That was cool, thanks Jon. It helps avoid having to purchase a separate effects loop switcher and offers additional tonal variations on a normal amp or having to purchase a flat response speaker. You're doing a great service to us Pod users.
Thanks for this tutorial; I finally figured it out and it works great. I have a marshall that i love the preamp and gain section from and now i can use it in conjunction with the pod and make the pod more of just a big pedal board. Sounds killer now!
reading up on this, it seems you have to add +6db before the effects loop as the pod drops the volume 6db going through it. Did you find the pod did it with your set-up?
Some things id mention is make sure you also turn the cab model off! Otherwise you ruin your tone. The poweramp stage is not meant to pass a cab sound thru. It powers your cab! Also,, very important ! make sure on system settings,,, output is set to either combo pwr amp or stack pwr amp (whichever your amp is) and set the little 1/4 output switch by foot pedal to "line". This is for impedance matching. Lastly im pretty sure you will have to buy a ReAMP box for going from the hd500 send into the front of the amp! Most people dont know this! the hd500 effects loop jacks only allow either line/stomp mode. Its a one size fits all. It sets all the fx loop ins/outs for the same impedance and for the 4CM you need stomp mode(high imp) for the fx send but line (low imp) for the fx return. Only option i know is a reamp box. set fx loop to "line" then send -> in reamp box out -> front of amp input. Your guitar amp's input must be presented with a high impedance signal and proper gain or the input isn't driven and loaded properly and tone will suffer. I think this is correct. If im wrong someone with more knowledge please correct me.
I use a Pod Go. During a gig I typically stand 8 (plus) ft away from the amp. Is there any advantage on using TRS type cables between the Pod Go and amp? What type cables would you recommend for say 10 ft away to avoid the loss?
Question: Does the Line 6 HD500x have a similar dirt preset to a *Marshall Bluesbreaker?* or any preset that you think somehow can emulate it? Can someone reply? Please? Thank you very much.
Love your videos on HD500X. Had my 500X for awhile but never really dove Into it…just seem easier using my stomp boxes at church. Can you make a video of creating step by step tones for like Hillsong, Bethel type of clean tone with lots of reverb? Instead of buying a Strymon Big Sky….I though perhaps I could program HD500X. But it just has that high frequency sound that is just not friendly to your ear. No matter how much I adjust with EQ and reduce the high freq…still has that sound that drags out…almost like a harmonic. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Ive never watched so many videos on one piece of equipment and im still boggled. Q: what is the best method to use just the preamps and tone from the pod I have a Blackstar Power amp into Marshall Cab. I really want that Fx loop open so i can use my analog pedal board
If you're talking about the FX Loop block, yes, you can think of it as your amp (preamp)👍 And you have the ability to activate or bypass it. And you can change it's placement in the signal chain.
watched whole video but didnt understand anything ...can you please simplify it more using a board & pen ... like what is the use of this method & how it makes the difference than conventional method how we use POD or other modelers & why we doing those connections & what if we reverse those connections what will happen (Wht are FX send / returns etc etc ) .Thanks!! Your channel is amzing & you are doing a good job .
To try and make this as simple as possible, forget about the Pod for a minute. I'm going to try and over-simplify so use this as a guide and not a word-for-word exact explanation. A guitar amp has two sections, a Pre-amp which shapes your tone, and a Power amp which makes your tone loud. When you use a pedal, typically you plug your guitar into the pedal and then it goes to the amp, which means the signal chain would be guitar>pedal>preamp>poweramp. Some pedals, like overdrives and distortions, sound great when used in this order. Other pedals, like delays and time based effects, don't sound the best if they are placed before the pre-amp, so amp builders will put an "effects loop" in the amps signal chain after the pre-amp but before the power amp. This way you could plug your guitar into an overdrive pedal, then plug that into your amp, then you would plug a cable from the "FX send" on the amp into the input of your delay pedal, then the output of the pedal to the "FX return" on the amp, making your signal chain guitar>overdrive>pre-amp>delay>power amp. The Pod also has a built in FX loop. If you are plugging your pod into a computer and not using a physical guitar amp, but you wanted to use some other physical pedals with it, you could plug your pedals into the FX loop and then pick where those pedals go in your chain (for example, before the amp block if you're using overdrive pedals, or after the amp block for delay.) Now, if you are plugging your Pod straight into a physical guitar amp, your signal chain is going to be guitar>pod>preamp>poweramp, which means your delays from the pod might sound bad, and if you want to use a pre-amp model in the pod your tone is still going to be changed by the physical guitar amp's preamp. By using Jon's method, your signal chain will essentially be guitar>pod>preamp>pod>power amp, so you can put your Pod overdrive effects before the physical guitar amp preamp, and your delays after the preamp. With his method, you can also eliminate the tone-shaping from your physical guitar amp and use one of the pre-amp models from the pod instead, or use a footswitch to switch between them. As for why we do those connections, we are essentially putting the physical guitar amp preamp into the FX loop on the Pod, so you can put your Pod effects before or after the preamp (by placing your effects blocks before or after the "FX loop" block). As for "what if we reverse those connections" there are multiple options for that, and hopefully now you'll understand the purpose of the ins/outs and can play around if you want.
@@mazzymazzer1969 Thank you for your awesome explanation! I finally get it. Thank you for taking your time explaining this to us newbies. It really got through me now.
That was cool, thanks Jon. It helps avoid having to purchase a separate effects loop switcher and offers additional tonal variations on a normal amp or having to purchase a flat response speaker. You're doing a great service to us Pod users.
DUDE!!! As Dave Mustaine would say…Your a GOD!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!
Thanks for this tutorial; I finally figured it out and it works great. I have a marshall that i love the preamp and gain section from and now i can use it in conjunction with the pod and make the pod more of just a big pedal board. Sounds killer now!
Awesome to hear!
Very cool Jon :). You continue to make a really old ( at this time) piece of great kit, greater!.
It’s been a while since using this method. Great refresher course!
Thank you so much for that explanation of the fx lock. That's what i was missing.
This is great advice, Jon. Never would have thought to do this on my own. Thanks!
cool laser sounds and awesome preamp loop switch tip, subbed
reading up on this, it seems you have to add +6db before the effects loop as the pod drops the volume 6db going through it. Did you find the pod did it with your set-up?
Some things id mention is make sure you also turn the cab model off! Otherwise you ruin your tone. The poweramp stage is not meant to pass a cab sound thru. It powers your cab!
Also,, very important ! make sure on system settings,,, output is set to either combo pwr amp or stack pwr amp (whichever your amp is) and set the little 1/4 output switch by foot pedal to "line". This is for impedance matching.
Lastly im pretty sure you will have to buy a ReAMP box for going from the hd500 send into the front of the amp! Most people dont know this! the hd500 effects loop jacks only allow either line/stomp mode. Its a one size fits all. It sets all the fx loop ins/outs for the same impedance and for the 4CM you need stomp mode(high imp) for the fx send but line (low imp) for the fx return. Only option i know is a reamp box. set fx loop to "line" then send -> in reamp box out -> front of amp input. Your guitar amp's input must be presented with a high impedance signal and proper gain or the input isn't driven and loaded properly and tone will suffer. I think this is correct. If im wrong someone with more knowledge please correct me.
much appreciated!
What is your outputs on studio/direct or power combo etc...?
I use a Pod Go. During a gig I typically stand 8 (plus) ft away from the amp. Is there any advantage on using TRS type cables between the Pod Go and amp? What type cables would you recommend for say 10 ft away to avoid the loss?
This was much appreciated , good to know but to many cables ,don’t think I’d use with an amp , , I’m just an old simple guy , thanks
Question: Does the Line 6 HD500x have a similar dirt preset to a *Marshall Bluesbreaker?* or any preset that you think somehow can emulate it?
Can someone reply? Please? Thank you very much.
Love your videos on HD500X. Had my 500X for awhile but never really dove
Into it…just seem easier using my stomp boxes at church.
Can you make a video of creating step by step tones for like Hillsong, Bethel type of clean tone with lots of reverb? Instead of buying a Strymon Big Sky….I though perhaps I could program HD500X. But it just has that high frequency sound that is just not friendly to your ear. No matter how much I adjust with EQ and reduce the high freq…still has that sound that drags out…almost like a harmonic. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Ive never watched so many videos on one piece of equipment and im still boggled.
Q: what is the best method to use just the preamps and tone from the pod
I have a Blackstar Power amp into Marshall Cab.
I really want that Fx loop open so i can use my analog pedal board
Thanks for this! What type of FX would you recommend go before the FX loop and which type of FX go after?
boost EFX before loop, timing EFX (delay, reverb) after loop and amp block. OD > DIST > CHORUS > LOOP > AMP > MIXER > DELAY > REVERB
So is the FX block basically the amp??
If you're talking about the FX Loop block, yes, you can think of it as your amp (preamp)👍 And you have the ability to activate or bypass it. And you can change it's placement in the signal chain.
watched whole video but didnt understand anything ...can you please simplify it more using a board & pen ... like what is the use of this method & how it makes the difference than conventional method how we use POD or other modelers & why we doing those connections & what if we reverse those connections what will happen (Wht are FX send / returns etc etc ) .Thanks!! Your channel is amzing & you are doing a good job .
To try and make this as simple as possible, forget about the Pod for a minute. I'm going to try and over-simplify so use this as a guide and not a word-for-word exact explanation.
A guitar amp has two sections, a Pre-amp which shapes your tone, and a Power amp which makes your tone loud. When you use a pedal, typically you plug your guitar into the pedal and then it goes to the amp, which means the signal chain would be guitar>pedal>preamp>poweramp.
Some pedals, like overdrives and distortions, sound great when used in this order. Other pedals, like delays and time based effects, don't sound the best if they are placed before the pre-amp, so amp builders will put an "effects loop" in the amps signal chain after the pre-amp but before the power amp. This way you could plug your guitar into an overdrive pedal, then plug that into your amp, then you would plug a cable from the "FX send" on the amp into the input of your delay pedal, then the output of the pedal to the "FX return" on the amp, making your signal chain guitar>overdrive>pre-amp>delay>power amp.
The Pod also has a built in FX loop. If you are plugging your pod into a computer and not using a physical guitar amp, but you wanted to use some other physical pedals with it, you could plug your pedals into the FX loop and then pick where those pedals go in your chain (for example, before the amp block if you're using overdrive pedals, or after the amp block for delay.)
Now, if you are plugging your Pod straight into a physical guitar amp, your signal chain is going to be guitar>pod>preamp>poweramp, which means your delays from the pod might sound bad, and if you want to use a pre-amp model in the pod your tone is still going to be changed by the physical guitar amp's preamp.
By using Jon's method, your signal chain will essentially be guitar>pod>preamp>pod>power amp, so you can put your Pod overdrive effects before the physical guitar amp preamp, and your delays after the preamp. With his method, you can also eliminate the tone-shaping from your physical guitar amp and use one of the pre-amp models from the pod instead, or use a footswitch to switch between them.
As for why we do those connections, we are essentially putting the physical guitar amp preamp into the FX loop on the Pod, so you can put your Pod effects before or after the preamp (by placing your effects blocks before or after the "FX loop" block). As for "what if we reverse those connections" there are multiple options for that, and hopefully now you'll understand the purpose of the ins/outs and can play around if you want.
@@mazzymazzer1969 Thank you for your awesome explanation! I finally get it. Thank you for taking your time explaining this to us newbies. It really got through me now.
I did have a question would pod’s amp models sounds realistic or better using 4 cable method in live gigs?
@Thesamtvv it's possible, definitely depends on your amp setup, the room, and the sound setup