I happen to be a gamer who likes all genres but have a particular obsession with fighting games and card games. I feel happy to be able to enjoy so many things but its hard to find time to go as hard as i would wish
@Blballerboy you name it I probably play know how to play it, but I'd say main games rn are Netrunner, Cardfight Vanguard, and Digimon. Sorta waiting for a good chance to hop back into mtg or Yu-Gi-Oh. But living is very expensive rn so I've quit playing those two.
I also feel the same, I really enjoy most genres but I limit myself to playing 3 games that I commit to playing regularly so that I won’t get burnt out trying to catch up to other games
this is what we call, choice paralysis, it's the same thing that happens when you look at your shelf of physical games or you see all the games in your steam library yet you don't know which one to play, there's so much choice that making a choice feels impossible because it feels like your missing out on something else by making a choice
Reminds me of when I was a kid, my dad got me a PlayStation and I had 100+ games. All of those options and I typically played the same 10 games. I tried a lot more than 10 but definitely not every game
This is why Ive never learned an anime fighter super in depth, because I feel like the time investment might not be worth it if the community isnt there. Which is why I stick with tekken and sf despite me liking anime fighters more.
Agreed. But I do love stepping outside the two. It's so refreshing, and GBFVSR fills that extremely well it's wild. But it's also tough when I come back I have no idea what time doing anymore/my fingers are all confuzzled 😂 plus if you support those games it helps the community and leads to innovation in the long run.
So glad GBVR has been given a new life, having so much fun with it. Definitely trying not to give into the "but what about..." with the new games coming. Tekken's the one that I'm most likely to go "but I 'should' be playing that instead" for whatever reason, though I still want to see that the online is actually up to the other stuff out there now. French Bread's games are very cool but I know that they're not really for me. Gonna try real hard to stick on GBVR and hopefully they'll continue to bring it on supporting the game.
Not for me, Tekken 8 is easily the main fighting game for me as it stands out as the only 3D fighter of the bunch. For 2d fighters I can see it being more of an issue though.
Sure the T8 have been released since more than one year now and you had "all the time" to test it and "suffer" of the "bad" online... 🙄 Seriousely T8 is not yet here... I played the CNT and the CBT and the online matchmaking was great so far. I had some connection issue in very few matches and most of the time they were Wifi players. No reasons the final version maybe less good than the 2 betas.
I dont see any of this as a problem. I still play UMVC3 and face the same 2 or 3 dudes every time. As long as there's one other person playing the game i love thats what matters. I could never see a problem with having more choices
I think the options we have these days are great. I got fed up with my hardware not running MK1 well, so I hopped on SF6 with a friend and started guilty gear strive for when I'm alone. Now I'm currently tilted from strive and will try granblue for free until under night 2 releases. The variety is great and I love being able to play different fighting games if I get tilted from my main game, that being strive.
It is not just that it's too much to play, you're not even taking into account that for you to leave the casual-enthusiast level of a fg you will need to invest hours training specific things in specific scenarios on top of maintaining your execution sharp and your knowledge of the game on point. I developed this fear to enter a fighting game cause i know how much i would get involved and that i don't would get satisfied with just a bnb and be a casual for the rest of its lifetime. If you're wondering i played Gen in usf4 at some sort level as xian with piano fadc cancels and all the jazz of the specific combos for different hurtboxes for the entire roster. I tried to play sfv with one of the less limited chars Urien but i wasn't able to invest the time i wanted and i felt frustrated with my time and my hunger to master every japan setup video for the mirror combos and setups. When fighting games get easier for sure sucks, but also even if you could invest the same time as in our teenage years you shouldn't if you will not get something big in exchange as a youtube channel a twitch stream or so. It's not a waste of time it's fun and better with a community that travels and such but it's also time, that you will not have in the future, unless you're rich. But yeah, i am talking about just picking one game not 2 simultaneously, just one but for real. 2 is way too much even for paid gamers. No , tokido did not count , this is the same reason he stopped. The same for others. The only reason Chris G keeps entering 10 tournaments per major is because he knows no one trains and cause he already have somehow a stream and such generating. But you barely see people entering more than 1 tournaments at majors, specially on new or current titles. In short, invest your time one year per game and you will get the best of what you're looking for. Unless you're rich and you can just eat years and not go bankrupt.
I very casually got into fighting games during dbfz- not because of the franchise (though I love it) - but because of the visual fidelity. Walking into a community of senior fgc players didn’t scare me, but not being able to tell what I did wrong in MVC3 with a thousand particle efffects and less clear animations turned me off from it. DBFZ let me learn the basics and dig a little deeper, but I never went all the way. Then Guilty Gear came out and I was hooked. The animation fidelity was there. The strong offense was there, but defensive options were soooo much better. It gave me enough counter play to spend some time in the lab and sink my teeth into it. I know many content creators have already talked about it - but cool characters and satisfying animations really bring the casual audience in. It just so happened that the rest of the game let me go all in and understand the finer points of frame data, set play, etc. I’m hype for all the new games, but I did start to feel fatigue - glad to see that I’m not the only one, but weirdly it’s let me really appreciate going back and learning how to “master” the last generation of titles. Not being worried about patch rotations lets me sit in SF5 and grind out optimals and learn real footsies. It’s almost like the new game fatigue has pushed me into playing older games so that I can learn at a slower pace while juggling work, social games, and the like. All in all I’m excited for the future of fighting games.
For new games, I'm interested in Tekken 8. Generally, I prefer Soulcalibur or Dead or Alive over Tekken, but since neither of those have a new installment on the horizon, I (and probably a lot of other 3D fighting game players) will be playing it. The demo was pretty fun, too (and worked on Steam Deck--a real surprise). I'm curious about Rivals 2, but I'm worried. Melee is the Smash installment I enjoy the least, so I'm not sure if I would like a game that touts similarity to it. That, and there isn't a character who really sticks out to me, unlike with most other games. Aside from those, I'm enjoying Granblue, SF6, and want to get better at SamSho. I'd like to try MK1 as well since I've never played an NRS game, but the PC port isn't good (and it doesn't work well on Steam Deck).
It's glorious I remember just a few years ago we were desperate for new games but now fightcade reviving old games and the new games coming out all the time I feel spoiled af
GBVSR is probably the only fighter I'm gonna play the most simply cause I know I'm not gonna have the time to play all of them cause work. Fighting games are truly a second job lol
Growing up on the Arcade fighting game boom I never saw too many fighting games as a problem ... I played street fighter 2 then fatal fury then Darkstalkers then art of fighting then fighters history heck even Shaq fu 😅 😂 king of fighters and world heroes and so on the more the marrier 😂... then again all I play is 90% fighting games
As melty blood player, Doa player, tekken player( yeah , go even move forward) i am happy that fighting games became top topic recently, hopefully doa would also make a come back very soon (5:07 i just notice, you only used fate characters in your melty blood clip, then i guess you are a fan of fate series, well although overall the whole nasuverse is cool nonetheless)
I'm not a fate fan it was just the footage I had and most of the DLC in that game is Fate lol. I don't know the lore of either franchise I just like fighting. Is Mario a Fate character?
Soo true - rightnow playing gbvr and loving it big time, but when tekken 8 comes out, I dont know if I will find time to play two fighting games at the same time. So much to learn but dont have the time
Rivals of Aether reminds me of Digimon Rumble Arena on the PS1 and PS2 era. Would be nice to get one of those in the present days. The Evolve mechanic is something that the Platform Fighter could benefit from.
Really? I personally feel like I have too little to play, pretty much every major fighting game lately has released or will release without regional pricing so they're prohibitively expensive, the only fighting games I've played from this year are yomi hustle which is 5 dollars and the granblue free version, and of the games coming out next year I'm only planning on getting R2 since T8 and uni2 are confirmed to not have regional pricing. I value regional pricing as the most important thing for a fighting game to have, more than rollback, more than good singleplayer, those things don't matter if the playerbase can't actually afford the game
What country are you located in if you don't mind me asking? I want to do a video covering this in the near future because it's such a big problem. You can reach me on twitter if you feel like it too btw
@@qmanchu I live in Peru, we have it the least bad in terms of regional pricing for South America (games without regional pricing are normally twice their usual price) but I have online friends in other places who often talk about how expensive stuff is, Argentina in particular probably has it the worst in the whole world, their economy is so bad that games without regional pricing are 10 times more expensive than usual. I don't have twitter though so I can't chat through there
Suffering from success is really all it is! Love to see it but I'm curious what effects this might have in the long run. We told them all we needed was rollback for us to play. Now it's time to pay up haha
Alright... but Capcom alone was making too many fgs from the mid to late 90s... and SNK made much more fgs than Capcom, which even lasted longer... and besides those were other companies making fgs often like Midway (MK)... And besides those there was a solid wave of minor fgs on arcade and console exclusives. A single company released new games literally in 1-3 years. (3 years was even a "too long" wait in terms of the 90s fg scene)
Oversaturation is definitely a danger for new games especially when old games that are already great still exist I think there is definitely too much of them and they should probably focus more on something that sets them apart and makes them worth playing
Excellent video! I'm finding myself in this exact dilemma and it's both a blessing and a curse! I already bought GBVSR, and I'll probably spend most of my gaming time with it, it's just too good! I like so much more than everything that's out right now, and I don't expect that to change any time soon (there is so much to learn and practice!), but I also want to play some TK8 and especially UNI2. For me, it was either buy UNI2 or TK8, and I was thinking of getting UNI2, just because TK8 will still have 1k+ regular players after two years, and TBH, I like UNI way more than TK, but now I'm actually planning to buy both on release and just dabble with them on the side along with GBVSR. Basically, I plan to play GBVSR three days a week, UNI2 two days a week, and TK8 once a week. The remaining day of the week I cyble between Xrd, GGST and BBCF, or any novelty that happens to drop that week (like a beta or maybe the official release of DBFZ rollback etc...). I am also very interested in ROA2 because I don't play any platform fighters and I'm thinking it would be my gateway into them, as it is the one that seems closest to Smash on PC. BTW, 12:50 it's been a long time since I have the weapon but I believe you can craft it in Siero's shop for either Katalina or Vira, and it will give you the trophy, but you'll have to grind for the materials (medals especially are RNG and pretty low drop rate). Still, different quests have a higher drop rate for specific weapons, and while I don't remember which ones give you Luminiera's Blade, it will probably be one where you fight either Katalina or Vira as a boss in hard mode, so try clearing that quest fast and use the support skill that increases drop rate (twice, for your character and the partner) along with the Vyrn weapons that do the same in the grid. Hope it helps! I fully sympathise with you on this trophy quest, as myself too am stuck with two of Anre's weapon skins (although they're not tied to a trophy) and I still don't have the two trophies where you have to play a quest with another player online...
Ive been learning Tekken for the past month or so and im hyped for T8. Winning feels so rewarding and i also feel like losing isnt terrible because im still learning the game and my opponent. Dante for T8?
Still literally no fighters to play until Project L, as none of my friends are willing to pay the insane prices every fighting game demands. From 10 player discord fighters to the big boys, they all demand full box price plus big chunks for DLC characters or season passes. Meanwhile they jump around and play every other genre freely, investing in cosmetics and stuff where they want to.
Yeah, all my hopes are in Project L as well. If it does well it might create enough competition for the "big fish" to finally get off their asses and improve their games (more features, better online, more generous DLC).
There's no problem in any of this. For a niche to thrive there needs to be a balance of quantity and quality of products to cather to different demographics. As someone that's mainly playing Grandblue and Rivals of Aether, I can confirm that the learning process is as fun as just doing casual matches.
More choice is always good but in the fighting games having a lot of them is extremely frustrating as a fan because you know damn well how stupid 99% of modern FG and how atrocious their DLC balance and MTX model is.
Maybe fgs nowadays can be the most expensive console gaming genre for a big fg consumer with large rage of interest (the one who buys every or almost everything)... If you count the total spendings on SF, MK, TK, KOF, SC, each Arc System fg, other minor fgs, indie fgs, etc.
Were people really complaining about that? 2 years ago we had Melty, KOFXV, and DNF Duel, Multiversus, and who knows what else I'm missing (not including updates for SFV and T7). That's crazy to think
@qmanchu I vividly remember people being like "there's a dry spell in the FGC right now" I could be wrong on the time frame but it's just funny to me 🤣 people get what they want and now it's "too much"
Another issue is that, now, fighting games are much more expensive than in the arcade days. Back then, kids could go to the arcade regularly and get good at a ton of games with only pocket change from their parents. Now, there are the same number of "must play" games, and you have to pay full price for all of them plus DLC. Yes, the arcade era had its own problems, but at least credits were cheap.
And the 00s had much less option than the 90s. All Capcom fg franchises were already dead for example, except MvC... But since MvC2 was exactly from 00, maybe that doesn't count to debunk the statement. And CvS was made in 00 and the sequel in 01, and died. Also from SNK, only KoF and Samsho were alive in the 00s among fgs, when they had 6 fg franchises in the 90s.
I chose the late 90s and early 2000s cause I felt that’s when EVO and the FGC really took off. There were many quality games in those eras that’s why they’re GOATs. Some of the other notable games had people playing at my local arcades. DOA, VF, Soul Calibur, Vampire Saviour, and some other niche titles. It’s 2024.. of course those games wouldn’t be trending now. They’re over 2 decades old. My response was to the title as I found myself playing a lot of fighting games back then.
i dont pay rent have my own house so i preordered already 9 games on the psn store like Tekken,FF7, Dogma 2, yakuza, granblue etc i can see why normal people might struggle though with all new game releases
I feel like the fighting game community has such a hard time just enjoying a game. And has alot of..fare weather fans. It doesn't help alot of people have kinda..gotten addicted to the patch hype. And if a game isn't getting constant patches,updates, DLC, it dies. Unless it's the big 3 sf,mk,tekken. Anything els 2 to 3 months in they moving to another game or going back to play something familiar. There's no more. It is what it is when it comes to fighting games. It's easier to just go play something els or wait for a patch to take out somthing you don't like. I believe that's why the big 3 always last simply because they are most well known games. That get the most support. So even 2 or 3 months in. It really doesn't matter. More people will always be watching the tournaments, attending them. The prize pools bigger. The genre is kinda backed into corner and very few want it to come out. Why play game full of unfamiliar characters when they can keep going back to the same faces over and over and over again. With the same mechanics and gamplay, move sets, costumes. We've gotten so addicted to familiarity.
I just go with the flow it's not like Tekken 8 or SF6 will be gone in the foreseeable future (already got SF6) ill pick up Tekken 8 with a discount at some point maybe or maybe not, i enjoy GBFVR for now
About Sajam wanting Rollback, all I want for a Fighting Game is: "Does it have a good Single Player? Does it have content, replay value and progress to have my desire to keep coming back, or will it be barebones, all 100% unlocked and with no content other than "get good" as Counter-Strike?" I'm a good racing player thanks to Gran Turismo, because it has an amazing Career and progress, thus making me want to learn more and eventually get me Online. Fighting Games has... "Gran Turismo License Test"-like modes, a repetitive story gameplay that ask me "Why not expand Arcade since it's basically that?" and everything's unlocked that makes me want to retire quickly. That's my 2024 crisis... Well, Fighting Games in general, unless we're talking about Smash Bros. like Brawl.
@@illford ...Yeah? I probably spend +200 Hours in Brawl, and for a good reason. Subspace Emissary, Classic, All-Stars (Classic but bit different), Missions(?), 3 Mini-Games, Boss Rush, custom modes, custom stages and more stages other than a flat one. And on top of all that, the game isn't complete on the start. Collecting Trophies, Stickers and unlocking fighters was a blast! Especially when the game rewards you for playing other characters, difficulties and modes, which means experimenting and dedication is found on me, something other Fighting Games fails other than "It's there, if you like." Now I heard -seen the Online is trash, and yes tripping is BS, *I did lost many times because of that,* but I could see myself playing Online. Compared to DNF Duel: Battle, Battle but story, Battle but Arcade, Battle but Survival (all Battles contain the same stage), Training, Combo Trail... *Oh like ALL Fighting Games, basically?* You see what I mean?
I remember when I used to play by myself in fighting games, and I always like Vs. CPU mode because I could play whoever I wanted against any character I wanted at any stage. But Tekken 6's scenario campaign was really fun, and TTT2's combot tutorial mode thingy was cool too. I'm excited to see what offerings single player-wise will be available in Tekken 8, even if I would mostly be playing online. Two questions 1.) Is Gran Turismo 7 worth buying? 2.) Do I need to wheel to effectively play the game?
@@deco7217 1) Not sure. I don't have GT7. I heard it's lacking in many areas but to tell it's not worth it I'm not sure. 2) The GTs I play has its Online servers shutdown or no Online, so... Well, you *can* win races Online with a controller (L2/R2 and the analog stick(s) ), just like I can beat mouse and keyboard player with a controller in Shooters. Just make sure to adjust your driving sensitivity and others that fits you/your vehicle. And, importantly, not all controller are equal (even outside of controllers), even from the same company. I once had a PS3 controller by Sony with a stick of an accuracy of a "Contol Freek" accessory. ...Just once, out of 5+. It was awesome! (Now you see why people say controllers can't "compete") Now yes, a wheel gives you more range of steering and pressing pedals than a controller, thus easier to maintain an angle, and while safe I'd say test out your controller first to see if you're happy or not with the results. I sure need a new controller... The new one I have had bad deadzones, with the analog sticks reaching 100% of input without pushing 100% of the sticks. (Not made by Sony)
I tried it since it's been free. But it's just another one of those older games getting updates that I mentioned. I'm not here to list them all. I didn't have an Xbox or PC until recently so no I never played the newest one till it just got the free update :) Already got a video in the works about it
As a tekken player players who play tekken a lot rarely venture of into other games compared to other audiences. And most ppl who play multiple FGC games drop tekken so tbh you might aswell remove tekken from the list. Cus if you start getting into it you won’t be playing anything else heheheheh
Nah I think Tekken will end up as a casual game for a lot of people. it's very popular casually but a lot of people simply can't wrap their heads around it, which is fair tbh those movelists are absurd
That’s how I feel as a tekken player as well lol sad they made so many characters easier to play like Jin. I may just Main Bryan and not use qcb1 to handicap myself
I see absolutely everyone coming to tekken eventually. The other games just aren't as deep and tend to get thrown away after a few months, besides maybe SF, but sf6 is kinda meh after the honeymoon phase. Ive been playing tekken for like the last 3 years nonstop after coming to tekken as a new player from FPS games and SF
Tekken is the creme de le creme, it's all you need to play for now, SC6 and Vf5 are still there to play, not sure if everything in those two games are fully explored especially SF6
I don't know about Granblue man, even though it's Arcsys it looks incredibly generic, on top of that I tried the free version and my fight stick nor my controller works while many of the kb inputs aren't working... couldn't even navigate properly through the menu... just ended up uninstalling eventually.
Uhhh what. There is no other fighting game to think of aside from T8... Why even compare it to any of those homebrew hacks that can barely call themselves games let alone fighting games...
@@kye4216 pretty sure you meant furry, and there's like 2 animals and one tentacle monster in the whole game. The one you're thinking of was on gamecube/ps2 called Bloody Roar, or possibly Smash Bros...
Maybe its just me but even being into fighting games, and having all these new ones coming out, its not really a matter of "either this or this" its more like "would i be interested in the first place"? Cause while theres a lot of games i might try out, At least for me, it doesnt matter when it comes out. if we're talking about ones you would put a lot of time into, i dont think i would have in the first place. Not all fighting games have the same appeal, or game feel. But admittedly, having releases with only a week between doesnt really make sense. Maybe the devs think theres not as much overlap either?
Ehhh GBVSR and uni are gonna become discord fighters quickly, I reckon DBFZ will have a solid playerbase once Rollback is officially added to the game but it still won't rival Tekken, MK, or SF. I reckon it's just gonna be what we've been seeing this entire time, just a ton of focus around established games, if arcsys releases a new anime fighter like DBFZ though with rollback on release I could easily see that taking up a huge portion of the fgc playerbase depending on what IP the game has.
I'm 43 I've played fighting games casually offline throughout the decades and last year i decided to get into fighting games, so here is my "tragedy" 😂. So i decided to get into fighting games but since i couldn't do proper inputs with controllers i decided to save money for an arcade stick (this was in late 2022), a few months later 2023 i finally bought the stick, i could finally do everything properly (yes the people who say that a stick won't improve your experience are lying of course, influencers are very good at gaslighting) so i was so happy, i was playing arcade games on the stick and that was also cool. Ok so now i needed a fighting game, SF6 was coming and i was going to get that one, until Tekken 8 was announced, i only have money for one and it has to be Tekken, i also hate the new characters in SF6 so it made it easier to forget SF6. So I've been training with older fighting games offline, played almost every Tekken, until the day i finally got the T8 demo... It runs like hell on my PC 😭, my dreams are crushed i need a fighting game, i try GBFVR, it's another simplified controls game for casual players, new players are making 30hit combos like it's nothing while I'm playing with the classic inputs and basic combos, plus the game forces me to listen to the English voices if the other player is using English, this is not for me i hate streamlined games. So now the irony of having so many choices and nothing suits me besides Tekken. 😂 Street Fighter 6, i hate the new characters and aesthetics of the game. Mortal Kombat 1, female characters are horrible and everyone else is lame, best MK was MK9. Gbfvr is for casuals. King of fighters 15 is awesome but basically dead. Killer instinct, basically dead. Soul calibur 6, dead. Guilty gear... I'm not sure, i like the older ones better. BlazBlue, amazing but not many people play it. Undernight 2, i was never a fan, and it will have simplified controls too. So many choices but either they suck or they are mostly empty, and I'm not going to spend so much money on a game with so few players. Yeah i know this will trigger people but that's how it is, i really don't like simplified controls, new players like me should not be able to pull 20 to 30hit combos, they wouldn't be able to do that in BlazBlue. I guess I'll have to play another genre after all 🥴.
UNI did not have simple inputs. It updated its autocombo system called "smartsteer" which it already had in the previous version. In any case, you aren't going to be getting 20-30 hit combos with whatever the system ends up with as you fear. Also, I have never had a problem getting KOF XV matches, though I did hear this depends on your location. Not sure when you last tried it, but KOF XV improved their matchmaking and got crossplay at some point so your experience may have been before those changes.
@@acorteziii i didn't play KOF15 I've seen the low amount of players on steam charts which i know it's just pc but around 300 players is low and it will only decrease with the release of T8. About UNI2 that's good to know, but my biggest fear is a game dying of quickly and with so many fighting games the player base with spread out, this feels like the MMO rpg years when there was mmos all over the place and none could hold the player base except for the big names, i remember getting into empty mmos a lot 😂. Hey man really i appreciate your input, thanks for the information i might check out UNI1 single player to see if i like it. 👍
What is this heresy?! Market saturation?! Nonsense! How about perpetual annual growth?! Didn't think about that, huh? Surely the FGC, the customer base, will be exponentially bigger next year; surely they'll automagically saturate our every product; surely they'll want to pay more and more for more arbitrary conveniences and divvied up expressions of vanity; just like their wages do, am I right? lol, just kidding; let me fire some developers and quality control, brb. The stupidity of the observation on display here is solely rivalled by it's the lack of monetary exploitation, why'd you cheap out on the sense of pride and accomplishment I feel watching ads and sponsored sections?! How am I to enjoy this shit?! - the gaming industry, 2023
The legacy knowledge of Tekken is like basic mechanics in SF or knowing the difference between a string that is actually safe and one that looks safe but isn't.
I don't think anyone thinks that. But the fact there's multiple anime games by the same dev all competing with each other is an interesting thing to point out. DNF duel, GBVS, UNI, and DBFZ are all arcsystem works games and yet they'll be concurrently supported.
well, everybody is saying "there s so many fgames! fgame golden era! fgames r bac! what to play there s so many!!" i know all those types: some are long winded franchises(10yo) others relegends(sf6) i dont play sf. after a while i get bored & need my movement. kof 15 is nice but there hang ups there. uni doesnt seem to have any burst at all, & melty only one char interests me & i hope she s not going "onichan" all the time when fighting a certain character. to make it shorter, i have games i like & among those only tk8 is upcoming. @@qmanchu sega isnt even strting vf6 yet:"we need t think abot what vf can bring: other games got many spectacular things" vf6 might be ded already(meaning, fodder for acustomer type im not like t7 & sc6 are)
Am I the only one who thinks tekken 8 looks like a bad tekken game? They just keep doubling down on these scrubby gimmicks like power crush and rage arts , now we get heat and easy imputs . Yea no thanks I miss when comebacks where an achievement. And these rosters for modern fighters are ass. The people they leave out and the ones they bring back baffle me, they really bring back Alisa and lars every game when classics are missing. Who really likes Ed in sf more than gen .oh well they turn hehachi into easy mode anime girl so the simps will never let the mascot comeback .
That's the point... these games are all good. I didn't even name them all cuz the ones I mentioned were the one's I'm personally most excited for. But I'm curious what you are the good ones?
Probably won't happen I believe. The best hope for BB, and that's far from ideal, is that it gets absorbed by future GGs kinda like Final Fight chars in SF. With the difference that FF is related to SF in lore. So maybe something is made to force BB into the GG lore. After Akuma in TK7 story anything is possible. Or Arcsys starts a crossover franchise that lets BB appear... kinda like KoF became a home to protect chars from dead SNK franchises to fall into obscurity. Also like MvC sheltered Morrigan since the 1st one.
Nothing to worry about really. SF6 has gotten boring for now. Granblue is shallow. MK1 is dead already. Unist will have 3 players. Tekken 8 will be the best game this year.
I happen to be a gamer who likes all genres but have a particular obsession with fighting games and card games. I feel happy to be able to enjoy so many things but its hard to find time to go as hard as i would wish
I feel you brother
What card games you play?
@Blballerboy you name it I probably play know how to play it, but I'd say main games rn are Netrunner, Cardfight Vanguard, and Digimon. Sorta waiting for a good chance to hop back into mtg or Yu-Gi-Oh. But living is very expensive rn so I've quit playing those two.
I also feel the same, I really enjoy most genres but I limit myself to playing 3 games that I commit to playing regularly so that I won’t get burnt out trying to catch up to other games
@@franciscoc8228 I love vanguard but also just started getting into Flesh and Blood
this is what we call, choice paralysis, it's the same thing that happens when you look at your shelf of physical games or you see all the games in your steam library yet you don't know which one to play, there's so much choice that making a choice feels impossible because it feels like your missing out on something else by making a choice
Ooohhh...is that why people have such trouble picking prizes at the arcade?
@@gamesonastick it could also be that all the prizes below 500 tickets are trash
Reminds me of when I was a kid, my dad got me a PlayStation and I had 100+ games. All of those options and I typically played the same 10 games. I tried a lot more than 10 but definitely not every game
This is why Ive never learned an anime fighter super in depth, because I feel like the time investment might not be worth it if the community isnt there. Which is why I stick with tekken and sf despite me liking anime fighters more.
Honestly very fair. Lots of anime games can become barren quickly even if they're fantastic games
That's exactly my mindset and additionally the newest game from my favorite series(Guilty Gear) is not as fun as old ones. So Tekken ftw.
Agreed. But I do love stepping outside the two. It's so refreshing, and GBFVSR fills that extremely well it's wild. But it's also tough when I come back I have no idea what time doing anymore/my fingers are all confuzzled 😂 plus if you support those games it helps the community and leads to innovation in the long run.
Seeing Rivals 2 get mentioned here makes me happy. ROA is such a good game and deserves more love
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Personally it's super meh and is carried by custom characters
So glad GBVR has been given a new life, having so much fun with it. Definitely trying not to give into the "but what about..." with the new games coming. Tekken's the one that I'm most likely to go "but I 'should' be playing that instead" for whatever reason, though I still want to see that the online is actually up to the other stuff out there now. French Bread's games are very cool but I know that they're not really for me. Gonna try real hard to stick on GBVR and hopefully they'll continue to bring it on supporting the game.
🫡 fighting the good fight. That game is very good. I've loved it since day 1
Not for me, Tekken 8 is easily the main fighting game for me as it stands out as the only 3D fighter of the bunch. For 2d fighters I can see it being more of an issue though.
Too bad T8 online will suck.
Sure the T8 have been released since more than one year now and you had "all the time" to test it and "suffer" of the "bad" online... 🙄 Seriousely T8 is not yet here... I played the CNT and the CBT and the online matchmaking was great so far. I had some connection issue in very few matches and most of the time they were Wifi players. No reasons the final version maybe less good than the 2 betas.
@@ogamitaicho77 you could literally play with jap players and have a decent time if both players were on cable "online will suck" bahaha
I got samurai showdown as an early b'day present. It's a shame no-one is playing it but it's fun and I want to improve at the series :)
I dont see any of this as a problem. I still play UMVC3 and face the same 2 or 3 dudes every time. As long as there's one other person playing the game i love thats what matters. I could never see a problem with having more choices
Most people don't like playing the same guys over and over again though. Or waiting forever to find a match.
@@calcutlassit’s all playing the same person no room to grow tbh
ill just play whatever SNK is putting out
KOFXV S3 When?
I just want to see more info about Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves. Especially the initial roster
This reminds me of the 2009-2012 era when there were so many FGs to choose from. Except it's better because online these days is actually good.
Yep, the irony is palpable. I'm just happy rollback is becoming a clear standard, but I don't have the time and the money to play them all now.
I think the options we have these days are great. I got fed up with my hardware not running MK1 well, so I hopped on SF6 with a friend and started guilty gear strive for when I'm alone. Now I'm currently tilted from strive and will try granblue for free until under night 2 releases. The variety is great and I love being able to play different fighting games if I get tilted from my main game, that being strive.
It is not just that it's too much to play, you're not even taking into account that for you to leave the casual-enthusiast level of a fg you will need to invest hours training specific things in specific scenarios on top of maintaining your execution sharp and your knowledge of the game on point.
I developed this fear to enter a fighting game cause i know how much i would get involved and that i don't would get satisfied with just a bnb and be a casual for the rest of its lifetime.
If you're wondering i played Gen in usf4 at some sort level as xian with piano fadc cancels and all the jazz of the specific combos for different hurtboxes for the entire roster. I tried to play sfv with one of the less limited chars Urien but i wasn't able to invest the time i wanted and i felt frustrated with my time and my hunger to master every japan setup video for the mirror combos and setups.
When fighting games get easier for sure sucks, but also even if you could invest the same time as in our teenage years you shouldn't if you will not get something big in exchange as a youtube channel a twitch stream or so. It's not a waste of time it's fun and better with a community that travels and such but it's also time, that you will not have in the future, unless you're rich.
But yeah, i am talking about just picking one game not 2 simultaneously, just one but for real. 2 is way too much even for paid gamers. No , tokido did not count , this is the same reason he stopped. The same for others. The only reason Chris G keeps entering 10 tournaments per major is because he knows no one trains and cause he already have somehow a stream and such generating. But you barely see people entering more than 1 tournaments at majors, specially on new or current titles.
In short, invest your time one year per game and you will get the best of what you're looking for. Unless you're rich and you can just eat years and not go bankrupt.
"To much to play" meanwhile Maximilliandood just like: "Ill just play them all"
Maybe I'd also do it if I was exactly in his place, instead of my south american poverty
I very casually got into fighting games during dbfz- not because of the franchise (though I love it) - but because of the visual fidelity.
Walking into a community of senior fgc players didn’t scare me, but not being able to tell what I did wrong in MVC3 with a thousand particle efffects and less clear animations turned me off from it. DBFZ let me learn the basics and dig a little deeper, but I never went all the way.
Then Guilty Gear came out and I was hooked. The animation fidelity was there. The strong offense was there, but defensive options were soooo much better. It gave me enough counter play to spend some time in the lab and sink my teeth into it. I know many content creators have already talked about it - but cool characters and satisfying animations really bring the casual audience in. It just so happened that the rest of the game let me go all in and understand the finer points of frame data, set play, etc.
I’m hype for all the new games, but I did start to feel fatigue - glad to see that I’m not the only one, but weirdly it’s let me really appreciate going back and learning how to “master” the last generation of titles. Not being worried about patch rotations lets me sit in SF5 and grind out optimals and learn real footsies. It’s almost like the new game fatigue has pushed me into playing older games so that I can learn at a slower pace while juggling work, social games, and the like. All in all I’m excited for the future of fighting games.
I like how you said " Match Up is King " then Showed King from Tekken.... I caught that 😊
For new games, I'm interested in Tekken 8. Generally, I prefer Soulcalibur or Dead or Alive over Tekken, but since neither of those have a new installment on the horizon, I (and probably a lot of other 3D fighting game players) will be playing it. The demo was pretty fun, too (and worked on Steam Deck--a real surprise).
I'm curious about Rivals 2, but I'm worried. Melee is the Smash installment I enjoy the least, so I'm not sure if I would like a game that touts similarity to it. That, and there isn't a character who really sticks out to me, unlike with most other games.
Aside from those, I'm enjoying Granblue, SF6, and want to get better at SamSho. I'd like to try MK1 as well since I've never played an NRS game, but the PC port isn't good (and it doesn't work well on Steam Deck).
It's glorious I remember just a few years ago we were desperate for new games but now fightcade reviving old games and the new games coming out all the time I feel spoiled af
GBVSR is probably the only fighter I'm gonna play the most simply cause I know I'm not gonna have the time to play all of them cause work. Fighting games are truly a second job lol
Growing up on the Arcade fighting game boom I never saw too many fighting games as a problem ... I played street fighter 2 then fatal fury then Darkstalkers then art of fighting then fighters history heck even Shaq fu 😅 😂 king of fighters and world heroes and so on the more the marrier 😂... then again all I play is 90% fighting games
As melty blood player, Doa player, tekken player( yeah , go even move forward) i am happy that fighting games became top topic recently, hopefully doa would also make a come back very soon
(5:07 i just notice, you only used fate characters in your melty blood clip, then i guess you are a fan of fate series, well although overall the whole nasuverse is cool nonetheless)
I'm not a fate fan it was just the footage I had and most of the DLC in that game is Fate lol. I don't know the lore of either franchise I just like fighting. Is Mario a Fate character?
Soo true - rightnow playing gbvr and loving it big time, but when tekken 8 comes out, I dont know if I will find time to play two fighting games at the same time. So much to learn but dont have the time
My fighting game cup runneth over. I'm going to go grab a few more cups. We are truly entering a new golden age.
Rivals of Aether reminds me of Digimon Rumble Arena on the PS1 and PS2 era. Would be nice to get one of those in the present days. The Evolve mechanic is something that the Platform Fighter could benefit from.
We're absolutely spoilt. Lots of people came back to Killer Instinct too. There's so much good stuff happening, I've got choice paralysis
Really? I personally feel like I have too little to play, pretty much every major fighting game lately has released or will release without regional pricing so they're prohibitively expensive, the only fighting games I've played from this year are yomi hustle which is 5 dollars and the granblue free version, and of the games coming out next year I'm only planning on getting R2 since T8 and uni2 are confirmed to not have regional pricing. I value regional pricing as the most important thing for a fighting game to have, more than rollback, more than good singleplayer, those things don't matter if the playerbase can't actually afford the game
What country are you located in if you don't mind me asking? I want to do a video covering this in the near future because it's such a big problem. You can reach me on twitter if you feel like it too btw
@@qmanchu I live in Peru, we have it the least bad in terms of regional pricing for South America (games without regional pricing are normally twice their usual price) but I have online friends in other places who often talk about how expensive stuff is, Argentina in particular probably has it the worst in the whole world, their economy is so bad that games without regional pricing are 10 times more expensive than usual. I don't have twitter though so I can't chat through there
No problem I appreciate the insight. Thanks for your support as well!
Through out this entire video I couldn't help but notice that you kinda sound like Mr Green (the ai clone of Nile Red) and it's super funny to me
Gentlemen what we have here are good problems
Suffering from success is really all it is! Love to see it but I'm curious what effects this might have in the long run. We told them all we needed was rollback for us to play. Now it's time to pay up haha
I'm surprised you didn't talk about Persona. That one's pretty good too
Bro I forgot! That was a bit earlier in the year but yeah you're right
Alright... but Capcom alone was making too many fgs from the mid to late 90s... and SNK made much more fgs than Capcom, which even lasted longer... and besides those were other companies making fgs often like Midway (MK)... And besides those there was a solid wave of minor fgs on arcade and console exclusives. A single company released new games literally in 1-3 years. (3 years was even a "too long" wait in terms of the 90s fg scene)
“Tekken 3 on my dad’s PlayStation 2”. Man I feel old. lol. I’m most excited for T8 & Uni. Those will likely be my main fighters.
Oversaturation is definitely a danger for new games especially when old games that are already great still exist
I think there is definitely too much of them and they should probably focus more on something that sets them apart and makes them worth playing
And then they made DNF Duel free on the EGS for a day... And now I have 100 hours in it x_x
I didn't know anybody else watched Engaged to the Unidentified 0:51
Excellent video! I'm finding myself in this exact dilemma and it's both a blessing and a curse!
I already bought GBVSR, and I'll probably spend most of my gaming time with it, it's just too good! I like so much more than everything that's out right now, and I don't expect that to change any time soon (there is so much to learn and practice!), but I also want to play some TK8 and especially UNI2.
For me, it was either buy UNI2 or TK8, and I was thinking of getting UNI2, just because TK8 will still have 1k+ regular players after two years, and TBH, I like UNI way more than TK, but now I'm actually planning to buy both on release and just dabble with them on the side along with GBVSR.
Basically, I plan to play GBVSR three days a week, UNI2 two days a week, and TK8 once a week. The remaining day of the week I cyble between Xrd, GGST and BBCF, or any novelty that happens to drop that week (like a beta or maybe the official release of DBFZ rollback etc...).
I am also very interested in ROA2 because I don't play any platform fighters and I'm thinking it would be my gateway into them, as it is the one that seems closest to Smash on PC.
BTW, 12:50 it's been a long time since I have the weapon but I believe you can craft it in Siero's shop for either Katalina or Vira, and it will give you the trophy, but you'll have to grind for the materials (medals especially are RNG and pretty low drop rate). Still, different quests have a higher drop rate for specific weapons, and while I don't remember which ones give you Luminiera's Blade, it will probably be one where you fight either Katalina or Vira as a boss in hard mode, so try clearing that quest fast and use the support skill that increases drop rate (twice, for your character and the partner) along with the Vyrn weapons that do the same in the grid. Hope it helps!
I fully sympathise with you on this trophy quest, as myself too am stuck with two of Anre's weapon skins (although they're not tied to a trophy) and I still don't have the two trophies where you have to play a quest with another player online...
As a OCE gamer most FGC games die real fast so big 3 Tekken 8, SF6, MK1 everything else cant search and play discord refugees for those 1
That mixes two different things. If it's about longevity then MK must be removed and only SF and TK stay.
No crisis for the focused. Tekken 8 for next 10 years 😅
The original UNI didn't last because it didn't have rollback, and then they promised it, and then they didn't give it to us
I tell you what though. I don't talk about T7, I ain't gonna be talkin about T8.
I forgot about that tbh
Ive been learning Tekken for the past month or so and im hyped for T8. Winning feels so rewarding and i also feel like losing isnt terrible because im still learning the game and my opponent. Dante for T8?
The problem with Tekken is you will still be losing to things you have just never seen before in 5 years.
Still literally no fighters to play until Project L, as none of my friends are willing to pay the insane prices every fighting game demands. From 10 player discord fighters to the big boys, they all demand full box price plus big chunks for DLC characters or season passes. Meanwhile they jump around and play every other genre freely, investing in cosmetics and stuff where they want to.
Yeah, all my hopes are in Project L as well.
If it does well it might create enough competition for the "big fish" to finally get off their asses and improve their games (more features, better online, more generous DLC).
There's no problem in any of this. For a niche to thrive there needs to be a balance of quantity and quality of products to cather to different demographics. As someone that's mainly playing Grandblue and Rivals of Aether, I can confirm that the learning process is as fun as just doing casual matches.
More choice is always good but in the fighting games having a lot of them is extremely frustrating as a fan because you know damn well how stupid 99% of modern FG and how atrocious their DLC balance and MTX model is.
Maybe fgs nowadays can be the most expensive console gaming genre for a big fg consumer with large rage of interest (the one who buys every or almost everything)... If you count the total spendings on SF, MK, TK, KOF, SC, each Arc System fg, other minor fgs, indie fgs, etc.
Not even 2 years ago, people were complaining that there wasn't enough FG stuff. 😅 pick a game or couple and have fun
Were people really complaining about that? 2 years ago we had Melty, KOFXV, and DNF Duel, Multiversus, and who knows what else I'm missing (not including updates for SFV and T7). That's crazy to think
@qmanchu I vividly remember people being like "there's a dry spell in the FGC right now" I could be wrong on the time frame but it's just funny to me 🤣 people get what they want and now it's "too much"
Another issue is that, now, fighting games are much more expensive than in the arcade days. Back then, kids could go to the arcade regularly and get good at a ton of games with only pocket change from their parents. Now, there are the same number of "must play" games, and you have to pay full price for all of them plus DLC. Yes, the arcade era had its own problems, but at least credits were cheap.
There were a lot more back in early 2000. You had GOATS like MVC2, SF 3S, KOF, MK, GG, etc.
And the 00s had much less option than the 90s. All Capcom fg franchises were already dead for example, except MvC... But since MvC2 was exactly from 00, maybe that doesn't count to debunk the statement. And CvS was made in 00 and the sequel in 01, and died. Also from SNK, only KoF and Samsho were alive in the 00s among fgs, when they had 6 fg franchises in the 90s.
I chose the late 90s and early 2000s cause I felt that’s when EVO and the FGC really took off. There were many quality games in those eras that’s why they’re GOATs. Some of the other notable games had people playing at my local arcades. DOA, VF, Soul Calibur, Vampire Saviour, and some other niche titles. It’s 2024.. of course those games wouldn’t be trending now. They’re over 2 decades old. My response was to the title as I found myself playing a lot of fighting games back then.
i dont pay rent have my own house so i preordered already 9 games on the psn store like Tekken,FF7, Dogma 2, yakuza, granblue etc
i can see why normal people might struggle though with all new game releases
I feel like the fighting game community has such a hard time just enjoying a game. And has alot of..fare weather fans. It doesn't help alot of people have kinda..gotten addicted to the patch hype. And if a game isn't getting constant patches,updates, DLC, it dies. Unless it's the big 3 sf,mk,tekken. Anything els 2 to 3 months in they moving to another game or going back to play something familiar.
There's no more. It is what it is when it comes to fighting games. It's easier to just go play something els or wait for a patch to take out somthing you don't like.
I believe that's why the big 3 always last simply because they are most well known games. That get the most support. So even 2 or 3 months in. It really doesn't matter.
More people will always be watching the tournaments, attending them. The prize pools bigger. The genre is kinda backed into corner and very few want it to come out. Why play game full of unfamiliar characters when they can keep going back to the same faces over and over and over again. With the same mechanics and gamplay, move sets, costumes. We've gotten so addicted to familiarity.
I cant go hard on mutiple fighting games as a competitive player and have time for my other passions. Ill probably stick with t8 till project L drops
Before many people nagged about not enough fighting games . Now some of them are nagging about increasing quantity of fighting games 😂
I just go with the flow it's not like Tekken 8 or SF6 will be gone in the foreseeable future (already got SF6) ill pick up Tekken 8 with a discount at some point maybe or maybe not, i enjoy GBFVR for now
granblue gets a battle pass so passing up on that will free up a lot of time money and mindless grind, unless youre immune to fomo
About Sajam wanting Rollback, all I want for a Fighting Game is:
"Does it have a good Single Player? Does it have content, replay value and progress to have my desire to keep coming back, or will it be barebones, all 100% unlocked and with no content other than "get good" as Counter-Strike?"
I'm a good racing player thanks to Gran Turismo, because it has an amazing Career and progress, thus making me want to learn more and eventually get me Online.
Fighting Games has... "Gran Turismo License Test"-like modes, a repetitive story gameplay that ask me "Why not expand Arcade since it's basically that?" and everything's unlocked that makes me want to retire quickly.
That's my 2024 crisis... Well, Fighting Games in general, unless we're talking about Smash Bros. like Brawl.
Brawl all of all choices?
@@illford ...Yeah?
I probably spend +200 Hours in Brawl, and for a good reason.
Subspace Emissary, Classic, All-Stars (Classic but bit different), Missions(?), 3 Mini-Games, Boss Rush, custom modes, custom stages and more stages other than a flat one.
And on top of all that, the game isn't complete on the start. Collecting Trophies, Stickers and unlocking fighters was a blast!
Especially when the game rewards you for playing other characters, difficulties and modes, which means experimenting and dedication is found on me, something other Fighting Games fails other than "It's there, if you like."
Now I heard -seen the Online is trash, and yes tripping is BS, *I did lost many times because of that,* but I could see myself playing Online.
Compared to DNF Duel:
Battle, Battle but story, Battle but Arcade, Battle but Survival (all Battles contain the same stage), Training, Combo Trail...
*Oh like ALL Fighting Games, basically?*
You see what I mean?
I remember when I used to play by myself in fighting games, and I always like Vs. CPU mode because I could play whoever I wanted against any character I wanted at any stage. But Tekken 6's scenario campaign was really fun, and TTT2's combot tutorial mode thingy was cool too. I'm excited to see what offerings single player-wise will be available in Tekken 8, even if I would mostly be playing online.
Two questions
1.) Is Gran Turismo 7 worth buying?
2.) Do I need to wheel to effectively play the game?
@@gameboyadvancedsp6727 Yeah, brawl has it's problems, but one thing you gotta give it credit for is it's single player.
@@deco7217 1) Not sure. I don't have GT7. I heard it's lacking in many areas but to tell it's not worth it I'm not sure.
2) The GTs I play has its Online servers shutdown or no Online, so...
Well, you *can* win races Online with a controller (L2/R2 and the analog stick(s) ), just like I can beat mouse and keyboard player with a controller in Shooters.
Just make sure to adjust your driving sensitivity and others that fits you/your vehicle.
And, importantly, not all controller are equal (even outside of controllers), even from the same company.
I once had a PS3 controller by Sony with a stick of an accuracy of a "Contol Freek" accessory. ...Just once, out of 5+. It was awesome! (Now you see why people say controllers can't "compete")
Now yes, a wheel gives you more range of steering and pressing pedals than a controller, thus easier to maintain an angle, and while safe I'd say test out your controller first to see if you're happy or not with the results.
I sure need a new controller... The new one I have had bad deadzones, with the analog sticks reaching 100% of input without pushing 100% of the sticks. (Not made by Sony)
Tekken 8 is all that matters going forwards
Crash Team Rumble too😢
I also played Tekken on Qmanchu’s Dad’s PlayStation.
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If the FG doesn't have cross-play, I don't waste my time!
Samsho isnt playable on steam right?
Not a single mention of Killer Instinct. I’m just going to assume for your sake you have not yet tried the best fighting game of the decade out there?
I tried it since it's been free. But it's just another one of those older games getting updates that I mentioned. I'm not here to list them all.
I didn't have an Xbox or PC until recently so no I never played the newest one till it just got the free update :)
Already got a video in the works about it
What other 3d fighter is there to play except Tekken?
I am more excited about strives 3v3 than uni
Here just waiting on Capcom doing something that isn't SF.
Unfortunately I think that no crossplay is going to hurt Uni 2 in the long run but French Bread just straight up can't afford it so it is what it is
Tekken and soulsborne is all I need 🙏😩
As a tekken player players who play tekken a lot rarely venture of into other games compared to other audiences. And most ppl who play multiple FGC games drop tekken so tbh you might aswell remove tekken from the list. Cus if you start getting into it you won’t be playing anything else heheheheh
I promised myself I'm giving Azucena a shot. Probably not going high in ranked but I really like her look
Nah I think Tekken will end up as a casual game for a lot of people. it's very popular casually but a lot of people simply can't wrap their heads around it, which is fair tbh those movelists are absurd
That’s how I feel as a tekken player as well lol sad they made so many characters easier to play like Jin. I may just Main Bryan and not use qcb1 to handicap myself
i think im abt to buy every new fighting game this/next year except rivals cuz i dont have a pc💀😭🙏🏿
I see absolutely everyone coming to tekken eventually. The other games just aren't as deep and tend to get thrown away after a few months, besides maybe SF, but sf6 is kinda meh after the honeymoon phase. Ive been playing tekken for like the last 3 years nonstop after coming to tekken as a new player from FPS games and SF
SF6 has all my attention though.
How is that a bad thing?
Personally ive been playing mk1 and strive. Cant rly get into sf6 until they akuma and menat
I wouldnt call Uni an airdasher
Yeah I'm not really sure why I said that tbh lmao
3:07 how TF are they from the country of gay???
For 3D fighting Gamers 2024 will be actually kinda *boring* ...
No SC, No VF and no DOA.... Just Tekken
Tekken is the creme de le creme, it's all you need to play for now, SC6 and Vf5 are still there to play, not sure if everything in those two games are fully explored especially SF6
Wouldn’t really call this a crisis. I’m only gonna be playing tekken since 2d fighters are so basic in comparison
I don't know about Granblue man, even though it's Arcsys it looks incredibly generic, on top of that I tried the free version and my fight stick nor my controller works while many of the kb inputs aren't working... couldn't even navigate properly through the menu... just ended up uninstalling eventually.
Tekken 8 demo is absolutely fire though.
While all these games will be great in 2024 I do feel like Tekken 8 is gonna overshadow the rest, that's like THE FG game of 2024.
great
Dw, most of these will succ, with T8 leading the way.
It easy for me Tekken 8 is the only fighting game on this list going to get
Mk1 is the worst financial decision i made
I'm only interested in Tekken 8 and Rivals 2
Yeah me too mostly because Tekken and roa are one of my favourite games and no one really speaks to me in granblue or uni
Uhhh what. There is no other fighting game to think of aside from T8... Why even compare it to any of those homebrew hacks that can barely call themselves games let alone fighting games...
Tekken is a fury game
@@kye4216 pretty sure you meant furry, and there's like 2 animals and one tentacle monster in the whole game. The one you're thinking of was on gamecube/ps2 called Bloody Roar, or possibly Smash Bros...
How about Budokai Tenkaichi 4?
Another highly anticipated game!
Tekken 8 is enough for this decade.
Maybe its just me but even being into fighting games, and having all these new ones coming out, its not really a matter of "either this or this" its more like "would i be interested in the first place"?
Cause while theres a lot of games i might try out, At least for me, it doesnt matter when it comes out. if we're talking about ones you would put a lot of time into, i dont think i would have in the first place. Not all fighting games have the same appeal, or game feel.
But admittedly, having releases with only a week between doesnt really make sense. Maybe the devs think theres not as much overlap either?
Ehhh GBVSR and uni are gonna become discord fighters quickly, I reckon DBFZ will have a solid playerbase once Rollback is officially added to the game but it still won't rival Tekken, MK, or SF. I reckon it's just gonna be what we've been seeing this entire time, just a ton of focus around established games, if arcsys releases a new anime fighter like DBFZ though with rollback on release I could easily see that taking up a huge portion of the fgc playerbase depending on what IP the game has.
I'm 43 I've played fighting games casually offline throughout the decades and last year i decided to get into fighting games, so here is my "tragedy" 😂.
So i decided to get into fighting games but since i couldn't do proper inputs with controllers i decided to save money for an arcade stick (this was in late 2022), a few months later 2023 i finally bought the stick, i could finally do everything properly (yes the people who say that a stick won't improve your experience are lying of course, influencers are very good at gaslighting) so i was so happy, i was playing arcade games on the stick and that was also cool.
Ok so now i needed a fighting game, SF6 was coming and i was going to get that one, until Tekken 8 was announced, i only have money for one and it has to be Tekken, i also hate the new characters in SF6 so it made it easier to forget SF6. So I've been training with older fighting games offline, played almost every Tekken, until the day i finally got the T8 demo... It runs like hell on my PC 😭, my dreams are crushed i need a fighting game, i try GBFVR, it's another simplified controls game for casual players, new players are making 30hit combos like it's nothing while I'm playing with the classic inputs and basic combos, plus the game forces me to listen to the English voices if the other player is using English, this is not for me i hate streamlined games.
So now the irony of having so many choices and nothing suits me besides Tekken. 😂
Street Fighter 6, i hate the new characters and aesthetics of the game.
Mortal Kombat 1, female characters are horrible and everyone else is lame, best MK was MK9.
Gbfvr is for casuals.
King of fighters 15 is awesome but basically dead.
Killer instinct, basically dead.
Soul calibur 6, dead.
Guilty gear... I'm not sure, i like the older ones better.
BlazBlue, amazing but not many people play it.
Undernight 2, i was never a fan, and it will have simplified controls too.
So many choices but either they suck or they are mostly empty, and I'm not going to spend so much money on a game with so few players.
Yeah i know this will trigger people but that's how it is, i really don't like simplified controls, new players like me should not be able to pull 20 to 30hit combos, they wouldn't be able to do that in BlazBlue. I guess I'll have to play another genre after all 🥴.
UNI did not have simple inputs. It updated its autocombo system called "smartsteer" which it already had in the previous version. In any case, you aren't going to be getting 20-30 hit combos with whatever the system ends up with as you fear. Also, I have never had a problem getting KOF XV matches, though I did hear this depends on your location. Not sure when you last tried it, but KOF XV improved their matchmaking and got crossplay at some point so your experience may have been before those changes.
@@acorteziii i didn't play KOF15 I've seen the low amount of players on steam charts which i know it's just pc but around 300 players is low and it will only decrease with the release of T8. About UNI2 that's good to know, but my biggest fear is a game dying of quickly and with so many fighting games the player base with spread out, this feels like the MMO rpg years when there was mmos all over the place and none could hold the player base except for the big names, i remember getting into empty mmos a lot 😂.
Hey man really i appreciate your input, thanks for the information i might check out UNI1 single player to see if i like it. 👍
What is this heresy?! Market saturation?! Nonsense! How about perpetual annual growth?! Didn't think about that, huh? Surely the FGC, the customer base, will be exponentially bigger next year; surely they'll automagically saturate our every product; surely they'll want to pay more and more for more arbitrary conveniences and divvied up expressions of vanity; just like their wages do, am I right? lol, just kidding; let me fire some developers and quality control, brb.
The stupidity of the observation on display here is solely rivalled by it's the lack of monetary exploitation, why'd you cheap out on the sense of pride and accomplishment I feel watching ads and sponsored sections?! How am I to enjoy this shit?!
- the gaming industry, 2023
This was the first generation I took fighting games more seriously. And to be honest I have been enjoying street fighter 6 more vs mk1 and Tekken 8
SF6 is an incredible package deal!
The legacy knowledge of Tekken is like basic mechanics in SF or knowing the difference between a string that is actually safe and one that looks safe but isn't.
so much stupid stuff in one sentence.
y do ppl always think everyone plays everything?
I don't think anyone thinks that. But the fact there's multiple anime games by the same dev all competing with each other is an interesting thing to point out. DNF duel, GBVS, UNI, and DBFZ are all arcsystem works games and yet they'll be concurrently supported.
well, everybody is saying "there s so many fgames! fgame golden era! fgames r bac! what to play there s so many!!"
i know all those types:
some are long winded franchises(10yo) others relegends(sf6) i dont play sf.
after a while i get bored & need my movement.
kof 15 is nice but there hang ups there.
uni doesnt seem to have any burst at all, & melty only one char interests me & i hope she s not going "onichan" all the time when fighting a certain character.
to make it shorter, i have games i like & among those only tk8 is upcoming. @@qmanchu sega isnt even strting vf6 yet:"we need t think abot what vf can bring: other games got many spectacular things" vf6 might be ded already(meaning, fodder for acustomer type im not like t7 & sc6 are)
uni is arcsys? i didntnow! was the weird sega 2d anime game with SOA characters in it arcsys too?@@qmanchu
@getinthering7309 I know what game ur talking about and I don't think so. Dengeki Bunko or something like that?
yep! thx@@qmanchu
Shout out to dan fornace for deciding to make the first good platform fighter.
too many good games is not a real problem
Not at all. It's a beautiful problem to have
u asked. talk more about t8
In due time
Am I the only one who thinks tekken 8 looks like a bad tekken game? They just keep doubling down on these scrubby gimmicks like power crush and rage arts , now we get heat and easy imputs . Yea no thanks I miss when comebacks where an achievement. And these rosters for modern fighters are ass. The people they leave out and the ones they bring back baffle me, they really bring back Alisa and lars every game when classics are missing. Who really likes Ed in sf more than gen .oh well they turn hehachi into easy mode anime girl so the simps will never let the mascot comeback .
personally I only care about Tekken 8
Oh no shitty games litter the market, what to do
That's the point... these games are all good. I didn't even name them all cuz the ones I mentioned were the one's I'm personally most excited for. But I'm curious what you are the good ones?
I'm really itching for a new Blazblue fighting game.
Same
Probably won't happen I believe. The best hope for BB, and that's far from ideal, is that it gets absorbed by future GGs kinda like Final Fight chars in SF. With the difference that FF is related to SF in lore. So maybe something is made to force BB into the GG lore. After Akuma in TK7 story anything is possible.
Or Arcsys starts a crossover franchise that lets BB appear... kinda like KoF became a home to protect chars from dead SNK franchises to fall into obscurity. Also like MvC sheltered Morrigan since the 1st one.
lol uni2 is already dead, took like 2 weeks too.
The long wait for content is pretty rough too but maybe there will be a resurgence 2 years from now lol
Nothing to worry about really. SF6 has gotten boring for now. Granblue is shallow. MK1 is dead already. Unist will have 3 players. Tekken 8 will be the best game this year.
T8 and its crap online? Cope.
@@HighLanderPonyYT I'm in Korea. There's no problems with the netcode here.
To each his own. In my personal opinion, these fighting games are not interesting enough to me. Especially Tekken 8's lack of Eddy and/or Christie.