A better way to clean the intercooler can be seen here: ruclips.net/video/bCgm0Z8JJRg/видео.html No need for acetone or carb cleaner. Simply dishwashing liquid. Easier and cheaper 😀
@@dracony7649 Yes, you can use petrol/diesel to clean it. Difficult to clean the diesel residue afterwards. I still use dishwashing liquid, but needs to evaporate to be used in the car.
@@moremolecules thx for the info man Also one more thing do u have shield underneath the engine ?And i wana know if it does reduce noise or it just to protect the engine bay underneath it
@@dracony7649 Yes it has the upgraded metal sump guard (Partner Escapade). Not too sure if it reduces the noise, but will certainly protect the engine/sump from a knock, it is pretty substantial piece of metal.
@@moremolecules i see thats good to know✌ maybe il buy a metal shield because mine doesnt have any not so sure if its necesary but looking forward for it
@@moremolecules thanks for the reply! i have replaced/cleaned everything: egr, turbo cartridge, breather valve, all the pipes etc.. i just cannot seem to get the intercooler out to clean it (ford fiesta) do you think it would be a problem if i just leave it as it is with everything else fixed? my guess is it will just have a bit less power but it wouldnt be such a problem for me..
@@ebebimik The intercooler adds a lot of efficiency, at the end of the day it cools the air so more can be packed inside the engine. It will not really increase power, even if you clean it. It may restore a bit, but it is not that much more. If you have cleaned everything else, I would say leave the intercooler, it will be ok.
Unfortunately does not work on my 2009 Peugeot 308 1.6HDi 80Kw On this one the intercooler bolts are behind the bumper / plastic impact absorber. Also air conditioning pipes are close to the intercooler stopping it from being lifted or lowered out. The only way to get at the intercooler is to remove bumper and impact absorber so you can unbolt the intercooler and slide forward the radiator surround.
Well, yes, mine does not have an air conditioning and is a Peugeot Partner, so slightly bigger engine bay. Ahh, removing bumper, all sorts of problems with alignment of the bumper afterwards...
Thank you for the suggestion. As far as I remember the heatshield prevents the radiator to be tilted in any direction to allow the intercooler to be taken from the top. I might be mistaken or my engine bay is a bit different, but I could not taken out from the top.
hi mate today i have tried your method ,but only little effect but instant powerful method i use is elbow grease spray which only cost me £ 1.00 ,i sprayed in with hot water and its miracle
Yes, that was my first ever attemot at cleaning that intercooler. Here is how I now do it: ruclips.net/video/bCgm0Z8JJRg/видео.html Dishwashing liquid + water and it is sparkling clean. No need for any other chemicals. I have also pinned this follow up for people to see that it is probably easier with simple dishwashing liquid.
Hi @moremolecules. In my 2010 c3 1.6 hdi there is a metal plate underneath the intercooler which blocking me to take the intercooler out. How can I take that plate out? Thanks
Yeah, not too sure about the 2010 C4. I also have a metal plate or at least the intercooler is sitting on a metal plate, but I lift the intercooler a bit and swing it out.
hi,the pipe you twisted upwards,i need an 0 ring that sits inside that pipe any idea where i can get one,ive tried fords and they dont sell them,thanks
If the question is about the o-ring that is very close to the turbo itself, the Citroen/Peugeot or PSA part number is 144081. You can probably search for this on ebay.
Most likely it comes from the turbo itself, otherwise it may come from the crankcase breather if the engine is an extremely heavy breather or the membrane is ruptured in the PCV valve there.
Hello. Good movie dude. What kind of symptoms make you too clean it? My 1.6 diesel has low power on low rpm. Like till 2000 rpm is "sleeping". After 2.5k rpm drives well.
Thanks for the heads up. There were not really any noticeable symptoms, it was more of trying to keep the engine at optimal conditions. 2,500 seems quite a bit high, mine the torque starts at ~1,800rpm, i.e. the turbo kicks in. A dirty intercooler could potentially loose efficiency and not cool the air, hence less dense air can be compressed by the turbo. If I were you I would hook it up to Diagbox/Lexia/PP2000 and see if there are any errors, EGR, MAF, injectors, etc.
You have a fan on the intercooler? There should not be a fan there. Do you mean the fan on the radiator? If that is the case, it is most likely the relay next to the radiator.
Hi Clint, it's not that different than cleaning the EGR valve. In general there is a bit of oil coming from the crankcase breather that coats the intercooler in oily film. This reduces the efficiency of the intercooler. By how much it depends on how much oil it gets passed through.
2:13 the bolt you remove is missing from my car any id on the bold size length etc P.s your videos are cracking the vehicle your working on is the same as mine thanks for making the videos.
Not too sure of the id on the bolt, probably m6, but it is a generic bolt, not much complicated about it. Probably M6, but not too sure. Get a few bolts from the local store, m4, m6 and it should fit.
Thanks.......Just notice the broken top heat shiel repair.............I'm looking to something with mine also................lug sections broken off. Lol!
Hi Joel, AFAIK there is no interval, but they do not last that long and it will depend on circumstances. 100k miles is probably how much they last on average.
@@Joel..01 They could last longer, it just really depends on how much oil gets passed via the crankcase breather, if you do long journeys or just short ones, etc.
My both intercooler hose has visible oil around it spacialy one on the left which is kind of not very plastic one . So just bought the car yesterday . i am going to clean them as you did in this video but why they are oily?? Is this a problem? Car is 77000 mile. Also can I clean intercooler with petrol??
Hi Bahadir, yes it is normal to have oil around it. It should not be too excessive though. It comes from the turbo and from the crankcase breather, i.e. oil evaporates and then gets blown through the turbo and condenses in the intercooler. It would be a good idea to clean it. I would use petrol or other cleaning agents and not acetone, as acetone may soften the plastic around it.
Hi; I think it is not possible to remove intercooler by using ordinary mehanical scissor type car lifter - jack due to it's short lifting ability and since we should take it from bottom side.
Hi ardi, not really. The holes inside are somewhat too small to insert anything. I heard someone suggesting fitting a drain at the bottom. That would probably work.
I do not think they go by sizes as all for the 1.6HDi are the same, i.e. the turbo spout is the same size. If yours is leaking/split, most that say 1.6HDi turbo seal will fit. I can check, but I do not think I have seen sizes for these.
@@ballkeeper6662 I hope we are talking about the same thing. Normally these are red rubber for all pre-2010 models. Something like this here: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-Air-Pipe-Sleeve-Seal-1-6-HDI-fits-Citroen-Peugeot-Mini/353105803435 There are others of course and quality might be different.
@@moremolecules no , on the pipe your taking off, right hand side thats joined to the silver part with 10mm bolt there a seal there number 2.turborury.pl/allegro/_data/i/upload/2019/02/19/20190219162831-cb910561-me.jpg
@@ballkeeper6662 Ahh, apologies. The PSA number for this is 144081 and one can find those on ebay, for example www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-PSA-GENUINE-TURBO-INTAKE-PIPE-SEAL-144081/163797327654
It's also worth cleaning the air temp and map sensor as these can get full of oil which ones hard over time, also clean the maf meter, be carefull don't use break cleaner use carb cleaner or something that doesn't react with the rubber seals on map and top sensor
Hi Tony, I am not really too sure about the 308, but it seems like there are two bolts at the top. Mine had only one bolt in the middle at the top of the intercooler, between the two pipes
On my 308 you have to take off the bumper to get to the bolts, or take off the bottom panel and reach up between the radiator and bumper, you can see the bolts through the grill.
Hi Bibin, I did not bother to clean it outside. I should have cleaned it probably, but it was not too dirty. The acetone, which mentioned by someone else, I should have used something else, like petrol, is volatile. In other words, evaporates quickly. With water I can shake it and dislodge bigger particles that are stuck inside.
Hi Slobodan, I managed to get it from underneath the car. There was no chance to get from top. If there is a tray you have to remove it. I am not too sure about the 307, but it should be possible. Some hdis could be done from top, but depends on the position with respect to the radiator and aluminium shields.
No, but it may soften the plastic components. Petrol or other plastic safe detergent will be better. You can still use acetone, but one have to be quick.
There are no noticeable symptoms, but in general oil in the intercooler will lead to inefficient cooling of the hot compressed air from the turbo. Hence, the car would loose power and likely to consume more fuel.
I think cleaning the inter-cooler should improve heat transfer. Improving performance slightly. But if there is oil sludge in the cooler, then how long before you're inter-cooler is oiled up again?
Hi Deon, that is a good question. I have an oil catch can fitted, so I really hope that it will take awhile to oil the intercooler again. It really depends on how much oil the car is spewing into the air intake - pre-turbo. If you loose oil in-between services, then the intercooler will get oily quicker than if you do not have to top up the oil. There is no simple way to answer the question. If the car does not loose any oil in-between services than it would be fairly clean for longer, how long is different matter. I have had the car for ~8years and has ~95k miles on the clock, but there is no need to top up with oil in-between regular oil changes. When I cleaned it, as shown in the video, there is only a film, rather than pooled oil inside. Hope this makes sense.
@@Deontjie Not too sure what you meant by worn injectors and skewing oil check results. Overall the oil that ends in the intercooler will be from the sump oil. If the injectors are that bad that spew oil from them, then that has to looked at. I have only emptied the oil catch can twice, so not too much observation how much oil ends in it. It has a bit of oil inside and last time I checked it was fair amount. My hose only captures ~60ml of fluid, so I suspect that ~10-15ml is oil. The other thing is that the turbo can leak a bit of oil in the intercooler on the turbine side. Mine leaks a bit, which goes with the air in the intercooler.
@@moremolecules It is now 22:24 here in Cape Town. Excess fuel from worn fuel injectors can contaminate the engine oil. And increase the amount of oil. Or so I have heard. All I want is to restore the lost power in my 150,000 km VW T3.
@@Deontjie Hmm, generally worn injectors can potentially contaminate the oil, but they are very volatile, so they will evaporate quite quickly and get burned off. I am not 100% certain, but this would not really increase the amount of oil in the sump, i.e. if you check the dipstick. Cleaning the intercooler would certainly give you some power back, depending on how oily it was to begin with. A secret though, change the gearbox oil, this certainly restores quite a bit of power and decreases fuel consumption.
After the intercooler the air is colder and it goes into the air doser. The air doser has a butterfly valve that adjusts the air flow. That also needs cleaning from time to time.
@@moremolecules My 1.6 hdi is making tapping noise in line with the RPMs. The sound comes from between the doser and the high-pressure fuel pump. Engine start is sometimes very rough, and tapping noise is usually not there in the beginning and it always comes after a few minutes driving, mainly when the engine is already hot. Sometimes after I park the car and shut off the engine, a few seconds later I hear something that resembles a valve moving into place, like if it was left stuck for a moment. When that happens the car was making tapping noises when running. Can this be a bad air doser, or high fuel pressure pump with a valve partially stuck? Can it be the vacuum pressure pump, and the turbo geometry valve is partially stuck? If I rev the engine hard enough it stays normal for a couple of minutes with no tapping noise. The car is like this for almost a year, the dealer couldn't figure out the problem and usually, I am the one fixing my car, but this time I am not finding the solution.
@@carlosmonteiro8616 Could an injector be making "chuffing" noises? Have a listen at the injectors, sometimes a screwdriver next to each of them and listen on it (ear on the screwdriver) might help with tapping/chuffing noises. It could be a belt pulley/tensioner. It is a bit hard to say anything without trying different things. When you switch off, the EGR will be heard closing. Hope you find the tapping sound. I have something similar, but it is most likely noisy belt pulley/tensioner, which I will have to replace sometime.
@@moremolecules Belt pulley/tensioner has been changed one and half year ago. Can it be bad timing? I have the care since 2008 and I have never heard the EGR valve close, the sound of something (possibly a valve closing) that I hear now it isn't normal and happens just not very often but always when tapping just occurred right before I turn off the engine. It is very audible. The best way I can describe the sound it does is similar to the sound of the windshield electric water pump, pumping on dry. If I disconnect the EGR plug and go drive when I turn off the engine and plug it back in will the error go away or I need a computer to reset de errors on ECU? (I can do that with MAF, but don't know if I can do it with EGR.) Thank you
@@carlosmonteiro8616 You can disconnect the EGR, but it will throw an error, sometimes (depending on model) you can get EML to turn on. When you plug it back in the error will stay, but it is a temporary error. It can be cleared with a cheap OBDII scanner. Could it be power steering pump?
Whats the name of that plastic tube you tipped up in the air at first, but eventually took completely of? Between the Intercooler tube and the turbo. And why didnt you clean that part too? 😊
Hi Mie, the plastic pipe is called "intake air resonator". I did not clean it as it is generally pretty clean. In general the oil vapor condenses in the intercooler, rather than this pipe. I should have probably cleaned it as well.
Hi Fraizer, the plastic is very hard on the intercooler and I keep it for not so long to dissolve it. It also depends on the type of plastic material. The actual acetone came in a plastic bottle. It is very good oil solvent.
if i am not worng is ABS who is petrolium plastic. it eat the plastic. yes is thick you are right but what happen between the aluminum and plastic and there is too a join between them ? why dont you use gasoline ? or an strongre degreaser ? :) about eating plastic when acetone start to disolv the plasti it make it soft like chweengum. for me the only good point of the acetone is to make it evaporate very fast. at 60°c it come gaz and evaporate
@@fraizer2600 It could be ABS, not too sure. In hindsight and that you have mentioned it, I should have probably used petrol or something else. I was probably lucky, nothing was dissolved and the plastic did not change at all.
Hello, I guess, there is not sense to clean the intercooler when didnt broke anything in turbo before.... there isnot any demonstrable waste of power due to less oil.....
Hi chromance, not entirely true. With time the crankcase breather oily vapor and turbo seepage will condense in the intercooler as oily film. This oily film will reduce the efficiency of the intercooler, thereby it will not sufficiently cool the compressed (hot) air from the turbo and you get loss in power/consumption due to loss in compression ability, i.e. cold air is denser than hot air. I cannot measure the addition of power/decreased consumption, as getting on a dyno is too expensive for me, but should be an increase in power.
To be honest, I did not really noticed any significant difference. Maybe there was something for awhile, but it was fairly minimal. I thought it was going to be significantly better, but not much. I suspect it depends on how much oily film is there to begin with. If there is much, it will make a difference.
Hahaha, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. In other words, I know I should not do that, but sometimes it is so much more convenient to just ratchet with the torque wrench, rather than change and use another wrench. I absolutely know that this should not be done :-) Well noticed and caught. My fault completely.
At Peugeot Partner / Citroën Berlingo 1.6 HDI with climate control, it´s not possible to take the intercooler out from under, I removed the coolant radiator and will give it a try like that way, otherwise the total front of the car :-((( must be released
Hi Jacobs, it is possible that it cannot be taken out from under the car. Unfortunately, I do not have one with climate control and cannot quite comment. If it does not work with the radiator removed, the front bumper is not that difficult to remove. Good luck
Thanks for the comment vince. I agree, in a hindsight, should have used petrol or something else. It looked like ABS plastic and is pretty hard and did not dissolve it, but you are correct should have been say petrol and not acetone.
You did all that work for nothing within a day it would have been back to the same way it was all that crap would have been sitting at the bottom and wouldn’t have moved
A better way to clean the intercooler can be seen here: ruclips.net/video/bCgm0Z8JJRg/видео.html
No need for acetone or carb cleaner. Simply dishwashing liquid. Easier and cheaper 😀
Can you also use petrol or diesel to clean the intercooler ?
@@dracony7649 Yes, you can use petrol/diesel to clean it. Difficult to clean the diesel residue afterwards. I still use dishwashing liquid, but needs to evaporate to be used in the car.
@@moremolecules thx for the info man Also one more thing do u have shield underneath the engine ?And i wana know if it does reduce noise or it just to protect the engine bay underneath it
@@dracony7649 Yes it has the upgraded metal sump guard (Partner Escapade). Not too sure if it reduces the noise, but will certainly protect the engine/sump from a knock, it is pretty substantial piece of metal.
@@moremolecules i see thats good to know✌ maybe il buy a metal shield because mine doesnt have any not so sure if its necesary but looking forward for it
Thank you for your time and informative video👌
Thank you for your videos! You probably saved me 2000€ in fixing cost and man this engine is a night mare 😂
Haha, I like the engine though. A bit more frequent oil/filter changes and it will last. Thanks for the comment.
@@moremolecules thanks for the reply! i have replaced/cleaned everything: egr, turbo cartridge, breather valve, all the pipes etc.. i just cannot seem to get the intercooler out to clean it (ford fiesta) do you think it would be a problem if i just leave it as it is with everything else fixed? my guess is it will just have a bit less power but it wouldnt be such a problem for me..
@@ebebimik The intercooler adds a lot of efficiency, at the end of the day it cools the air so more can be packed inside the engine. It will not really increase power, even if you clean it. It may restore a bit, but it is not that much more. If you have cleaned everything else, I would say leave the intercooler, it will be ok.
Delete the egr, inside this engine is a mess because of it
@@charliejlavery And Oil catch can
Great video, only thing you forgot is that you dont have airco. Wich in my case i do have... And is in the way, so i cant drop the intercooler down.
Yeah, sorry, mine does not have one, so I can only show it on mine.
Professional work, thanks
Unfortunately does not work on my 2009 Peugeot 308 1.6HDi 80Kw
On this one the intercooler bolts are behind the bumper / plastic impact absorber. Also air conditioning pipes are close to the intercooler stopping it from being lifted or lowered out. The only way to get at the intercooler is to remove bumper and impact absorber so you can unbolt the intercooler and slide forward the radiator surround.
Well, yes, mine does not have an air conditioning and is a Peugeot Partner, so slightly bigger engine bay.
Ahh, removing bumper, all sorts of problems with alignment of the bumper afterwards...
Did you use acetone or petrol.. what u use in video is acetone but you recommend petrol? How was your experience?
Acetone will damage the plastic parts. Use IPA, isopropanol.
Point taken, although it depends on the plastic. I do not think it does much damage to the intercooler plastic, might be wrong though.
8:19 The intercooler mounting washer is missing too where would i get one what size
It should be in the descriotion of the video.
have you ever done a video on removal of crackshaft sensor?
Not for the crankshaft sensor
Very good video,
why didn't you tilt the radiator forward by just removing two bolts holding it and take intercooler out from the top?
Thank you for the suggestion. As far as I remember the heatshield prevents the radiator to be tilted in any direction to allow the intercooler to be taken from the top. I might be mistaken or my engine bay is a bit different, but I could not taken out from the top.
@@moremolecules you're probably right
@@moremolecules mine couldn't go out the bottom because of air con pipes I had to remove radiator and heat shield
@@adamwort7160 Good to know, yes the aircon will obstruct things.
hi mate today i have tried your method ,but only little effect but instant powerful method i use is elbow grease spray which only cost me £ 1.00 ,i sprayed in with hot water and its miracle
Yes, that was my first ever attemot at cleaning that intercooler. Here is how I now do it: ruclips.net/video/bCgm0Z8JJRg/видео.html
Dishwashing liquid + water and it is sparkling clean. No need for any other chemicals. I have also pinned this follow up for people to see that it is probably easier with simple dishwashing liquid.
Hi @moremolecules.
In my 2010 c3 1.6 hdi there is a metal plate underneath the intercooler which blocking me to take the intercooler out. How can I take that plate out?
Thanks
Yeah, not too sure about the 2010 C4. I also have a metal plate or at least the intercooler is sitting on a metal plate, but I lift the intercooler a bit and swing it out.
Nice job thanks
Can i fit this intercooler to ..my figo 1.4 tdci ? It will work ? Without any remapping
On stock
Unlikely without remapping. If it was not stock you would need to remap. The air intake amount will need remapping.
Thank . I appreciatte it 😎👌
hi,the pipe you twisted upwards,i need an 0 ring that sits inside that pipe any idea where i can get one,ive tried fords and they dont sell them,thanks
If the question is about the o-ring that is very close to the turbo itself, the Citroen/Peugeot or PSA part number is 144081. You can probably search for this on ebay.
@@moremolecules many thanks ,been hunting everywhere,thank you
My car has lots of oil in intercooler and meter above? it also has been saying anti poluction fault
Most likely it comes from the turbo itself, otherwise it may come from the crankcase breather if the engine is an extremely heavy breather or the membrane is ruptured in the PCV valve there.
Hello. Good movie dude. What kind of symptoms make you too clean it? My 1.6 diesel has low power on low rpm. Like till 2000 rpm is "sleeping". After 2.5k rpm drives well.
Thanks for the heads up. There were not really any noticeable symptoms, it was more of trying to keep the engine at optimal conditions. 2,500 seems quite a bit high, mine the torque starts at ~1,800rpm, i.e. the turbo kicks in. A dirty intercooler could potentially loose efficiency and not cool the air, hence less dense air can be compressed by the turbo. If I were you I would hook it up to Diagbox/Lexia/PP2000 and see if there are any errors, EGR, MAF, injectors, etc.
My own has fan on cooler but fan doesn’t work when I started engine can you tell me why pls?
You have a fan on the intercooler? There should not be a fan there. Do you mean the fan on the radiator? If that is the case, it is most likely the relay next to the radiator.
Great videos, however i did hear about cleaning an EGR valve but not cleaning an intercooler ☺️
Hi Clint, it's not that different than cleaning the EGR valve. In general there is a bit of oil coming from the crankcase breather that coats the intercooler in oily film. This reduces the efficiency of the intercooler. By how much it depends on how much oil it gets passed through.
2:13 the bolt you remove is missing from my car any id on the bold size length etc P.s your videos are cracking the vehicle your working on is the same as mine thanks for making the videos.
Not too sure of the id on the bolt, probably m6, but it is a generic bolt, not much complicated about it. Probably M6, but not too sure. Get a few bolts from the local store, m4, m6 and it should fit.
@@moremolecules Thanks for the info
You don't have a 1/4" drive socket set? Always undo hose clamps with a socket.
Yea, good advice, but I do not think I had one at the time.
@@moremolecules I've been there before too. On the side of the road with no tools trying to get it going again
Very nice vidéo. Thank you so mutch
can you use kerosen to clean?
Yes you can. It is probably better than the acetone that I used. The acetone if one is not careful can degrade plastic.
Хомуты на патрубках не плохо откручивать головкой на 7mm, сами патрубки интеркулера снимаются легко вниз они пружинят на кольцах.
Thanks.......Just notice the broken top heat shiel repair.............I'm looking to something with mine also................lug sections broken off. Lol!
Yeah, these shields are poor design and are too expensive to buy for the amount of time they last. My original replacement lasted exactly 1 year.
Do you know if there is any interval on changing particulate filters on these engines?
Hi Joel, AFAIK there is no interval, but they do not last that long and it will depend on circumstances. 100k miles is probably how much they last on average.
@@moremolecules Thanks. My car has gone 120000km so a bit more before a replacement then.
@@Joel..01 They could last longer, it just really depends on how much oil gets passed via the crankcase breather, if you do long journeys or just short ones, etc.
My both intercooler hose has visible oil around it spacialy one on the left which is kind of not very plastic one . So just bought the car yesterday . i am going to clean them as you did in this video but why they are oily?? Is this a problem? Car is 77000 mile. Also can I clean intercooler with petrol??
Hi Bahadir, yes it is normal to have oil around it. It should not be too excessive though. It comes from the turbo and from the crankcase breather, i.e. oil evaporates and then gets blown through the turbo and condenses in the intercooler. It would be a good idea to clean it. I would use petrol or other cleaning agents and not acetone, as acetone may soften the plastic around it.
more molecules thanks for quick reply Hopefully soon I will start doing it by watching this video thanks again
Same milage same issue How did you fix yours
Thnx in advance
Nice video! Have you cleaned the pipe connecting EGR gasses with fresh air?
Hi Pawel, I have not done that, but will have to do it one day.
Hi; I think it is not possible to remove intercooler by using ordinary mehanical scissor type car lifter - jack due to it's short lifting ability and since we should take it from bottom side.
I am using a scissor type car jack, I do not really have another one. So it is possible.
Can we insert a straw or solicone tube to suck the oil from intercooler?
Hi ardi, not really. The holes inside are somewhat too small to insert anything. I heard someone suggesting fitting a drain at the bottom. That would probably work.
hi on the turbo pipe there ruber seals one that fits into the turbo do you know the size please
I do not think they go by sizes as all for the 1.6HDi are the same, i.e. the turbo spout is the same size. If yours is leaking/split, most that say 1.6HDi turbo seal will fit. I can check, but I do not think I have seen sizes for these.
@@moremolecules yes mine leaking right where the pipe goes into the turbo pipe green seal is it ? but cant find it online uk ?
@@ballkeeper6662 I hope we are talking about the same thing. Normally these are red rubber for all pre-2010 models. Something like this here: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-Air-Pipe-Sleeve-Seal-1-6-HDI-fits-Citroen-Peugeot-Mini/353105803435
There are others of course and quality might be different.
@@moremolecules no , on the pipe your taking off, right hand side thats joined to the silver part with 10mm bolt there a seal there number 2.turborury.pl/allegro/_data/i/upload/2019/02/19/20190219162831-cb910561-me.jpg
@@ballkeeper6662 Ahh, apologies. The PSA number for this is 144081 and one can find those on ebay, for example www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-PSA-GENUINE-TURBO-INTAKE-PIPE-SEAL-144081/163797327654
Did u measure before and after intake temps ?
I have not, but probably should have. I have not got a laser-type temperature device, maybe I should buy one.
It's also worth cleaning the air temp and map sensor as these can get full of oil which ones hard over time, also clean the maf meter, be carefull don't use break cleaner use carb cleaner or something that doesn't react with the rubber seals on map and top sensor
hi how is the intercooler held on my 308 hdi,i cant see anywhere that its fastened in as i need to clean it out ?
Hi Tony, I am not really too sure about the 308, but it seems like there are two bolts at the top. Mine had only one bolt in the middle at the top of the intercooler, between the two pipes
On my 308 you have to take off the bumper to get to the bolts, or take off the bottom panel and reach up between the radiator and bumper, you can see the bolts through the grill.
Naice vidéos thank you
Sir, I like your video.but I have one confusion.only cleaning inside out side not cleaned.and another one use to water.🤔🤔
Hi Bibin, I did not bother to clean it outside. I should have cleaned it probably, but it was not too dirty. The acetone, which mentioned by someone else, I should have used something else, like petrol, is volatile. In other words, evaporates quickly. With water I can shake it and dislodge bigger particles that are stuck inside.
How did you remove intercooler?I have tried on 307 1.6 hdi but no chance to get it out?
Hi Slobodan, I managed to get it from underneath the car. There was no chance to get from top. If there is a tray you have to remove it. I am not too sure about the 307, but it should be possible. Some hdis could be done from top, but depends on the position with respect to the radiator and aluminium shields.
Will acetone kill the metals inside
No, but it may soften the plastic components. Petrol or other plastic safe detergent will be better. You can still use acetone, but one have to be quick.
Love your videos! Thx :)
Many thanks for the heads up, really appreciated!
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what simptomes hade the auto when te intercooler hade oil inside?
There are no noticeable symptoms, but in general oil in the intercooler will lead to inefficient cooling of the hot compressed air from the turbo. Hence, the car would loose power and likely to consume more fuel.
@@moremolecules thx for the quick answer
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I hope that video was ok?
I think cleaning the inter-cooler should improve heat transfer. Improving performance slightly. But if there is oil sludge in the cooler, then how long before you're inter-cooler is oiled up again?
Hi Deon, that is a good question. I have an oil catch can fitted, so I really hope that it will take awhile to oil the intercooler again. It really depends on how much oil the car is spewing into the air intake - pre-turbo. If you loose oil in-between services, then the intercooler will get oily quicker than if you do not have to top up the oil. There is no simple way to answer the question. If the car does not loose any oil in-between services than it would be fairly clean for longer, how long is different matter. I have had the car for ~8years and has ~95k miles on the clock, but there is no need to top up with oil in-between regular oil changes. When I cleaned it, as shown in the video, there is only a film, rather than pooled oil inside. Hope this makes sense.
@@moremolecules I hear that worn injectors can INCREASE the amount of oil. Skewing oil check results. But how much oil ends up in your oil catch can?
@@Deontjie Not too sure what you meant by worn injectors and skewing oil check results. Overall the oil that ends in the intercooler will be from the sump oil. If the injectors are that bad that spew oil from them, then that has to looked at. I have only emptied the oil catch can twice, so not too much observation how much oil ends in it. It has a bit of oil inside and last time I checked it was fair amount. My hose only captures ~60ml of fluid, so I suspect that ~10-15ml is oil. The other thing is that the turbo can leak a bit of oil in the intercooler on the turbine side. Mine leaks a bit, which goes with the air in the intercooler.
@@moremolecules It is now 22:24 here in Cape Town. Excess fuel from worn fuel injectors can contaminate the engine oil. And increase the amount of oil. Or so I have heard. All I want is to restore the lost power in my 150,000 km VW T3.
@@Deontjie Hmm, generally worn injectors can potentially contaminate the oil, but they are very volatile, so they will evaporate quite quickly and get burned off. I am not 100% certain, but this would not really increase the amount of oil in the sump, i.e. if you check the dipstick. Cleaning the intercooler would certainly give you some power back, depending on how oily it was to begin with. A secret though, change the gearbox oil, this certainly restores quite a bit of power and decreases fuel consumption.
After the intercooler where does the hot air go?
After the intercooler the air is colder and it goes into the air doser. The air doser has a butterfly valve that adjusts the air flow. That also needs cleaning from time to time.
@@moremolecules My 1.6 hdi is making tapping noise in line with the RPMs. The sound comes from between the doser and the high-pressure fuel pump. Engine start is sometimes very rough, and tapping noise is usually not there in the beginning and it always comes after a few minutes driving, mainly when the engine is already hot. Sometimes after I park the car and shut off the engine, a few seconds later I hear something that resembles a valve moving into place, like if it was left stuck for a moment. When that happens the car was making tapping noises when running. Can this be a bad air doser, or high fuel pressure pump with a valve partially stuck? Can it be the vacuum pressure pump, and the turbo geometry valve is partially stuck? If I rev the engine hard enough it stays normal for a couple of minutes with no tapping noise. The car is like this for almost a year, the dealer couldn't figure out the problem and usually, I am the one fixing my car, but this time I am not finding the solution.
@@carlosmonteiro8616 Could an injector be making "chuffing" noises? Have a listen at the injectors, sometimes a screwdriver next to each of them and listen on it (ear on the screwdriver) might help with tapping/chuffing noises. It could be a belt pulley/tensioner. It is a bit hard to say anything without trying different things. When you switch off, the EGR will be heard closing. Hope you find the tapping sound. I have something similar, but it is most likely noisy belt pulley/tensioner, which I will have to replace sometime.
@@moremolecules Belt pulley/tensioner has been changed one and half year ago. Can it be bad timing? I have the care since 2008 and I have never heard the EGR valve close, the sound of something (possibly a valve closing) that I hear now it isn't normal and happens just not very often but always when tapping just occurred right before I turn off the engine. It is very audible. The best way I can describe the sound it does is similar to the sound of the windshield electric water pump, pumping on dry. If I disconnect the EGR plug and go drive when I turn off the engine and plug it back in will the error go away or I need a computer to reset de errors on ECU? (I can do that with MAF, but don't know if I can do it with EGR.) Thank you
@@carlosmonteiro8616 You can disconnect the EGR, but it will throw an error, sometimes (depending on model) you can get EML to turn on. When you plug it back in the error will stay, but it is a temporary error. It can be cleared with a cheap OBDII scanner. Could it be power steering pump?
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Whats the name of that plastic tube you tipped up in the air at first, but eventually took completely of? Between the Intercooler tube and the turbo.
And why didnt you clean that part too? 😊
Hi Mie, the plastic pipe is called "intake air resonator". I did not clean it as it is generally pretty clean. In general the oil vapor condenses in the intercooler, rather than this pipe. I should have probably cleaned it as well.
Thanks 😊
I used petrol and then clean it so hot water and wash yup liquid
Yep, petrol is a good solvent.
aceton on plastic ?...
Hi Fraizer, the plastic is very hard on the intercooler and I keep it for not so long to dissolve it. It also depends on the type of plastic material. The actual acetone came in a plastic bottle. It is very good oil solvent.
if i am not worng is ABS who is petrolium plastic. it eat the plastic. yes is thick you are right but what happen between the aluminum and plastic and there is too a join between them ? why dont you use gasoline ? or an strongre degreaser ? :) about eating plastic when acetone start to disolv the plasti it make it soft like chweengum. for me the only good point of the acetone is to make it evaporate very fast. at 60°c it come gaz and evaporate
@@fraizer2600 It could be ABS, not too sure. In hindsight and that you have mentioned it, I should have probably used petrol or something else. I was probably lucky, nothing was dissolved and the plastic did not change at all.
Hello, I guess, there is not sense to clean the intercooler when didnt broke anything in turbo before.... there isnot any demonstrable waste of power due to less oil.....
Hi chromance, not entirely true. With time the crankcase breather oily vapor and turbo seepage will condense in the intercooler as oily film. This oily film will reduce the efficiency of the intercooler, thereby it will not sufficiently cool the compressed (hot) air from the turbo and you get loss in power/consumption due to loss in compression ability, i.e. cold air is denser than hot air. I cannot measure the addition of power/decreased consumption, as getting on a dyno is too expensive for me, but should be an increase in power.
@@moremolecules yeppp, aprox -0.xx HP
Do the car pull better after your cleaned the intercooler😃
To be honest, I did not really noticed any significant difference. Maybe there was something for awhile, but it was fairly minimal. I thought it was going to be significantly better, but not much. I suspect it depends on how much oily film is there to begin with. If there is much, it will make a difference.
Did I really see you use your torque wrench as a ratchet !
Hahaha, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. In other words, I know I should not do that, but sometimes it is so much more convenient to just ratchet with the torque wrench, rather than change and use another wrench. I absolutely know that this should not be done :-) Well noticed and caught. My fault completely.
At Peugeot Partner / Citroën Berlingo 1.6 HDI with climate control, it´s not possible to take the intercooler out from under, I removed the coolant radiator and will give it a try like that way, otherwise the total front of the car :-((( must be released
Hi Jacobs, it is possible that it cannot be taken out from under the car. Unfortunately, I do not have one with climate control and cannot quite comment. If it does not work with the radiator removed, the front bumper is not that difficult to remove. Good luck
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Acetone and plastic.... hmm
Thanks for the comment vince. I agree, in a hindsight, should have used petrol or something else. It looked like ABS plastic and is pretty hard and did not dissolve it, but you are correct should have been say petrol and not acetone.
Coca cola and then soappy water let it dry and walla
Yeah, since this video I simply use dishwashing liquid, safer and does the same job.
You did all that work for nothing within a day it would have been back to the same way it was all that crap would have been sitting at the bottom and wouldn’t have moved
Hi Robert, while I agree that it will return to being dirty again with use of the car, the stuff at the bottom will have moved through use of solvent.
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