it's rrrrrrrreally interesting to see them work out the LED mapping. Not specifically for the outcome, but for the group dynamic and communication. Adam being brutally honest that he has stopped listening (well, his "brain has stopped taking on new information"), Matt trying to think it through on the fly under pressure (Adam started stimming by tapping his foot but caught himself), Adam identifying their difference in approach (satisfyer vs maximizer) and calling out their time shortage, Matt knowing when he has to resort to ripping fresh pieces of tape instead of trying to help with the complicated building, etc. You can see that these folks have worked in groups, know what to do and say to keep things moving without causing grievance, know their own strengths and weaknesses and play to them.
I read this comment and was like wtf? this was a five minute build??? check timestamp, well ok. Apparently my adhd brain skipped all the boring parts and I didn't even notice
I was not expecting to hear them discuss the geopolitical situation of north-eastern Spain before the 3 minute mark. When it comes to dodecahedrons you'll usually need to wait for about 10 minutes. These men know their stuff.
Jamie standing somewhere, keep it simple, keep it simple. But no, Adam and Matt gotta overcomplicate stuff!. I always loved Jamie's ability to above else keep project simple, almost to a fault.
They both looked so awkward at the beginning like "oh my god it's really him!" but their personalities collided in the best way, this was an awesome episode from two of my favorite mathematically-inclined RUclipsrs :D
"Branching?" "Infinite amount aren't working" I died. This one day build is my favorite by far. I hope to see other people from Perodictable to Deepsky , I think they all have some build idea that'll be great. Sixty symbols! dang.
I have to say, this is quite possibly my favourite of all tested videos and collaborations ever! Matt and Adam have such great chemistry working together. This was a complete and utter joy to watch!
I genuinely thought that was a well known joke (may still be), and spent a few moments trying to understand the punchline, however, after googling, it doesn't seem to be. I understand it now, and feel like an idiot... perhaps using the word 'wire' rather than 'change' might have saved my stupidity, but that's purely semantics... did make me chuckle when I finally realised :)
I love how Adam can literally connect to nearly everyone's passions and talk with them with the same amount of passion! It's a great feeling when you can get super technical on a subject and talk about your passions with others!
You're right. He gets on well with and meets some pretty awesome people! Meeting someone you connect with and can talk to on the same level, is very refreshing.
i'm an electrician who installs LED tape regularly. i was literally screaming at the screen while they were talking about running jumpers! you can feed +&- to the LED tape from any point. including where they intersect
Tfw you realize you played with the toys Adam made in a museum as part of a school field trip and you have proudly remembered your stellated rhombicosidodecahedron ever since.
I remember back in elementary school, my class made regular polyhedra Christmas tree ornaments. Little did we know, when we were told to make two of them, one was going to a Christmas tree at the art museum nearby just prior to our field trip to that museum. I was so excited to see my blue cube sitting on the "Gee, I'm a tree" exhibit in the lobby.
Matt wanting to continue to experiment so zealously but Adam having to ground him to get the project done was so wholesome. Such a wonderful interaction between you two.
@@mathiasmilne that was very very sloppy AAR & we will sit hear all night until you get it right !! If you try use the word wholesome for Adam thats your TaP ouT......just close your eyes !! lmao /;*)
Ha Ha ga-a-aa...wait WHaT ?? w h a t !?! W H O L E S O M E lol ?? oK Ok shake it off man maybe just a typo calling Adam Savage wholesome he he dam man.... HERE ↓ ↓ ▬ DEF: Wholesome: [adjective] promoting health or well-being of mind or spirit !! ...there are a few other definitions but thats the GIST of it → Would say Adam was aware, time aware & history as in prof. resume i.e. been here done it few times MATT was just exhausting the POTENTIALITYS like he said ya ! HOW do you see wholesome working SO WHAT are you doing testing out your thesaurus capability ??
@@mathiasmilne he he, the W word just flag'd me hard lol. I am not with the grammar police, but words matter & I am a black-ops word agent..........guy /;^) Soooo ... W O R D !! lol Peace Out
IKR! I sure hope they are now nerd-besties... nerdsties...? Besterds...? Anyway, it’s not hard to spot someone who grew up alone, outcast from the “normal kids”. It’s a vulnerability that never fully heals. What stands out the most is the fact that they are eager to comfort and support others, though. Empathetic souls.
i'm an electrician who installs LED tape regularly. i was literally screaming at the screen while they were talking about running jumpers! you can feed +&- to the LED tape from any point. including where they intersect
While not screaming, I was groaning inwardly at how simple this way overthought problem would be and amazed why they did not see it. Oh well if math is what mathematicians enjoy doing, electricity is what electchickens enjoy doing; obviously non overlapping fields of study. (yes I can spell electrician, if you don't understand the intentional misspelling your missing out on a great channel)
Ah, to be specific, it only matters if the strip is wired in parallel or in series parallel. These strips are parallel strips and would be fine to wire up from any point where there is a plus or minus.
@@tested If 1 BinGooglez "HandCraftedMirrors" BoA..UK. I made a "Harlequin" secret-door mirror.. out of Antique'e glass, those diamonds were a bugbear.. Love these as hanging pendulum lights .. may prefer aluminium foil tape as bodge-gaurd... and yes there is a side to solar-vinyl ... I imagine you building one large enough for you to climb in..
@@tested seriously though where that link to the material build! Couldn't find it in any of the comments as far as I can tell. :) Would really love to make one of these. looks like a lot of fun.
I run my own wood working business and I have used a dodecahedron shape before to make a hanging light. Each face had scroll sawn Celtic knot elements on them. It was hollow to allow for a light to go inside. You guys have opened my mind to the possibility to utilize other solids (including this one) in the creation of even more varied light boxes. Love my man Mr. Adam Savage, always an inspiration.
So funny that at 8 minute they talk about 'how a math teacher would use this' - im sitting here (a math teacher) going, how can I have students play with this in my Geometry class...
Thank you for going the extra mile to get your students more interested in math, Teachers are an investment in society and it's a damn shame you folks aren't paid what you're actually worth.
I'm going to go against popular opinion here, but I feel that teachers who do not give students real life examples to relate the information to, are not worth paying as much as teachers who help the students discover the relevancy of the information through experimentation and self discovery. Not all teachers should be paid well. HillMath90, please do as you are thinking. My math teachers (private schools) has masters and doctorate degrees in math. They were not able to help me truly understand the subject. I ended up having the self educate using real world examples on my own time, outside of school, in order to understand math.
@@alexgagnon9414 Just because that's not how your learning process works, does not mean they're not worth paying less attention to for the general public.
Please do that. You're sure to spark someone's passion if you let yours shine through your work. Also, if I recall correctly, Professor Matt Parker has a store with all kinds of interesting things. Mathematical puzzles, games, weirdly shaped(or numbered!)dice and even some excentric paperweights, literally and figuratively. I'm not sponsored, but I'd recommend you check it out if you havent done so already. There's probably at least a couple of things you could use in class, per subject, up for sale on the site. Cheers and utmost respect, Sir! :D
I always enjoy your content, but this is one of my favorite episodes ever. The intersection between making and math, the making physical that which is usually abstract, and the brainstorming and troubleshooting (particularly of the lighting) was absolutely fantastic to watch. I can’t wait to show my 8-year old the process you all went through during this. It’s sure to inspire him to want to do something similar. The wonderful banter and interpersonal interactions added another fantastic layer to this video. Thank you for making this and if we get a vote, I’d vote for more collaborations between you two!
I recently got a fidget toy called a Shashibo that demonstrates perfectly that the rhombic dodecahedron is the inversion of a cube. It's a cube made up of twelve half-rhombic pyramids (Rhombic pyramid cut in half lengthwise along the rhombic face) and then attached to each other by stickers (across the faces) and magnets. The result is a cube that can fold into a bunch of shapes, but one of them is the Rhombic dodecahedron. I... might have had a info-dumping session with my spouse when I realized that. She now knows I have a favorite polyhedron. Ya know, nerd stuff.
There's also the crucial time aspect when you're an adult. This video makes money and if it didnt it wouldnt have happened. Unless of course they meet on a weekend. But if you have a family... Worked hard entire week.... Its obviously possible, just difficult in actual real life.
27:51 When you’re working on a group project/puzzle and one person has some part perfectly thought out which allows the project to move forward but no one else understands what happens at that part 😂🤣
5:00 I love how Matt is like hey hang on why are u done already. And instantly looks down en does the math on how much faster Adam was. Mean while Adam is there already moving on to the next part of the project. Absolute RUclips gold.
12:50 I love how he asks at this moment exactly if he can find the cube inside the shape because from the cameras perspective its looking at the perfect angle to see the cube!
Watching these guys geek out about shapes reminds me of how I felt when I solved a shape problem at work. Basically, I needed a shape for which the smallest box that could enclose it didn’t share a face with the mystery shape. When my coworker and I figured that it was a tetrahedron it was so satisfying. We immediately mocked it up by folding post it notes.
The way the automotive stripping works it looks like it just applies with a squeegee and sponge, but there are actually 2 layers of plastic, one is a clear plastic layer that seals in the adhesive layer on the back of the mirrored face from air. The soap is used to help apply this adhesive and not have it stick til you squeegy out all the liquid. at least in my experience. You can easily test this by putting a piece of tape on both sides of the mirror stripping near a corner, and it pulls apart.
I have hated maths for so very long because I found the numbers difficult to imagine, but Matt just gave me the key to better understanding and being able to visualise those numbers in "finding and exploding patterns." Thank you so very much for that. Mind Blown!
Actually, it would be kinda crap, given how much space it takes up with that tiny horizontal face on the top 😜 Maybe if you add a large glass top, but not sure how that affects the visual effect (adding its own refractions)
@@hazerod833 To be a true "geometric solid", all sides must be equilateral. In this case, all but one side. If you cut an equilateral hexagon into 6 pieces, you'll get 6 equilateral triangles, all laying flat. There is no way to make them into a pyramid. Now, take one out and you can make a pyramid with a pentagon base, but you'll never get a pyramid from 6 equilateral triangles.
When you were talking about routing the LEDs, I got excited as a CS student. It made me think back to the path finding algorithms I studied in college. It's always exciting seeing the ways my (or any) field of study comes into play for a problem.
"that is how you build a tesseract" falls somewhere here.. I can totally see how this can be made as a comsumer's product- each rombus has LEDs on all 4 sides with magneticaly connected electronic corners. One 12v plug and NO INSTRUCTIONS included. have fun kids!
What would happen if the put the led’s where Adam drew the lines to make the cube inside of it and all the sides were one way mirrors would it look like an infinite array of cubes held within this odd shape?
+[Noah Presti] The person you replied to didn't mention either dodecahedrons nor icosahedrons anywhere in their comment. They only mentioned polyhedrons. And, since "poly" means "many" and "hedron" means "(geometric) face", the icosahedron and both the pentagonal and rhombic dodecahedrons are polyhedrons.
The best part of this is watching them struggle the same way I do while trying to visualize all this. I love that it's not simply explaining "this is how it works" it shows the struggle to get there too.
I had a moment where I thought Adam had a single painted nail, which seemed very him for some reason, and then realized he'd just crushed a nail and that also seemed very himself and I had myself laughing at my own thoughts. Not at all where I thought I'd be with this very geometry loving episode. Love this.
AIUI the term they're looking for is "cumulated" - stellated is done by extending the faces of the inner shape, cumulated is when you stick pyramids on [they're easily because they often result in the same shape]
I love that solid! Not only is there a cube hidden in it that can be revealed if you draw line on the shorter face diagonals, as they showed in the video, but if you draw lines on the longer face diagonals, you get an octahedron!
Or a gigantic one that could walked around inside and out, but when you get inside you find a smaller one suspended centrally within the other… that combined with the mirror film could make not only an interesting museum/science center but also an interesting adventure into where someone on the inside between the two would appear in the mirrored lattice images
Adam : My mind is totally - BLOWN - ! You said at one point , { I think } " Now wait just one minute my brain has stopped working " . And all I could do at that point , is picture myself standing off in one corner , with my eyes crossed , my left hand scratching my head and right palm slapping myself on my forehead , over , and over again , and saying " Da Da Da " . Adam you amaze me ! I wish I had just a fraction of your talent . I cant wait to see you do that next one , you were speaking about , your excitement is infectious . Good luck Jack
@@0623kaboom You can say Kleenex and Scotch tape and they can't really sue you. Well, they *can* sue you, but it's highly unlikely that they would win. Once a trademark becomes genericized like that, it ceases to have any legal weight.
It’s _so_ nice to see some of my favorite RUclipsrs together, and it’s always extra awesome when they can both chat on the same level while also learning from each other. Peers edifying each other. Doesn’t get better than this. Thank you!
"GET IN YOUR HOME! ARE YOU TOO GOOD FOR YOUR HOME!" I love the Happy Gilmore quotes that you two seamlessly shared with one another. Also very thankful to see you two working together, I would love to see more content by this dynamic duo!
@UCsiO9As8FM17QyplKoLmxvw alright I'm normally fine with other peoples beliefs and all but don't do th ius shit in an old comment section makes you seem like a bible bashing dumb ass
it's been a month since the release of this video and i'm dying for the sequel to this nerd-royalty collaboration. please, stop the suspense! give us matt and adam and some delicious brain candy again.
I actually spent a lot of my childhood "discovering" shapes and shape combinations and I didn't even realize it... I was OBSESSIVE about finding new topology with my toys. What were they called... they don't sell them anywhere but japan anymore, but I had these toys called "flexeez" or something, and they had four snap points and they were super bendy. I found that connecting them in an interlocking loop with different amounts made them have to bend and make a ball, or they would be too many and it would get harder to put them together and they got all wobbly... one of the most interesting things to me was that six connection points made it a stable and flat shape. I would later learn that all this was teaching me different topological surfaces, and that they were a PERFECT analogy for non-euclidean space! Because the toys could bend, you could tile shapes that don't tile in normal flat 2d space, and things like tiling pentagons eventually formed a sort of 2d spherical space... Man, I need to get myself some toys again. I love maths.
Havent seen this in a while, and now rewatching it, I can appreciate the use of music (tango?) when they are wiring the inside of the mirrored shape. Nice job.
I had a class in jr high called platonic solids. Was one of my favorite classes ever and one of my favorite teachers ever. Thinking back, becoming a maker started there. Thank you for reminding me of a great memory. Def gonna build some of these.
For me, the Rhombic Dodecahedron is most famous due to it being the "dual" to the Cubeotahedron which Buckminster Fuller called the Vector Equilibrium. The points of the Rhombic Dodecahedron center on the faces of the Cubeotahedron and visa-versa. Also, [ a fun experiment] if you surround a clay sphere with other spheres [6 around 1], powder each, and compress them all into a tight ball, the center sphere becomes a Rhombic Dodecahedron. Significant! Thank you, Adam, for inviting Matt and sharing this project!!!
Maybe my favorite of Adam's and also of Matt's videos. This was SO MUCH FUN! I was only able to follow about half of the math geekery, but the whole thing was so enjoyable. Please collaborate more!
decide on a space it should fill ... make say a hexagon about 24 of them ... and then attach one to each side of a base hexagon ... then repeat for the top ... on every join put some type of light strip ... on every interior face use the 2 way mirror film close power and display ... it is NOT hard at all .. just LOADS of fiddly things to deal with
it's rrrrrrrreally interesting to see them work out the LED mapping. Not specifically for the outcome, but for the group dynamic and communication. Adam being brutally honest that he has stopped listening (well, his "brain has stopped taking on new information"), Matt trying to think it through on the fly under pressure (Adam started stimming by tapping his foot but caught himself), Adam identifying their difference in approach (satisfyer vs maximizer) and calling out their time shortage, Matt knowing when he has to resort to ripping fresh pieces of tape instead of trying to help with the complicated building, etc. You can see that these folks have worked in groups, know what to do and say to keep things moving without causing grievance, know their own strengths and weaknesses and play to them.
Hear Hear! this is quite possibly my favourite collaboration ever!
Unexpected chemistry between Adam and Matt, they need to do more!
I think it should be expected if you know both of them. And them also both being builders, math and science nerds.
Seemed like they were kinda pissed haha
Andrew Chapman I’m shipping them
Seriously! I don't know if tested is at all familiar with 3 blue 1 brown but he would make another great applied maths / making collaboration.
@@prochoicegamer Lol, given the different meaning that word has in the UK / Australia, your comment made me laugh 😂🍺
"This adds a lot of space to a room" that sentence made the 50 minutes worth the watch.
Knowing Matt, I wouldn't even be surprised if he thought of that punchline beforehand and it's what made him decide on this particular build
"It's bigger on the inside."
That throwaway line was so perfect 👌 😄
I read this comment and was like wtf? this was a five minute build??? check timestamp, well ok.
Apparently my adhd brain skipped all the boring parts and I didn't even notice
Came for the infinity box, stayed for the math puns.
"I'm psyched that there are ways to do this wrong"
I need this on a shirt.
What an epic statement
I was not expecting to hear them discuss the geopolitical situation of north-eastern Spain before the 3 minute mark. When it comes to dodecahedrons you'll usually need to wait for about 10 minutes. These men know their stuff.
And that even though Eugène Catalan, after which these are called Catalan solids, was a Belgian.
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No one expects the spanish inquisition.
Matt: *Nerding out about shapes.*
Adam: *Nerding out about tapes*
It rhymes lmao
Btw I have a good one,
lmao yeet
I peeled both of my toenails off of my feet.
Jamie standing somewhere, keep it simple, keep it simple. But no, Adam and Matt gotta overcomplicate stuff!.
I always loved Jamie's ability to above else keep project simple, almost to a fault.
They have no windows, so they can't nerd out about drapes. They have no refrigerator, so they can't nerd out about grapes.
@@skfok8472 ... Do you only have two toenails?
I like that, "It adds a lot of space to a room", infinite space.
It’s bigger on the inside
This is what happens when you combine a theoretical genius with a practical genius. They're both so excited it's infectious!
"It adds a lot of space to a room" made me smirk like a dork. This is amazing, I love it!
I noticed this comment just seconds after I started smirking at that line.
also infinite many of the stripes are off. But on the other side - 3 times as many are on^^
Does that mean the room would be bigger on the inside then?
They both looked so awkward at the beginning like "oh my god it's really him!" but their personalities collided in the best way, this was an awesome episode from two of my favorite mathematically-inclined RUclipsrs :D
They were definitely both star struck
"Branching?"
"Infinite amount aren't working"
I died.
This one day build is my favorite by far. I hope to see other people from Perodictable to Deepsky , I think they all have some build idea that'll be great. Sixty symbols! dang.
Adam Savage and Mike Merrifield, make it happen ! Or Philip Moriarty.
Lifari.
make this happen please and thank you
I have to say, this is quite possibly my favourite of all tested videos and collaborations ever! Matt and Adam have such great chemistry working together. This was a complete and utter joy to watch!
Matt: "we can no longer reorient either of these"
Adam: *instantly reorients one*
"How many engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?" "Three and a lot of backtracking."
I genuinely thought that was a well known joke (may still be), and spent a few moments trying to understand the punchline, however, after googling, it doesn't seem to be. I understand it now, and feel like an idiot... perhaps using the word 'wire' rather than 'change' might have saved my stupidity, but that's purely semantics... did make me chuckle when I finally realised :)
I love how Adam can literally connect to nearly everyone's passions and talk with them with the same amount of passion! It's a great feeling when you can get super technical on a subject and talk about your passions with others!
You're right. He gets on well with and meets some pretty awesome people! Meeting someone you connect with and can talk to on the same level, is very refreshing.
I mean he’s a genius as far as I can tell.
i'm an electrician who installs LED tape regularly. i was literally screaming at the screen while they were talking about running jumpers! you can feed +&- to the LED tape from any point. including where they intersect
@@harrietramos8691 this is the exact same comment above
Yes, he's great at it, part natural, part his time on MythBusters, part experience as the sales rep for his special effects work thru the years.
42:59
Matt: "Let's not move these again."
Adam: *proceeds to spin the thing multiple times*
Demonstrates why he and Jamie would butt heads!
It's two of my favorite people together geeking out over math. Best video ever.
It was one of the most-fun-to-film videos I've ever made.
I'm a simple man, I see Matt and Adam, I click
I've lost count of words I've never heard prior to this episode.
Felt so dumb dude
@I OFFER YOU THIS you should have watched the whole thing lol
"as long as we don't reorient that one, and don't reorient this one, we should be ok!" *moves them both*
Tfw you realize you played with the toys Adam made in a museum as part of a school field trip and you have proudly remembered your stellated rhombicosidodecahedron ever since.
I remember back in elementary school, my class made regular polyhedra Christmas tree ornaments. Little did we know, when we were told to make two of them, one was going to a Christmas tree at the art museum nearby just prior to our field trip to that museum. I was so excited to see my blue cube sitting on the "Gee, I'm a tree" exhibit in the lobby.
My elementary school took us on a field trip to a pig farm! 😎
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Matt wanting to continue to experiment so zealously but Adam having to ground him to get the project done was so wholesome. Such a wonderful interaction between you two.
@Ian Moore the Logistician wrangling in the architect or vice versa or both infinitely overlapping due to transposition
@@mathiasmilne that was very very sloppy AAR & we will sit hear all night until you get it right !! If you try use the word wholesome for Adam thats your TaP ouT......just close your eyes !! lmao /;*)
Ha Ha ga-a-aa...wait WHaT ?? w h a t !?! W H O L E S O M E lol ?? oK Ok shake it off man maybe just a typo calling Adam Savage wholesome he he dam man.... HERE ↓ ↓
▬ DEF: Wholesome: [adjective] promoting health or well-being of mind or spirit !!
...there are a few other definitions but thats the GIST of it
→ Would say Adam was aware, time aware & history as in prof. resume i.e. been here done it few times
MATT was just exhausting the POTENTIALITYS like he said ya !
HOW do you see wholesome working SO WHAT are you doing testing out your thesaurus capability ??
@@cameltube-vk7el I could have said it better. Thanks for your input
@@mathiasmilne he he, the W word just flag'd me hard lol. I am not with the grammar police, but words matter & I am a black-ops word agent..........guy /;^) Soooo ... W O R D !! lol
Peace Out
To be Adam's assistant on a project. Matt is so lucky!
To have an in person geometry lesson from Matt. Adam is so lucky!
The smile on Matt's face when Adam called him a friend is so wholesome.
Just that makes it look like he hasn’t had many friends growing up
IKR! I sure hope they are now nerd-besties... nerdsties...? Besterds...? Anyway, it’s not hard to spot someone who grew up alone, outcast from the “normal kids”. It’s a vulnerability that never fully heals. What stands out the most is the fact that they are eager to comfort and support others, though. Empathetic souls.
“ infinitely many of them aren’t working” could we call this “the Parker infinity “
You are classic man! Love you both!
at the end he mentions "it adds a lot of space to the room". you could argue it adds infinite space haha.
I laughed out loud when he said that, mainly because of HOW he said it. These guys are great.
Best statement in this episode had me LOLing!
i'm an electrician who installs LED tape regularly. i was literally screaming at the screen while they were talking about running jumpers! you can feed +&- to the LED tape from any point. including where they intersect
Now give us your wiring diagram for the dodecahedron ...
I was really hoping they went down that path. But oh well. Maybe in the future ☺️
While not screaming, I was groaning inwardly at how simple this way overthought problem would be and amazed why they did not see it. Oh well if math is what mathematicians enjoy doing, electricity is what electchickens enjoy doing; obviously non overlapping fields of study. (yes I can spell electrician, if you don't understand the intentional misspelling your missing out on a great channel)
It depends if it's a 5v strip, which you can cut/splice anywhere or a 12v+ strip where you can only cut/splice every n LEDs.
Ah, to be specific, it only matters if the strip is wired in parallel or in series parallel. These strips are parallel strips and would be fine to wire up from any point where there is a plus or minus.
When geniuses meet… This is absolutely one of the best One Day Builds ever.
That's what I thought, too! And that thing looks amazing. Surely there must be more math waiting to be built …
Exactly what I was about to comment!
I couldn’t stop smiling watching this lol
Matt: "lets not move the shapes."
Adam: (immediately moves the shapes)
#AdamThings
@@tested If 1 BinGooglez "HandCraftedMirrors" BoA..UK. I made a "Harlequin" secret-door mirror.. out of Antique'e glass, those diamonds were a bugbear.. Love these as hanging pendulum lights .. may prefer aluminium foil tape as bodge-gaurd... and yes there is a side to solar-vinyl ... I imagine you building one large enough for you to climb in..
@@tested where's the links to build our own!!!
@@tested seriously though where that link to the material build! Couldn't find it in any of the comments as far as I can tell. :) Would really love to make one of these. looks like a lot of fun.
I run my own wood working business and I have used a dodecahedron shape before to make a hanging light. Each face had scroll sawn Celtic knot elements on them. It was hollow to allow for a light to go inside. You guys have opened my mind to the possibility to utilize other solids (including this one) in the creation of even more varied light boxes. Love my man Mr. Adam Savage, always an inspiration.
So funny that at 8 minute they talk about 'how a math teacher would use this' - im sitting here (a math teacher) going, how can I have students play with this in my Geometry class...
Thank you for going the extra mile to get your students more interested in math, Teachers are an investment in society and it's a damn shame you folks aren't paid what you're actually worth.
I'm going to go against popular opinion here, but I feel that teachers who do not give students real life examples to relate the information to, are not worth paying as much as teachers who help the students discover the relevancy of the information through experimentation and self discovery. Not all teachers should be paid well. HillMath90, please do as you are thinking. My math teachers (private schools) has masters and doctorate degrees in math. They were not able to help me truly understand the subject. I ended up having the self educate using real world examples on my own time, outside of school, in order to understand math.
@@alexgagnon9414 Just because that's not how your learning process works, does not mean they're not worth paying less attention to for the general public.
@alex Gagnon I bet you are against the popular opinions quite often amirite
Please do that. You're sure to spark someone's passion if you let yours shine through your work. Also, if I recall correctly, Professor Matt Parker has a store with all kinds of interesting things. Mathematical puzzles, games, weirdly shaped(or numbered!)dice and even some excentric paperweights, literally and figuratively. I'm not sponsored, but I'd recommend you check it out if you havent done so already. There's probably at least a couple of things you could use in class, per subject, up for sale on the site. Cheers and utmost respect, Sir! :D
I always enjoy your content, but this is one of my favorite episodes ever. The intersection between making and math, the making physical that which is usually abstract, and the brainstorming and troubleshooting (particularly of the lighting) was absolutely fantastic to watch. I can’t wait to show my 8-year old the process you all went through during this. It’s sure to inspire him to want to do something similar.
The wonderful banter and interpersonal interactions added another fantastic layer to this video. Thank you for making this and if we get a vote, I’d vote for more collaborations between you two!
I love the fact that Adam knows what a "Parker-something" means
There is no escape.
@@monoamin_ The full term is Parker Square, see also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Parker#Recreational_mathematics_contributions
When did he say it?
There's an Adam savage listed as a patron for numberphile... Maybe that's the connection.
@@1.21gigamatts9 10:50
I recently got a fidget toy called a Shashibo that demonstrates perfectly that the rhombic dodecahedron is the inversion of a cube. It's a cube made up of twelve half-rhombic pyramids (Rhombic pyramid cut in half lengthwise along the rhombic face) and then attached to each other by stickers (across the faces) and magnets. The result is a cube that can fold into a bunch of shapes, but one of them is the Rhombic dodecahedron. I... might have had a info-dumping session with my spouse when I realized that. She now knows I have a favorite polyhedron. Ya know, nerd stuff.
Immediately broke out my own one of these and made my own rhombic dodecahedron (I am delighted)
"If one isn't working then infinitely many aren't working..."
I watched this preparing to be monumentally disappointed. When it turned on ... great!
that's how you know he's a mathematician
I love how well they exchange ideas, how fluid everything goes. This is one of my favorite videos of this channel.
“As long as we don’t reorient this...”
*Adam immediately reorients it.*
43:20 When they start to trace the steps where the LED strip should go - the tango music was a touch of genius. Someone give a cookie to the editor!
"It adds a lot of space to a room!" Haha - It's bigger on the inside.
So then they actually built a TARDIS from Dr Who?
Haha. Parker's the best!
So the doctors real name is parker
It's smaller on the outside!
PURE JOY!!! Proving once again: "Do we stop playing because we grow old, or do we grow old because we stop playing?"
There's also the crucial time aspect when you're an adult. This video makes money and if it didnt it wouldnt have happened. Unless of course they meet on a weekend. But if you have a family... Worked hard entire week.... Its obviously possible, just difficult in actual real life.
when the two smartest kids in class get paired for the lab... lol
That is perfect
Lol well said ..
I was coming to say something very similar to this
lol this is them after they finish 30 minutes early and have nothing else to do
@@TheMcm1998 I was thinking 2 weeks early on a 4 week project but yeah 😆
27:51 When you’re working on a group project/puzzle and one person has some part perfectly thought out which allows the project to move forward but no one else understands what happens at that part 😂🤣
Both stand there looking at the finished build
Matt: -"In theory, this should look incredible."
drawing the lines of the cube and explaining the "inside out" aspect of it was fascinating!
If you connect the other points of each rhombus, you get an octahedron. Wish they had mentioned that fun fact
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I love how Matt is like hey hang on why are u done already. And instantly looks down en does the math on how much faster Adam was. Mean while Adam is there already moving on to the next part of the project.
Absolute RUclips gold.
When they turn the light on, it genuinely looks like there‘a a whole other place inside of it! It works so well!!
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I love how he asks at this moment exactly if he can find the cube inside the shape because from the cameras perspective its looking at the perfect angle to see the cube!
A cube yes, but not the cube mentioned when they draw it up.
I love the way how Matt's systematic ways are thown away by Addams Chaotic personality
I got so excited when I saw “with Matt...” and it was indeed Matt Parker, but then it was even better than I expected. What a perfect collaboration.
Watching these guys geek out about shapes reminds me of how I felt when I solved a shape problem at work. Basically, I needed a shape for which the smallest box that could enclose it didn’t share a face with the mystery shape. When my coworker and I figured that it was a tetrahedron it was so satisfying. We immediately mocked it up by folding post it notes.
The whole scene of them planning the LED path brings me such joy.
Please do a coverage of the “real build” - this was so satisfying epic!
Adam and Matt are great together! I would love to see Matt come back for more math-inspired builds. One of my favorite builds on the channel so far.
"maths-inspired" :)
Only Adam Savage can make a video entertaining enough to watch three men troubleshoot a physical math equation 😎👍
That was a cool build!
The way the automotive stripping works it looks like it just applies with a squeegee and sponge,
but there are actually 2 layers of plastic, one is a clear plastic layer that seals in the adhesive layer on the back of the mirrored face from air. The soap is used to help apply this adhesive and not have it stick til you squeegy out all the liquid. at least in my experience. You can easily test this by putting a piece of tape on both sides of the mirror stripping near a corner, and it pulls apart.
No wonder it looked bubbled when it was all assembled.
officially one of the coolest thing's i have ever seen
I know right?! I hope Adam makes a polished version soon!
@@cybertree I hope he makes a polished kit to sell. I want one.
Heck, just the THUMBNAIL is one of the coolest pics I've seen in a while!
@@wirelesmike73 That would be do dope! Hell I'd even be happy with a supplies list!
49:30 is just the best optical illusion ; you made a cube
I have hated maths for so very long because I found the numbers difficult to imagine, but Matt just gave me the key to better understanding and being able to visualise those numbers in "finding and exploding patterns." Thank you so very much for that. Mind Blown!
So you know it's "exploiting" the patterns. You find a pattern, then you use it. :)
As soon as they lit it up, I felt the need to have one on my nightstand. Absolutely beautiful.
Adam, Matt, this is stunning! If you do end up making this "for real," please release a parts list for it because I'd love to make one!
This would be an amazing free time hobby project to do
A large, well-made one of those would be an amazing living room table.
I’m actually planning to build one.
First, I plan to make a miniature one into a sort of lamp.
Actually, it would be kinda crap, given how much space it takes up with that tiny horizontal face on the top 😜 Maybe if you add a large glass top, but not sure how that affects the visual effect (adding its own refractions)
You embed it 1/2 into the the top of a solid table surface, it would look like a portal or huge area inside
I want one
i would put it on a stand where the wire comes in so it stands up like the inside-out cube (also allows a place for wiring with a switch)
This was an “infinitely” satisfying build and collaboration!! Definitely one of my favorite videos on this channel. Thanks Adam and Matt!
I love how they had to make a complex 3d map of the wiring, and watching them try to wire it up is like trying to assemble complicated Ikea furniture.
43:03- "so let's not move this again, and not move that again"
43:15 - *begin rearranging both
adam: "is there a solid where all the faces are the same but one"
pyramids: "am I a joke to you"
@@Daiceto Works the same with pyramids...
@@Daiceto Actually he specifically didn't mean a tetrahedron since all the faces on that are the same.
I would assume so as he suggests a hexagonal base pyramid not the typical square based one.
C Lopez Why not?
@@hazerod833 To be a true "geometric solid", all sides must be equilateral. In this case, all but one side. If you cut an equilateral hexagon into 6 pieces, you'll get 6 equilateral triangles, all laying flat. There is no way to make them into a pyramid. Now, take one out and you can make a pyramid with a pentagon base, but you'll never get a pyramid from 6 equilateral triangles.
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When 1 question just flips the table lol
That one thing just really changed the whole thing from what it was to is lol
When you were talking about routing the LEDs, I got excited as a CS student. It made me think back to the path finding algorithms I studied in college. It's always exciting seeing the ways my (or any) field of study comes into play for a problem.
"that is how you build a tesseract" falls somewhere here.. I can totally see how this can be made as a comsumer's product- each rombus has LEDs on all 4 sides with magneticaly connected electronic corners. One 12v plug and NO INSTRUCTIONS included. have fun kids!
Yessss!!
I actually 3D printed stuff like this about 2 years ago, it doesn’t really work and it’s patented already
What would happen if the put the led’s where Adam drew the lines to make the cube inside of it and all the sides were one way mirrors would it look like an infinite array of cubes held within this odd shape?
Rules for DnD:
1: Do not assign agency to the polyhedron.
2: In case of bad throws, DO assign agency to the polyhedron.
the d20 is an icosahedron not a dodecahedron.
or the gyroelogated pentagonal bipyramid.
@@nogapres3007 d12 much?
@@nogapres3007 You can buy rhombic dodecahedron d12s. Granted, the d12 is the ugly duckling of dice in D&D, but you can have some extra.
+[Noah Presti]
The person you replied to didn't mention either dodecahedrons nor icosahedrons anywhere in their comment.
They only mentioned polyhedrons. And, since "poly" means "many" and "hedron" means "(geometric) face", the icosahedron and both the pentagonal and rhombic dodecahedrons are polyhedrons.
The best part of this is watching them struggle the same way I do while trying to visualize all this. I love that it's not simply explaining "this is how it works" it shows the struggle to get there too.
“We can no longer reorient these”
*immediately starts reorienting both of them* 😂
I had a moment where I thought Adam had a single painted nail, which seemed very him for some reason, and then realized he'd just crushed a nail and that also seemed very himself and I had myself laughing at my own thoughts. Not at all where I thought I'd be with this very geometry loving episode. Love this.
He's fairly metrosexual but I don't see him painting a single nail as a fashion statement lol
Matt: "I'm only hesitant because stellated is an ill-defined operation in geometry." Moments later, "It's a pointiafied..."
It's a Parker definition
Sam Sowden García thats unfair because it’s a made-up word that gets the point across
AIUI the term they're looking for is "cumulated" - stellated is done by extending the faces of the inner shape, cumulated is when you stick pyramids on [they're easily because they often result in the same shape]
@@peterbutterjam97 the *point* across
I love that solid! Not only is there a cube hidden in it that can be revealed if you draw line on the shorter face diagonals, as they showed in the video, but if you draw lines on the longer face diagonals, you get an octahedron!
Can we see more Adam and Matt? I loved the project and the dynamic even more!
We'd love that too!
31:50 Adam: Just to be clear we're going to do this badly.
Matt: *Looks at camera* That's my specialty.
One of the coolest builds I've ever seen. There should be a whole walk-through gigantic version of this at like a museum/fair.
Or a gigantic one that could walked around inside and out, but when you get inside you find a smaller one suspended centrally within the other… that combined with the mirror film could make not only an interesting museum/science center but also an interesting adventure into where someone on the inside between the two would appear in the mirrored lattice images
@@mathiasmilne i want one already 🤪
48:00 infinite amounts of them are not working 😂
There is quite a big one at the paradox museum in Oslo
Adam : My mind is totally - BLOWN - ! You said at one point , { I think } " Now wait just one minute my brain has stopped working " . And all I could do at that point , is picture myself standing off in one corner , with my eyes crossed , my left hand scratching my head and right palm slapping myself on my forehead , over , and over again , and saying " Da Da Da " . Adam you amaze me ! I wish I had just a fraction of your talent . I cant wait to see you do that next one , you were speaking about , your excitement is infectious . Good luck Jack
Matt Parker, quietly "this is both satisfying and terrifying." Yep, can relate.
Asexual, I like the way you roll
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Ace flag!!!
Er... I mean.... me too?
Adam Savage: "We're using math to build shapes!"
Fjord in my head: "Anybody wanna take a hit off the dodecahedron?"
eeeeeeeldritch blast
I was thinking the same thing, at the end. I’m now curious if either Adam or Matt are Critters.
Everyone who understands your comment gets a mote of possibility
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Was not expecting Matt Parker on this channel. Was definitely not expecting Crit Role in the comments. Bidet, fellow critter!
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Adam: "we have some Sellotape here, as you would say in the UK"
Matt (From Australia and not the UK): "thats the one"
Jef often called sellotape in Australia too.
He most likely said that because Matt Parker lives in the UK.
He lives in the UK lol.
Cellotape ... avoids the brand name we use up here ... like facial tissue ... instead of ..
@@0623kaboom You can say Kleenex and Scotch tape and they can't really sue you. Well, they *can* sue you, but it's highly unlikely that they would win. Once a trademark becomes genericized like that, it ceases to have any legal weight.
@45:15 For me this has the vibe of a rally car driver partnered with their navigator in their passenger seat.
It’s _so_ nice to see some of my favorite RUclipsrs together, and it’s always extra awesome when they can both chat on the same level while also learning from each other. Peers edifying each other. Doesn’t get better than this. Thank you!
"GET IN YOUR HOME! ARE YOU TOO GOOD FOR YOUR HOME!" I love the Happy Gilmore quotes that you two seamlessly shared with one another. Also very thankful to see you two working together, I would love to see more content by this dynamic duo!
When you find that one friend at a party that actually understands you😂 and everyone else is confused
@UCsiO9As8FM17QyplKoLmxvw alright I'm normally fine with other peoples beliefs and all but don't do th ius shit in an old comment section makes you seem like a bible bashing dumb ass
"Everyone else is confused" is the working title of my autobiography
ikr! I throw my rubbish on the floor too!
11:02 It makes me happy that Parker had to think about it for a moment.
it's been a month since the release of this video and i'm dying for the sequel to this nerd-royalty collaboration. please, stop the suspense! give us matt and adam and some delicious brain candy again.
best 1 hour video of two guys building a box i've seen in a while
It's somehow the reverse of an unboxing video... but definitely not a boxing video.
48:17 it's almost perfect. What a Parker build!
I actually spent a lot of my childhood "discovering" shapes and shape combinations and I didn't even realize it... I was OBSESSIVE about finding new topology with my toys.
What were they called... they don't sell them anywhere but japan anymore, but I had these toys called "flexeez" or something, and they had four snap points and they were super bendy. I found that connecting them in an interlocking loop with different amounts made them have to bend and make a ball, or they would be too many and it would get harder to put them together and they got all wobbly... one of the most interesting things to me was that six connection points made it a stable and flat shape. I would later learn that all this was teaching me different topological surfaces, and that they were a PERFECT analogy for non-euclidean space! Because the toys could bend, you could tile shapes that don't tile in normal flat 2d space, and things like tiling pentagons eventually formed a sort of 2d spherical space...
Man, I need to get myself some toys again. I love maths.
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I forgot, everything is a hat to Adam.
Oh my god Matt Parker and Adam Savage are two of my favorite people ever. I screamed when I saw the thumbnail!
I don't think I've ever started watching a video so quickly.
Guys, this colab needs to happen way more often
Havent seen this in a while, and now rewatching it, I can appreciate the use of music (tango?) when they are wiring the inside of the mirrored shape. Nice job.
I had a class in jr high called platonic solids. Was one of my favorite classes ever and one of my favorite teachers ever. Thinking back, becoming a maker started there. Thank you for reminding me of a great memory. Def gonna build some of these.
New recurring series?" Adam and Matts Mathmagical!"
Math-o-magic?! Did you invite the lizards?
Mathemagical
Mathgical
For me, the Rhombic Dodecahedron is most famous due to it being the "dual" to the Cubeotahedron which Buckminster Fuller called the Vector Equilibrium. The points of the Rhombic Dodecahedron center on the faces of the Cubeotahedron and visa-versa.
Also, [ a fun experiment] if you surround a clay sphere with other spheres [6 around 1], powder each, and compress them all into a tight ball, the center sphere becomes a Rhombic Dodecahedron. Significant!
Thank you, Adam, for inviting Matt and sharing this project!!!
I love Matt's sense of humor, this collab worked great. Also, when you lit the finished build, amazing
Maybe my favorite of Adam's and also of Matt's videos. This was SO MUCH FUN! I was only able to follow about half of the math geekery, but the whole thing was so enjoyable. Please collaborate more!
The whole time im thinking about polyhedral dice, someone needs to show this to the critical role team.
lol all i kept thinking was Matt describing Caleb looking into the beacon and seeing infinite versions of himself
Matt's company "cool maths gear" actually makes super interesting dice, including a rhombic dodecahedron d12
Critical “roll”
I KNOOOOOOOW!😁😁
@@eoghanmyers2330 I love the skew dice
3:42 Would love to see the instructions of how to build this. Particularly the materials used.
decide on a space it should fill ... make say a hexagon about 24 of them ... and then attach one to each side of a base hexagon ... then repeat for the top ... on every join put some type of light strip ... on every interior face use the 2 way mirror film close power and display ... it is NOT hard at all .. just LOADS of fiddly things to deal with
Very important - the big angle on the rhombus must be exactly acos(1/3) or appx. 70.528779 deg (or 0.391826552π rad). Or else it won't work.
One of my favorite video on youtube.