Play the i500s (Blue Dot +1/2" KBS Tour V 110 S) as a 2 hcp. Three things are undeniable... 1) They look amazing, 2) they feel like garbage, and 3) they are super forgiving on misses. Sold my 2 sets of Srixons after 2 weeks with these. The tech is real, and I'll eventually get used to the horrendous acoustics. Got the Power Spec, because at my swing speed (112 mph driver), the velocity means more height and stopping power. The gaps between the long irons takes a moment, but the short iron gaps are easy. Ping was smart with this as always because most people don't have healthy enough gaps between their long irons.
All i play is ping except for my wedges ( titleist ) and putter ( scotty ). My i500’s are the best irons ive ever owned hands down. So forgiving, go a mile and look beautiful. Best looking irons on the market!! Nice video
Tried The blueprint irons and totally agree on your assessment of the firm feel. Coming from Mizuno MP 18 SC irons I did not care for the feel I also felt like I spun the blueprints too much
I am currently doing a combo set with the i500 and Blueprint - currently i500 4-8 and Blueprint 9-PW (power spec) but I'm considering adding 6-8 or at least 8 in power spec. Great clubs both of them and I agree with all you had to say Dan.
Blueprints in the bag now for just over a week (4-PW), fantasic irons. Wouldn't consider split set with i500's, no issue with 4-iron profile in the blueprints and yardage gaps are solid... plus my OCD would drive me crazy if I had two 5-iron's.
I own the I 500 iron and love them a couple of my friends have changed from blades to the I 500 and can’t believe the difference not losing anything in looks and feel just gaining performance there worst rounds when not striking there blades was 81 / 82 now on a bad ball striking day with the I 500 77 / 78 huge differences for cat 1 golfers. Why make the game harder by using blades time to get with the modern program and we all have retro loft that ping offers
Both the I500 and Blueprint irons look outstanding to me. I just can't play consistently enough with the blades but the I500 irons may be just the ticket.
Don't forget the i500 comes in a retro loft. Get one of those testing against the blueprint or possible combo w/ retro or funk the lofts / bend the club.
I500 seems to be the better choice...flys higher with 10 yds more carry...little less in spin but with the extra hieght shouldn't be much different in stopping...nice review Dan
Completely agree with Dan about how similar the 2 clubs look, the Blueprint looks as though it is an i500 after it went on a Crossfield diet! If I remember the original reviews of the i500, the main concern was inconsistent gapping between clubs. Given how well the i500 performed in Dan's hands, Dan's idea of a combo set is a really good one. Personally my lowest iron is a 5i so I could comfortably see the 6i & 7i from i500 replacing the Blueprint 5i & 6i. However, I still would not change my i210s.
I tried the i500's and really liked them, but the price point is more than I want to pay. Might have to wait for a good used set to come up, or a price drop, or wait till they are older model and price comes down.
i500 a fantastic set of clubs, very impressed with mine. Having tried them against the i210, I found them more forgiving but this is very interesting regarding a combo set of i500 and Blueprints... Something I might consider after some tweaks to my game.
I used the old S59 irons till the start of this year and tried a number of irons including the P790, AP3 looking for replacements! I tried the i500 but found the i210 was a nicer club to hit and, for me, longer than the i500!
Little late here. I'm gaming the I500's after a short stint with the I210's. Thought about perhaps blending them but decided I need the distance help throughout the bag. May have made a poor shaft choice (Mamiya Recoil F3) with the I500's and am looking at alternatives.
i game the i500, apart from the 4 iron, which i'm not overly confident on hitting, they perform very well. 11hc player. i was fitted for both i500-p790 an ping was just a tad more consistent. great clubs
I have tried them both and could game either one. I would game the Blueprint since it's close to the same loft to what I play now. I like traditional lofts. Yeah, its cool to say I am hitting 8 iron 150yds, but 30° 8 iron is what my 7 iron is. They definitely don't feel like a typical Ping iron. Much softer
Tried the i500 and really liked them but ended up getting a second hand set of PXG's 0311 first generation just to see what the fuss was all about. Maybe slightly softer feel than the i500 I have to say with similar (very good) performance. Not feeling any need to change for sure and just not consistent enough for the blades. Had S58's back in the day and they're the sweetest clubs I've hit even against the Mizunos off that era but Im just not good enough...
Mark, Dan. Suprised you have not reviewed the Wilson Staff Model blade yet? In my opinion the blueprint and staff model are the best looking irons on the market! Would be interesting to see if there is any difference between the two in performance. Considering they would be in direct competition to each other.
I'm pretty sure they offer the ping I500 in what they call retro spec lofts. I believe the 7 iron is 32.5 degrees of loft. Maybe would have been a better comparison?
I liked the video until you said you would have (2) 5 irons in the bag. The i500 is offered in retro loft which would keep it in line with blueprints lofts, wouldn't it?
Smash factor and then ball speed was higher with i500, there's loft and shaft lenght to consider, strike probably, but is there a CT/COR limit on irons ? Could it be COR is a little better on i500?
Love the additional content! Invest in better cameras for what you are trying to achieve. Sound and visual quality for additional videos improves the content further.
In short, Ping crushed it with both of these. I think the i500 are some of the best clubs ever made. They look amazing and can suit a wide range of golfers with their various loft options. The blueprint is always going to be a tough on for ping since forged blades aren't really their thing, But I think they made the best out of the situation with those for sure.
Now a days companys are increasingly the lofts. If they increase the lofts on clubs and there is no set standards for lofts. How would you compare, head to head against 7 iron vs another companys 7 iron if the lofts are different? So if you do compare two companys irons that's the same lofts, the shaft might be different length. That'll be kinda hard to compare now.
I would disagree with Dan's Ax and many of the comments regarding the feel. I hit these side by side against the TW blades and these felt lovely and soft, some of the nicest feeling blades I've hit and I currently play MP37s. Each to his own I guess.
Gotta say i500 is the better club. 10 extra yards, almost the same spin, higher peak. So it's going further, stopping faster and I'd say is probably easier to play.
I think you missed the part where he explained that the i500 has 3.5* less loft - so it should be going farther, with less spin, which is exactly what's happening. Just because they both say 7 on the bottom doesn't mean it's a 1 to 1 comparison.
@@codelltaylor I think you missed the part where they were spinning almost the same. The lower lofted i500 was still peaking higher which means itll stop faster. You're focused on just the loft. Yet the lower lofted club is peaking higher and is within 200 rpm spin. Who cares what the loft is if you're getting better performance across the board.
#askDan Can you compare the Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 to the new taylormade Hi-toe Bigfoot? They seem to be saying the same stuff forgiving, easy out of bunkers etc., but one has a 8 and one has 15 degree of bounce.
So 30 vs 34 degrees, and @ 3yrds per degree, there should be about a 12 yrd difference. Which there was. The i500 total yrds was 179, and the Blueprint was 167. This means that the Blueprint and i500 go the same distance...
you wont see them directly compare anything to titleist irons on this channel or even mark doing reviews of anything but titleist iron on this channel.. dan will be doing all reviews of all clubs that arent titleists.. until marks contract is up .. prove me wrong mark.. test some taylor made irons or mizunos full review 20 min vid or something..... not gonna happen.. i remember when you use to tout how unbiased you were till the money came...
O my god when you review clubs please give price , are ping serious 1400 pounds for 4 to wedge blue print blades , and they are not soft 😤😤 , just came back to this today two years later and after trying out the blueprint blades I am struggling to not order a set , they are a stunning club , hope Santa 🎅 can see his way to bridge the extra price 🤭
Would like to see a Blueprint comparison with the i210, which is less of a "game improvement" iron that the i500. i210 supposedly has a much less harsher feel to them.
I understand why you would do it and why Mark does it but how many people will actually put two 6 irons or 5 irons in their bags. My guess is that is a hard sell in a fitting. What have you found?
I found it interesting but it would have been cool for you to compare a 8i i500 vs 7i BP or even 9i i500 vs 8i BP, more of your 150 yds in clubs with comparable lofts? It's tough because 7i i500 has slightly soft loft of 6i BP but 1/2" shorter club length?! So a lot of math going on. I would guess mid-to high handicappers would start to struggle with 5i i500 like they might with 4i in the BP or traditional lofts of 4i's?! So playing 4i in a 5i length is interesting, but in theory, couldn't you just order entire Blueprint set 1/2" short?? Then your 4i BP would be 2 yds further than 5i i500 but NOW you're able to hit your 4i LOL 😆 Bottom line is that blades will ALWAYS reign Supreme for working a ball the way you are needing it too. The rotational MOI of larger clubs CANNOT create same sidespin a player wants to impart at impact, and with most formerly 100 compression balls now at 105 or even 110 for high swing speeds, next to impossible for that pro to get i500s to do what they can do with blueprint?! That's my humble two cents. But then again, I asked my first teaching pro what hardest irons to learn on would be, so I had 1986 used Titleist Tour Model blades and driver and 3w were persimmon all shafted in S400s, tipped to D4 SW. And used 90 balata balls (Titleist red numbers). And I became teaching pro in 2 1/2 yrs with 8 handicap! (Got down to 0.1).
No sorry you’ve lost me, 8 iron would be nearer 7 iron blueprint loft wouldn’t it? As long as you don’t compare distance it doesn’t matter, forgiveness and feel are more important to me and other mid handicappers (12)
The very small difference in shaft length won’t effect my swing speed very much, but loft will change the complete set up of my clubs particularly the wedges.
The Blueprint looks nice, but I think the P790 still beats it for appearance. And it performs just as well, if not better. But it's really the golfers choice, since I think all the upper-end clubs will perform well, depending on the crap on the end of the club! LOL. BTW Dan. Haven't heard any of your history lessons on the course vlogs. Kinda miss that.
lol I agree with your being skeptic on most of the manufacturers claims but I have to say, it really does make a difference. I go back and forth between some old mizunos and my i200s and they really do shed some water. When I give the clubs a bath I don't even have to dry the pings after I take them out of the water.
@@MarkCrossfield When you are blessed with such a talent i would have thought putting the same swing on each shot would be an advantage. Kind regards in any case.xx
i500 Standard Loft, Black Dot, AWT Stiff Shaft...absolutely love these irons. Been gaming them for a year and a half.
Play the i500s (Blue Dot +1/2" KBS Tour V 110 S) as a 2 hcp. Three things are undeniable... 1) They look amazing, 2) they feel like garbage, and 3) they are super forgiving on misses. Sold my 2 sets of Srixons after 2 weeks with these. The tech is real, and I'll eventually get used to the horrendous acoustics. Got the Power Spec, because at my swing speed (112 mph driver), the velocity means more height and stopping power. The gaps between the long irons takes a moment, but the short iron gaps are easy. Ping was smart with this as always because most people don't have healthy enough gaps between their long irons.
All i play is ping except for my wedges ( titleist ) and putter ( scotty ). My i500’s are the best irons ive ever owned hands down. So forgiving, go a mile and look beautiful. Best looking irons on the market!! Nice video
I think I'm getting fitted for them next month, with a local Ping fitter.
Tried The blueprint irons and totally agree on your assessment of the firm feel. Coming from Mizuno MP 18 SC irons I did not care for the feel I also felt like I spun the blueprints too much
I am currently doing a combo set with the i500 and Blueprint - currently i500 4-8 and Blueprint 9-PW (power spec) but I'm considering adding 6-8 or at least 8 in power spec. Great clubs both of them and I agree with all you had to say Dan.
Blueprints in the bag now for just over a week (4-PW), fantasic irons. Wouldn't consider split set with i500's, no issue with 4-iron profile in the blueprints and yardage gaps are solid... plus my OCD would drive me crazy if I had two 5-iron's.
I recently purchased the i500's and LOVE them. I was told by our local golf pro to not even think about the Blueprint...LOL
What timing! I’m being fitted for my i500s next week after wanting to upgrade my g400s. Love them!
I own the I 500 iron and love them a couple of my friends have changed from blades to the I 500 and can’t believe the difference not losing anything in looks and feel just gaining performance there worst rounds when not striking there blades was 81 / 82 now on a bad ball striking day with the I 500 77 / 78 huge differences for cat 1 golfers. Why make the game harder by using blades time to get with the modern program and we all have retro loft that ping offers
Both the I500 and Blueprint irons look outstanding to me. I just can't play consistently enough with the blades but the I500 irons may be just the ticket.
Don't forget the i500 comes in a retro loft. Get one of those testing against the blueprint or possible combo w/ retro or funk the lofts / bend the club.
I500 seems to be the better choice...flys higher with 10 yds more carry...little less in spin but with the extra hieght shouldn't be much different in stopping...nice review Dan
Hit the Blueprint today myself, very firm feel. Not what I'm looking for in a "forged" club.
Completely agree with Dan about how similar the 2 clubs look, the Blueprint looks as though it is an i500 after it went on a Crossfield diet!
If I remember the original reviews of the i500, the main concern was inconsistent gapping between clubs. Given how well the i500 performed in Dan's hands, Dan's idea of a combo set is a really good one. Personally my lowest iron is a 5i so I could comfortably see the 6i & 7i from i500 replacing the Blueprint 5i & 6i.
However, I still would not change my i210s.
I just traded in my titleist AP3s for the i210. Waiting for them to ship from the factory. Can’t wait.
I tried the i500's and really liked them, but the price point is more than I want to pay. Might have to wait for a good used set to come up, or a price drop, or wait till they are older model and price comes down.
Have you access to Miura Baby Blades? Seems a great compare would be those vs Blueprint!! For the Golfwrx community...please!
Can we have mp 18 blade vs 919 tour? Thank you
i500 a fantastic set of clubs, very impressed with mine. Having tried them against the i210, I found them more forgiving but this is very interesting regarding a combo set of i500 and Blueprints... Something I might consider after some tweaks to my game.
i500's in the bag for a couple months now, everything I need in an iron. This video confirms it. 5-PW with a g410 3 iron crossover.
Jesper H, i have the exact same setup.
I have i500's 4-8, Blueprint 9-PW (Power Spec) and g410 2 Crossover - great clubs!
Going for a fitting after Christmas. Hoping to try i500, G410 and New cobra forged tec irons. Will see what suits best
I used the old S59 irons till the start of this year and tried a number of irons including the P790, AP3 looking for replacements! I tried the i500 but found the i210 was a nicer club to hit and, for me, longer than the i500!
Little late here. I'm gaming the I500's after a short stint with the I210's. Thought about perhaps blending them but decided I need the distance help throughout the bag. May have made a poor shaft choice (Mamiya Recoil F3) with the I500's and am looking at alternatives.
Like that... they would blend in perfectly as a combo. Cheers guys.... well done cameraman!! Xx
i game the i500, apart from the 4 iron, which i'm not overly confident on hitting, they perform very well. 11hc player. i was fitted for both i500-p790 an ping was just a tad more consistent. great clubs
I would love to have a set of i500 great looking clubs
I have tried them both and could game either one. I would game the Blueprint since it's close to the same loft to what I play now. I like traditional lofts. Yeah, its cool to say I am hitting 8 iron 150yds, but 30° 8 iron is what my 7 iron is. They definitely don't feel like a typical Ping iron. Much softer
Tried the i500 and really liked them but ended up getting a second hand set of PXG's 0311 first generation just to see what the fuss was all about. Maybe slightly softer feel than the i500 I have to say with similar (very good) performance. Not feeling any need to change for sure and just not consistent enough for the blades. Had S58's back in the day and they're the sweetest clubs I've hit even against the Mizunos off that era but Im just not good enough...
Definately would have a look at the i500
Another great video Dan! Keep up the good work!
Love your swing Dan, Great comparison.
Mark, Dan. Suprised you have not reviewed the Wilson Staff Model blade yet? In my opinion the blueprint and staff model are the best looking irons on the market! Would be interesting to see if there is any difference between the two in performance. Considering they would be in direct competition to each other.
ping are good at what ping are but probably last choice for blades for a lot of people?
We need a head to head with the i210-blueprint 👍
I'm pretty sure they offer the ping I500 in what they call retro spec lofts. I believe the 7 iron is 32.5 degrees of loft. Maybe would have been a better comparison?
Love a bit of Uncle Dan. Cameo from Mince too!
Lovely lovely... Maybe you guys should do a Ping heritage review... where you would look at everything from Eye2 to today!!!
I believe you can also retro spec the i500's. I wonder if you put some kind of dampener inside to get rid of the tiney sound.
I liked the video until you said you would have (2) 5 irons in the bag. The i500 is offered in retro loft which would keep it in line with blueprints lofts, wouldn't it?
Smash factor and then ball speed was higher with i500, there's loft and shaft lenght to consider, strike probably, but is there a CT/COR limit on irons ? Could it be COR is a little better on i500?
The i500 is hollow body that's where its getting most of the ball speed (using face flex) besides what you said about loft and length.
Love the additional content! Invest in better cameras for what you are trying to achieve. Sound and visual quality for additional videos improves the content further.
Im using the i500 and enjoying it shirt irons spin like anything
Mmmm maybe some on course testing Dan! If you love 'em get 'em... I think they'd look great on you.
In short, Ping crushed it with both of these. I think the i500 are some of the best clubs ever made. They look amazing and can suit a wide range of golfers with their various loft options. The blueprint is always going to be a tough on for ping since forged blades aren't really their thing, But I think they made the best out of the situation with those for sure.
Now a days companys are increasingly the lofts. If they increase the lofts on clubs and there is no set standards for lofts. How would you compare, head to head against 7 iron vs another companys 7 iron if the lofts are different? So if you do compare two companys irons that's the same lofts, the shaft might be different length. That'll be kinda hard to compare now.
I would disagree with Dan's Ax and many of the comments regarding the feel. I hit these side by side against the TW blades and these felt lovely and soft, some of the nicest feeling blades I've hit and I currently play MP37s. Each to his own I guess.
Think there is some brand pre-conceptions influencing tbh 🤣
dan this is awesome. but you could make the specs similar by having the i500 in the retro spec from ping. i did this and they are awesome.
Set down by the ball, the Blueprints are one of the greatest looking irons I've ever seen. The feel leaves much to be desired, though.
Gotta say i500 is the better club. 10 extra yards, almost the same spin, higher peak. So it's going further, stopping faster and I'd say is probably easier to play.
I think you missed the part where he explained that the i500 has 3.5* less loft - so it should be going farther, with less spin, which is exactly what's happening. Just because they both say 7 on the bottom doesn't mean it's a 1 to 1 comparison.
@@codelltaylor I think you missed the part where they were spinning almost the same. The lower lofted i500 was still peaking higher which means itll stop faster.
You're focused on just the loft. Yet the lower lofted club is peaking higher and is within 200 rpm spin. Who cares what the loft is if you're getting better performance across the board.
Been a fan for a long time. Would be nice to improve the audio, video, and editing.
Will ping bring out blueprint specialty wedges, to replace glides?
Got i500 7 and 6 iron with power specs to replace my 6 and 5 iron. Love it for results but cant beat the feel of a true blade, can you?
i would love to see a review of a moonwood 8
#askDan Can you compare the Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 to the new taylormade Hi-toe Bigfoot? They seem to be saying the same stuff forgiving, easy out of bunkers etc., but one has a 8 and one has 15 degree of bounce.
Stick the BP in the bag Dan!
But will we see any new irons going in the bag soon Dan?
Does combo'in clubs cost more? I presume so!!!
So 30 vs 34 degrees, and @ 3yrds per degree, there should be about a 12 yrd difference. Which there was. The i500 total yrds was 179, and the Blueprint was 167. This means that the Blueprint and i500 go the same distance...
@dan: local machine shop would be willing to cut in ½ to see the innards, if you don't mind "losing" a demo club.
i asked on twitter for a mizuno st190 vs titleist ts3 review and dan said he would do it. still waiting for it
you wont see them directly compare anything to titleist irons on this channel or even mark doing reviews of anything but titleist iron on this channel.. dan will be doing all reviews of all clubs that arent titleists.. until marks contract is up .. prove me wrong mark.. test some taylor made irons or mizunos full review 20 min vid or something..... not gonna happen.. i remember when you use to tout how unbiased you were till the money came...
You can retro loft the i500 irons.
Nice review
My i500's concaved!!!! They've been sent back to Ping theyve said theyve never seen anything like it before.
What about descent angle?!
Careful, Dan. Nuclear launch codes are kept inside those irons.
O my god when you review clubs please give price , are ping serious 1400 pounds for 4 to wedge blue print blades , and they are not soft 😤😤 , just came back to this today two years later and after trying out the blueprint blades I am struggling to not order a set , they are a stunning club , hope Santa 🎅 can see his way to bridge the extra price 🤭
Get up Dan is back. Nice work Danny boy. When is Lesters Pro shop Vlog back. #Masterofthemarsbar
Taylor made have Speed Foam, Ping have Speed Greace 🤘
Would like to see a Blueprint comparison with the i210, which is less of a "game improvement" iron that the i500. i210 supposedly has a much less harsher feel to them.
I understand why you would do it and why Mark does it but how many people will actually put two 6 irons or 5 irons in their bags. My guess is that is a hard sell in a fitting. What have you found?
Defo
The blueprint & I210 would be a better mix. The I500 would be more of a replacement for a 3 iron.
I didn't understand how Dan would combo the two. Which model for the long irons, and which for the short irons?
Love all the videos except comparisons. It seems like the same video on repeat!
I found it interesting but it would have been cool for you to compare a 8i i500 vs 7i BP or even 9i i500 vs 8i BP, more of your 150 yds in clubs with comparable lofts? It's tough because 7i i500 has slightly soft loft of 6i BP but 1/2" shorter club length?! So a lot of math going on. I would guess mid-to high handicappers would start to struggle with 5i i500 like they might with 4i in the BP or traditional lofts of 4i's?! So playing 4i in a 5i length is interesting, but in theory, couldn't you just order entire Blueprint set 1/2" short?? Then your 4i BP would be 2 yds further than 5i i500 but NOW you're able to hit your 4i LOL 😆 Bottom line is that blades will ALWAYS reign Supreme for working a ball the way you are needing it too. The rotational MOI of larger clubs CANNOT create same sidespin a player wants to impart at impact, and with most formerly 100 compression balls now at 105 or even 110 for high swing speeds, next to impossible for that pro to get i500s to do what they can do with blueprint?! That's my humble two cents. But then again, I asked my first teaching pro what hardest irons to learn on would be, so I had 1986 used Titleist Tour Model blades and driver and 3w were persimmon all shafted in S400s, tipped to D4 SW. And used 90 balata balls (Titleist red numbers). And I became teaching pro in 2 1/2 yrs with 8 handicap! (Got down to 0.1).
so why didnt you test the 8 iron i500 against the 7 iron blueprint?
Same difference if you think about it.
No sorry you’ve lost me, 8 iron would be nearer 7 iron blueprint loft wouldn’t it? As long as you don’t compare distance it doesn’t matter, forgiveness and feel are more important to me and other mid handicappers (12)
MrBlueleon so what about shaft length? You would need to cut the 7I down no?
The very small difference in shaft length won’t effect my swing speed very much, but loft will change the complete set up of my clubs particularly the wedges.
They used 8620 steel for durability... Less butter
The Blueprint looks nice, but I think the P790 still beats it for appearance. And it performs just as well, if not better. But it's really the golfers choice, since I think all the upper-end clubs will perform well, depending on the crap on the end of the club! LOL. BTW Dan. Haven't heard any of your history lessons on the course vlogs. Kinda miss that.
Shall we test the hydrophobic finish? Of course not. It must be true.
lol I agree with your being skeptic on most of the manufacturers claims but I have to say, it really does make a difference. I go back and forth between some old mizunos and my i200s and they really do shed some water. When I give the clubs a bath I don't even have to dry the pings after I take them out of the water.
Brah, it’s August why are you inside?
Them blueprints don’t sound too buttery
Lesttaaaaaaaaa
I keep hearing you all say Game Improvement, only people who should even touch these or the i210 are people who shoot in the high 70’s or lower
Pings just sound terrible imo...
Did u loft and lie these? As the i500 could have 25 degrees with the shitty manufacturers tolerances
that was a waste of 8 and a half minutes.
No offence but why are you blokes so obsessed with this blending mularkey . Find a SET that suits and swing each iron the same . Why complicate ?
Swing each one the same?
@@MarkCrossfield When you are blessed with such a talent i would have thought putting the same swing on each shot would be an advantage. Kind regards in any case.xx
Quentin MAURICE no because of loft. Maybe watch my driver and iron swing video. 👍👍