I accidentally managed to figure out, how to watch RUclips and Netflix on my Peloton, but never bothered since. Still loving my Peloton 18 months later! Thx for these vids!
Bought the Peloton+ and was happy until I tried the Velocore at a family members house 3 weeks after receiving my Peloton. Needless to say, I returned my Peloton Bike + and ordered the Velocore. Peloton is for people who want to ride with their friends and say they have a Peloton. Velocore is for anyone looking for a workout
These videos are bad ass for someone looking for a bike. I love my peloton and nothing (in my opinion) can beat it. But it’s cool as hell to see what other bikes have to offer and how you can really choose just whats best for you
@@Learnwithtravis it changed my life man. I went from someone who hated HATED cardio with to someone who gets up at 4 AM everyday to get a 45min session in! Sometimes 60! These bikes are changing fitness. Keep up the good work with these videos brother!
I love indoor cycling bikes but the one downside is how little of the body is engaged. (Why I have fallen in love with rowing) The Velocore does improve on this concern!
Another good video, Travis. Thanks for all of your help. I watched pretty much all of your vids before making my decision and my final 2 were the Peloton and the Velocore (NordicTrack's record of poor customer service eliminated their offering). Your vids were the most informative and really helped clarify the decision points. I still agonized over the decision though. I really liked the features of the Velocore but for the same reasons you discuss in the video I went with the Peloton. While being able to use something like Zwift would have been great, ultimately Peloton is the Champ of this market because of the quality and amount of content. Reducing the price of the bike $400 also made a difference. But I don't think users would go wrong either way buying one or the other.
Thank you so much Walt! I really appreciate the kind words and love hearing my videos helped out! I think you are right that most people would be happy with either option as they are both very nice. So glad to hear your choice is working out well for you!
Travis, appreciate your videos! I am a regular cyclist, road riding and gravel riding. I like endurance riding, 20, 30, 50 miles, not fast paced spin riding or competing with others. I am tired of trying to use a trainer in the house on my road bike so I decided to give the smart stationary bike a go. I mainly need something to keep my legs in shape during the winter months. I looked at Peloton, nordic track and Bowflex. I am not interested in trainer videos, I would rather have the option to do virtual rides and also have different apps to choose from, like Netflix etc.., also the JRNY membership is more affordable it seems than either Peloton or Nordic track. I believe the JRNY app will only improve over time (updates?). what are your thoughts?
I really hope so. The bike feels built to only get better. With the way these connected fitness products are built, companies know they cannot just release a product and never do anything again. They have to continue to improve, push our more features, improve content... all that stuff. If they do not, they will be forgotten in this space. So, I have to believe Bowflex realizes this and the bike will continue to improve and do more.
I went with the Velocore, to save money and I also don't need the motivation to work out. I hope JRNY improves as they add content, etc. It's fine but not as slick as Peloton.
Purchased the Bike Plus back in June 2021. For the past couple of months I’ve been experiencing pedal crank noise & wobbly handlebar issues. I contacted Peleton tech support, sent them uploaded videos and I was told that replacement parts were going to be ordered and shipped directly to me, a third party vendor is going to contact me to schedule an appointment to replace the parts. Frankly, I didn’t spend nearly $3K for the bike & extended warranty to have a third party vendor come out to troubleshoot. I’m not too happy about that. It makes me feel like PELETON is no different than Nordictrack. So keep that in mind before you spend your hard earned money.
It looks neat but built specifically to maximizing the Zwift experience. So, before you do anything, test Zwift and make sure you thoroughly love that structure. I do struggle with the price of the bike considering it does not come with a screen or pedals. But I get it, to fully take advantage of the Zwift experience, you need some extra tech other bikes do not include. I have never tested it but I could see where hardcore Zwift riders would like this option.
Hey, thanks for your reviews; they are very helpful. One thing I really think I will like is the scenic rides in various locales. You mention that Peloton has only three guided rides of this type. Does the VeloCore have ANY at all?
Thank you so much Eric! As of last check the Velocore did not have any and Peloton still only has the 3. Your choices are probably the iFit bikes (NordicTrack S22i & Proform Studio Pro 22) and Stryde because you can load iFit on it. I did grab the updated S22i bike and posted a video on that if you find it helpful. Good luck with your decision! ruclips.net/video/IXejAfiu9RI/видео.html
😀 Yes Sir! As of right now, I will be getting 4 different rowers and reviewing all of them and then doing some compares. Very exciting to start getting those videos out!
Hey Travis great video as always I do have one question since I can't find it anywhere does Peleton have live evening classes or do they have live classes 24-7
Thanks Justin! Looking over the schedule now and it looks like 2:30 AM to 8:00 PM or so is the most you are going to get. More often 5:30 AM to 6:30 PM is what you see though.
So is there a number for the resistance on the bowflex’s screen? Can I change it to 50 (though manually) and it feels similar to peloton? Or will I even know what resistance level I’m at? Great vid and sorry for late comment! Thanks in advance!
Thanks! I am not in front of my bike but pretty positive it does. I think I have video in my video that shows the metrics you see. The numbers might not match up between Velocore and Peloton perfectly but they both have very good resistance and you would be able to match up the resistance\feel pretty well.
Thanks for the videos! These are my top two bikes to get. My only question is, if i can use the peloton app on my ipad and subscribe to peloton digital, is there any reason to get the peloton if i can get the same sessions on the bowflex? The sessions are the only reason i haven't pulled the trigger yet, and they have a great deal now, 1799, plus 1 yr jrny. The lean feature is the main feature i want.
My pleasure! You can still get all the Peloton content in you iPad and the Velocore will feed cadence information to the Peloton app. You don’t get bells and whistles like leaderboard and auto resistance change but you can do Peloton rides from the Velocore. Hope that helps!
Great video and thanks for this comparison! I'm just curious, I've heard a lot of negative on what the JRNY app has to offer. Do they update with instructor rides often or provide new content to Velocore owners? From what I have seen most say the JRNY does not offer much for the price. I prefer what the velocorw offers over peloton but JRNY is the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger. Thanks!
Thanks Daniel! That is something I am going to try to keep my eye on. Peloton does a better job showing when videos are from and pushing new content, so you know when stuff is new or old. The Velocore does not really do this. Content does not have a date and it seems to be mixed together so new content does not stand out as much as the Peloton. I do think they are pushing new content but I don't think it is at nearly the rate as Peloton.
Since you can use the Peloton app on the Velocore does this override this concern? I am really torn between the two. I like the lean function and ability to stream but like Pelotons class options. Any new updates or ideas?
Hey Trav, love your content 👍 Just wondering, in your opinion… which is the overall best exercise bike for the everyday user? Peloton, Nordic, Echelon, Perform, etc… Disregard price, which do you think is best on the market?? Thanks Andrew.
Thanks Andrew! A lot of these bikes are not too far off from each other, so generally I recommend the one that has the features that work best for you. Do you like studio rides? Do you like instructor led scenic rides? Do you like more variety and control to be able to switch it up between platforms as well as use streaming services? Most of these bikes could be the right bike, but if I were to pick one that I think is best right now and the most likely pair for most people.... I would say Peloton Bike+. Hope that helps!
The Velocore has the spot for a phone or tablet so you could use the Peloton app while on it. Do you know if the Peloton app pretty much provides everything the Peloton bike does in terms of content and being able to work out with or against others?
Do you think the lean mode is a better overall workout than the incline/decline that’s available in the Nordictrack s22i? The Peloton + doesn’t incline, correct?
Correct on Peloton. I think lean more adds more quality to the exercise because you engage more muscles. As far as enjoyment/excitement neither really add a ton for me but I would give the vote to S22i as it does make those trail rides seem a little more realistic.
The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/learnwithtravis09211 Peloton or Velocore? Which is one is better?
Do you know if you have to pay the membership fee on the bow flex bike to use all the streaming fearures? I use the peloton app and was hoping to just use that on the bow flex bike but I don’t want to pay for both the JRNY and peloton app memberships
I haven’t paid a jrny subscription fee in the nearly 2 years I’ve had the Velocore (first year free then cancelled) and I haven’t noticed any difference at all. Still updates, new programs, new scenic rides and still streaming Amazon prime and Netflix like I always did so I’m not sure what you lose as I still have everything.
I like using the actual velocore22 bike but there are problems they need to fix if you want to use zwift. The locked monitor is annoying. Also the jrny app is horrible. 1. add the zwift app so i can display zwift on the bowflex screen instead of on my laptop. unluck the screen so we can add apps like zwift and youtube. 2. why does the manual workout stop at 1:39... i regularly bike for 4+ hours. 3. you cant do the jrny off bike videos... the monitor pauses when you stop pedaling. this is a poor design. please fix. 4. add watts to screen... why so i have to connect to another app to see my watts.
Bowflex needs a built-in video game that takes advantage of the Velocore‘s lean mode imo
100 percent agree! Disappointed in how little they have done with this. Could be amazing.
I accidentally managed to figure out, how to watch RUclips and Netflix on my Peloton, but never bothered since. Still loving my Peloton 18 months later! Thx for these vids!
My pleasure and glad the bike has worked out so well for you!
Bought the Peloton+ and was happy until I tried the Velocore at a family members house 3 weeks after receiving my Peloton. Needless to say, I returned my Peloton Bike + and ordered the Velocore. Peloton is for people who want to ride with their friends and say they have a Peloton. Velocore is for anyone looking for a workout
This is one of the reasons I make these videos. No bike is the perfect fit for everyone.
Crazy I just bought your velocore at a liquidation auction! thanks for keeping the bike in good condition!
Mine? I still have the one I got! 😀
I just ride my peloton with the fire tv on. You tube has some great 4K bike routes in Switzerland.
Will have to check that out. Switzerland is amazing!
These videos are bad ass for someone looking for a bike. I love my peloton and nothing (in my opinion) can beat it. But it’s cool as hell to see what other bikes have to offer and how you can really choose just whats best for you
Thank you so much John! I work hard on these videos so comments like this make it worth it! Agree that the Peloton is pretty special!
@@Learnwithtravis it changed my life man. I went from someone who hated HATED cardio with to someone who gets up at 4 AM everyday to get a 45min session in! Sometimes 60! These bikes are changing fitness. Keep up the good work with these videos brother!
Verry good video mate butt i prefere Bowflex Velocore bicouse its haw you say in this video its training more zone like normal bike..
I love indoor cycling bikes but the one downside is how little of the body is engaged. (Why I have fallen in love with rowing) The Velocore does improve on this concern!
Another good video, Travis. Thanks for all of your help. I watched pretty much all of your vids before making my decision and my final 2 were the Peloton and the Velocore (NordicTrack's record of poor customer service eliminated their offering). Your vids were the most informative and really helped clarify the decision points.
I still agonized over the decision though. I really liked the features of the Velocore but for the same reasons you discuss in the video I went with the Peloton. While being able to use something like Zwift would have been great, ultimately Peloton is the Champ of this market because of the quality and amount of content. Reducing the price of the bike $400 also made a difference. But I don't think users would go wrong either way buying one or the other.
Thank you so much Walt! I really appreciate the kind words and love hearing my videos helped out! I think you are right that most people would be happy with either option as they are both very nice. So glad to hear your choice is working out well for you!
Bull shit that $39/month at $468 year on top of cost of bike nah keep
@@bull5919If it keeps you coming back, it's well worth it. If it doesn't, then it's the wrong program for you.
Travis, appreciate your videos! I am a regular cyclist, road riding and gravel riding. I like endurance riding, 20, 30, 50 miles, not fast paced spin riding or competing with others. I am tired of trying to use a trainer in the house on my road bike so I decided to give the smart stationary bike a go. I mainly need something to keep my legs in shape during the winter months. I looked at Peloton, nordic track and Bowflex. I am not interested in trainer videos, I would rather have the option to do virtual rides and also have different apps to choose from, like Netflix etc.., also the JRNY membership is more affordable it seems than either Peloton or Nordic track. I believe the JRNY app will only improve over time (updates?). what are your thoughts?
I really hope so. The bike feels built to only get better. With the way these connected fitness products are built, companies know they cannot just release a product and never do anything again. They have to continue to improve, push our more features, improve content... all that stuff. If they do not, they will be forgotten in this space. So, I have to believe Bowflex realizes this and the bike will continue to improve and do more.
Hi...you can study this..Thacx neo bike....but is expensive but it’s amazing and works with zwift...
I went with the Velocore, to save money and I also don't need the motivation to work out. I hope JRNY improves as they add content, etc. It's fine but not as slick as Peloton.
Completely agree and being a newer platform, I fully expect it to improve quite a bit over time.
Excellent video, thank you!
You are welcome!
Purchased the Bike Plus back in June 2021. For the past couple of months I’ve been experiencing pedal crank noise & wobbly handlebar issues. I contacted Peleton tech support, sent them uploaded videos and I was told that replacement parts were going to be ordered and shipped directly to me, a third party vendor is going to contact me to schedule an appointment to replace the parts. Frankly, I didn’t spend nearly $3K for the bike & extended warranty to have a third party vendor come out to troubleshoot. I’m not too happy about that. It makes me feel like PELETON is no different than Nordictrack. So keep that in mind before you spend your hard earned money.
You’ve to be an idiot to buy a bike for 3K lmao I got the bike plus for 999
Hi Travis. Thank you for your video...do you know the “thacx neo bike “ never try?what do you think about it?
It looks neat but built specifically to maximizing the Zwift experience. So, before you do anything, test Zwift and make sure you thoroughly love that structure. I do struggle with the price of the bike considering it does not come with a screen or pedals. But I get it, to fully take advantage of the Zwift experience, you need some extra tech other bikes do not include. I have never tested it but I could see where hardcore Zwift riders would like this option.
Hey, thanks for your reviews; they are very helpful. One thing I really think I will like is the scenic rides in various locales. You mention that Peloton has only three guided rides of this type. Does the VeloCore have ANY at all?
Thank you so much Eric! As of last check the Velocore did not have any and Peloton still only has the 3. Your choices are probably the iFit bikes (NordicTrack S22i & Proform Studio Pro 22) and Stryde because you can load iFit on it. I did grab the updated S22i bike and posted a video on that if you find it helpful. Good luck with your decision! ruclips.net/video/IXejAfiu9RI/видео.html
ooohhhh the ergata!!! NIOCE!! Are you going to get the Hydrow as well?
😀 Yes Sir! As of right now, I will be getting 4 different rowers and reviewing all of them and then doing some compares. Very exciting to start getting those videos out!
Hey Travis great video as always I do have one question since I can't find it anywhere does Peleton have live evening classes or do they have live classes 24-7
Thanks Justin! Looking over the schedule now and it looks like 2:30 AM to 8:00 PM or so is the most you are going to get. More often 5:30 AM to 6:30 PM is what you see though.
Will you be reviewing the Echelon Bikes?
I did review the EX5-S. At this point... I don't have plans to review any more Echelon bikes. Sorry!
So is there a number for the resistance on the bowflex’s screen? Can I change it to 50 (though manually) and it feels similar to peloton? Or will I even know what resistance level I’m at? Great vid and sorry for late comment! Thanks in advance!
Thanks! I am not in front of my bike but pretty positive it does. I think I have video in my video that shows the metrics you see. The numbers might not match up between Velocore and Peloton perfectly but they both have very good resistance and you would be able to match up the resistance\feel pretty well.
Thanks for the videos! These are my top two bikes to get. My only question is, if i can use the peloton app on my ipad and subscribe to peloton digital, is there any reason to get the peloton if i can get the same sessions on the bowflex? The sessions are the only reason i haven't pulled the trigger yet, and they have a great deal now, 1799, plus 1 yr jrny. The lean feature is the main feature i want.
My pleasure! You can still get all the Peloton content in you iPad and the Velocore will feed cadence information to the Peloton app. You don’t get bells and whistles like leaderboard and auto resistance change but you can do Peloton rides from the Velocore. Hope that helps!
Great video and thanks for this comparison! I'm just curious, I've heard a lot of negative on what the JRNY app has to offer. Do they update with instructor rides often or provide new content to Velocore owners? From what I have seen most say the JRNY does not offer much for the price. I prefer what the velocorw offers over peloton but JRNY is the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger. Thanks!
Thanks Daniel! That is something I am going to try to keep my eye on. Peloton does a better job showing when videos are from and pushing new content, so you know when stuff is new or old. The Velocore does not really do this. Content does not have a date and it seems to be mixed together so new content does not stand out as much as the Peloton. I do think they are pushing new content but I don't think it is at nearly the rate as Peloton.
Since you can use the Peloton app on the Velocore does this override this concern? I am really torn between the two. I like the lean function and ability to stream but like Pelotons class options. Any new updates or ideas?
Can I use apple fitness on Velocore?
Not directly, you would have to use your own tablet as it does have a tablet holder.
Hey Trav, love your content 👍
Just wondering, in your opinion… which is the overall best exercise bike for the everyday user?
Peloton, Nordic, Echelon, Perform, etc…
Disregard price, which do you think is best on the market??
Thanks
Andrew.
Thanks Andrew! A lot of these bikes are not too far off from each other, so generally I recommend the one that has the features that work best for you. Do you like studio rides? Do you like instructor led scenic rides? Do you like more variety and control to be able to switch it up between platforms as well as use streaming services? Most of these bikes could be the right bike, but if I were to pick one that I think is best right now and the most likely pair for most people.... I would say Peloton Bike+. Hope that helps!
Are you able to watch youtube on the Peleton bike?
I think some people have a "hack" but not as designed.
The Velocore has the spot for a phone or tablet so you could use the Peloton app while on it. Do you know if the Peloton app pretty much provides everything the Peloton bike does in terms of content and being able to work out with or against others?
Content, yes. Other features… no. No leaderboard, in ride features, or automatic resistance changes.
Do you think the lean mode is a better overall workout than the incline/decline that’s available in the Nordictrack s22i? The Peloton + doesn’t incline, correct?
Correct on Peloton. I think lean more adds more quality to the exercise because you engage more muscles. As far as enjoyment/excitement neither really add a ton for me but I would give the vote to S22i as it does make those trail rides seem a little more realistic.
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Peloton or Velocore? Which is one is better?
Do you know if you have to pay the membership fee on the bow flex bike to use all the streaming fearures? I use the peloton app and was hoping to just use that on the bow flex bike but I don’t want to pay for both the JRNY and peloton app memberships
I am honestly not sure as I have never used it without a subscription. Sorry.
This may be late, but yes, you need the JRNY app to use the built-in streaming services.
Thanks for sharing. I figured but had not tested myself.
I haven’t paid a jrny subscription fee in the nearly 2 years I’ve had the Velocore (first year free then cancelled) and I haven’t noticed any difference at all. Still updates, new programs, new scenic rides and still streaming Amazon prime and Netflix like I always did so I’m not sure what you lose as I still have everything.
Does the velecore have maps
I don't believe so. From what I know, only the iFit bikes do so the NordicTrack S22i and the Proform Studio Pro 22.
I like using the actual velocore22 bike but there are problems they need to fix if you want to use zwift. The locked monitor is annoying. Also the jrny app is horrible.
1. add the zwift app so i can display zwift on the bowflex screen instead of on my laptop. unluck the screen so we can add apps like zwift and youtube.
2. why does the manual workout stop at 1:39... i regularly bike for 4+ hours.
3. you cant do the jrny off bike videos... the monitor pauses when you stop pedaling. this is a poor design. please fix.
4. add watts to screen... why so i have to connect to another app to see my watts.
It looks like this bike only comes with a two year warranty on the frame that's a deal breaker for me .
Good catch. Hope you are able to find the best option for you!