F-5E vs MiG-21 - Battle for Dire Dawa (Ogaden War 1977)
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- In July 1977. a war between Ethiopia and Somalia broke out over the province of Ogaden. This part of internationally recognized territory of Ethiopia was considered by Somalia to be theirs because of the Somalis living there. Superior Somali ground forces quickly advanced. But Ethiopia had one powerful card - their Air Force. Trained by the USA and equipped mostly by several variants of Northrop's F-5, Ethiopian pilots were able to establish air superiority over Soviet-trained Somali pilots flying MiGs.
This would prove to be especially true during the battle of Dire Dawa, an Ethiopian Air Force base where F-5s were able to destroy lots of Somali armor and several air-to-air victories over MiGs were scored at that time as well.
Two Cold War era fighters available in DCS World again clash in this historical reenactment.
Main source:
Tom Cooper - Wings Over Ogaden - The Ethiopian-Somali War 1978-1979
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"Hello everyone, this is Showtime112...". The five best words concerning DCS aircraft and historical aeronautical reenactments! Thanks again for another great installment.
This is very good to hear, thank you for your support!
The primary sources show all these kills were crashes and operational losses. Of course this guy cites Wikipedia (or worse, osprey books) so it doesn't matter. In reality nothing happened in the Ogaden war.
@@markingraham4892 you need a hug?
@@markingraham4892 obviously your dad was a Somali pilot that got shot down by a F-5😂
@showtime112 this is still very accurate
Really great idea making these videos about less well known wars and conflicts! Excellent work!
Thanks! Those lesser known conflicts are among my favorites.
I remembered I was kid born in Dire Dawa ,We use to live in Kezira that time We stay in Catholic Church We were scared the sound a lot of people left the city . I didn't even know my family were they go.... after 2 days I saw my mom and my brothers that nightmare as a kid stay with me for long time I don't like war , Thank you for sharing you remained me my Childhood ,peace for East African 🕯🕊
My father fought at the Ogaden war for Somali National army he belonged to the 26th division head quartered at Hargeisa, he served with the 33 thrd artillery battalion his commander was then captain Abdirashid Ahmed Khalif sayyid Mohammed a great grand son of Sayyid Mohammed Abdille Hassan.My fathers squadron of 11 artillery pieces were spotted and bombed by the Ethiopian airforce at the open fields of Jigjiga they only lost 3 artillery pieces and my father was wounded suffering a shrapnel in his head, broken left leg and left arm he retired from the SNA in 1980 due to injuries he sustained.
😅Please can you tell the father,s name , I was one of your father,s colleges at that time
Ethiopian pilots are well known for their disciplined work ethics and excellent manoeuvre of aircrafts in both civil and military aviation. The names of the pilots, in this documentary ,are Ethiopians, not as some ignorant comments suggesting as Cubans or Russians. We respect and have high regards to both Cubans and Russians.. However, we are capable of doing anything beyond anyone imagination.
Exactly, you nailed it.
They Russian and cuban
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But if we are somalis we also well know infantry and artillery russian leaders saying somali troops using our weapons directly how we learned them
@Abdikahinshukri-gx2cb the soviets were on Ethiopia's side Somalia was on the American side
This was a well made, informative video.
It was not the most entertaining of your work but still high quality work!
Thank you for the hard work.
Thank you for your honest comment 😁
Another excellent video, as always. It's nice to learn more about this obscure air war. Please do give us more.
Btw, just the other day, after I suggested that you use Third Wire's Strike Fighters game to get more appropriate aircraft for your videos, I decided to, after all this time, reinstall Strike Fighters 2 Vietnam, Europe and Israel. Despite the fact that the graphics doesn't stack up well to DCS standards (particularly the terrain and effects), I'm having a lot of fun rediscovering this game, rediscovering the joys of firing a Sparrow, seeing it tracks the target, but explodes just two seconds after launch, well short of the target... Or the joy of being unable to launch a missile because I don't know who the radar has locked up.... And other awkward moments when flying those vintage jets and their limited technology.
Thanks! There will be more from the Ogaden War in the future, some good scenarios are still left there.
I'm glad you are enjoying Strike Fighters! Even older games can be fun. The other day, I was trying to find the old Harpoon strategy game that I played in the 90s to see how I would like it today 😁
Thank you for uploading this. I'd love to see more videos on this conflict.
Thank you for commenting! There will be more videos from the Ogaden War. There are a couple of air-to-air clashes left to do. Plus some interesting airbase raids.
Theres a book called Wings over the Ogaden by Helion publishing that might interest you
Excellent work as ever! Curious as to how many hours do you put in for uploading a video such as this?
Thank you! Production of a video can last between three to five days. That includes research, skin adjustments, subtitles etc.
Those great men lay the foundations for the Ethiopian airforce today.
Great history lessons, and great reenactments
Thank you for your comment!
Great video as always bringing us forgotten aerial conflicts. 🎩♠🏵🎯🏁💙💛🌻🇺🇸🍀
Thank you! Quite a lot of those are left, so stick around :)
@@showtime112 will do as I enjoy your content and channel.
Great narration and accurate capture of a forgotten piece of war history. Great job 👏
Thank you very much for the positive comment!
F-5 videos are always welcome!
It's not a big star but lots of people love it!
I would take an F5E over an early MIG21 any day, the F5 can out turn just about any fighter jet back in that day, the only thing the MIG had on the F5 was speed and maybe radar (not sure about the F5E radar)
During the Ogaden War, Ethiopians and their Cuban allies did some mock-up dogfights between the F-5E and MiG-21. They concluded that F-5E was superior in most aspects. So, that confirms what you are saying.
@@showtime112 Just a quick question. We're the migs used early versions or the BIS version we see in dcs?
@@crimsonmageone7340 Somali MiG-21s were MFs. Ethiopia would later get some bis models from the USSR.
Showtime112 another great video from another forgotten war.
I'm so glad you liked it! Thanks!
Another awesome video showtime.
I was wondering, are the assets you use available as campaigns from the DCS site?
Or do you just piece everything together from various different mods?
Thanks! The videos are not available as campaigns and missions. I did it for the first couple of these videos but in most cases, reenacting a specific event needs to be done in several separate scenarios (plus many tricks). So, there might be a scenario just for the takeoff, then another for the part where two forces meet and so on. Replicating a historical event in a single DCS mission is often next to impossible.
Heroes Ethiopia Africa ❤❤
Somalians almost reached Addis. Russia saved you. Truth
These Ethiopian pilots were top tier
Yes. They didn't have many aircraft (at least not until they started ordering large quantities from the USSR), but they only selected the best for the Air Force.
They were flown by Russians and Cubans
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@LST25 Russians and Cubans flying F5 what is wrong with u accept ur defeat
@@ahadu_entertainmentRussians and Cubans was literally caught by the Somali army accept it u could never beat Somali on ur own
@@LST25jealous
Thank you for the video.Great work.
You are welcome, glad you liked it!
awesome video, as always .
I appreciate your support!
One correction, when Zomalia concured ETHIOPIA, there were no Ethiopian army on their boarder side! The army was on the northe for serious civil war. That is why Zoomalis treid to take chance. There was only police and regional forces!
Keep dreaming buddy
@EthiotendoMapping what you saying bro?
@@eastsoldierson somalia can't conquer ethiopia
Cry
Cope @@ዮስ
Awesome vids. Keep it up, please.
I am very grateful for this positive feedback!
These videos are amazing.
Thanks, glad you like them!
Još jedna napeta rekonstrukcija! Čim je MiG-21 u igri, to je već zanimljivo 😀
Svugdje ga je bilo 😁
Il faudrait avoir le MIG-17 sur DCS, pour nous offrir le combat du siècle entre un F5-E éthiopien qui mit à mal 5 appareils ennemis somaliens en une seule journée dans cette guerre de l'Ogaden.
Un record du monde pour l'aviation de chasse à réaction au XX siècle !!!
C'est un conflit oublié mais très intéressant comme l'est le conflit entre l'Afrique du Sud et l'Angola qui est lui aussi trop peu connu.
Cependant, vous avez déjà rendu hommage à ce conflit dans une précédente vidéo, c'était super !!!
Lorsque le mirage F1 sortira sur DCS, ce ne serait tardé, vous pourrez aussi faire des vidéos sur cette même guerre que l'on appelle the AFRICAN BORDER WAR et vous pourrez aussi exploiter pleinement le conflit Iran-Irak des années 80 avec cette appareil de combat français.
De même le mirage F1, il y a eu un conflit avec le Maroc et l'Espagne, le Maroc a endommagé un navire espagnol avec cet avion.
Encore merci encore pour cette vidéo, car les conflits militaires aériens les moins connus sont les plus intéressants parce qu'ils mettent en scène des pays à faible notoriété international.
Les grosses opérations interalliées de l'OTAN des années 90, 2000, et 2010, sont moins intéressantes car c'est la différence technologique militaire du camp occidental qui est l'arbitre de ces interventions. C'est moins enivrant car on sait qui gagne à la fin car elles ont été trop médiatisées.
Thank you for your elaborate comment!
MIG-17 is coming to DCS and I'm really looking forward to it. Among other things, to reenact the clash between Ethiopians and Somalis that you mention.
And I'm also getting the Mirage F1 as soon as it's available. A couple of scenarios from the South African Border War are already prepared. And sure, it also opens up possibilities from the Iran-Iraq War. They did shoot down a couple of Tomcats which I'm sure people will want to see.
And I noticed that conflicts such as 2003. Iraq don't attract too much attention but I personally like doing them and we have plenty o assets in DCS to for them. Maybe they get more traction in the future, who knows?
@@showtime112 I try to answer in my poor level of english. It's wonderfull news and I will follow these new stories on your channel. Anyway I saw everything that you have produced since the begining. You have to continue to offer you Iraq war on 1991 and 2003, there are some interesting stories about special opérations. Thank you very much for your answer. An advice : You must keep going because it is fascinating, we learn a lot from your stories of war, it's important we discover a lot of things that we didn't know.
And we share the knowledge, that this is the most important for me. SEE YOU SOON.
@@jeannezehner9450 Bonne réplique en Anglais, mes Félicitations.
@@showtime112 Hello, It's me again, sorry for disturbing you a sunday morning, I have forgotten one conflict about mirage F1. It's the CENEPA war which takes place on 1995, between Ecuador against the Peru. Two ecuadorians mirage F1, the leader and his wingman,shooted down 2 SU-17 or SU-22 ( I'm not sure about the version of this plane) in one mission, one each. I don't know if DCS has the right version of the peruvian's plane ( I think you can choose the SU-22 on DCS), but it's very interesting conflict, not lot of people know this short war. When you have made your first video about the Ogaden war, i follow a special series in french version about this conflict and i learnt a lot. Consequences of this conflict, the war has exhausted Somalia, and the dictature falled down. This is the reason why, there 'is the intervention in 1993 of the USA to restore the country and we know that 's happened, it's the Ridley Scott film "the fall of the black hawk". Good weekend, see you soon and thank you very much for your work of knowledge.
@@jeannezehner9450 Your English is just fine. Thank you for your support and for every video that you watched. I intent to continue with these videos, there are many more stories to explore. Especially when more modules become available in DCS (there are some good ones in the pipeline).
finally!!! a new vid!!!! :D
I switched back to Saturday to see if there's any difference :)
DCS. Keep grinding and play the DCS.
Somali pilots were operating outside the ground control, and the Somali mig21s didnt have their own radars. Plus, Somali pilots didn't train on how to dog fight. Somali air force had a good strike power for African standards but it didn't have the complete equipment and training to fully utilise the jets they had
That sounds about right.
Shot down nefetcan kusarey gercc
please make a video about F-5 in Vietnam war
It might be a future topic, thank you for the suggestion!
Cool fight . Well made.
It's sad to watch the vast beautiful land turning into war zone & wasteland, instead of being used for farmland to build strong economic source to feed the Ethiopian people.
Let's hope peace will prevail in the region to the benefits of the Ethiopian & Somali peoples.
Good and hard work 👍🎉
Your comment is much appreciated!
It is great work of edit, can you create the same video while Bezabih attacking Eritrea air port, been shot down his plane of course captured s
It might be covered some day but I can't say when precisely.
A good one !
Glad you liked it!
The captured Cuban captain Mr Orlando Cardoso in 1977 in battle written a book talking about war between both countries, he mentioned Ethiopia Cuban and Russian armies lost against Somali Army.
Lol, flying on fumes :D. I did that more then once in DCS, its awesome to hear it happen IRL too :)
I can remember a couple of more historical examples without even researching much. It seems to happen quite often.
@@showtime112 Great to know!
Verry Nice !Ethiopian AIR FORSE !
Excuse me, I write again about the Mirage F1, there's a kill by a R530 guided missile shot by an Iraki mirage F1 to a turkish F 100 F super sabre due to a violation of the border.
It was officialy recognized by Ankara governement, on the 6 september 2012. This accident took place on the 17 september 1983. The French didn't kill nothing, existes the version of a dogfight with a Libyan TU-22, but it's wrong it's because I have seen personaly pieces of this plane in Chaumont-Semoutiers in 1993.
In fact, this plane was shot by a HAWK missile which came from a french battery of aerial suppression. So, it's not a dogfight.
Have a good rest and I'm waiting the next video. Thank you for reading and being patient because I'm not an expert in the english writing.
I have to say I haven't heard about the Turkish F-100 shot down by Iraqi Mirage but thanks for mentioning it. Might be an interesting story to do someday.
There's also a Greek F1 that crashed after maneuvering against some Turkish F-16s on low level. If I find details about that one, might be a good story too.
@@showtime112 Excellent, after your enquiry and a historical confirmation it could be well to make this story one day. See You.
The air combat between Ethiopia and Somalia during the Ogaden war, is a prime example for how "The man behind the machine" makes difference. Somalia was equipped with a far superior Mig 21 where as Ethiopia was equipped with a less superior F-5. However Ethiopian pilots were highly qualified and trained change the war game with their equipments. When war Brock, Ethiopian heroic pilots pick and kill every Somalian jets and bombers one by one. After the last kill, up until today no Somalia airforce jet ever pass one inch to Ethiopian border. To this day, Somalia never have an operational airforce. The bottom line:- The quality of training and heroic and pathriotic feeling makes a difference more than the equipment.
W ethiopia 💪🏿
😂😂😂😂 lmao
Lier Somali win 1977 viva somali for ever.ethiopian bus like yahuud Free Palestine Sea to river and Land from apartheid Israel apartheid
The reverse is true
It’s the opposite: They had superior American jets and better training. America and Russia and Israel and Cuba did us dirty. The was no resistance to the Somali army because Ogaden is populated, and is Somali.
Its my second video watching Ethiopian pilots whooping ass badly 🤣
More is yet to come 😁
💪🏿🇪🇹 ethiopia is strong
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@@axmedsayid9508 so funny you lost nearly your entire airforce and 1 in 3 somalis came across the border alive
@@ዮስ and tell me where your all F5 gone lmao 24+
Ethiopian pilot is the world class pilot ever
Soviet-trained pilots "try doing anything beyond flying straight and level while waiting for orders" challenge: failed
Poor bastards (literally poor) never seemed to get any seat time for mock dogfights at all.
Judging from multiple sources I've found, that sums it up.
Is this the only time the F-5 has been in an air to air combat situation?
Apart from this war, The F-5 also saw air-to-air combat in the Iran-Iraq War. And I believe a Greek F-5 shot down a Turkish F-102 in 1974.
It isn't the machine but the hearts of men, Viva to Somalia, lion of Africa
Ethiopia Lion ❤❤❤❤
Ethiopia,the land of origion!!!
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Thanks!
what missiles were the migs carrying?
Old R-3S
@@showtime112 what an unfair fight lmao
A funny thing, in the famous US Navy "Top Gun" trainning program, the F-5 become a "MiG-21"......😁😁
And in the Top Gun movie, it became MiG-28 😂
@@showtime112 Yes......in the 90´s the F-18 was the "Su-27" in the trainning .
I was wondering if you could help me with something? There's this book about the Falklands/Malvinas conflict. It's in Spanish language and perhaps you've come across it. There is a file called 'Malvinas La Guerra Aerea - Skyhawk A-4Q'. It's quite amazing, exactly what I need for the future South Atlantic map. But it only seems to be a part of a book focusing on A-4s of the Navy. Do you know the full title or author's name? Can it be bought in some electronic format? Thanks in advance!
@@showtime112 "Skyhawks over the South Atantic" by Santiago Rivas cover Air force and Navy A-4 operations, is in Amazon.
@@alejandrocasalegno1657 Thanks!
Ethiopia was not only supported with weapons but also by troops and air support by many countries including USSR, Cuba and South Yemen which were all communists.
Cold War politics were sometimes extremely complex
@@showtime112 Yes I agree, but Somalia was supported only with military hardware, but Ethiopia was supported with both military hardware and personnel.
@@cabdirshidosman9649because you invade the country with there hard time
@@EphesonZegeye No, Ethiopia had a coupe in 1974 and the war was in 1977.
Aeroport dire I love because my house family is near handicap between aero Age 5year refuge from 🇩🇯 77 erreur
Somali military forces were strong on the ground
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@@ibrahimidris2992 waaxay nio
If they were strong why Ethiopia defeated them
They are not defeated by Ethiopia
Thank to Soviet Union , and Cuba troops deployment
So weird seeing what looks like 1942 American roundels on MiG-21s...
Some of the air forces were clearly inspired by American air services. In one video, a viewer asked why North Vietnamese MiGs had American insignia 😁
It's okay
82ND AIRBORNE
At 2:50...is that an arresting hook??
It is. But it's not for carrier landings. It's just for emergency landings on airfields, such as if you loose your hydraulics and wires can catch you once you run out of runway.
@@showtime112
82ND AIRBORNE
Outstanding...
Classic video.
Thanks for the comment!
That war is not ethiopian and Somalia. Western countries used to use ethiopian and somilian nations. The war was between the USA and Russia they foolish us.
Again, now the same thing Egypt back to somilian.
Mig-21 vs Mig-21 when?
You mean in this war? They didn't actually confront although Ethiopia did purchase MiG-21s and started using them.
Ethiopia is a strange country. While most of it's Emperors pretend to go back to King Solomon, very few of them actually had an heir of their body. Most were replaced by coups by other hopefuls. It expanded onto other ethnicities and religions in the 19th century, usually by a local strongman who made a deal with some nearby Europeans for modern weapons, then took the throne. As a result, it spent most of its history fighting against some insurrection or other (often multiple ones at the same time). Perhaps like no other country, it is a 'spear-won' territory, with surprisingly little integration, and a lot of ethnic conflict, including frequent genocides (though definition of that can be blurry, mass murder is what it's about).
Ogaden is just the most egregious example - the people there are overwhelmingly Somali Muslims who were eager to join Somalia. But the loss of this, barely governable territory, would have been an unacceptable blow to Ethiopia's prestige.
In fact, if you read the publically available 1963 speech by Somalia in Addis Abbaba (OAU founding meeting), harsh words were exchanged regarding Ogaden. (Somalia also had a tiff with northern Kenya, where so called Shifta uprising, Somali pastoralists, also wanted to join Somalia).
Is this AI generated ?
It's not.
hero😎
Why hello RUclips with the same pfp as me
Hello Phantom Dude! I guess we found it in the same place 😁
First time hearing about this dog fight
It's a pretty unknown war. I'm trying to correct that.
In 1977 Ogaden region was 98.9% populated by ethnic Somalis.
It looks like a stories to video game/animated images and videos .
Long live Somalia 🇸🇴
Where is the Cubans ?
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🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴👍👍🇸🇴🇸🇴💪💪 1977
🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴
The border between Somalis and Ethiopia is not recognized by any one it’s called provisional border
Because European colonies submitted to minilik request and Somalis never accepted such border
Mohamed siyad bare was born I gode now Ethiopia they call
This is fake border 60 percent of Somali territory still occupied illegally
The Somali Air Force wasn’t really that good the Soviets equipped us with good planes but were really not trained for a dogfight at all as we didn’t have the funds to maintain the air force but our army were really trained n disciplined especially the artillery corps n Commandos
War between baggers and Somalia army 1977 Somalia taking over 89% war zones and destroyed baggers army
Bail out Maverick, lol.
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Rwar gear? A.I.M 9? Buddy...
The missile itself won't trigger RWR, of course . But if your radar is on, and especially if you lock the opponent up to get ranging information, that sure will trigger it.
@@showtime112 No... Rwar. Who the hell pronouces like Rwar
Its R.W.R and Aim 9
@@spyous7884 A-10s Over Kosovo: The Victory Of Airpower Over a Fielded Army, page 224. Quote 'That is affirmative. Raw is up, chaff, flare and pod is on....... The radar warning reciever (RWR, pronounced raw)...' End quote.The book was written by A-10 pilots who fought in Allied Force. So I guess, pilots do.
As for AIM-9. it's an acronym so it can be pronounced both ways.
Isn't A True Story When I Tell You The Truth My Friend But Don't Listen To Some People's Words If You Want Your Health I Swear By The Name Of Allah My Friend Somalia Is Lion Of Africa But Right Now Somalia Isn't A Power 👁️👁️ We See War Somalia And Ethiopia
What are you on, dude? :)
You funny
YOU ARE NOT A LION, YOU ARE A DOG! THE LION IS ETHIOPIA! CAUSE WE FUCKED YOU( You tried to take a chance while we were in civil war)
No more war, we need peace in the horn 🙏
Vector of somalia
This is fake information and misleading. So we Somali will Report it to RUclips kuyaaca somaliyey hala Report gareeyo and dislike the video
One interesting thing about autocratic, Third World countries. Viewers from such countries NEVER admit that their forces can lose, even at the tactical level. Our airplane shot down? Impossible! That could never happen, it's a lie! Our government told us otherwise and our government never lies! But OK, maybe you will grow up someday.
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ETHIOPIA IS NOT EASY 19 77 SOMALIA BUT 1978 ETHIOPIA finished 😅😅😅😅😅
Ethiopian were good at airforce 1977 Ogaden war but Somali forces were better artillery and Somali soldiers were upper hand on the ground and we defeated Ethiopian troops and liberated the whole Ogaden region within 7 weeks we were controlled the Ogaden for 8 months till Soviet aided Ethiopia and we lost the war with Soviet Union forces not weak Ethiopia
Somalia was superior on the ground and conquered most of ogaden 🇸🇴💪🏾
Initially, yes.
Cry babies 😂 Your biggest flex as a Somali is losing a war to Ethiopia 😭
@@showtime112 until Ussr and Cuban intervention
@@BringbackImperialEthiopia you couldn't fight Somali so you cried for communist blok to help lol
@@Isbatooraha oh really yall literally invaded Ethiopia during our weakest point and backstabbed us in Civil War on every corner of Ethiopia economic and oil crises and famine but keep in mind Somalis never had the balls to do anything this large and was bowing and kissing emperor and then mengistu until the Civil War and still got annilated lol do you even have any clue why sovit helped ethiopia to begin with Ethiopia government was literally fighting on every corner of Ethiopia the army was stretched from Eritrea to Ogadean 70% of the army was fighting in northern fighting against Eritrea tigray oromo afar somali region amhara many more and Ethiopia was surrounded by hostile states fighting from sudan to Egypt to somalia all supporting all the rebels in Ethiopia including the the west fyi the only reason somalia even survived for a second was sovit refused Ethiopia to push further in somalia because of the us and Ethiopian civil war tell me what happened in 1982 right after 1977 when ONLY 10k Ethiopians invaded Somalia and completely destroyed fifty thousand Somalis outnumbered and occupied central Somalia with very easy until sayid Barre declared state of emergency and begged the us for guns and signed peace treaty leaving claims to ogaden like a cowerd 🤣unlike yall we didn't run away we walked out of Somalia making your leader vow his head with only 10k Ethiopians and imagine if Ethiopia invaded during emperor halie Selassie or before the civil war if only 10k Ethiopians invasion force shaked the the somali government 🤣
Ethiopia should be ashamed of themselves, how on earth a country never colonized and with ashiatic features fight with black somalis for years??? That's beyond me.
What ☠️
Somalis have always been stronger than Ethiopians, conquering them in the 1500s, the only thing that keeps Ethiopia safe is 3 things, they have a large population, they are christian (so white people will always come and save them from somalis like in 1977, 1940s, 1800s, 1500s and so on), and they have a lot of mountains
@@fh511 That's myth, how on earth can somalia defeat Abyssinia??? They're mentioned in koran and bible when somalis are hunters and gatherers. JUST HOW!!!
@@rexcavanaugh1615Firstly Ethiopians and Somalis are both Cushitic and Afro-Asiatic races, Secondly, Somalis were very successful against Ethiopians in multiple wars and battles for example, battle of Shimbra Kure where 12,000 Somalis easily defeated 220,000+ Ethiopians in combat. In the Ogaden War of 1977, Somalis defeated Ethiopians decisively in all battles, however Ethiopia called the USSR and Cuba to defend it, and they sent over 1B in weapons and the largest military airlift in history, causing Somalia to lose.
And you need to remember Somalia is a dry desert country with a small population compared to Ethiopia, a green country with 10x as many people. Yet Somalis keep winning against Ethiopians who are always saved by Westerners. In the Battle of Shimbra Kure, there were as many Ethiopian troops in that one battle as the total population of Somalia, yet history will tell that these Ethiopians lost.
The sky fighting was beter ethiopians but fighting on the land was beter somalian, conculation Warso come and to bush back somali army
If it wasn't the Soviets Union, the mighty Ethiopian army couldn't stop somalia. But though somalia later retreated due to international pressure and luck of support from the USA. They made Eritrea and tigers to advance and captured a large territory that they couldn't capture for almost 30yrs of liberation against Ethiopia dictator regime. If it wasn't the 77 war. Eritrea wouldn't have gained independent today, therefor somalia won the war if we made Eritrea gained it's independent and tigers later became the rulers against the dominant Amhara that ruled for more than 100 century !!! 😂
We did
@EthiotendoMapping no
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Lies. Somalia over run the Ethiopia Army in short time. Sovient union, Cuba and North Korea joined the warto help Eerhiopia.
Sources, arguments...? Or I suppose you think you don't need any of those, coming from a totalitarian Third World nation.
Sidaan u malaynaayo nin ithopian ah baa sameeyay vidiogaan waa been maladiisa
You should think less. You are not very good at it 🤣
Somalia 🇸🇴 is a lion 🦁 Ethiopia 🇪🇹 is a cat 🙀 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
yes we see who’s cats and who is lion kkkk
Somalia we on the rise from the dast now turkey is envolved training somalia national army and we get barakdar tp2 drone frome turkey we will get it back ogadenia nfd kenya and djabouti greater somalia thats what we looking for check it out ( turksom) training academy and gorgor army in sparta turkey you will see how somalia is rebeilding its army
Somalia cant even get itself back together. Get over it you lost and you wont get the ogaden. Just focus on improving your country
I guess some people don’t ever learn from their mistakes 🥲 Good Luck though 🤣
You don’t even control what you have let alone Ethiopian land. Now Somaliland becomes independent and Some of the Somali clan want to be part of Ethiopia 🇪🇹.
@@emilioalvarez8010keep making yourself happy sleep well