost all sailboats have tall iluminum masts and steal cables...?

    • @marviwilson1853
      @marviwilson1853 22 дня назад +1

      All structures that protrude into the sky are normally fitted with lightening conductors. This mast should have had one and should have been fitted properly. Just out of interest, a lightening conductor is not actually designed to conduct lightening. If a structure fitted with a lightening conductor is hit by lightening then the lightening conductor has failed. Lightening conductors are connected to ground and end with a point at the top. They are designed to "spray" ions into the atmosphere surrounding the structure so that the structure does not become a target for the strike based on its charge. Those who remember cathode ray tube TV's might remember putting a sewing needle next to the screen in order to hear the ion wind flowing.

    • @russ549
      @russ549 22 дня назад

      @@marviwilson1853 so a conductor is simply a copper cable from the mast or whatever to the keel, or to the water or into the ground? It's just a cable that goes into the ground or water right?? And thanks, for explaining this to me, I like your explanation, very interesting and informative, I totally understand what your saying. If you get your body close to a high voltage electric line you can litteraly see the hairs on you arms stand and you can feel it too.

  • @CharlesWhite-j4f
    @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +18

    How can losing the mast unbalance the boat? Looking more like a Blackrock drone strike minute by minute

  • @donaldbaillie5224
    @donaldbaillie5224 23 дня назад +5

    We in NZ have had boats capsize to 90 degrees when anchored with the centre board raised. It pays to have the board lowered while anchored in heavy weather.

    • @awuma
      @awuma 23 дня назад +1

      That's not a capsize.

    • @jrbaeronz9840
      @jrbaeronz9840 23 дня назад +1

      You'll remember during a superyacht race in Auckland bout 10 years ago when one had a chainplate ripped out in strong winds. You could be right about the centerboard, some of these superyachts have drop keels.

  • @cliveengel5744
    @cliveengel5744 22 дня назад +1

    The boat was blown over, and there was so much windage on the Mast. There are four Radar/Satellite Domes on the Mast, and the main sail is furled in the Boom. A massive superstructure and maybe, the Tender Hatch was left open!

  • @barriewilliams4526
    @barriewilliams4526 23 дня назад +13

    Money is not everything. Sometimes it's better to be just plain lucky......

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +2

      I'm Guessing this billionaire has had a fair share of luck too, somewhere along the line, but that runs out at some point.

    • @LL-LLLL9
      @LL-LLLL9 22 дня назад +1

      I think that sometimes the rich take more risks than the rest of us. Maybe that helped them get rich, but then they do silly things such as going down to the seabed in unsuitable submarines etc.

  • @johnpaulgreaney6764
    @johnpaulgreaney6764 23 дня назад +13

    My prayers to all the families

  • @maida-vale
    @maida-vale 23 дня назад +8

    The modern business of Brits and media speculating on things beyond their experience!! The windage on the mast and rigging alone in one of these mediterranean "turbo-vents" is immense, especially with the hight and clutter of this particular mast. If broken and with, even furled sails still rigged, the drag on hitting the water would be huge and with such a low freeboard it would not be beyond reasonable to expect, with the level of severity of this particular turbo, that the yacht would not be put gunwales down! Even worse if, despite being anchored, the bows couldn't be brought head to wind!! A sad happening for which there was probably no warning These winds, even inland, in southern climbs, arrive from nowhere and are usually over and done within a quarter of an hour or so, leaving huge devastation. Even in UK, with the storm that sank the "Athena B" some years ago, I had full sails but all furled and secure and moored against a quay, I was gunwales down during the blow and leaking like a sieve!! My mast was only 30' above deck! Very sad que meme!!!

    • @FreedomFighterz215
      @FreedomFighterz215 23 дня назад

      you a sailor, mate?

    • @zeitgeist909
      @zeitgeist909 23 дня назад +2

      I get you. Crazy conspiracy theories abound. But then you find out his business partner in all the controversy was also killed in a hit-and-run just 48 hours before this happened. Hmmm. Just asking questions.

    • @AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
      @AndriyValdensius-wi8gw 23 дня назад

      It must be a conspiracy. Hewlett Packard have power over the weather off the coast of Sicily. It's amazing what they can do these days.

    • @maida-vale
      @maida-vale 23 дня назад

      @@FreedomFighterz215 Not your mate "mate" nor the mate; I was the owner/skipper (captain).

    • @josephbland3904
      @josephbland3904 22 дня назад +1

      Mmmm!.. there’s a lot of smoke there to be “NO FIRE”…

  • @joprocter4573
    @joprocter4573 23 дня назад +2

    Surely following weather forecast would have set in safety procedures.

  • @carolinependleton8445
    @carolinependleton8445 23 дня назад +22

    There are some horrible comments,these poor people drowned,so mean.

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +4

      Humour has no boundaries, relax. I doubt friends and family will be reading these comments. There will be condolences coming in from the people that matter to them.

    • @timewa851
      @timewa851 23 дня назад +6

      when you go down off Sicily in a $50M+ sailing yacht there's nothing poor about it.

    • @zarni66
      @zarni66 23 дня назад +2

      @@timewa851don’t be jelly

    • @dangleecock6704
      @dangleecock6704 23 дня назад

      Rich people problem

    • @Thelostgoldhunters
      @Thelostgoldhunters 23 дня назад +2

      Not as mean as the newsreader revelling in the horrific drama of the situation

  • @chopa2less
    @chopa2less 23 дня назад +7

    Are we supposed to know who Mike Lynch is?

  • @jokos1384
    @jokos1384 23 дня назад +6

    BOTH RICH AND POOR WILL END UNDER THE SOIL ONE DAY. R. I . P

    • @marviwilson1853
      @marviwilson1853 22 дня назад

      Yes, when I die I am leaving everything to myself.

  • @navajojohn9448
    @navajojohn9448 23 дня назад +4

    I would like to know if any crew were on watch and saw the weather squall coming securing the boat and alerting passengers.

    • @mvl6827
      @mvl6827 23 дня назад

      The answer is No.

    • @katie-cp3jw
      @katie-cp3jw 23 дня назад

      @@mvl6827don’t blame the crew.
      Tornados pop up suddenly?
      Happened so fast it doesn’t mean no one was on watch.

    • @mvl6827
      @mvl6827 23 дня назад

      @@katie-cp3jw did I blame the crew? Don't tell porkies.

  • @daveymc172
    @daveymc172 23 дня назад +5

    Bill Gates? Stop messing with mother nature!

  • @Mark-gu9ye
    @Mark-gu9ye 23 дня назад +20

    This has all the telltale signs of a giant radioactive squid attack 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @dstar8487
      @dstar8487 23 дня назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Hkiz
      @Hkiz 23 дня назад +1

      The kracken

    • @dfuher968
      @dfuher968 22 дня назад

      Certainly sounds as plausible as what these 2 ignoramus are spouting.

  • @Richard-dg7bf
    @Richard-dg7bf 23 дня назад +9

    Sounds highly implausible as the mast would be earthed to the prop shaft !!!

    • @michaelb2388
      @michaelb2388 23 дня назад +1

      Surely all metal parts on the boat would be earthed. Prop shafts are routinely earthed on boats to prevent galvanic corrosion

  • @volkerkonig9376
    @volkerkonig9376 23 дня назад +7

    There is no reason for speculating. There is a competent eye- witness. The skipper of the nearby anchoring traditional sailing vessel SIR ROBERT BADEN- POWEL. He says that there were very strong gusts and he saw at one moment the BAYESIAN lying on gunwales, this means at 90° to her upright position. Moments later he reports seeing only a big fin on the water, which means that the sailing yacht had capsized 180°. And when the gusts finished the sailing yacht was gone.

    • @ore4619
      @ore4619 22 дня назад

      Yes

    • @marviwilson1853
      @marviwilson1853 22 дня назад

      The only way this could happen is if she had lost her keel. They for sure will find that the vessel and keel have parted.

  • @matteframe
    @matteframe 23 дня назад +12

    lightning is highly unlikely to sink a sailboat. It will disable all electronics, but it doesn't bore a hole through the hull...

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +8

      Not sure that femal correspondent was an expert in physics, she thought losing the mast could unbalance the boat😂

    • @djrigga
      @djrigga 23 дня назад +4

      No it doesn’t do that for sure loosing a keel definitely will

    • @russ549
      @russ549 23 дня назад +1

      As a beginner sailor I worry about lightening...so can you be hurt from it? or is it just electronics that will be destroyed ?

    • @matteframe
      @matteframe 22 дня назад +1

      @@russ549 so long as you have a tall enough mast and correct grounding, you'll be fine. At least it's safer than standing out in a field during a thunderstorm. But stay away from metal and electronics during a thunderstorm.

    • @marviwilson1853
      @marviwilson1853 22 дня назад +2

      Actually it can. You must have seen pictures of trees split in half after lightening strikes. This is caused by the vaporization of water within the wood. That same power can cause trouble on sailboats in many different ways. Keel bolts blown off, hull material shattered in places beneath the waterline. It is possible. See what they find when they look at the wreck.

  • @adkemp2000
    @adkemp2000 21 день назад +1

    Actually a broken mast would help the stability of a sailboat in high winds. Definitely wasn't the cause of the boat going down. My bet is they had their keel extended up (at anchor) which caused the boat to be less stable and upright. Water got into port holes, and other exposed areas. It can happen very quickly, especially in high surf/windy conditions. Yachts are grounded to absorb lighting strikes and a broken mast won't sink a boat that has it's sails down and is under anchor.

  • @EnergyMedicine2012
    @EnergyMedicine2012 23 дня назад +18

    Testing the Space laser, his partner died on the same day in a car accident. Sounds like HP hits

    • @joruss443
      @joruss443 23 дня назад

      That's 80s technology.

    • @JoeBrown-b7w
      @JoeBrown-b7w 23 дня назад

      Whats hp

    • @CL-un9gg
      @CL-un9gg 23 дня назад

      @@EnergyMedicine2012 what partner? Are you serious? Presumably business, if his wife & children were at sea?

    • @JJR_77
      @JJR_77 23 дня назад +9

      @@CL-un9gghis co defendant in his court case against HP, was run over and killed by a car while out on a run / jog about 48 hours ago in Cambridgeshire (UK) coincidence no?

    • @AthelstanEngland
      @AthelstanEngland 23 дня назад +5

      @@JJR_77 blimey I assumed that was fake, but it is indeed being reported in the local media.

  • @iam57yearsold
    @iam57yearsold 23 дня назад +2

    Boat autopsy required?

  • @wra7h
    @wra7h 23 дня назад +7

    Rich people be having the worst deaths

  • @RATLEEA10
    @RATLEEA10 23 дня назад +2

    hIgh energy weapons from high above the Earth, this man knew too much.

  • @ivermektin6874
    @ivermektin6874 22 дня назад +2

    What a fun week of absolute co-incidences.

  • @AthelstanEngland
    @AthelstanEngland 23 дня назад +19

    Very unlikely lighting caused it. Huge mast, top heavy (was it in mast furling?) and a freak tornado...same effect as a kabatic wind. My guess anyway. RIP those poor souls, so close to land.

    • @dap777754
      @dap777754 23 дня назад +2

      I don't think the mast had a damn thing to do with it. Dismasted ships don't capsize, necessarily. This was a freakish wind event.

    • @AthelstanEngland
      @AthelstanEngland 23 дня назад +2

      @@dap777754 i didn't say the mast broke. Top heavy boats have less stability, hence more likely to capsize and sink because they can't self right.. Get it?

    • @AdeboFunkyVoodoo
      @AdeboFunkyVoodoo 23 дня назад +1

      ​@@AthelstanEngland it's not a top heavy boat. Perini Navi's are built to be comfortable, safe, cruisers. They are not, high performance with a square top main. She had a draft of 32ft which should speak volumes to anyone who knows about yachts. Her keel was huge.
      Anyway, at anchor as they were, there would have been zero weight/force/mass anywhere near the mast.

    • @AthelstanEngland
      @AthelstanEngland 23 дня назад

      @@AdeboFunkyVoodoo and you don't appear to understand in-mast furling weight distribution, additional shroud weight due to the extreme height and a possible causal link. I said all along it was related to a freak storm not lightning.

    • @TheAwillz
      @TheAwillz 23 дня назад

      @@AthelstanEngland actually lad its to do with his case with Hewlett Packard the printer company, his codefendant died in a car crash this saturday in a seperate incident..

  • @nicholaspatton1742
    @nicholaspatton1742 23 дня назад +3

    Could the lighting energy blow a hole in the bottom , if the grounding wasn't enough. When a large tree is hit it can blow it apart.
    A dismasting can sink a boat in heavy seas or not. At anchor i doubt it very much. A mast is light compared to the hull. 1-2% of the gross tonnage , or less.
    Time will tell.
    Huge amount of energy put into the mast blows a hole. ??? Possible

  • @kopeducati
    @kopeducati 23 дня назад +5

    Masts break all the time. Mostly on flimsical racing yachts. That limp home for weeks. Destabilising that beast of a boat seems very unlikely ? The only way a broken mast sinks z boat is when it pierces the hull big time. Which it won’t with that hull ?

  • @robertschaeffer8469
    @robertschaeffer8469 22 дня назад +1

    Following an investigation into why the Yacht sank, it then becomes a major insurance matter.

  • @derekcooper1831
    @derekcooper1831 23 дня назад +1

    It tough at the top. Not a problem I've encountered as my super yacht gets struck by lightening. Im more the, possibly getting stabbed popping to the shop, kind of person.

  • @sheilastahl633
    @sheilastahl633 23 дня назад +2

    That mast was very tall! First thing a bolt of lightning would find.

    • @patrikfloding7985
      @patrikfloding7985 23 дня назад +2

      True for all sailing ships. They are designed to handle this.

  • @muscleprotein
    @muscleprotein 23 дня назад +2

    You mess with the powers that be you get removed. Him and his co defendant within days of each other

  • @bhobbs4116
    @bhobbs4116 23 дня назад +1

    The media has no idea what so ever, she was not anchored in 50 metres of water so the media says, there would not be enough chain on board for that depth, I have encountered water spouts not far from there, just near Malta, that would not sink that vessel and nor would a lightning strike. I do find it strange that Mike Lynch partner was killed in a car crash the day before who was also involved in that court case, there is another side to this sinking and the boat needs to be salvaged.
    That boat was a top notch construction, not some mickey mouse French built boat.

    • @josephbland3904
      @josephbland3904 22 дня назад

      “French Built”… 😂😂😂… I like it..

  • @philiphumphrey1548
    @philiphumphrey1548 23 дня назад +1

    Very unlikely. Losing the mast would make the vessel more stable, not less. The cause of the sinking is more likely to be a hatch, window or doorway either not secure or battered open by the waves.

    • @marviwilson1853
      @marviwilson1853 22 дня назад

      There would be no appreciable waves generated by a local thunder cloud squall. Maximum 1-2m

  • @johnwright291
    @johnwright291 23 дня назад +9

    Interestingly on the very same date we had a very freakish and intense electric storm with massive lightning strikes in the Seattle Tacoma area. It was by far the worse electric lighting storm I have seen in my 68 years. Are they connected?

    • @matteframe
      @matteframe 23 дня назад +3

      no

    • @TheBeefie
      @TheBeefie 23 дня назад +1

      It'll be related to the sun bursts that happened recently most likely.

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +2

      No

    • @johnwright291
      @johnwright291 23 дня назад

      @@CharlesWhite-j4f i tend to agree but it is quite a coincidence.

    • @johnwright291
      @johnwright291 23 дня назад +1

      @@TheBeefie that thought accrued to me. We had the northern lights the night before.

  • @ufoenigma7858
    @ufoenigma7858 23 дня назад +3

    Thank Goodness most were saved.. Awful situation.

  • @idahodoug1618
    @idahodoug1618 22 дня назад

    Agree. If anything, a shorter/broken mast would actually INCREASE the vessel's stability. If true, a lightning strike could have taken out the vessel's electrical capabilities - including possibly cutting off the ability for closing watertight features once she was on her beam ends, and of course likely including pumping systems. However, once on her side and taking on water, the pumps would be ineffective as they're located in spaces water collects when she's upright. What's far more puzzling is how a sailing vessel with a keel and massive self righting capability (compared to a motor yacht with no keel) would lay on her side more than a few seconds before coming back up. A vessel her size in protected waters like that (sheltered from full ocean wave action), should have been able to handle even severe top side damage (blown windows, dismasting etc) from a waterspout. One further disabling issue that could explain her loss is the mast itself. It could have broken a large section near the top, which unluckily fell straight down like a battering ram, easily punching through the deck, and possibly punching right out through the bottom and sinking her with the electrical system out. The lighting strike and possible loss of the electricals would explain the lack of an emergency Mayday as well. RIP

  • @user-rn8ej6jh3k
    @user-rn8ej6jh3k 21 день назад +2

    This boat sank due to crew inexperience and poor design. Without the keel down, the boat would become very"tender" and heel over to the extent that it would not round up. Then the wind would get under the hull and drive it sideways to leeward with the water pouring over the leeward gunwale. I have experienced that myself. Under any circumstances with the weather coming up the keel should have lowered and as other the boat did, start the engine to hold the boat into windward. The whole of the crew and passengers should have been up with lifejackets on. The so called water spout and the lightning had nothing to do with it. It was the strong wind under the hull because of the skippers inexperience.
    I went into this in great detail when it happened to me.

  • @TeddyCavachon
    @TeddyCavachon 21 день назад

    According to other reports I’ve seen the boat had a motorized retractable lead keel for ballast which normally sits 10m deep, but had been pulled up because the boat was anchored which would have made it unstable in high winds. The storm reportedly hit at 5AM when all the passengers were asleep below and it sunk very quickly.

  • @natcalverley4344
    @natcalverley4344 23 дня назад +1

    Yes a waterspout would definitely have a chance to sink this boat.
    No waterspouts are not rare . Currently as I right this we have waterspout warnings off the coast where I live right now. Surviver’s will give us a better idea possibly.

  • @thercattrainer
    @thercattrainer 19 дней назад

    People forget that mono hulled sail boats usually have a weighted keel which makes them harder to capsize. As a USMM Captain, I really don’t buy it that the aluminum mast caused it to be off balance and capsize. Being anchored usually makes the vessel heel into the wind. I think that there is more to this than what is reported. Hatches may not have been battened down since this storm happened so quickly. My heart goes out to the families of those who were lost, or perished.

  • @timothyabraham13
    @timothyabraham13 19 дней назад

    The mast is reported as being fully intact and attached to the hull in the correct way. More importantly was the yacht anchored by the bow only or both bow and stern as the latter would not allow the yacht to head into wind and if the wind was side on this would cause the yacht to roll far more than being just anchored at the bow.

  • @mstyah
    @mstyah 23 дня назад +2

    Wow. Hope they find the missing 6.

  • @wellbehaveddogs7694
    @wellbehaveddogs7694 23 дня назад +11

    Meanwhile, there's a genocide going on

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +5

      Go and help yourself! What's stopping you?

    • @maryamislam2461
      @maryamislam2461 23 дня назад +3

      ​@@CharlesWhite-j4fu nasty c

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +8

      @@maryamislam2461 And you are not very nice yourself, Madam😂 You Palestine obsessives need to give it a break. What has this got to do with Gaza??? The rest of the world goes on.

    • @sese8976
      @sese8976 23 дня назад

      Yeah it’s called the holocaust it’s still happening this time by Arab nazis

    • @Thelostgoldhunters
      @Thelostgoldhunters 23 дня назад

      Or you

  • @Thelostgoldhunters
    @Thelostgoldhunters 23 дня назад +4

    It's sickening to hear the Times Radio newsreader almost revelling in the horror of the situation. Where do they find such people?

  • @user-me7zh8kd1t
    @user-me7zh8kd1t 19 дней назад

    It's a fact that most vessels in a capsized state will float due to air pockets, so unless there was a hole was in the hull it shouldn't have sunk that quick.

  • @sjukbasketball8498
    @sjukbasketball8498 23 дня назад +4

    ‘Lightning’ - planned hit

  • @Fox1nDen
    @Fox1nDen 23 дня назад

    glad most were rescued. thanks for the details. we who love the people of Britain were shook by the news brits were lost.

  • @moooonbounce
    @moooonbounce 23 дня назад +28

    God strikes back..

  • @perarduaadastra873
    @perarduaadastra873 22 дня назад +2

    Have divers been asked if the keel was retracted?

  • @freedomofspeech766
    @freedomofspeech766 23 дня назад +1

    Something in common with the sinking of the Titanic ... on board were some of the richest people on the planet .... this seems to be fate as this bad weather was gone soon after it started. If it had happened during the day they would all have been able to abandon ship but they were in bed sleeping at the time ... I always imagined that masts were made out of wood due to the possibility of lightning when out at sea.

  • @damham5689
    @damham5689 21 день назад

    When you have a mast near 200 feet tall with sails open, tornado speed winds are likely to put the whole ship over. That mast with sails deoyed creates a long leverage lever point.

  • @BLUESKY-zt1nv
    @BLUESKY-zt1nv 23 дня назад +1

    This is why boats should never go out into the open sea ..i have said it time and time again .stay safe in the confines of a harbour !!

    • @marviwilson1853
      @marviwilson1853 22 дня назад +1

      I say the same thing about cars. They should stay on the drive next to the house. It is total madness to take them on the open road and into all that danger. Aeroplane's too should just stay at the airport. Flying at 500mph at 35,000ft! Total madness!

  • @Modernnannenginemarineengine
    @Modernnannenginemarineengine 23 дня назад +1

    70 million ££ boat can’t survive a lighting strike. .. err what happened. Was it an extra powerful strike. Is this boat useless. Was it an insurance write off ???

  • @highallmighty233
    @highallmighty233 23 дня назад +4

    Has anyone questioned Thor yet?

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +1

      No, this was the work of Hephaestus the God of Thunder, who just happens to live nearby, under Mount Etna

    • @user-hw7ny8ts3z
      @user-hw7ny8ts3z 22 дня назад

      ​@@CharlesWhite-j4flol!

  • @AssadK339
    @AssadK339 23 дня назад +6

    Lighting Strike, yes we believe you. After that interview, not surprised he was targeted with a lightning strike.

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +5

      I hear that Blackrock's latest military drone is called "lightning strike". Pure coincidence no doubt that Blackrock was the defeated plaintiff in the multi-billion lawsuit being celebrated so ostentatiously on that yacht.

    • @user-hw7ny8ts3z
      @user-hw7ny8ts3z 22 дня назад

      ​@@CharlesWhite-j4fSounds scary!

  • @markosterman4974
    @markosterman4974 21 день назад +1

    Absolutely terrible reporting. The woman being interviewed clearly knows nothing about sailboats in general and this one in particular. This super yacht has a variable draft keel. With the keel down it draws roughly 30 feet and is exceptionally stable when at anchor. However, with the keel raised it draws about 12 feet and is significantly less stable, and vulnerable to tornado strength winds. Such winds can result in a knockdown. If the knockdown is unanticipated and sufficient hatches and port lights are left open, tons of water can quickly enter the boat, overwhelm the bilge pumps and result in a rapid sinking of the ship, with people left trapped down below. This is my best guess of events, based on over 50 years of sailing. But it is still a guess. The mast breaking due to a lightning strike, resulting in the boat being less stable, is a laughably bad hypothesis.

  • @user-jh8uf4u666
    @user-jh8uf4u666 23 дня назад +6

    Some comments here are so mean with tinge of jealousy that some of those victims are wealthy. 🙄🙄🙄

    • @kimyoung3484
      @kimyoung3484 23 дня назад +2

      Yes, so sad !!! 😢😢😢😢💔🙏🙏

    • @user-hw7ny8ts3z
      @user-hw7ny8ts3z 22 дня назад

      Not if someone refers to them as "poor" people - they were only poor as in unlucky maybe - they were/are stinking rich! Just shows- Money can't "buy" you everything!

  • @jimoconnor2594
    @jimoconnor2594 22 дня назад +1

    John Stonehouse went swimming when his bank was a failure, he jumped in at Miami and he swan to Australia

  • @texadonkey34
    @texadonkey34 22 дня назад +1

    Hewlett-Packard is sending a search team. 🤣

  • @raulthepig5821
    @raulthepig5821 23 дня назад +1

    A good number of boats, if not most, sink because of a chafed hose.

  • @davidrucker1000
    @davidrucker1000 23 дня назад +1

    BS. Lightning strike and/or loss of mast will not cause a ship to immediately sink. Tornado confirmed as cause of loss.

    • @marviwilson1853
      @marviwilson1853 22 дня назад

      Tornado's only happen on land. At sea they are known as water spouts. Waterspouts never reach the ferocity of tornado's. You never get a category 5 water spout! You must have seen video on RUclips of waterspouts coming ashore on the beach in Miami say. All they do is blow the sun shades and deck chairs around.

  • @antonomaseapophasis5142
    @antonomaseapophasis5142 19 дней назад

    0:22 If “the sailing mast” had broken, that would have added upright stability.
    The crew would probably have noticed the state of the rigging on their way to safety.

  • @FortunateXpat
    @FortunateXpat 21 день назад

    I live near Porticello and we had 2 nights of heavy thunderstorms. I don’t understand why the crew let people stay on the boat, when this heavy weather was forecasted.

  • @Davemmmason
    @Davemmmason 22 дня назад +1

    Someone may be alive in an air pocket, but highly unlikely

  • @freekpluimers
    @freekpluimers 23 дня назад

    A de- masting would likely not have sunk the ship, however a strike of lightning could have pierced a hole in the hull where the stays or mast (depending on the structure) connect to the keel.

  • @Ad_Astra2023
    @Ad_Astra2023 23 дня назад +2

    I’ll be honest, I find it hard to sympathise for those people due to the nature of their luxurious transport and the level of their wealth. It’s an irony that the rich are the ones who cause the most and the biggest environmental problems on this planet, and now we’re experiencing more unpredictable extreme weather conditions.

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 23 дня назад +3

      It was a sailing boat dude. The guy was doing his bit for the planet and still you moan.

    • @patrikfloding7985
      @patrikfloding7985 23 дня назад +2

      Isn't jealousy one of the sins?

    • @Ad_Astra2023
      @Ad_Astra2023 22 дня назад

      @@CharlesWhite-j4f was he doing this for this planet? Where can I find the information about that?

    • @Ad_Astra2023
      @Ad_Astra2023 22 дня назад

      @@patrikfloding7985 I don’t believe in religions, so don’t preach about “sins”. Besides, I’m not jealous of someone for owning a boat. Boats aren’t my thing and I don’t even like sailing. I hardly fly unless I must, I religiously recycle everything I can. I try my best to live off solar energy as much as I could, my car is a Tesla.
      So, now you tell me, what do you do for our planet?

    • @CharlesWhite-j4f
      @CharlesWhite-j4f 22 дня назад

      @@Ad_Astra2023 Sadly now we can only guess at the reason for his choice of sailing vessel over diesel-power

  • @FR-tb7xh
    @FR-tb7xh 22 дня назад

    Hmmmm. The Captain whom rescued the lifeboaters and described the scene never mentioned a lightening blast so close to their vessels, only in the area. Had it happened, wouldn’t his ears have blown and his entire body shocked by the blast?

  • @cyberla
    @cyberla 23 дня назад +8

    Get the story straight was it lightning or a tornado? Either way - sounds like an act of God 🤔

  • @fultoneth9869
    @fultoneth9869 23 дня назад +1

    The limit of all humans . Money is not immune.

  • @pedroministro6420
    @pedroministro6420 23 дня назад +2

    killed by his own money.... the Irony

  • @marviwilson1853
    @marviwilson1853 22 дня назад

    This "mast broke - unbalanced the boat" comment seems to have come from an eye witness at the scene according to the reports from Italy. Clearly those who know about sailing boast know that a broken mast does not make a sail boat unbalanced, it actually makes it more balanced as top weight is reduced. Also unlikely that strong winds could break a mast as such a sail boat is designed to work in strong winds on the mast with the huge sail area up!! Talk of being hit by lightening but an aluminum mast would conduct lightening although possibly the extreme current caused a melting and failure. The storm seems more like a thunder cell squall so there would have been no big swells running. Can only assume a mast lightening strike has damaged the hull. The boat was at anchor which would have held it into the wind.