Mühle R41 vs R89 Razor SHOWDOWN!
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- In this episode, Geofatboy performs a Showdown Shave pitting the Mühle R89 up against the Mühle R41 Razor. Which do you prefer? Click below to purchase these items. Visit shavenation.com/ for all your shaving supplies.
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Geo.
I’m very glad men can come together somewhere on RUclips and talk hygiene and just talk about manly issues 💈😁✌️💈
Geo, I went from using a terrible Gillette Fusion to a safety razor about 3 years ago when I found this channel. Bought a Muhle R89 with some Feather blades and Proraso products and couldn't be happier. My shave routine completely changed, my skin feels much fresher and smoother with a safety razor than those gimmicky razors with the 5 blades and aloe vera strip. Keep up the good work man, love these videos.
Thank you Viriatvs I'm glad the vids helped you switch up your shave and that you are now enjoying it much more! Gotta do it thousands of times in our lifetime, might as well get into it and enjoy the process❤️
@viriatvsoflvsitania5422 Same story here! I switched 1 month ago and I buyed a Merkur 34C with Proraso products. I enjoy every moment and I couldn't wait till the next shave😅 Never ever Cartridge Razors!
Thanks for everything @geofatboy !
Love the R41. Demands respect, but rewards with the closest shave you can get.
So True-Its like the junkyard dog... If you're not careful you get bit💥
Agree, Got mine in the rose gold handle.
I find the Futur more aggressive and efficient with ANY blade. The R41 only works with Feathers for me.
@@starlodear2987 Futur is adjustable. Not the same.
So if your carful you don't have to fear it
"Clean the lips, little thumb swipe, clear the runways" What a guy! A good testimony for the Rose shave cream as well as the razors.
Gotta cover all the bases David... Thanks!
I own both. R89 is very good, but R41 is perfect for sensitive skin and especially for anyone who shaves once a week.
Le r41 rase de plus près .
Love your comment, “ let the weight of the razor do the work for you” ...... I think that’s true with all aggressive razors.
Yes, Be gentle or else!
Just starting with my R89, awesome results. I'll stick to it a few months, then im upgrading to R41 for a closest shave.
I love the aftershave moment.
Thanks for the video!
You can buy the r41 head, no need to buy the whole thing again
@@wernerziegler2873Thanks to your tip, I got the R41 head for mine 👍
Thanks for the review. I use the R41 every day. 7 days a week
Alan - You are a man among men!
Hell yeah 🤘😝🤘
I use Merkur 37c every day, 7 days a week.
@@rajansharmaadv Also a great shaver!
My face won't take more than once every two days, too aggressive. Using it once a week makes it perfect and it's the real reason why I got such a razor. You must have really thick skin if you shave daily with it.
The R41 is not a beginner's razor. If you have some experience then go for it. Take your time, and let the razor do the work. The shave is worth it. Closest I have had from a safety razor.
Interesting comparison shave. I totally agree that MÜHLE is of flawless quality. I love my Mühle R108.
I've yet to see a flaw in one of their razors! #germanengineering
I have the R41 I might get that one next
The R41 is bad ass, I love only doing two passes and get baby smooth. I use it everyday but you do have to be careful not to press too hard, respect the beast!
You now have unlocked the secret!
I love my R41 with a Feather or Personna blade
Nice!
Do you shave with it every day?
mf6532 every 2 days
R41 only works with a Feather for me. But I still prefer the Merkur Futur because of its higher weight. It gives me a slightly closer and faster shave and it works with all blades thanks to being adjustable to all blades.
No troubles navigating directly under the nose with the Futur?
Just got the R41 and as you say it's much less forgiving. 3 cuts... but a close shave, nice. More of what I am used to using the old Mach 3!
Three years ago, I practiced shaving while watching the video of geo, you.
It is good to see you, geo standing on the pulpit and lecturing shaving videos often these days.
Y-Thank you for your kind words and long term support!
geofatboy 👌😁❤️
I use my Merkur 37c every day, and seven days a week and love it.
Also an excellent shaver!
I purchased the R89 as my first safety razor and it has been absolutely amazing. Not too wild, but it performs absolutely fantastic. It's great for beginners looking for some quality hardware. In time I'm sure I'll upgrade to something more aggressive, or better yet, something adjustable. I'm in no hurry to do so however as the R89 is giving me a super duper smooth shave.
Thanks for your tips, especially about the difference between scraping and just catching the hair when shaving against the grain.
I have tried getting close shave but due to high angle it always turned out to be an irritating shave, I am getting better results now.
Thanks again.
Hi Geo- Great shave and comparison video; thank you! After three years of DE shaving, I still haven’t taken the plunge with the R41. Your advice and guidance in this video has been a great help towards using this razor! Enjoy the rest of the weekend and all the best!
Thank Mike-Be well!
Great video; funny how it appeared as a recommended video for me tonight, I just a couple of hours ago bought an R41 head! Been using an R89 for a couple of years with Feathers and just fancied trying out a more aggressive head. Always enjoy your vids Geo, cheers!
Thanks for using metric system ;). I own a R89, very efficient over short beard - as you said, good for everyday, but lacking of skills over a longer beard -say three to for days. Even with feather blades. So I was considering buying a R41 head as I don't always shave daily. You convinced me.
Thanks for sharing! I go both ways... Metric and US!
I actually learned DE shaving with the R41 and the green Astra blades (by accident), a friend of mine let me borrow a spare safety razor of his thinking he gave me the R89 but forgot to swap the razor heads.
Got used to it quite quickly and loved it very much, but avoided doing more than two passes.
When I finally ordered my own r89 I wondered why the design was different. Now I can basically shave with any DE razor XD
I don't know how he could mistake the R41 for the R89. Those heads are noticeably different!
Maybe it was too aggressive for him so he pawned it off on you lmao
@@geofatboy😂 intentionally gifted 😅
Thanks, Geo.
I have both (on the grande handle) and would recommend them to anyone.
You can buy the two heads and you only need one handle for both. Also, you can swap the top caps for different levels of efficiency. Cheers.
R41 is among the best modern DE razors you can buy these days.
Thanks for your input!
Very informative video. Thank you. I shave with a straight razor but have just bought a RazoRock BBS safety razor. I love it! The angle of the blade is bent to 30 degrees and the torsion on the blade seems to provide an easy perfect shave. Would love to see you do a review of that razor one day
Love your review, very casual and no bs. I was deciding which one I wanted and your review made me choose the R41. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Battle of the Titans. I also liked the shaving brush. It looks impressive and powerful. Although I prefer to use medium sized brushes. Thank you very much Geo!
Thanks Dismont! Those brushes mix great lather, and feel great when applying, along with being appealing to the eye!
I had both of them and I don't have none of them now. Progress won against them for me. It's worth mentioning that there were 3 (?) versions of R41, so it's hard to learn about this razor, because you can read review from someone with older version. R41 isn't that agressive as people say. For me both of them are good razors and Muhle is manufacturing beautiful handles.
takes dedication to shave for a demo. kudos to you, buddy!
Hey!
Thank you for the review!
As a noob in this world I learnt a lot of your videos. Some things can't be found at Spain, but I perform well when shaving with your advices and techniques.
Thank you :)
My pleasure-free is good!
Love the R89.
Just got an r89 for xmas. Nice and smooth but eventually I am planning on getting the r41
I just purchased the Muhle R41 from Shave Nation. 👍🏼
Il tuo bagno è SPETTACOLARE 😎
Il più bello tra tutti quelli degli youtubers tonsori...😅
Complimenti per il canale 👍🇮🇹
R89 Starter set, than i got the R41, great results and in between these two, the Rocca. Love all of them.
R41 for the first pass, R89 for the 2nd and 3rd. Or get a Parker Variant or Progress and adjust as needed.
Good plan!
New camera. Nice!
You noticed, you like? Thanks!
love from india , i love clean shave and great fan of your skills of shaving.❤❤
Thank you Sahil! Enjoy.
Great shave duo Geo!
Thanks Dallas!
Hi Geo, thanks for all these fantastic vids! I’m a recent convert to DE safety razors and won’t go back to cartridges. I shave my head so use a Merkur Progress 510 on setting 2 and use an R41 for my face.
I noticed you use Castle Forbes Scottish products - that’s only 10 miles from my house! 😁
Thanks Yanik! You live by the castle? How cool is that!?
@@geofatboy I sure do, there are loads of castles here! I’m also only 20 miles from the world’s best Scotch whisky distilleries!
Good to see Geo back in the 'den' without the Greek background 😁 Superb efficiency as usual and never a nick or cut. You made the R41 look like an every day piece of cake. 👌
In all the videos of Geo, I always find he loads up his brush with more soap than necessary. I’d be amazed if Geo makes that much lather on a daily basis and isn’t doing this for RUclips. Would burn through the soap. I watched his Proraso shaving cream video and created a crazy amount of soap and lather just using a pea sized amount of cream as opposed to the quarter sized amount in his bowl.
How about this one: ruclips.net/video/X-zpzKpcVcM/видео.html
@@geofatboy much better Geo. There weren’t pools of lather and foam in this video. Good job! Also I wasn’t trying to be overly critical of your videos or method or offend you in my initial post. It just made me wonder if I were doing something wrong by not making so much lather and foam.
I just bought a R89 even though I only shave once every three days. I maintain a Designer Stubble (see your other video), but shave my lower neck and always had irritation with cartridges. According to your video with shaving only once every three days I should use a R41. Maybe I'll move to that when I get a bit more experience if I think its required and let's first practice with the R89 :D
Hi Kevin-Definitely get used to your R89 then when you have mastered it go for the R41. shavenation.com/search?q=R41
You've got a beautiful bathroom!
I think it's green screen 😬
I love my R89 and copied counterparts. The R41 I don't have I'm an every day shaver. Medium beard thickness. I get burns with super aggressive razors. I have a few.
Thanks for the video. Sold my R41 because I couldn’t handle it.... 6 months later I bought a nee one because I missed it.
Thats called Buyers Remorse!
geofatboy surely seller’s remorse?
John Priestman well he sold it then bought it, so both!
Had an R41 head then bought an R89. Now a two-headed Muhle. Love it!
Julio Giuliani Same but other way around.. This is also why I didnt bought the Twist Version
Thanks for your video. I follow geofatboy shaving style👍
Today I used the R89 with a R41 top cap very aggressive close shave.
Just bought both from SN so some good points to consider here.
The Parker 65R is right in the middle! ((89-41)/2)+41 =65, and don't forget the 'R'.
thanks, exactly where i was looking for!!!
Great shave very informative thanks for sharing
Thanks John!
The best Muhle razor is the Rocca with the new improved head(V3)!
V4
Great comparison and review!
i find my merkur 23c to be pretty good at finishing of problem areas, but doing a full shave with it seem to take a lot of effort.
maybe starting with r41 and then do the second pass with r89 could be nice. might be a bit excessive to use multiple razors though.
i've been using mostly straights but don't feel like reusing it after cleaning it of, 23c is placed conveniently in a holder while most other stuff is packed down in their packages.
Nice shave
Right On Jay!
Nice review!
Thanks Chris!
I can confirm on my personal experience r89 is really mild. A bit too mild for me...
Just ordered the 89 twist 👍👍
Great!
Thanks, Geo. Glad to catch this very recent video of yours comparing the two really well-known Mühle safety razors. I figured, at first, that it must be a rerun, but no.
I have one question. It seems that the R41 is like "King of the Hill," when considering open-combs. I have several open-comb heads that I've purchased to get an idea of open-combs. I haven't purchased a Mühle open-comb. Is there any quality, attribute or aspect of its performance that sets it apart in such a way as to be superior, supreme or whatever? You've given a good demo and explanation of these two Mühle razors. Just wondering what you might say about the R41's status or rank among open-combs.
Thanks again, Geo. Being from South Bend, IN (though in San Jose, CA now), I was glad to find out, recently in a video of yours or maybe in the video of you and Lynn Abrams, that you are a Chicago guy. Never wondered about where you were located, but figured it was someplace in the New England part of the U.S.
Thank you for making such great videos geo! Really enjoyed it.
I got a R89 myself for about a month now but even though i really take care of my skin and pay attention during the shave I unfortunately still have to deal with razorburn in the neck area ... Not sure what i could do better to prevent it apart from practicing of course :D
Have you tried a pre-shave and then an after shave balm. Either or both will definitely help.
@@geofatboy Thank you for your response geo!
I'm using after shave balm already but definitely giving pre-shave a shot now. Do u have any recommendations ?
It's really about the practice. The R89 was my first DE 2-3 months ago and I also struggled a bit with razor burn for the first 1-2 months. If you think you don't apply any pressure you probably still apply a bit of pressure. Also check the direction of your beard growth.
Rayzor preshave is definitely a thing. Helps a lot. Technique is important also for the neck.
@@zRayzor Try argan oil or jojoba oil as pre-shave. Just few drops will make your skin smoother and the blade will slide smooth on your face
I noticed a curious thing, I have both, and one had 4 stamped on to the top, and other had 5, and the one with the "4" has more aggressive angle, and out of curiosity I mixed them up used the milder "5" with the open comb. I personally liked the mild open comb better than the aggressive, and my blades last longer than with the aggressive one. Gets my jawline better than either in their original configuration.
Sometimes the best things happen by accident! You found the winning formula.
Is the R89 similar in aggressiveness then to the Merkur 34C? Gives me that impression.
Yes, excellent question by A. M. How does it compare to the 34C and Edwin Jagger?
Anyone?
I recon 34c is milder than R89
@@juliusu6615 ah ok. I have experience with mostly Merkurs like 34c, 25c, 23c, the 1904/1906, but also the Muhle R41, and the Parker 22R. Most of those are mild which it what I tend to prefer usually. So I tend to try to assess a razor's aggressiveness based on what I have the most experience with.
Yes, you are exactly right.
I'm pretty sure the Muhle R89 is the same razor as an Edwin Jagger DE89. Just a different handle and branding.
Great bss shave king whenever I use the r41 on the against the grain pass my beard doesn't appear before 48 hours
I feel you Bro! Same here.
It’s afraid to come out of hiding!
It seems like R41 is the best razor in the world till now !
now I have a question from you Great George , if you want to pick a razor between R41 and 34C HD , which one will you choose and why ? or please if you can make a video and compare these two !
The 34C shaves much more similar to the R89 - mild to medium as well... Tough call, it depends how often I'm shaving
Hej Geo, the Merkur competitor of R89, Edwin Jagger has come up with a n e w one besides the DE89. The 2ONE6. Guess you're aware of this already. Cheers, Achim+
3ONE6
Hi Achim, Edwin Jagger has sent me a 3ONE6 Stainless Steel razor. I now have it in my possession! Haven't shaved with it yet though.
Tks
geofatboy Hi, Geo. If 3one6 is already in stock, then you need to make a detailed review and shave.
AWSOME video, thank you!
Great comparison, geofatboy! Thanks! I just purchased a Muhle R89 Grande after being away from DE razors since the late 70's. I've had almost no issues with nicks and zero cuts. I shave every day and make 3 passes, but I usually have to clean up. Right now, I'm using Muhle K1 blades that I bought with it. I'd be okay with a little more aggressive shave. I'm not sure of jumping up to a R41 is necessary. Would a more aggressive blade make a difference? If so, any recommendations? Also, I've recently read where guys use a shim or two. Is that a good idea or not? Thanks!
I would recommend the Feather Blade 👍🏻
Great review
Thank you Roland.
Does anyone know if the R41 is more or less aggressive than the Merkur Futur on its highest setting?
I have both and can say that the R41 is much less aggressive than the Merkur Futur on its highest setting.
I wish you would freestyle on your shaves
Johnny! I got the words all laid out already-I just need a good heavy beat!
Which is better to use a razor R41 or R89? Which gentler shave is not too aggressive?
Had a Muhle R89 until it broke, it gave a great shave. Then tried a Parker 22R much more aggressive. Do I go back to the 89 or try the 41? Just wish they would make the handles longer on the Muhle.
I have the R89 - it's a good razor if you don't mind to have 3 passes.
I love when you shave fully with the both edges before you clean it up.
I know most DE razor can take all the half face with no problem 6:18 - 7:15 before clean the razor again.
But ist only with the aggressive razors or all razors?
When I see others don't do it like that, it annoys me and then I stop the video and scroll it.
Greetings from Palestine!
Excelent rewiew
Thank you! Cheers!
I want a razor that can mow down the vast majority of the growth in a single ATG or XTG pass when I don't feel like doing the whole 3-pass routine. The R41 looks like just the ticket. I bet it'll slice with authority regardless of what blade I put in it... as long as it's not a Treet "black beauty", haha.
R41 is what you want: shavenation.com/search?q=r41
@@geofatboy Any chance you might get just the heads by themselves in at some point? I was wanting to put it on an Ikon handle for maximum grippyness.
Can you recomend a razor thats more aggressive than the muhle r89 and less aggresive than the r41? Sort of in betwen thoose too.
Even Freedy Kruger respects the R41 LOL. 🔪💀💈😁✌️
He knows what's up!
Nice video . Greetings from Germany.
DE89 was my first DE then I upgraded to the R41 and never looked back.
Bam! #beastmode
Hi Geo,
I have never bought or used the R41. What is the blade gap on it? I have the Karve with a •98 gap and a Blackbird that feels like a straight razor. Is the R41 much more aggressive than the Karve D plate?.........as I said it's •98 gap.
Hope you are well mate!
Dave, from England.
r41 is perfect
Hey geofatboy, I have a quick question. Would you recommend shaving everyday with the R41?
would you try the R89 on a 2 weeks beard?
i think it might do his job with a sharp blade
Nice shave
🤘😃🤘
It is really difficult to compare the beast with any other razor!
You might call it the "T REX" of razors. See what I did there❓
Oh yes! Exactly Geo!
Hi Geo, could you do a shave compare between the R41 and the Cobra Classic...???
Would be nice if they sold the older smaller R41 heads again.
I fail to see any reason whatsoever to directly compare these 2 razors. They are totally polar opposites like chalk and cheese. Good video as always Geo despite the subject. I really enjoy your work which usually gives me great insight into all aspects of DE shaving.
Thanks Gerard, Its interesting to me that they look nearly exactly alike but shave like polar opposites.
Hi Geo you brought us old time fans of yours to a place where we expect you to somehow reinvent aspects of DE shaving for us. We are spoiled from all your excellent videos and we continually expect you to pull that new DE shaving idea that transforms our mundane shaves. Much respect brother!
Actually, I thought it was a very helpful and interesting comparison.
The quality is NOT perfect on my R41, I bought it from a supplier in Australia and the top cap has burning marks under it, the supplier said that it's normal machine marks on the R41
It is not normal. It is german product. They wouldn't sell bad finished razor.
I can't find a razer that I could use comfortably every single day. I need to shave at least every second day
Der R41 ist mir zu aggressiv. Nur wenn ich einen 4 Tage Bart habe kann ich ihn benützen.
Für die tägliche Rasur benütze ich nur den R89
Tolles Video, liebe Grüße aus Deutschland
Vielen Dank fürs Zuschauen und die positiven Kommentare!
I prefer a hot shower while my brush and razor soak in hot water then pre-shave cream, R41 with a feather blade.
Good plan!
Nice!!!!
Thanks Neil!
Would r41 be good for every day use with agressive growth ?
You are really creative thinks
I shave everyday and decided to replace my Gillette Fusion for a Merkur 34c with Feather blades some months ago. I like the overall experience with a safety razor, but I also notice that it has been causing me more irritation than before… for everyday shave, would it make sense to try any of these Muhle razors?
Have you tried the R89? bit.ly/R89RazorSN
@@geofatboy thanks a lot! I have not, but I have greatly improved my experience with my Merkur 34c in the past days. I have a thick and fast growing hair; so I do have to shave everyday (at least every 2 days) if I want to keep a clean look. I am seeing how to do the job with fewer passes, as quick as possible, without irritating the skin. Perhaps the muhle 89 will be an alternative or perhaps I can move to something more aggressive in the future… thanks again!