Miami Marlins - Ichiro Suzuki on all-time total hits milestone
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Miami Marlins' Ichiro Suzuki press conference after he raised his hits total in the Japanese and North American major leagues to 4,257, passing Pete Rose's record Major League Baseball total.
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Greatest fact is that 1200-plus out of 4257 were generated in Japanese pro league. Only 130 games annum. His hghest record in Japan was 210 hits while the same ICHIRO generated 262 hits in Major League... what does it mean? Japanese pro league is not a high school league nor a AAA or such, and more importantly, if ICHIRO started his carrier in the States, he might have reached 4600 or even more for now simply because Major League has more games to play.
It's cool he speaks Japanese when his English is actually pretty good.
I'd like to respect both sides. Rose played in a different era and he's a legend of his time. Ichiro is a legend of our time. Ichiro probably has the better skill level, speed, and fielding. I think it would be fair when debating who is the greatest hitter of all-time, that we respect an argument could be made for either player. I personally pick Ichiro, but I take nothing away from all the legends and greats of baseball's past.
I think it's more difficult to hit more than 4257 only Japanese league because the games are littler than MLB's and Japanese baseball level is so high!!
Japan won TWICE WBC CHANPIONSHIP!!
I'm Japanese but I disagree with you.
MLB is more competitive than Japanese pro league obviously.
The reason why Japan won twice was that Japan sent many superstars to the tournament, but America and the rest of countries as well.
Even Matt Murton said that Japanese pro league's level is in the middle of MLB and 3A.
ゆうおり 安打is hit. npb.jp/bis/history/ltb_h.html
World Class
I sincerely respect Ichiro who came to a country where he knew no one and established/is establishing a record as well all the people in the States who judge him in a fair way. Ichiro is not only a mere player but is trying hard to make the Baseball together with other great players to a great culture.
great men
The games in Japan are as high level as in MLB. Japan won twice in the World Classic, America has not. I think since Ichiro started his career in the US after the age of 27 and his best physical abilities were from between 23 - 30 years of age.The US should give Ichiro a break. Pete Rose got over 200 hits per season 10 times in 24 years, but Ichiro got the same over 200 hits in 10 seasons in JUST 10 years. This statistic may put Ichiro at the same level of skill accommodation as Pete Rose. Don't you think so ?
I like Ichiro and will take nothing from how great a hitter he is but there is absolutely no correlation between MLB and the Japanese league at all. Not trying to knock the people who play in Japan it's just not the level of competition that plays in the states. Yes, they do have some great players and those that succeeded in the WBC have succeeded in MLB but half or more of that league couldn't make it in the majors. Kaz Matsui was a star there and a scrub in MLB. Wladamir Balentin was a scrub here and broke oh's homerun record over there. Even Dice-K flamed out fast. MLB hits are MLB hits so when Ichiro ties Pete Rose for the most MLB hits, then we can talk.
With that being said, Ichiro is one of the greatest hitters to play the game.
listen there's no reason to believe Ichiro wouldn't have broken Pete Rose's record if he had been allowed to play in the US. He wouldve easily collected the 1,000 plus hits in the MLB. With that being said the Nippon leagues are not at the calibur of the MLB. Its AAA+ at best. That's just the truth. Don't bring up the WBC that's a whole other animal
+Francocaine if Sadaharu Oh hit 500 of his homeruns over here, this silly debate about Ichiro's hits would be the second time combined "professional" stats came into question.
Ichiro…batting and defense, base running, all are splendid.
And it is pleasant to watch his play. That's good enough.
+James Matthews
There is no objective answer for that. However, considering the level of the pitchers in 60's in MBL and the pitchers between 1992 to 2000 in Japan, objectively the most peolpe see the pitchers in Japan after 1992 have more skills. This is one of the ways to add as an factors to see my subjective answer. 1992 to 2000 when Ichiro was playing there was a super competitive time for Japanese pitchers. Nomo, Irabu, Ishii, Sasaki, etc.... They all eventually played in MLB and they were all up there. Nomo threw no-hitter twice in MLB. Yeah, the variety of pitches they had was sensational in MLB and to the baseball fans in the US. Again, there no way to have a direct comparison but if we remove his Japan record, besides the points I have been talking about here and my two previous comments, this another way to compare the both. Ichiro made his debut at 28 years old in the Major League.
Pete Rose
28 years old - 42 years old (1969 -1983) 2,881 hits
Ichiro Suzuki
28 years old - 42 years old (2001 - 2015) 2,935 hits
I do not mind and of course Ichiro would not mind if America does not let him have the title since it is combined record. What I mind is the America's perception that Japanese pro baseball level is AAA or high school levels in America. I wish Pete would not have said what he had said instead these are two diffrent kinds of records but Pete as the king, congratulates another king.
イチローさんはいつもインタビューの時すごく１つ１つの言葉を選びながらしゃべってるよね
その分通訳の人も単なる訳ではなく真意を伝えるのって本当に難しいと思う
I qualify these hits in japan to be counted in the MLB. In my opinion he's the hit king of all time over Pete Rose. I love Pete Rose but, there's no way of denying this accomplishment.
Even if his hits from Japan are not counted, he is still one of the greatest players of all time. The fact that reached 3,000 hits even though his rookie year was at 27 years old is simply amazing. He won an MVP, batting titles, played great defense and was a great base runner. An all time great that was truly unique
イチローおめでとう！
イチロー、やっぱ英語全部理解してるんやな。
通訳スルーして質問応えたり、通訳にツッコんだり(笑)
toshi2263civic 你知道吗
The best, period !!!
I'm proud of him to be a unique player.
His records doesn't matter not so much.
They omit Pete's 427 hits playing minor league ball for a total of 4683 "professional" hits. So tell me again why Sarahada Oh is not recognized as the HR King?
When Ichiro mentioned about guy like Jeter to beat Pete's record, he really wanted to mentioned about the personality and someone who is respected should beat the 4256 in the US. Here Ichiro did not mentioned about Rose, but he made fun of him. Rose is not respected person since he gambled, right??
なるほど。これは王さんのためにも言ってるんだな....
謙虚という言葉がぴったりの人やな…
ピート・ローズ見たかなこの会見
イチローめっちゃピートローズ皮肉ってる笑
MLB is amazing , but there are many Games
1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
ＮＰＢ 24 12 210 179 193 185 181 141 153
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
ＭＬＢ 242 208 212 262 206 224 238 213 225
just curious is the type of pitching during the time of pete same as of ichiros tie
Pete Rose made a most hit record, but was in eternal exile from the baseball world. Naturally the record should be erasion, too. I'm proude of Ichiro who has the Japanese sprit.
He has a deep ass voice lol
lol he does
If Ichiro played only in the MLB, he surely be able to beat Pete Rose's Record of 4256!! I have no doubt on that!! He could have got more than 200 hits for 15yrs straight rather than 10yrs!! Or more who knows!
おめでとう！
早く3000本が見たい
Lousy translator.
3:43 "If they recognize it I'd be happy" should be something like "It's up to everyone else to decide"
4:35 "Fans and writers will decide ... " again should be something like "It's up to everyone else to decide. I have no idea."
Cool
If Ichiro started his career in MLB, he would've got 1400+ more hits, 200+ more stolen bases, 80 more homers, 7 more gold gloves
Ichiro is twice the player that Pete Rose ever was, better hitter and better fielder simple as that. Everyone knows that if Ichiro the human played his whole career in the MLB, he would have smashed the MLB hit record due to the far greater # of AB's per season in the MLB compared to Japan and because he was better. I like how you can tell he thinks Rose is a dbag, there is a reason he is banned for life.
Ichiro has the world record of the number of hits in a first division professional baseball league. Pete has the MLB record, just that. no necessarily to compare MLB to NPB.
Well Pete does have 4683 "professional" hits. But hey, do you recognize Oh as the HR King? If not, why?
@@jamie49868 when it comes to the number of HR in a first division, Oh will be the king. (more HR than Bonds)
I know if it comes to professional hits Pete is the best.
@@araiba334 But "first division" does not equate to equality of league play. Would you say Korean BB is the equal of Japan, or that Australian BB is the equal of MLB simply because it's "first division"
Then take into account when Rose was in the minors...pre expansion, and what that means to quality of play. To somehow ignore that the minors in the early 60's was more competitive than Japan in 90's, and you are cherry picking your facts.
Ichiro is great, love his game, and a better player than Rose was, but no, Rose with 4600+ hits in professional BB is the Hit King.
@@jamie49868 (sorry if I sound offensive because of my poor English)
First of all I don't think Ichiro's record(the first division) is superior to Pete's professional record. My opinion is that it's nonsense to compare them. If someone do want to compare them and make judgement, then they should take the two player's MLB hits into account and Pete wins.
If a player gets 5000+ hits in KBO then he is the man with most first division hits in history.
@@araiba334 I understand what you are saying, but "first division" needs to be in context. First division does not mean first rate.
I'll use American soccer. First division right!!! Do you want to compare the quality of players and competition to "first division" European clubs??? Then say "it's first division" so they are equal? No way - no how, any intelligent person would not make the argument the accomplishments are similar, let alone equal.
Ichiro never faced Koufax, Seaver ,Gibson
But this record is combined thing! Most Japanese knows this. But the millions of Japanese wanted least the respect from Pete. Hey Pete, how much $ you made during the 80"s in Japan showing up in some TV ADS and many other attractions. Ichiro will make to the HF before you, man.
I chirp is a great player and he respects baseball. On the other hand, Rose disrespected baseball by using his own for gambling.
かっけぇ
ありがとうイチロー
誇りに思う。
ピートローズの態度は少し残念。祝福する余裕すらないんだろうな
世代も違うんだしどっしり構えとけばいいものを…日米通算のどうこうは周りに言わせとけばいいのに本人が言ったら本当にみっともない。イチローとローズの人格の違いが出たな。
You would think if he was here for since 2002 he would learn English. I know English isn't the easiest to learn but dang.
He can understand some questions without translation. But for a Japanese person is very hard to speak another language (not just English), because Japanese has very few sounds and English has some that don't exist in Japanese. (That's why he says "peeto roso". That's the only way someone from Japan can pronounce that name).
msolec2000 did not make sense in his comment, sense Ichiro actually did make the English sound in Pete Rose's name and then added 'o' at the end of each name.
"Kansas City in August is hotter than two rats fucking in a wool sock." -Ichiro Suzuki
イチロー自身は多分メジャーの記録だけでピートローズの記録を抜いてやろうって思ってるだろうねｗ
原理主義淫夢 現在のイチローのメジャーのヒット数が3030本。
今イチローは43歳で50歳までやりたいって言ってるから、出来てあと7年。
ここ近年のイチローのシーズンヒット数が約100本だからあと7年で100本打っても3730本で届かない。
イチローってこんなキョドってたっけ？w
Pete Rose☆☆☆☆
How does this dude not know English?