New ''Battlefield 2025'' Leak Reveals Possible Factions..👀
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- A recent leak has given us a clue as to what factions will be in the next Battlefield game, but how will this affect the potential for a class system?
Insider Gaming Article - insider-gaming.com/battlefiel...
00:00 Intro
00:53 New Factions
02:47 Multi-national
04:43 Class System?
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Its so hard to be excited for the next battlefield game when they never learn from their mistakes. I just want a battlefield game that releases complete with all features and little bugs. I don't want the game to release and then wait 2 years for it to be somewhat decent.
This time they will, if not on launch, 3 years later
Dude I was just commenting the SAME thing on another video. DICE has shown us time and time again that they do not learn from mistakes at all. We simply want a complete game on day one. We do not want some new fancy modes that will not get any damn support (Firestorm, Hazard Zone, Portal). Just put a damn game out with the base modes. Full fleshed out maps, guns, vehicles etc. And also a damn roadmap that is also not abandoned as soon as sales do not hit expectations.
With all its faults 2042 could have been a banger of a game but so much time was spent fixing the game all these years.
@brohameddabruhphet8481 i have 1k hours on it. It was pretty good.
@jcaashby3 this isn't the same DICE that made the better games. they left and created their own studio
I have some hope since the guy who fixed BF4 is the MP director for next BF and some older heads came back
I really do not want "characters" with personality or a background. Just give me nameless grunts for specific countries.
This!
Battlefield should be Battlefield, not a hero shooter.
I really hope both factions stand out from each other. And aren't clones from each other like it was in 2042. And needs good voice lines how it was in BF3 and BF4.
And non of them stupid one liners after the game has finished
Specialists are not acceptable in any way, shape or form.
Don't sell out, Ghost.
Ghost trying to be positive and not negative is being a sell out?
@@Haxx601 advocating attention for a game that havent release specially with how it launched 2042... Yes sell out
@@pipe1860 So you’re saying a battlefield RUclipsr can’t be excited for the next battlefield game because the previous game was bad?
@pipe1860 after bf3 every launch has been bad apart from maybe hardline.
@@aesemon5392 bf1 launch was good
Remember: no pre-order
They have to bring back a proper sever browser for the normal/full xp game modes. I hate the lack of a server browser and persistent servers in 2042.
Never again. They will never release total control over what we do.
its a joke!!! how did they have these basic functions in previous BF titles and then just drop the ball!
Facts they didn't have a server browser because it would should how many players are playing
@@mtippett80 I'm betting its because of consoles. They need a dumbed-down system that auto-joins you to cover all the young kids and such who play on consoles.
Also all the sbmm crap and things they pull to optimize engagement and micro transactions. They want to be in control of your experience.
Wrong about cosmetics if you ask me. You can have the same soldiers with the same silhouette. But let us give that soldier, different pouches, holsters, helmets, knee pads, gloves, backpacks, glasses, armbands, wristbands, shoes. Let us do the same on guns. Different camouflage, Rubber bands, wire, marks on the guns, leaves, icons, stickers, colors. For both options not one piece cosmetics. But you can change and combine all these different items with one and other. So more like micro cosmetics that you can build on your character and guns. And after that you can also do full-on packs (like it is now) and when bought a pack you can pick the small things from that pack and put it into your own build look.
would love some Insurgency customization lookalike, cosmetics are faction sided, and huge choices within each factions, but can't equip other faction stuff, no overlap.
like in nato team if we could choose our flag and change backpack, helmets, tactical clothes, VN bins, etc like you said.
And PMC side let us with some more guerrilla styled outfits such as jean trousers, lin shirts, keffieh, civil sunglasses and shit like that, (and like Graves style in MW2 2022)
@@LesDoudousPSBattlefield V had something like that, certain cosmetic locked onto certain factions
Battlefield V did cosmetic customization great tbh, all cosmetics are faction locked and were great.
@@rosaria8384 the only upgrade I would do for BFV would be narrow it down where some cosmetics were also classed locked.
So you could make whatever combos you wanted but there would be specific and certain items that only x class can have, to further streamlining the whole ' hey, that's a recon' or ' Yo, hit that engineer first ' without requiring the enemy to be shooting at you, for you to figure out what class you are dealing with, etc.
Then there is all the different NATO armor, air and sea vehicles and their cosmetic customizations for them as well, without going off the rails, anime, bright florescent colors, etc lol.
Yea, yea, I know units tend to paint whatever they want on their units vehicle...and some have drawn anime chicks...but you know what I mean...lol
@@AceWolf2009 so much yes!
Also on all the other replies as well! We need faction-specific things back. Voices, cosmetics and even weapons
I bet that “BATTLEFIELD” is gonna be the actual name lol
That's what we thought for 2042
@@fatshpee7174 I suppose but I feel like they had the 2042 locked in as the title before the “original name” trend really got steam, but I could see it going either way
I’m actually surprised they haven’t done that already. We’re definitely going to get a BATTLEFIELD X at some point
I’ve been telling people, legit a battlefield game set in the 1980s. USSR Vs USA. The Cold War weapons and locations, 80s pop culture, no overpowered weapons like infrared and night vision, like it’s such an obvious and easy thing to do and it’s annoys me so much they just don’t do ot
Like how call of duty cw did (much i thinking they should do bf cw
I mean ...we did have NV and even thermals during that period of time. They just weren't as clear as they are now.
But, yes,a what if scenario where the cold war went hot, a Red Dawn type of scenario happens, where mainland U.S. gets invaded.
Could have maps all over the U.S. from deep forest and mountain maps in Alaska to swamps of the deep south to dense urban maps on any of the coasts or just any big city...and even flat wide open farm lands, perfect for heavy armor engagements and CAS missions.
I have always loved the Cold War aesthetic
I just want bf3 remasterd
I would not mind if they SLOWED character movement down. The soldiers move so damn fast!!
And a movement modifier depending on type of weapon
Double to both comments here. I am tired of this twitch game style. I am 37, I am legally blind, my eyesight and reactions suck....I don't need to be moving around on a battlefield map like I just took a ton of speed.
Also, I agree, weapons, either primary weapons only have weight or both primary and secondary weapons have weight to them that slows down the mobility of your class soldier. Obviously, don't slow them down TOO much...or else not many people would want to play support...or at the very least, not run with a belt fed lmg...'or heavy sniper rifle for recons '
@@AceWolf2009 totally agree I’m tired of this cod movement over and over again
Someone should tell dice that some games have a thing called story mode or campaign.
I want bf3 battle chat intensity, miss how visceral the marines talked during engagements
I know right. The voice over was perfect.
I'm pretty sure class-wise monetization wise they're going the BF5 route with some tweaks. I think it's save to say that we'll get classes back and the skins are restricted to classes unlike BF5. It's the same as BF2042 specialist restriction so there's no need in giving every class every skin. This would make the enemy more readable while EA still can sell skins
W comment bro.
Hope so,V honestly had the best balance between cosmetics to sell/unlock, classic class system, and specialization.
Would be cool if they brought back base building from 5 to whatever this one will be called. I mean, modern militaries still construct bases and dig holes, etc.
You could change player skins in BF4...
You could change the camouflage, that's it.
Advanced warfare level of customisation is possible
I think if they wanted to avoid having named characters in the next game, which was clearly unpopular in 2042, they could just go the route of Halo Infinite, World War 3, or Insurgency Sandstorm where the character is generic but you can customize all the pieces of equipment. I personally feel that would be more popular and monetizeable for BF fans than the CoD route of characters with preset skins. They sort of did this in 2042 with being able to wear an outfit and headgear, but they could make this really modular and then be able sell individual pieces in the store as well.
Yes and also keep the cosmetics class and/very least faction specific. So everyone isn't going to be running around looking the same ' allies and enemies ' nor have super special skins that let you play it on any map ' like those characters from V, German hero playing on Iwo Jima comes to mind '
So long as the mastery skin isn't red so you flick to an ally instead of an actually enemy in busy spots.
I am going to be massively disappointed if they do the skins as content route again.
Yeah, skins isn't content. Weapons, maps, and gadgets are content.
That’s the way it is today. Battle passes and skins for characters that you have to play as. No more army men fights. Just special soldiers with 10-20 dollar skins for them
I hope that they will lock skins and characters to factions and classes. I am tired of every class and faction to have copy paste skins
Agreed. There should be limitations on specialists or characters and which faction they are aligned to.
They could get everyone on board with a simple 30 second teaser: black screen, Fortunate Son begins playing as a squad of hueys drops marines into a hot LZ in the middle of the jungle.
PvE Co-op survival could be interest on next Battlefield game
Wooo more cosmetics yay (ea please stop)
None of the publishers will stop this. It's a massive money mill for them, you'd have as much luck telling a whale to stop.
@@aesemon5392 only too true sadly
cant believe we are going to have to wait 18 months for the next game after they release the 2 rehashed maps
It's been a long time since Vietnam battlefield was released. It would be cool with different player skin customization, like if you could change your player to rambo style etc. Vietnam war had many countries involved not just US and Vietnam but also Soviets, Chinese, Australians.
Its been 20 years I remember playing that ish !!!
@@MrJRamos-ei2xv They could borrow some of the ideas from Rising Storm 2 Vietnam like player customization, artillery support, air support like napalm and team commander. The game also doesn't have to be "historically accurate" it could be something like Battlefield 1 which wasn't historically accurate either of WWI.
I guess NATO is very 'diverse and inclusive".
If you're designing a game on how best to sell skins, you've already failed.
Alliances make sense from the point of view of content, customisation and politics. I would still like some way of playing as individual factions as well, maybe through a Portal type feature (choose the vehicles, weapons, skins and voicelines per team). I just find it a bit more cohesive and the different languages give me that Battlefield immersion👌
I’m praying they take the route bf1 did where different maps will have different factions.
Sounds like the next Battlefield will finally have a modern setting. YESSSSIR!
WW3 has one of the best Customization in a Modern Warfare setting.
u can play as US, RU, Canada, France, Germany and so on.. Bundeswehr KSK looks so cool in this game.
all based on real uniforms and so on.
i want this in BF2025.
I actually feel a bit sorry for you, Ghost. The next two years you have to clinge to leaks and rumors to be able to churn out Battlefield content 😅
He has another channel for his RTS plays.
What I would like to see from DICE is to make a game that is not trend chasing and just do what the series does best and is known for. No more Portal, Hazard ZOne or Firestorm. Focus on destruction, sandbox conquest modes, Rush etc.
They have already shown they are incapable of doing anything new and supporting it. We shall see what they put out but I am not holding my breath. People will say ohh they learned from so and so and will not make the same mistakes. Yeah sure!
I would honestly prefer US,RU,CN and maybe some other nations joining the fight. You would have theaters like u have in BF1 where US fights with India for example, or where CN fights with Japan and so on.
They kind of teased this PMC faction within Battlefield 2042. If you think about the seasons and events like for instance the map Spearhead when it released, the RU side was represented at least on the description level by a PMC
I would like to see Australia Defence Force to be represented in the next Battlefield game. The last time a EA represented Australia’s military was in Medal of Honor Warfighter.
BF1 had a whole story about a digger and gallipoli. Don't forget the ANZAC's from the 1 WW again.
A "politics-neutral" faction like that already exists in Battlefield lore, but knowing modern DICE/EA they will probably retcon/forget about that faction completely.
To have wasted the opportunity that PORTAL could have been makes me sad for all the future blah blah about the next battlefield. You could have saved 2042 by adding old maps every couple months until PORTAL was full of every old map and dlc. We got a “love” letter 😂 that wasn’t finished or signed. 😢
In every BF game, we had factions. But here in 2042, it's just no Pats who fight for Russia or the USA. but that's just not enough. We need more PMC's
I want a good battlefield game with a simple UI/browser that has full lobbies with actual players and not AI's looking at the floor. I was hoping for something close to Bf4 when I got Bf 2042
I'm not looking forward to them bringing back the basic 4 classes class system. I think there should be 5 classes: Assault, engineer, support, medic, recon. I also think they should bring back the monetization system BFV used however limit skins to specific classes and try to make the skins easy to distinguish as a specific class.
Agreed. Then there would be a real choice in a squad on what class you give up.
I just don't want to be stuck as a recon and being forced to use sniper rifles. I really liked playing close to mid recon in 2042. I could still ptfo and be in the mix putting down spotting devices and clearing out equipment with EMP grenades.
@@TheoriginalBMT I was hoping they would go back up to 5 player squads, up the player count to either 35vs35 or 40vs40 because they are divisible by 5(would've been too much to write in the comment). as for weapons although I'm still on the fence about it I think they should allow you to pick whatever you want, the argument can be made that players will pick a class for its gadgets instead of it weapons. if it works then it works, if not then it probably wont hurt the game too much.
Same, also 5 man squads.
Kinda like the idea of NATO vs Wagn-I mean “evil” PMC. I guess EA is a little worried WW3 might be a bit too spicy right now. If it’s anything like Advanced Warfare(setting/story wise) we could see some real cool locations.
I am expecting skins, but I would like to see more definitive styles for each class. It could be as basic as Engineers having rockets on their backs.
We just need to wait and see , at least we will have factions and classes ..
The problem with 2042, is not only there are specialists/operators that no one asked for, but in the game EVERYONE is the same operator regardless of what side you're on, and they are cringe AF. The main reason why Call of Duty Operators technically worked, is because there's different sets of operators for the Allies (your team) and the Opposing forces (the enemy team). Which makes it clear as day who you should be fighting and who's on your side.
I don't understand how that was not thought of if they were to put it in the game or if they were gonna put in specialists, instead of making them default characters that are unrelatable, why not have each specialist as a code name or Alias on the field. And each have their own ability or gadget and we can customize them however we want. But no EA and DICE wanted to sell skins because they see everyone else doing it and follow trends when they are supposed to be setting them.
I would be massively disappointed if we got specialists again. We need basic, non gimmicky classes from actual militaries fighting each other in large scale war: that's what battlefield is not a hero-shooter about "special" forces.
Do you think that certain characters and cosmetics will be designated to certain factions or is it more likely that we will have another repeat of what we got in 2042?
I think this would be a good way of doing it. Give each class a theme like they have similar kit on their back or something. Like you said old way is best but I don't expect it either. At this point even 2042 is fine for me the lights work good to tell enemies apart. Let's hope the new game is more serious with its tone and cosmetics
honestly in the end i have started to enjoy 2042 but its no where near the quality of a bf3 or 4. i hope they dont mess up the launch and if its the same type of seasonal content that live service actually more than 1 map a season would be nice. personally, i didn't mind paying for premium if it meant we got the dlc pack like we got in bf4 and 1 which were solid new maps.
I just don't understand why people don't like specialists, the gameplay is more varied and unique with them, each "class" in bf2042 doesn't need to be stuck with that role thanks to the different specialists
Could it be a primer to a future version of 2142? You had those 2 factions?
Is the NATO/PMC a prequel to BF2042 story arch?
Imagine getting excited for a AAA shooter.
Oh my god! The typhoon is coming back (a jet featured in bf2)
I feel like if they go battlefield v route that would be the best of both worlds we get customization without dealing with specialists while they can sell (good) cosmetics and (it fits the setting of the game)
I hear new stuff about BF7 and the first thing I think off, is the way they will f**k it up...
I hate it, I cant be hyped about this stuff anymore :(
I guess, "this just how it worls out sometimes" and "what a time to be alive" is really stuck in my head.
You dont need to look the same to look from a certain nation lmfao. bfv literally had nation specific skins and weapons exclusive to that nation. really not that hard to do.
What I wish is a character creator similar to that in Destiny. However what they will do most likely do is to have COD style operators that don't have a special gadget.
Im fine if they do cosmetics like BFV, although there were some questionable design choices there, considering the source material was WWII.
As long as it is faction specific and makes sense, I'd be fine with cosmetics. I wanted realistic, grounded cosmetics, not the bile we got in 2042.
Cause they wanna go down the live seevice route where maps are free and monitise the game through cosmetics.
Not because it's good for the player but because it makes more money.
Then, the content drops you get from these updates are very light, to say the least since if you are not paying up front for it, there's no inherent standard to go by as it's free as apose to paying x amount for an expansion where you have a set standard of what to expect.
Honestly, if they do go ahead with NATO, they could still do it how earlier battlefields did with their factions. Each map has specific NATO forces against the PMC. Heck, even a chance for U.S. Forces to still be included on some maps, sense we are also apart of NATO.
Also, if it is NATO, they could open up for different air and armor of nations we haven't seen any of their vehicles/air/armor/sea in either a modern setting or even at all.
Not to mention, each nation would have their own camouflage patterns and even different units have their own special camouflage patterns, etc..
I would be fine if they just took BFVs approach...just keep it uniformed.
Hopefully, classes also have class locked weapons and gadgets...and ffs give us medics and supports their own classes....and not thus bastardized 'support' class we have now. O.o
Can’t wait for the pre order bundles 😅
I would like to see a mode called Sundance Hunt.
I just hope they don't have the same characters in both factions.
I wish theyd do factions futher away from the western world. Iran vs china or ussr vs ottoman empire for example
We don't need Specialists again fuck them, just bring back the Class System with BFV's monetization it's easy to do...
Wagner VS Blackwater! Would be my thing!
I like bfv's customization, whish they would just use that.
With modern gaming even if the game play is half decent it will be monetized to hell.
Allready waiting next BF 💪💪 I started from BF1.. And i hope next BF is atleast good like BF1 when it first came out.. DICE we still belive in BF 👍
Plot twist: Russia joins NATO
NATO versus BRICS
Anyone see him take out the night bird with the RAM?
actual factions or just enemy vs enemy? because 20242 had no factions. you see the same exact operators on either team. didnt know irish was russian in 2042. this is why operators and heros dont work for a war like large scale game.
Why not make more colorful factions like Black Ops 2 did?
Blue factions
European army of NATO:
-European nations, expect German grenadiers, Danish frogmen, Italian marines and Turkish infantry for example
NA NATO and Commonwealth
-USA, Canada, UK, Australia, NZ etc
Asian forces
-Japan, Taiwan, SK, Indonesia etc
Red forces
Eurasian
-Russia, Belarus, Central Asia
Chinese
-PRC, DPRK, Vietnam, Myanmar, Laos, Cuba
Militia forces
-Palestinian resistance, Afghanistan, Iran etc
We will see whether Tom is right here^^
Bring back the bf1 team. They actually knew what a battlefield game should be
Hahaha, that is not what everyone was saying after the game dropped. Had a similar story to BFV and BF2042, oh and let's not forget BF4's cluster for something like 11 months. I guarantee whatever game comes out next, within that 1st 8 months people will be saying how good BF2042 was. Why don't they just stick to what works😂
Unpopular opinion, but I hope all classes will still have access to all weapons with each having a specialized trait for certain weapon category
I share this thought as well. I liked the class system in 2042 that has variations in each class. Also hope they do not lock weapons behind classes. But knowing DICE they will do something that will not be received well at all.
I liked this. I liked playing close to mid range recon with assault or SMG.
They should actually offer a discount for preorders
I want Angel skins in the next battlefield or any specialist that represents Romania. :)
Angel does it again.
i wanna play as sundance's mom... momdance
Setting seems interesting but they need to hit it right. Instead of all those weird vehicle skins we have in 2042, they could actually just use different NATO tank models but have them feel the same, cosmetics but realistic. The PMC faction could get tricky cause you somehow need to give them tanks, air defense, aircraft etc. with it still making sense that they operate all this machinery. And please, don't use the same vehicle models for both sides again exept maybe jeeps etc. It kinda ruins the atmosphere if the US faction for some reason uses a French scout vehicle with a Soviet AA gun as air defense while the Russians do the same
@GhostGaming Do you think they should strictly adhere to 64 player combat (the standard), or do you think they could up the player count (but still be less than 128 players)?
For example, an 80 player mode?
Like many i thought that the 128p was too much but in fact it's not . I ve played BBRemastered with maps and game mode that vary btw 32 to 128 p and and the 3 devs did well all not is perfect but the game is far more enjoyable than 2042 ever was . So it's not the players
number that is the problem but the execution and the map design and both are trash in BF . And the server infrastructure in this game is trash also that's why u get shot around corners and the hit registration is garbage also . 32 players feels empty asf 80 to 100 should be good but put the infrastrucure around your game to display that amount of stuff popping exploding and shit . But don't kid yourself the next game will be worse .......
yeah I don't like that everyone is saying just go back to the basics, DICE can do some improvements over the basic system as long as they don't go overboard like they did with 2042. for instance doubling the server count was an incredibly stupid decision so much so that i dont think it was even the devs call to do so BUT i think increasing the server count by a smaller would be perfectly fine like 35vs35 40vs40.
If they bring back specialist, then it's will die
We said bfv was dices last chance but I never seen the bf community so low until 2042. Even after years bfv came to feel close to a bf game. But 2042 still doesn't feel like a bf game. So this really seems like their last chance.
I won't be excited for the next game tbh. But honestly NATO vs PMCs are quite an interesting change of pace.
Nato vs private army, means we are going to have specialists again huh... Nato will be like more organised army with factions and private army will be smth like the expendables, specialists etc?? All those operator skins EA could sell.
A PMC is fine, as long as the story is grounded and not like some evil corp like AW. And as for NATO. It would be nice to fight as squads from different countries together. Good mtx opportunity for EA also. However, they do need to also nail the feel of a cohesive realistic NATO force. Not 32 random people from random countries like we had with bf2042
On the next BF can they skip the "controller" part on PC and just implement the "Joystick" part back like in BF3? I am having a hard time adjusting the mouse sensitivity at this point, when you change the sens "on foot: mouse&keyboard/controller" you have to match them but the controller part always has that .3 after the real number, cand we just skip this BS DICE? Just implement back as it was the joystick (NOT THE FCKIN CONTROLLER on PC!).
At this point I can't even be hyped for the next Bf game anymore, they'vre disappointed us too many times already...
God I hope it's a modern shooter. Im done if its futuristic.
It will be. Pretty much confirmed
Bro 2042 not even that futuristic
Huh
Same man
@aiden8834 like bf2042 wasn't futuristic so idk what game they play
Allie Team vs Enemy Team, they cant even do a USA vs Russia.
USA vs Russia has been done to death
Now will this new Battlefield have a campaign?
Nah probably not they are coming out with a single player narrative game that’s set in the battlefield universe.
The studio behind the campaign got disbanded. Unless Motive is making the campaign now, there won’t be a campaign
@@BourbonBandit- Ya motive is working on it.
3:43 - No. Actually I want this BS to stay out of games.
Cosmetics should be like bf5
If the next battlefield has specialists, I will not buy it
they are not doing specialists next game
I'd be fine with the cosmetics if it's just uniforms of different NATO countries, no ridiculous, overly tacti-cool stuff.
33 skins to sell for each NATO specialst? Ofc EA will want that
Very nice.
Brother we don't want a stupid hero shooters even if they don't have abilities we still don't want stupid hero shooters
hey dice how bout you just give us a bf3/bf4 2.0??
I just want a modern BF Vietnam, no specialist no bugs and netcode that isn't more tangled than a plate of spaghetti.
I like the idea of Wagner vs NATO. Gives lots of opportunity for unique cosmetics, maps and weapons
I swear to god if I hear cheesy one liners from the “characters” im fucking done. EA and dice simply don’t have it anymore.