I Built This EXTREME Car TUNING SYSTEM In The Early 2000’s…Now It’s Broken
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Let’s go back in time and see how we actually setup and tuned our cars in the pioneer days of ECM tuning. This setup was state of the art in 2005 and the envy of many. Imagine going back twenty years and having this advancement. It also gets repaired in this richly packed video. Enjoy!!!
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Wow man talk about the tech you had in the car for the early 0000's ! My car in 2023 has less tech😂, you were definitely ahead of the times. Very cool build. Will you be doing any videos on tuning with dsm link? I have link installed in my 2g and havent got far in depth with tuning with it yet!
I am a bit of a tech head for sure. A lot of my career was staying on top of leading edge and integrating it. The tuning scene was no different for me.
I do want to do a tuning video. I am waiting to have one of my projects that need it done from scratch to make it a real life experience for people to see.
@@SlippingTime awesome! I very much look forward to this. I am also a Canadian dsmer from calgary.
Wow, just wow! Your mechanical and electrical prowess seem to know no bounds. I've just recently started watching your vids because I'm trying to get a dsm back on the road and I've learned alot from you. Also, I've loved the Lotus Esprit ever since I watched "If Looks could Kill" back in 91. Can't wait to see yours completely finished. Keep doing what it is you do my man.
@@Dsmdude4g63 thanks so much for the kind words and motivation to keep on doing videos. There will be more coming!
@@SlippingTime yes sir you're very welcome and thanks so much for responding so soon because obviously you're a busy man. Just please keep your content flowing. I've already learned so much from you and I will be applying it to my dsm build for sure. It's a 94 Talon tsi with only 74k but it's been neglected and robbed of the drivetrain( except driveshaft, rear differential and axles, plus it has a mint interior) and front end components (which I've already sourced and replaced). Clear title and a great no-rust platform to start with though. And for only $400. Your vids keep me motivated so keep doing what you do. Lol
@@Dsmdude4g63 I am sad such a low mileage one had a bit of parting out. Thanks for saving it and planning to make it whole again. It will be a great car when you finish it up.
totally cool to see this old tech still in use, I remember back then I wanted to build a carputer to have some tunes and stuff, back before the massive storage and streaming we have now on phones
The guys at the track back then that had camera phones for video ran their battery down in probably a half hour or so. They would use my inverter to charge their phones between runs. Funny and fun times.
Sweet thanks for posting this classic
You are welcome. Happy you enjoyed seeing it.
Taking me back to keydiver chips and palm pilot loggers..
Welcome back!
You reminded me I should have grabbed my Palm Pilot logger out of my storage to show in the video. It’s almost a museum piece now.
WOW the MAF Translator. I was running that beofre DSM Link and then used it when I sent my original DSMLink for the upgrade to V2. Playing with the translator at the track back in the day. Brings back memories.
Same path I took with it. I just never switched to speed density once I got V3 link.
Yeah I switched to SD as soon as I got a chance with V3@@SlippingTime
What a cool time warp that was. Thanks for sharing. There's lots of things I forgot about that came bubbling up out of the memory ether. Should have hit play on the stereo to see what song came up.
Well RUclips copyright protection wouldn’t allow me to hit play, but I am sure it was some vintage hard rock of the time.
Excellent!
If I’ve seen this back in 2005 it would blow my mind :-) very well done 👍 sir. Cams sound is 👌 😊
It was a part of some really cool times back then. Thank you for the kind comments.
Seeing this car like this in 2023 blows my mind. Amazing timeless machine!
That's a great setup. Wow, that car is so MINT.
Thank you. It has lived quite a journey with me.
This is an amazing setup! Such a clean install, too!!
Thanks for sharing!
Fortunately now you coukd redo tbe sub setup with something like a 6.5" or 8" sub and a mini amp.
Im guessing youre 53-ish?
I was 13 when this car came out. I loved it back then. My friend wirked at a Nissan/Eagle dealership in 1990-1992. We used to stop by to check out the Talons and 300ZX TTs.
And thank you for sharing your story as well. I remember the 300ZX TT’s in the showroom then as well. They were a bit more money for a young man at the time, plus once I test drove the AWD I was “hooked” so to speak. I drove it pretty hard on the test drive. Also probably because I was driving a no traction fox body prior to trading it off on the Talon.
Very cool to see this! I've been on a Megasquirt MS2 standalone with my car since 2009, but I'm in the process of retro-fitting back to an ECMLink v3. I'm also about to do a cam swap from some extremely mild Comp 101200 (FP2) to GSC S2's which are a 274/274 duration and have a lot more lift. That would probably be a pretty good cam choice for your car as well.
I will probably go with GSC’s or Kelford cams around the 272 mark. Or of course if I found a good set of HKS’s I would put them in too. Depends what I guy finds out there. I will miss the 288’s for all our drag racing, but don’t really do that much anymore and want to cruise the car more. I had some FP2’s for another build and ended up not using them. Sold them instead and got some kelfords.
From playing with all the ECM controllers out there, I find ECMLink the most practical for 98% of what people do with these cars. There are some more modern auto tune $tuff out there of course, but I like to play still.
@@SlippingTime HKS 272s work really well too and have that proper old-school factor. The GSC and Kelford stuff gets you a little more duration at .050 and a little more lift.
The Megasquirt I'm using is way outdated, so going back to ECMLink will probably be an ugprade in many ways. If I wanted to spend a ton of money, I'd probably go Haltech Elite 1500 or Link G4X because they can run e-throttle and that would be nice to have.
@@CaptainTonus the Haltech’s are a nice piece for sure, but as you said it is relatively expensive for what extra you gain.
Cool video, I still have the old TMO chip in my 1991 and using HKS VPC/GCC for tuning. Maybe time to update to dsmlink? 😂
That is awesome. I remember those well. I still have a TMO chip or two in my stock.
might be the cleanest DSM Ever
It’s my baby for sure. I bought it new in 1990 with the intent to keep it looking that way.
I can't remember, do you have a video showcasing the mods on the car? Looked like a FP3065 or 3052? I'd love to see one if you haven't done one yet!
I can certainly do that - great idea! Good eye on the Turbo. It is a 3065. The car is as good as any NABR car of the time. As bullet proof as possible given the time it was built. People might like to see what was the top shelf at that time. I really need to get a driving video out as well on it.
@@SlippingTime NABR was awesome back in the day, Natter, Ricefed,.all the rest. I miss those days! Love to see a fellow Canadian doing this, I used to spend a bunch of time in Regina and the 'toon hanging out with the old dsmers, Kon, Tyler, Blake. Fun times!
@@Heaviathur some us still haven’t been able to let go of the curse. 😀
This is the KITT of the DSM world HAHA!!
lol
That is hilarious! You're right!
I've only seen white/silver lettering on the sideskirts for the 1990. 1991 had the black. Did you change that? Also, where are your front speaker grills in the door?
The side skirt lettering was not consistent back then, but that is factory from 90 with the black form the day I bought it new. Back then I would say almost all red Talons for 90 had black decals on the side skirts.
I had the mid stereo (no amp) when I bought it where there is no door speakers put in. The wiring is there though. My aftermarket setup does have door speakers with tweeters in the dash (crossovers used). To keep the no speaker look plus incognito I just have a seamless fabric in front of them.
@@SlippingTime maybe the lettering was an early or late year thing? I had a red 90 back in the day that was a very early build date and it had the white/silver.
What is the proper offset for aftermarket wheels 17X8" for that body style? I have a 1990 and want to put on 245/40/17's if possible. If I need to go coil overs to make the clearance, let me know. I plan to work on the suspension to get the handling much better. Do you have any suspension build type video's/tutorials? That would be great, love you channel! Thanks
From my experience the ideal wheel for a 1g is 17x8 with a +40 offset using a 225/45 tire. Anything wider and you run a risk of rubbing unless you roll the venders. With the stock suspension arms you can get away with about a 1-1.25” drop which I personally think looks the best on the 1g’s.
I haven’t done a specific video on suspension, but will keep a not of doing one the next time I setup another 1g.
@@SlippingTime Thanks for the reply, can you not get a greater offset pushing the wheels further to the inboard part of the car in an attempt to not allow the tires to rub on the outside of the fenders? What suspension components would you suggest to help this out? I just don't think 225's are wide enough for a 450+ whp street car...thoughts?
@@mikefields1873 I believe the trailing arm will rub rub in that case. You can maybe get away with 235, but I think 245 will rub for sure unless you roll the fender. With AWD and good tires 225’s are good to about 5-600. Ask me how know. 😁
@@SlippingTime Okay so this gets into another topic I've been wanting to research. 20yrs ago street tires were, um, meh! Now we have some pretty awesome compounds available. My goal is to have a really nice handling, braking and fast strait line car 450-500whp I'm good. Restore the car nicely. Suspension and aftermarket components for my 1990 are difficult to find other than coil overs. I can't find aftermarket sway bars, bushings or hardly anything...
Do you have any experience with tunerpro rt and ostrich emulator?
Wow that dug something out of my memory banks. The only tuner pro exposure I had was years ago when someone had it in a Buick I think. If you have/are using it we would love to hear your experience with us.
Man I hope my 1990 Eclipse can clean up this well.. It needs a full restore.. Still runs though! And it's bone stock. You don't restore cars for people do you??
This one has been preserved since I had it new, but I have restored cars as you probably know. The blue Talon as the most extreme makeover. I have been known to help out with other people’s cars.