Excellent content! Super interesting! But please drop the annoying and unnecessary glitch effect. Would love to see you re-do this video without glitches because the content really deserves re-watching.
I always thought the slight downpitch of the 2020 chime made it sound "aged", like a fine wine or seeing an old friend. Given how long the Mac chime has been around, it made sense to me.
I love the Apple chime, and it's not that I'm familiar with it to begin with. Where I live (Greece), Apple products, besides the iPhone, were never all that popular up until the recent years - especially with Apple Silicon. I've managed to source some old iMac G3s, and I can say the chime they came with was amazing back then and it's amazing now. The funny part is, when you start up the computer and hear the chime, it DOES renew the OS, because each time a silicon Mac reboots or does a cold boot, it repairs the core operating system from any corrupted files. So it does really signify renewal. Other than that, the newer M systems use so little power when sleeping or being idle, it really doesn't make any sense to cold-boot them. So you won't be hearing them too often.
Love the content, hate the video glitches. For someone who clearly understands a person’s sensitivity to sound influences, you clearly don’t grasp the issues of visual distractions. An occasional glitch might help your video lean toward a techno vibe, but the constant, irregular distortions makes one start anticipating when the next one is coming, and the next one, etc., completely taking one’s attention far away from your relaxing message. Great information, bad presentation. So bad that I couldn’t pay attention to the end. Please repost without the glitches. Thanks.
Years ago back with early versions of Mac OS X when you first set up your computer or installed the OS there would be this rather cute jingle, it was iconic and sadly Apple no longer does this.
An IBM was started by sticking your hand into darkness, switching a loud thwack, and lots of loud square wave beeping. Mac startup was gentile, like a nod to a friend. It knew what you wanted. The Mac computer case and speaker driver quality of the oldies affected the sound experience. Great speakers were not common. A commanding FULL sound from this little box was surprising.
Thanks! That's actually a Mixed Signals original that we made and used in several video essays, but who knows maybe it'll form the basis of a real track or be released as is in some form in the new year - stay tuned!
Instead of the constant distracting glitching, how about a 70's/80's BBC informational programming style? A soft, warm glow around objects and text to compliment the solid block graphic style.
While I do like the sound, I disabled it many, many years ago on both my desktop and especially my laptop via 3rd party software. For the laptop, I felt it was an annoyance to others in a quiet setting. And then there are times that I'm intentionally restarting the computer multiple times for various reasons. And that's really why I looked for a way to disable it with 3rd party software. Somewhere along the line Apple added a setting to do this. So I haven't heard the current one till now, or maybe only once, even though I upgraded both my desktop and laptop this year. It was cool, however, to hear about the history of it.
I would like to note the old Mac startup sound (the one after the tritone) chiff element was not from a pan flute, it came from a sound preset on the Korg Wavestation named Tambotack, and it was more a xylophone/marimba instrument.
Fair enough, I haven't heard the original preset, but Reekes in his interviews describes it as a pan flute sound and I'd probably argue it sounds more like an airy attack and not a click-y one like you'd get from a marimba for instance
8:19 The further pitch down might have been to make sure it sounded okay and not too harsh, even on the small, and relatively tinny, speakers of the mac Mini, which I am pretty sure have gotten even smaller on the 2024 mac Mini.
I forget which OS (early OS X) but that startup chord blew both 4.5s on my AR bookshelf speakers. In an update, Apple lowered the output level of the external speaker port during startup. Since then, no matter what volume I have my externals set to, the startup sound is easier on the ears. Also, I was told once that Jim Reeks' keyboard chord was replaced for a short time by a guitar slap of the same chord played by a famous jazz musician. I've never been able to confirm it, so it seems pretty unlikely.
@@kaitlyn__L I found it on a YT video called "All Macintosh Startup Sounds 1980-2022" at 0:50. A commenter said it was Stanley Jordon. From his Wikipedia page: "Jordan made the startup sound for the Macintosh computer models the Power Macintosh 6100, Power Macintosh 7100, and Power Macintosh 8100." I actually had a 6100, but it's been so long since I heard it. That's the one. You're right, the Twentieth Anniversary Mac had a special one, just not the one I was thinking of. Thanks for your help.
@@RetNemmoc555 excellent 👍 I knew early Power Macs had a special one too, but I thought that was the “first synth one” the video showed. Clearly these things got a little bit jumbled in the 13-15 years since I read and binged everything I could on it haha.
In the 90s, I remember reading that Apple repair engineers could diagnose faults by listing to the startup sound. Maybe parts of the chord would be missing? I don't know. Perhaps it was a myth. Does anyone no more?
I know its more of a tune and only applied to one version of MacOS, but I'd love to know more about the welcome music to Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. My first laptop was an iBook G4, which I got when I was 13, and shipped with Mac OS X 10.3, which was good, but 10.4 was really where Mac OS X began to flex on Microsoft hard. When 10.4 came out, and the agonizingly slow DVD to HDD install completed, I watched my computer reboot with hope and anticipation. I only expected to see the login screen and begin trying new features. When all of the sudden, this intro video plays, with a soundtrack that did not have to go so hard. But man, did it get me pumped. I was already hyped up about my new operating system, but it somehow doubled my hype.
I love these kinds of videos - they're super informative on simple things you don't really give much thought to. My only query would be you said the current start up sound - or at least an iteration of it was decided by Steve Jobs to be 'The' start up sound. But Power Mac's from way earlier had this tone - so I'm not 100% sure that this statement is accurate.
Honestly, I think the Windows XP login sound is way MORE iconic than those three, considering it's literally the sound equivalent of "Bliss"; Windows XP's wallpaper that is known to be the most seen image on earth.
please don't use that god awful distortion effect on footage, it doesn't make it 'analog' or 'vintage' it makes me want to smash the screen with a hammer, because it looks like the GPU failing. it's the same feeling as when motion designers imitate video buffering or choppy playback. it's infuriating, just because you can, doesn't mean you should. the video was great though.
And just because you can use a comma doesn't mean you should do that, either. 😉 But I agree with you on this fake graphic glitch! Time and a place, but why would anyone use that in a documentary except in a reenactment for it? UGHH!
"Why is the Mac startup sound so successful," wonders the author. "What is the Mac startup sound," I wonder. I, who's never heard the Mac startup sound.
6:06 *facepalm* Seems those "studies" forgot about the simple explination: traditional bias. You know WHY trumpets invoke happiness? Because of the scenarios they're used in and that usage did NOT nessicarily originate with mood in mind. For parades, it could be cause they need an instrument, like a trumpet, loud enough to cut through crowd noise. For sad movie scenes; there is no "root appropiate instrument" since audio in movies, as a medium, was a recent invention in terms of human history. That "sad violin" can also be calming, happy, romantic, etc. depending on the medium, scenario, or melody being played.
There was at least one variation that was not mentioned. The one at 7 seconds in this video. I always referred to it as the "Tau" sound. It sounds like a plucked string instrument. There's also one at 4 seconds in the video which is like an orchestra that I think was left out. ruclips.net/video/By1Jb13QYb8/видео.html
I never liked the startup sound. Particularly when I would start my computer at stupid o'clock in the morning, and potentially wake my neighbours. I didn't always remember to have headphones plugged in. I disabled it through the terminal.
Am I the only one who thinks the Netflix ident sound is utter rubbish? Esp when compared to HBO’s or virtually any broadcast network? Or even the Filmrise ident?
How crazy is this?! Heard the Beatles song playing about two days ago on the radio and they played right till the end and I heard that chord. Said to myself “Wow, that sounds like the Apple sound! I know Steve was a Beatles fan“ And now this video shows up in my timeline. WTF!
I almost think they've gone too loose with the latest iteration. Like a "guh" sound towards the end of a fart. Very specific and very niche description but it just doesn't work for me.
Depends on where you’re from. Most common pronunciation in the US sounds like tamber. But if you’re from a French influenced area, it’s going to be as he pronounces it as that’s the French pronunciation.
I remember back in the 2k's people would have their mac hooked up to a massive speaker system and the bootup bong would shake the whole house.
“The audience is listening” lol
@@ReidDesigns- THUD: The audience is now deaf....
Excellent content! Super interesting!
But please drop the annoying and unnecessary glitch effect. Would love to see you re-do this video without glitches because the content
really deserves re-watching.
I always thought the slight downpitch of the 2020 chime made it sound "aged", like a fine wine or seeing an old friend. Given how long the Mac chime has been around, it made sense to me.
Well, I call that hitting the hammer straight on head!
I really like this interpretation!
If you a IT or a tech geek with multiple new Mac’s, once you turn all of them on, it sounds like heaven!
I’m old enough to remember all the Apple startup sounds you played here
Algorithm sent me here! Very educative about the classic startup sounds.
(Just not a fan of the glitches. Jitter's enough for the retro film feel. 😁)
wasn't expecting you to get so deep into sound design theory, needless to say though I'm very pleased. great video
I love the Apple chime, and it's not that I'm familiar with it to begin with. Where I live (Greece), Apple products, besides the iPhone, were never all that popular up until the recent years - especially with Apple Silicon. I've managed to source some old iMac G3s, and I can say the chime they came with was amazing back then and it's amazing now.
The funny part is, when you start up the computer and hear the chime, it DOES renew the OS, because each time a silicon Mac reboots or does a cold boot, it repairs the core operating system from any corrupted files. So it does really signify renewal.
Other than that, the newer M systems use so little power when sleeping or being idle, it really doesn't make any sense to cold-boot them. So you won't be hearing them too often.
Love the content, hate the video glitches. For someone who clearly understands a person’s sensitivity to sound influences, you clearly don’t grasp the issues of visual distractions. An occasional glitch might help your video lean toward a techno vibe, but the constant, irregular distortions makes one start anticipating when the next one is coming, and the next one, etc., completely taking one’s attention far away from your relaxing message. Great information, bad presentation. So bad that I couldn’t pay attention to the end. Please repost without the glitches. Thanks.
Why are there glitch effects and a shakes on parts of the video?
Because we’re cool and retro
@@arbitersofsound it's too much and makes my eyes feel bad.
@@arbitersofsound: No, that's not either one, it's just fake and annoying.
@@HelloKittyFanMan Right? With all due respect.
@@arbitersofsoundstop it.
I love the video, but the slight jitter to text and images on screen is really distracting. Your live shots are the only things not shaking.
Neither one of these was the original Mac startup sound. The original one is a simple slightly long squarish beep.
+1 on doing a re-upload after a re-edit to remove the glitch video effect.
You missed the "doink doink" from Law & Order.
I never thought of that sound as "doink doink" but now, that's how I'll always think of it lmao
It's more of a "GONG GONG".
What is with the glitch VFX? This is a great video. Leave that out.
Years ago back with early versions of Mac OS X when you first set up your computer or installed the OS there would be this rather cute jingle, it was iconic and sadly Apple no longer does this.
I love that Pixar even used it with WALL-E. Yes I know Jobs & Pixar, but it was a cool nod.
Dude. Algorithm brought me here BUT the 'glitch' effect makes me want to leave. Your video is 100% perfection. Leave out the 'glitch' effect.
about to say the same. really distracting.
Yes, it adds nothing to the video
what glitch effect
It didnt distract me so much before I saw the comments. It just felt unnecessary and out of place for the video. Would be better without it for sure.
@@Tobby1923it starts at 1:44
I watched half of this and didn’t notice the glitch until I read the comments 😂
The II series startup tone was great. Makes me miss my old IIsi.
We're all here to witness this go to 100k, really pleasant explorative video!
Thank you! Here's hoping 🤞
This should have 12,000,000 views by now. Amazing video.
Thanks I really enjoyed this
An IBM was started by sticking your hand into darkness, switching a loud thwack, and lots of loud square wave beeping. Mac startup was gentile, like a nod to a friend. It knew what you wanted. The Mac computer case and speaker driver quality of the oldies affected the sound experience. Great speakers were not common. A commanding FULL sound from this little box was surprising.
Cool video, thanks. Happy Christmas!
Great video, but what’s the glitch thing all about? Not sure it really communicates anything worthwhile, just a bit of a distraction.
Such a nice video! Well explained and organized :)
Really interesting video, thanks for making this. What was the song you had playing in the background? Perfectly captured the mood of the story.
Thanks! That's actually a Mixed Signals original that we made and used in several video essays, but who knows maybe it'll form the basis of a real track or be released as is in some form in the new year - stay tuned!
Please re-upload this without the weird glitch effects. Totally unnecessary and this is so well done otherwise!
Great video! You just got a new subscriber!
tutudutu tu tu vs BONGGGGG is truly the greatest battle
Instead of the constant distracting glitching, how about a 70's/80's BBC informational programming style? A soft, warm glow around objects and text to compliment the solid block graphic style.
Very good idea! Thanks for the feedback and for not being super angry about it :D
Loved this!
Such a great video!
Thanks!
Great video, you deserve way more subs man! ❤
While I do like the sound, I disabled it many, many years ago on both my desktop and especially my laptop via 3rd party software. For the laptop, I felt it was an annoyance to others in a quiet setting. And then there are times that I'm intentionally restarting the computer multiple times for various reasons. And that's really why I looked for a way to disable it with 3rd party software.
Somewhere along the line Apple added a setting to do this. So I haven't heard the current one till now, or maybe only once, even though I upgraded both my desktop and laptop this year. It was cool, however, to hear about the history of it.
Great video! Real glad the algorithm is pushing new and good content
I would like to note the old Mac startup sound (the one after the tritone) chiff element was not from a pan flute, it came from a sound preset on the Korg Wavestation named Tambotack, and it was more a xylophone/marimba instrument.
Fair enough, I haven't heard the original preset, but Reekes in his interviews describes it as a pan flute sound and I'd probably argue it sounds more like an airy attack and not a click-y one like you'd get from a marimba for instance
8:19 The further pitch down might have been to make sure it sounded okay and not too harsh, even on the small, and relatively tinny, speakers of the mac Mini, which I am pretty sure have gotten even smaller on the 2024 mac Mini.
I forget which OS (early OS X) but that startup chord blew both 4.5s on my AR bookshelf speakers. In an update, Apple lowered the output level of the external speaker port during startup. Since then, no matter what volume I have my externals set to, the startup sound is easier on the ears.
Also, I was told once that Jim Reeks' keyboard chord was replaced for a short time by a guitar slap of the same chord played by a famous jazz musician. I've never been able to confirm it, so it seems pretty unlikely.
There is a guitar slap version from, if memory serves, the Twentieth Anniversary Mac startup. It was very briefly used, but then replaced.
@@kaitlyn__L Ah, thanks, that sounds familiar.
@@kaitlyn__L I found it on a YT video called "All Macintosh Startup Sounds 1980-2022" at 0:50. A commenter said it was Stanley Jordon. From his Wikipedia page: "Jordan made the startup sound for the Macintosh computer models the Power Macintosh 6100, Power Macintosh 7100, and Power Macintosh 8100."
I actually had a 6100, but it's been so long since I heard it. That's the one. You're right, the Twentieth Anniversary Mac had a special one, just not the one I was thinking of. Thanks for your help.
@@RetNemmoc555 excellent 👍
I knew early Power Macs had a special one too, but I thought that was the “first synth one” the video showed. Clearly these things got a little bit jumbled in the 13-15 years since I read and binged everything I could on it haha.
SEVERELY UNDERRATED
this is a future 100k+ view video, very well made
0:26 I don't remember that sound, I think it was pretty short lived. I do remember when the sound was just a square wave.
It was the startup sound on the II series, and then a variation of it was on the LC series.
No way I got an Apple advert that did the chime when I clicked this video
Riggs was grooving on Michael Bolton.
In the 90s, I remember reading that Apple repair engineers could diagnose faults by listing to the startup sound. Maybe parts of the chord would be missing? I don't know. Perhaps it was a myth. Does anyone no more?
Thankfully my 2014 makes this sound and is not one of the newer models with the chime removed
I know its more of a tune and only applied to one version of MacOS, but I'd love to know more about the welcome music to Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger.
My first laptop was an iBook G4, which I got when I was 13, and shipped with Mac OS X 10.3, which was good, but 10.4 was really where Mac OS X began to flex on Microsoft hard. When 10.4 came out, and the agonizingly slow DVD to HDD install completed, I watched my computer reboot with hope and anticipation. I only expected to see the login screen and begin trying new features. When all of the sudden, this intro video plays, with a soundtrack that did not have to go so hard. But man, did it get me pumped. I was already hyped up about my new operating system, but it somehow doubled my hype.
I love these kinds of videos - they're super informative on simple things you don't really give much thought to. My only query would be you said the current start up sound - or at least an iteration of it was decided by Steve Jobs to be 'The' start up sound. But Power Mac's from way earlier had this tone - so I'm not 100% sure that this statement is accurate.
Very good content. Thank you!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Honestly, I think the Windows XP login sound is way MORE iconic than those three, considering it's literally the sound equivalent of "Bliss"; Windows XP's wallpaper that is known to be the most seen image on earth.
It is a nice sound, isn't it?
And I am happy they kept it for so long. It really makes opening your macbook just feel right.
REMEMBER ME WHEN YOU GO VIRAL
please don't use that god awful distortion effect on footage, it doesn't make it 'analog' or 'vintage' it makes me want to smash the screen with a hammer, because it looks like the GPU failing. it's the same feeling as when motion designers imitate video buffering or choppy playback. it's infuriating, just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
the video was great though.
Thanks for the feedback :D
We need to up our animation game....
And just because you can use a comma doesn't mean you should do that, either. 😉 But I agree with you on this fake graphic glitch! Time and a place, but why would anyone use that in a documentary except in a reenactment for it? UGHH!
@@HelloKittyFanMan The problem is that he's sometimes using commas where semicolons belong.
@@arbitersofsoundThe solution is to not animate.
@@TokyoXtreme: That's one too, yeah. But I was referring to the comma right after "can."
Please stop the glitch effect. That and the constant shaking are not helping your videos. Its ok to be simple direct and elegant.
I loved my Quadra... But the FIRST MAC sound was a BOOOOOP!
"Why is the Mac startup sound so successful," wonders the author.
"What is the Mac startup sound," I wonder. I, who's never heard the Mac startup sound.
why only 800 likes by 13k clicks? you desereved more!
The Mac startup sound has always reminded me of the start of one of Minecraft's background tracks. Can't find which one though.
Subwoofer lullaby
moog city 2?
Everytime i hear that sound, my brain immediately starts singing "Dark fantasy" CAN WE GET MUCH HIYAHH
Hahah I don’t have that association but you’re right it’s a similar vibe 😄
0:26 yes, that’s what the computers in primary school sounded like 😂
1:39 nah it’s out of tune 5th it’s not quite a tri tone at all and the whole Diablos I musica thing is a myth
Me at 3AM to turn on my PowerMac G4 with my hands firmly over the speaker grills and it still boings at full volume
Excuse me! I could swear it was Andy Herzfeld who designed the original Macintosh startup-sound!
i always thought it's in F major bc it stands for "Future" haha
Haha wouldn’t have been surprised if Apple tried to sell us that at some point 😂
Miss my PM G4 start up sound.
Lol did anyone else just get an Apple Mac ad that had the startup sound in it?
You know cyan has a final cord like that in there logo for myst.
6:06 *facepalm* Seems those "studies" forgot about the simple explination: traditional bias.
You know WHY trumpets invoke happiness? Because of the scenarios they're used in and that usage did NOT nessicarily originate with mood in mind. For parades, it could be cause they need an instrument, like a trumpet, loud enough to cut through crowd noise. For sad movie scenes; there is no "root appropiate instrument" since audio in movies, as a medium, was a recent invention in terms of human history.
That "sad violin" can also be calming, happy, romantic, etc. depending on the medium, scenario, or melody being played.
3:15 thats my childhood.
It's the first note of Laughter In The Rain song.
you forgot about the original apple "beeep" from the OG macintosh
and then there's the apple ]['s "clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick"
Patents are not trademarks. The Mac startup sound was registered as a trademark.
So sad that the THX sound didn’t make it, but PH did.
Ah man I might make a video on that cause it’s so damn good and complex, and in my head I was saving it for that, that’s the only reason pretty much!
@ Looking forward to it! Thx! 😊
There was at least one variation that was not mentioned. The one at 7 seconds in this video. I always referred to it as the "Tau" sound. It sounds like a plucked string instrument. There's also one at 4 seconds in the video which is like an orchestra that I think was left out.
ruclips.net/video/By1Jb13QYb8/видео.html
So why didn't they just think of and use this deeper sound from the beginning?
Glitches makes it unwatchable
Sounds remarkably similar to the Windows 3.0 start up sound.
It's got nothing on the playstation 1 startup sound. And in terms of computers, the Acorn Archimedes had the nicest one.
thank you youtube algorithm
4:39 Heh. This won't affect me. It's just some notes.
5:02 _RESOLVE THE DAMN CHORD ALREADY!!!_
Could've gone without the reference to that disgusting website early on
i want the startsound also on my iphone
I never liked the startup sound. Particularly when I would start my computer at stupid o'clock in the morning, and potentially wake my neighbours. I didn't always remember to have headphones plugged in. I disabled it through the terminal.
Nothing compares to… You,.. apple
never heard this one. heard every single other one though
Before this shit blows up gang
What about it? What's the completion of your thought?
Before this video blows up gang
What about it? What's the completion of your thought?
what was the point of that glitch effect, entirely unnecessary and annoying
Playing with emotions like DDLC sayo-nara...
Am I the only one who thinks the Netflix ident sound is utter rubbish? Esp when compared to HBO’s or virtually any broadcast network? Or even the Filmrise ident?
How crazy is this?! Heard the Beatles song playing about two days ago on the radio and they played right till the end and I heard that chord. Said to myself “Wow, that sounds like the Apple sound! I know Steve was a Beatles fan“ And now this video shows up in my timeline. WTF!
Surpriiise!
Never heard intel one
It was not polyphonic in 1984 and nobody who writes system software enjoys hearing any version of it.
i hate video essays
Lol never heard this sound before
Why's the triton start up sound sounds terrible to you? Sounds fine to me.
Sorry, I prefer the classic Mac startup sound.
I almost think they've gone too loose with the latest iteration. Like a "guh" sound towards the end of a fart. Very specific and very niche description but it just doesn't work for me.
is that really how timbre is pronounced?
Depends on where you’re from. Most common pronunciation in the US sounds like tamber. But if you’re from a French influenced area, it’s going to be as he pronounces it as that’s the French pronunciation.