Turkish Air-to-air Kills in Syrian Civil War (Part 2, Shootdown of Russian Su-24)
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- In 2015. the situation in Syria started to change. Russian military intervention strenghtened the position of Assad's government. It also made things more complicated for other involved parties such as Turkey. While they could shoot down Syrian military aircraft that violated Turkish border even briefly without consequences, doing the same thing with Russian aircraft was a different matter. Nevertheless, in November 2015. that is exactly what happened. Turkish F-16s shot down a Russian Su-24. How each side viewed and explained this? Differently, of course.
In 2020. the Turkish involvement in Syria was getting more direct than ever before. Now, their aircraft didn't just shoot down Syrian ones that entered Turkish airspace but those that simply attacked Turkish backed insurgent groups. This resulted in several more air-to-air kills for the Turks. Their victims included another Mi-17 helicopter, two Su-24 bombers and an L-39 light trainer/attack aircraft.
In this DCS World reenactment, you will be able to see the details behind all those incidents.
Main sources:
- Tom Cooper - Syrian Conflagration -The Syrian Civil War, 2011-2013
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- Tom Cooper - Moscow's Game of Poker - Russian Military Intervention in Syria, 2015-2017
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- Jan J. Safarik Air Aces Home Page; Turkey - Syrian Civil War
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- The day a Turkish F-16C shot down a Russian Su-24 attack aircraft: an in-depth analysis of the infamous November 24, 2015 shooting down that nearly started World War III
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- “Turkish Air Force F-16s ambushed the Su-24 Fencer”: here’s Russia’s version of the controversial shootdown
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- Shocking video shows the moment a SyAAF Mi-17 Helicopter is hit by Missile (allegedly fired by Turkish Backed Militia) Over Syria
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- Turkish Air Force F-16 Reportedly Shot Down Syrian Mi-17 Helicopter By AIM-120 AMRAAM Missile: Reports
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- Turkish F-16 Downed Syrian Mi-17 Helicopter Over Idlib - Reports
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- Turkish Air Force Shot down two Syrian Su-24 Jets after Turkish Drone was shot down over Idlib Region, Syria
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- Turkish Air Force F-16 Shot Down Syrian L-39 over Syria
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Once again an outstanding summary
Thanks for your support!
I'm Syrian and I remember when Cpt. Murakhtin was rescued after the SU-24 incident by Syrian special forces the Russian Air force in Khmemiem Airbase celebrated by flying Mi-8s, Mi-24s and Ka-50 Black Sharks in formation while flying the Syrian flag on one of the Mi-8s
Also great video and amazing reenactment as always
Love from your Syrian subscriber♥️
Thank you for another share of personal experience. I'm glad you like the video. You might like the one that will be released today a little less....
@@showtime112 No matter the video, I'm excited nonetheless
hello friend could you give detail of war
Fantastic as always..... your easily one of if not the best DCS youtuber out there.
Your praise is very welcome 😁
The effort put into the soundtrack deserves its own channel 👍
Thanks. It sometimes takes a couple of days just to find and sort out these little pieces.
@@showtime112 My hat's off to ya, there have been a couple of times the audio was synced up so well I forgot it was DCS.
Yes!! I asked for the video and you did it! Much love brother! Just missing the Russian shoot down of the Korean Airliner
Glad to be of service 😁 The Korean airliner will have to be approximated somehow. Maybe when they release MiG-23 module. It's not the airplane that was involved but it's not too different.
Need an Su-15 Flagon for that
@@kovolenko5605 Could use a MiG-15 or 17 because I doubt the SU-15 will come into DCS
@@sgt_loeram1933 True, that's very unlikely. It's a relatively obscure aircraft
The Turkish Armed Forces, which started the Spring Shield Operation against Idlib, shot down 3 warplanes belonging to the Syrian regime so far.
On March 1, the Turkish Armed Forces shot down two SU-24 type warplanes in the Cebel Zaviye region.
The third plane was shot down on March 3, 2020. The last plane shot down was L-39.
The place where the planes were shot down is an area close to the area where 36 soldiers were killed by the air strike.
Peace Eagle gave early notice
The military sources spoke to by Independent Turkish stated that the Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircraft (E7T HEİK), also known as the "Peace Eagle", contributed greatly to the downing of these planes.
Detecting the regime planes approaching the units of the TAF, HEIK reported this to the F-16s, which carried out air patrols with data transfer in a very short time.
F-16s engaged the regime planes that they coded as "enemy" using the radar data transmitted to them by the early warning aircraft and fired from within the Turkish airspace.
Radar turned off, missile fired
F-16s, which also turned off their radar so that their location would not be detected by Syrian aircraft, fired active radar seeker and beyond-sight range air-to-air missiles (BVRAAM) at Syrian regime warplanes.
Military sources state that the ground jammer Korals also support this activity.
It is stated that electronic warfare elements are used extensively in both Armed UAV raids and F-16 activities in Idlib.
Source: www.indyturk.com/node/141151/haber/tsk-3-suriye-u%C3%A7a%C4%9F%C4%B1n%C4%B1-nas%C4%B1l-vurdu-bar%C4%B1%C5%9F-kartal%C4%B1-koral-f-16-i%C5%9Fbirli%C4%9Fi
Thanks for sharing those details. I wish I had known them before, the video would have been more accurate.
God bless our Nato Allies Turkey
@@michaelcady9936 one day europeans and america may learn,how we fought to stop russia in libya and syria,hundreds of souls lost against fighting ısıs and pkk-ypg (communist terrorists supported by america),iran backed groups,russian wagner etc etc.
@@Serkanbah turkiye is the best!!
Your very clear and calm narration is excellent, even more in episodes with conflicting views, like this one.
Thanks, I'm glad you like it.
Awesome vid! Keep it coming.
Thanks, a new one in the works right now!
Adding a few knot wind will make the smoke look more realistic.
I always forget to set the wind. Making a note 😁
@@showtime112 regardless, your videos are some of the best DCS re-enactments
Great video, but you forget to mention Turkish E7-T Peace Eagles. Most probably, they used in many interceptions by Turkey.
Well done Turkish Airforce👏, bravo
The surviving pilot of the RuAF Su-24 was rescued by a team of 18 SAA commandos and 8 Hezbollah from "Ridwan", at the time the russians DON´T have Spetsnaz units in Syria..........Why?????.......only God knows.
There are indications that the whole Syrian operation was quite rushed. They didn't even have a proper intelligence about the situation on the ground long after their arrival.
@@showtime112 Is true......and the first confirmed sight of Spetsnaz in Syria was in Aleppo in the spring of 2016.
Excellent recreations as always
Much appreciated!
You make really good informative videos of less known incidents. When the F4U Corsair would come out, would you make a video of the 100 Hour War (or also known as the Football War) between Honduras and El Salvador? DCS already has the P-51 Mustang and those were the two major opponents (also some DC-3, T-28 Trojan were used but no real alternative for them now).
Thank you for your comment and suggestion. Something like that might be done someday. I remember watching some documentary about it, I'll try to find more information.
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Aviation History 100 %. GREAT, and CONGRATULATIONS, another EXCELLENT video.
Stay away from political comments in the same way you have been doing it.
Thanks! Your suggestion is becoming increasingly difficult these days.
@ Pablo Peter Why should he 🙈🙉🙊? It's his free will to do so. We in the West call it! Speech of freedom... Means! You are entitled to post your opinion.
@@LockOnNow My suggestion is focus to keep this matters free if political matters inorder to see the facts in the technical point of view, as it should be in the aviation.
@@pablopeter3564 We all have our political views, especial these days, so it's not that easy to separate them from the current war events going on and being so close to a 3 WW if that leaves one meaningless, I don't know. It also shows that Showtime112 is not just a RUclipsr doing historical aviation events using DCS no he is also somebody who is concerned about the current situation (AS MOST OF US I GUESS) and shows it which I find a good thing to do. (If I may say so). I am also being concerned, about the current situation which is a real mess and dangerous, if Russia had been a democracy we wouldn't be where we are right now nearly facing a 3WW.
Very good commentary!! Thanks
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Great content. I do miss your theme music though.
Great video.
Thank you!
Outstanding.
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Great narration but at 7:30 I wouldn’t call a tow missile small arms fire lol because it’s on video being hit with one.
My dear friend showtime 112
Always amazing us with video of this events.
You have a new work the Russia- Ukraine conflect and the aviation event.
I think it will be in the future.
Thank you my dear for your magnificent videos and explanation of the events
Thank you very much for your positive feedback. As for the current war, I thought I would wait until later but there might be something about it soon.
I love this channel
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Congratulations to Turkish pilots👏👏👏👍👍
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Yet another classic documentary.
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I love the Turks, go man go
F-16s are beautiful birds have always proved their worth against Russian Planes , Migs and Sukhois
Few people dislike them, I can tell you that.
@@showtime112 spot on !
The Russians were warned. They should have respected the border.
This dogfight was one f-16 of the turkish air force va. One su-24-fencer of the syrian árabe air force. This model Is the russian versión of the fb-111c.
11:54
Surprised DCS has the Syrian Su-24M2 skin.
That's actually a custom skin. I can't remember where I downloaded it.
wow... the Russsian SU was in Turk airspace for 7-10-17 seconds, whatever and the Turks shot it down??
Also, Turks seem to love engaging helicopters and tactical bombers with F16s. It makes you wonder, what would they need against another F16??
But hey, it looks like they've upped their game. Now they are shooting down.... training jets????!!!!
Brave tORCS!
That's according to Turkish sources. Russians claim there was no violation at all. I have to admit that the Turks seem a little trigger happy here...
Average Greek, keep crying under everything related to Turks. Also, of course they are going to shoot down CAS/training aircraft my Greek friend when it is on an attack pathway to friendly forces. And you are also saying that we used F16s to shoot down helicopters and bomber aircraft as if we werent supposed to??? Like what does that even mean? Were we supposed to wait for them to come and drop their payload? 🤦🏻♂️
@@-Shadow__Rider- Ohhh, "friendly forces" hey?
The ISIS terrorists of the Islamic state are the friendly forces ?
Also, i'd prefer to be an "average Greek", pointing out turkish aggression, over a being the "average Turk", killing anyone with the slightest shade of reason.
@@georgetosounidis5545 there are Turkish outposts as well as Turkish soldiers on the ground. This most certainly is not just a shade of reason. Dont you have other things to do other than hating Turkey in Greece?
@@-Shadow__Rider- there are turkish invaders in Syria, i know, but the Russians were targeting the ISIS terrorists, which of course turkey supported.
If the Russians wanted to hit the turks they would have done it without a problem, as they did it later and i'm sure you remember the incident ;)
So did the Egyptians / UAE in Lybia :D
However, turks killed at least 1 of the pilots who was captured, i guess it's their way of showing how tough they are.
We don't hate turkey in Greece, it just seems that turks hate humans in general, never missing an opportunity for yet another war crime.
By the way we have lots of other things to do in Greece, some of which are stockpiling napalm and rat poison ;)
I’m led to believe the Russian side is correct because the su 24 in the actual video did not go defensive and the angle of the lock was rough
Well, even the Turkish version states that the airspace violation was extremely minor. When I was setting up this video, it became quite clear to me that many factors needed to 'click' together to recreate it exactly as it was described. I.e. it looks like the Turks were just waiting for a chance.
@@showtime112 Turkey's shooting down of the Russian plane is deeper than it seems. Many foreigners don't know this. Frankly, it's hard to explain this. In summary, some agents among us (FETO) deliberately shot down the Russian plane in order to bring relations with Russia to a breaking point. In this way, the USA gained more control over Türkiye. "Look, you have a bad relationship with the Russians, your brother will protect you."
@@showtime1127:56
the turkish airforce needs a nerf this is getting out of hand 🥱
please pro its name syrian army not assad forses and syrian goverenment not assad reigime and by the way my home is under the aircraft in 1:29 and i have seen the emerjency land and it was mi 28 not mi 17
You could have waved for the camera 😁 As for the helicopter type, we might not be talking about the same thing. There were a couple of Russian Mi-28s that made emergency landings in Syria. That will be the topic of some future video.
@@showtime112 i always had waved to the aircrafts hhhh it was bombing the terrorism near my village but iam very sure in this insedint it was not mi 17 i see it clearly
Syrian army supported by the Assad regime. Better?
@@Bigman-fh1fz syrian army supported by the syrian goverenment..thats not better but its the true pro
Turkish Air force says "back off mate"
The first shoot down of the Russian SU24 he was popping chaff off like he knew he was in a danger zone
That was AI responding to a missile coming their way. I'm not sure if the actual Su-24 crew popped any chaff but their RWR should have warned them in the AMRAAM terminal phase.
the syrian arab air force loss to much combat aircraft agaisnt the turkish figthers(f-16c) and rebel anti aircraft artillery.
Judging from this one episode, it still seems to me like a very aggressive move by the Turkish airforce. Just one of those cases where you want the RoE followed to the letter to have your back free.
Turks were definitely making a point there, they had an interest in northern Syria and they wanted everyone to understand it. That's what I think.
Always hear that “Alan’s in the snackbar!”
What would you say is the iconic aircraft of the Syrian military in this war?
Hard to say because they used whatever they could. It might be an odd choice but perhaps L-39 Albatross. It flew a lot because it is simple to maintain and every jet pilot in their air fiorce could fly it.
@@showtime112 k, I was wondering because I like to build models of battle fields and the Syrian war has given so much to work with. Ps what do you think would be the best aircraft for the Somalian airforce?
@@terrynewsome6698 Somalian? MiG-21, no doubt.
@@showtime112 do you think old polish su-22 would help against extremists in the south.
@@terrynewsome6698 Well, Su-22 can be useful against opponents that don't have powerful anti-aircraft defense. Especially by pilots experienced with the type.
That was a great snack bar celebration with the helo shoot down.
Odusevljavaju me vazdusne pobede hrabrih turskih pilota. Dva helikoptera, bespilotna i dva Su24 bez oruzja za vazdusnu borbu ..
Vojni pilot je profesionalac koji će obaviti zadaću koja se pred njega stavi. Siigurno neće reći 'ja idem u borbu samo ako neprijatelj ima barem 50% šanse da me ubije'.
@@showtime112 strahovita je koicidencija da bas nikad nisu imali zadatak da presretnu i obore nekog ko moze da se brani. Od hiljada letova Su35 pored njihove granice bas ni jedan im nije zasmetao. Ali im itekako smetaju transportni helikopteri i frontovski bombarderi. Vrlo profesionalno.
@@dusandusanic4566 Your argument is quite pathetic.
The Problem in the Syrian civil war is how to identified ISIL terrorist military units, NATO protect there Anti Assad forces, while Russia identified them has ISIL terrorist war is confusing.
It seems that they didn't have good intelligence for a while and Assad's government directed what should be attacked. And attacking ISIL wasn't necessarily his priority. Quite the opposite.
@@showtime112 okay thanks for the info.
How come the pilot did not eject
AIM-120 i F-16, jako dobra kombinacija
Nisu bez razloga prodali pet milijua ili koliko ono već 😁
ممكن رابط لعبه سو 24
It's just the AI aircraft that comes with DCS.
Russian pilot ejected.warned immediatelyl.....
Lol
AI tends to eject very quickly :)
What do you think? Should the Russians take revenge for a Su 24 ??🤔
Well, some people would call the intercept after only 17 seconds of violation an over-reaction 😁
Revenge? They wouldn’t dare. They have no air superiority over Turkey in that region. Turkey would just knock them down like flies again and again
russia has no ability to take revenge turkish f16s would shoot them down like flys
@@Bigman-fh1fz I doubt a Turkish F-16 wants to meet a SU 35? It’s much easier to show muscles against a SU 24.
@@stoyanstoyanov868 the su35 is getting its ass handed to it by ukrainian MiGs 😂
kelllometerrrrrrs, helicopterrrrrrr, theaterrrrrr😂😂😂😂
ima li Su-24 neki posebni nišan za bombe? Tipa da ne mora gledati s nosom prema dolje jer ima poseban nišan kojim se može vidjeti kroz "pod" aviona kao kod bombardera iz WW2
Prilično sam siguran da nema. Doduše, ima onaj SVP-24 pomoću kojeg može automatski odbacivati nevođene bombe na definirane koordinate.
Beautiful Russian fighter friends,dont care what side your on.
Russian interpretation: “we will not invade the Ukraine”
And 'We need to de-nazify that country. We'll start with their Jewish president' 😁
Love the "Allahu Akbar"'s.
Well, it is impossible to find any combat footage from the ground without that 😁
@@showtime112 They add to the authenticity, I think your inclusion of actual audio from combat is brilliant.
So Putin win?
Why?
@@showtime112 Turkey come closer to russia, shit on american pupets Kurds, buying S400 , south pipe natural gas, saveing his ass from coupe , close black seas , shit on sanctions, so on so on. Who knows what is next ?
TF you saying
Turkey was doing a very good job of protecting the terrorists of ISIS, targeting the Syrian Air Force, which was supporting the Syrian ground forces. It was really a masterpiece to defend the terrorists, why not ? !! they bought Syrian oil for only $ 7,6 a barrel from ISIS.
That might be one of the reasons, sure.
bro what are you on about?
its a russian propaganda and low iq western europeans believe this nonsense. isis terrorists are vahhabi, we are hanefi, they call us "infidels".
As if Turkey needs to buy a few hundred barrels of oil from ISIS when there are already multiple pipelines from multiple countries pumping tons of oil each day to Turkey, stupid.
Why are you so malicious?türkiye lost nearly 100 martyrs to clear the ISIS militants on the Turkish border. Dozens of Turkish tanks were destroyed by ISIS. Metropolitan cities were subjected to terrorist attacks.
Turki cant control its airforce army, in the next year all airforce army coupt
Huh?
Godzilla had a Stroke reading this