I was looking at the Genius bindings and you confirmed my worries. With the hook stuck in the net. Got the standed one. Plus... The nidecker Don't fit all boots.. Some work better then others. Take your boot to the shop if you're looking at them. There is a video with a guy explaining it if you look.. Toe caps don't fit all boots. And tread on the boots make it harder to get in and out .
Hey. Great points, thanks. You went with the standard Step Ons or the standard/reflex genesis? True - Supermatics may be less compatible if you’re at either extreme of the size range too. I’m lucky in that I’m bang in the middle of the range for size L - so my Burton, DC, 32 and Vans boots all fit well. If you’re towards the upper limit, you may need to size up, or try them on first as you say. Takes a little tweaking of the straps etc too when you first get them. Once you’re dialled in, they’re pretty sweet.
@snowboardingdays I got the standed step in.. The new 2025 step in binding is a new shape also...the forward lean like the cartel. The supermatic problem. It is the toe box shape. As the toe strap is in a set position. When you set up the strap, the bottom ridge on the front ... has more pressure than the Ridge on the top off the toe strap. Pushing your boot down . Which digs your boot tread into the foot bed and makes it hard to get out The video shows him straping a boot in, and the problems..on 2 boots. And 1 shaped boot that works. It just saves people buying another boot to fit those bindings And the misinformation people and the marketing machine...that any boot will fit. Search nidecker supermatic problems. Cheers
Seems like the hammock highback is not always a good idea. I bought a pair of Genesis X Reflex size L in 2017 and it was impossible to center my size 13 boots. I had to write multiple emails to Burton to make them admit (and realise) that there was a problem. They then sent me a pair of Malavita highbacks to make the binding work with my boots. In the end I prefer my old Cartels 2011...
Yep, these days I'm edging more and more towards the "less parts = less things that can break" camp. Ultimately, my Cartels and Rome Katanas are way more reliable and I barely ride my Genesis Reflex these days. I wouldn't be surprised if it starts to be phased out of Burton's lineup. I'm yet to have a response from them about the issues with the Step On Genesis though 🤔
A friend of mine had exactly the same issue -- a crack in that plastic piece. However, to Burton's credit, I must say, it was promptly replaced under the warranty.
I had the feeling I wouldn't be the only one. Sadly mine broke at the top of a peak (after hiking for an hour to get there). I did a makeshift superglue/tape fix, which I was later informed voided the warrant 😢 Hope your buddy is enjoying the new pair and has better luck 🤞🏻
@@snowboardingdays Yep, the speed with which Burton replied and sent the replacement was also kind of an indicator. ;-) The new bit (whole highback) is ok so far, but we shall see in a season or two how it goes. I must say, even though my System Pro by SLab are faaaar less techy, I'm quite happy with them and with the fact that I have zero issues riding with my trousers over the boots.
Tbh they don’t affect the riding that much. I don’t ride hard or anything but I think I just used it for day without the hammock and wasn’t that much difference. Credit to Burton they did eventually fix it for me. But it’s not like a strap broke and the binding is unusable- but yeah the extra cost is not worth it. Especially as there’s always a chance you can snap it off.
Returned mine after 2-days for similar reasons. Went back to the original EST version.
Good call. Did you have the same issues?
I was looking at the Genius bindings and you confirmed my worries. With the hook stuck in the net.
Got the standed one.
Plus...
The nidecker Don't fit all boots..
Some work better then others.
Take your boot to the shop if you're looking at them.
There is a video with a guy explaining it if you look..
Toe caps don't fit all boots.
And tread on the boots make it harder to get in and out .
Hey. Great points, thanks.
You went with the standard Step Ons or the standard/reflex genesis?
True - Supermatics may be less compatible if you’re at either extreme of the size range too. I’m lucky in that I’m bang in the middle of the range for size L - so my Burton, DC, 32 and Vans boots all fit well. If you’re towards the upper limit, you may need to size up, or try them on first as you say. Takes a little tweaking of the straps etc too when you first get them. Once you’re dialled in, they’re pretty sweet.
@snowboardingdays
I got the standed step in..
The new 2025 step in binding is a new shape also...the forward lean like the cartel.
The supermatic problem.
It is the toe box shape.
As the toe strap is in a set position.
When you set up the strap, the bottom ridge on the front ... has more pressure than the Ridge on the top off the toe strap.
Pushing your boot down .
Which digs your boot tread into the foot bed and makes it hard to get out
The video shows him straping a boot in, and the problems..on 2 boots.
And 1 shaped boot that works.
It just saves people buying another boot to fit those bindings
And the misinformation people and the marketing machine...that any boot will fit.
Search nidecker supermatic problems.
Cheers
Plus, Supermatic is kind quick-entry-slow-exist system. ;-)
Seems like the hammock highback is not always a good idea. I bought a pair of Genesis X Reflex size L in 2017 and it was impossible to center my size 13 boots. I had to write multiple emails to Burton to make them admit (and realise) that there was a problem. They then sent me a pair of Malavita highbacks to make the binding work with my boots. In the end I prefer my old Cartels 2011...
Yep, these days I'm edging more and more towards the "less parts = less things that can break" camp. Ultimately, my Cartels and Rome Katanas are way more reliable and I barely ride my Genesis Reflex these days. I wouldn't be surprised if it starts to be phased out of Burton's lineup. I'm yet to have a response from them about the issues with the Step On Genesis though 🤔
A friend of mine had exactly the same issue -- a crack in that plastic piece. However, to Burton's credit, I must say, it was promptly replaced under the warranty.
I had the feeling I wouldn't be the only one. Sadly mine broke at the top of a peak (after hiking for an hour to get there). I did a makeshift superglue/tape fix, which I was later informed voided the warrant 😢
Hope your buddy is enjoying the new pair and has better luck 🤞🏻
@@snowboardingdays Yep, the speed with which Burton replied and sent the replacement was also kind of an indicator. ;-) The new bit (whole highback) is ok so far, but we shall see in a season or two how it goes.
I must say, even though my System Pro by SLab are faaaar less techy, I'm quite happy with them and with the fact that I have zero issues riding with my trousers over the boots.
@@timeflex Nice. Haven't ridden those myself. Are they more like a traditional rear entry binding?
@@snowboardingdays Yep, the good-old-tested-by-time system. Same as GNU Freedom (or Psych).
Tbh they don’t affect the riding that much. I don’t ride hard or anything but I think I just used it for day without the hammock and wasn’t that much difference. Credit to Burton they did eventually fix it for me. But it’s not like a strap broke and the binding is unusable- but yeah the extra cost is not worth it. Especially as there’s always a chance you can snap it off.
Do you think the same issues will arise with the new step on Genesis EST version? Would you still stick with the Reflex\X Reflex?
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