Hey Ryland, you mentioned that every church should have the two most basic shots for their stream and it got me thinking: is there any way you could potentially put together a video for a most basic web stream setup? I'm working with a church of barely 100 people and have only two cameras at my disposal - a Canon camcorder tripod mounted in the back of the sanctuary for an establishing shot, and a remote iPhone upfront for a side angle. I feel that we could do better, but would love any advice. Even if you don't have time to put together a video, Id love it if we could connect through messaging. You're an awesome dude and I appreciate everything you do for the kingdom.
I enjoyed. Kenyan Church photographer using nikon D3500 and Canon eos 2000d and learning we need much to learn and improvise. Mostly .... the narrow shot if it exists. Recordings are for sermons but with such knowledge, looking Forward to expansion by the Grace of God. Baraka
Hello Ryland, question for you. If we are running HDMI cables to our cameras from the ATEM switchers. What HDMI brands do you recommend? Could we acquire any on Amazon or are we looking for specific requirements to give us the best quality when we run 1080p! 🙏🏽
Thanks for the great video and awesome suggestions. The next angle I want to try is the side profile stage angle. Our church is more traditional and conservative in approach so I can’t have camera ops on stage but I’m hoping to achieve this and some POV angles with some new PTZ cameras soon. I’m looking at the new PTZ Optics 4K Move.
I’m just a volunteer on camera . I love it but I don’t know all the angles and the best way to use the camera. I’m only on weekends but I know there is more to make our live stream more interesting and feel like they are there… any help would be 😊
Just picked up two new cameras and wireless transmitters to add to our current 2 camera setup. Love your motorized slider shot behind the drums so I’ll probably try that and maybe a down low shot. Not sure where the second will end up yet but excited to try some of these out. Thanks for your hard work Ryland!
So we are upgrading from a cell phone to a black magic pocket 4k. I just don't know what lens to get. The cell phone is terrible.... and we will address lighting issues after we buy the camera and lens. The camera will be 60 feet from the stage. Can you recommend a lens in the $500-$800 range for that distance? We would like a wide-angle view for worship and a more zoomed in for preaching.
We have them sitting on our FOH wall, which is above everyone's head. We do not have that band disabled, i will reach out to our IT guy to have it disabled. @@RylandRussell
You may have said it in one of your videos but what is your streaming setup from when it leaves your video switcher until it reaches its online destination? And if you've covered that already, I'd love to see that video. Thanks.
My church, Hoboken Grace, just moved into our own building and I am taking in as much as I can with these tips to let my cam ops know some angles we can use in the space. I might be able to convince our pastor to look at getting a cable cam also watching this video lol. As the Director/Switcher of my church, these videos have been amazing for me and my team. Thank you!
Ah... "includes this automatic paralaxing effect.." I think you meant to say that it includes a way to "automatically pan" the camera. Paralax is what a slider gives you - it shows the foreground moving faster than the background. But good stuff.. I recently changed churches because I served on the media team for over 2 years and no-one would listen to me in terms of doing things better. Simple things like - the establishing shot you mentioned! Or when handheld get as close to the subject as possible at the shortest lens length (widest) as possible to reduce jarring handheld movement that produces a feeling of anxiety in the viewer (which is why action movies and such use heavy handheld techniques.) Etc. etc. The team was largely in their early 20's where I'm in my 50's and I've been doing video work since I can remember, but professionally since I worked out in LA in the early 90's. Still would not listen to anything I had to say. I pray for them though..
@@puppet022 thanks. Yes, I went through that thought process and checked myself. Changed a couple things and made sure I was not being confrontational or overbearing or critical. It is what it is at this point. Funny thing though, my daughter is friends with the head Pastors daughter and has apparently told her about my experiences and how their live stream is so... unprofessional looking. I have a feeling they will buy all new gear and see that the problem still exists before anything changes. The kids in that ministry have been explaining the issues are due to old equipment. But me, I'm involved in my new churches media team already, much more so than my old church after 2 + years of serving. I've been able to a few suggestions and felt like I was heard.
Ive loved your cable cam from you first released the video. Ive spent many hours trying to work out where I could put a cable cam in our auditorium, but alas, I don’t think it can be done!!! I just have to be content watching the awesome shots your cable cam gives you.!!!
What video switcher do you use? We currently have the BMD ATEM 1 ME and are looking for something that will allow 1080p60 fromn the wireless transmitters. The ATEM 1me does not accept 1080p60
I’m pretty sure even the older ATEM can to 1080p at 59.94. What wireless transmitters are you using? Hollyland sometimes rounds the frame rate so it won’t show in the atem.
@@RylandRussell yes, the ATEM can do 1080p 59.94, but will not SEE 1080p60. I have an older Hollyland COSMO that does transmit 59.94 but the newer mars 400 and the new cosmo c1 only do 1080p 60 even if the cameras are set to 59.94. I may have to resort to a decimation signal converter…..
Side angle is where we are trying to move to next since we currently have 3 "straight forward" camera views. The wireless tech is a big investment especially since we would want to go with TeraDek, so for now we are toying with the having another PTZ mounted on the side wall. Thanks for the great tips!
@@RylandRussell Thanks for the reply. I'm thinking about a used G85 and a 35-100 IOS for handheld. I've been using an EOS-R and 70-200 f2.8 IS and it is a bit heavy and more expensive.
Hi. Some great ideas here, but you seemed to have missed the most-used shot on TV and live streaming, which is the Mid Shot. This shot is from the waist up of the worship leader, preacher etc and is the mainstay of talk shows, news broadcasts etc. For preachers, this may also mean the operator needs to pan with them as they walk up and down. Be good to add this to the video.
Whoops - missed that completely. I was expecting it to be one of angles you covered with a caption, etc. After you covered the wide-shot, I saw the MS as the next logical one. I think it needs more detailed coverage. Apologies.
Thank you again for a great video. We are upgrading our cameras this year and your videos are super helpful. We were using a wireless MEVO camera for a side angle until we just couldn't get it to work right. There was always some freezing of the image, the lagging, and sometimes it just quit working during the middle of the show. My next video is about the budget wireless options.
You said it BEST… “Not feeling like a fly on the wall!!!” We should be extremely mindful to bring the viewer into the “space” of the service!!! 💚
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“The opposite of when summit integrators installs your system” #ratsnest 😂
❤ loved your video! I followed your link to the cable cam setup & it looks unavailable now. Do you have similar recommendations?
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Had to watch this again! It’s THAT good! Thanks a BUNCH! 🎉
Hey Ryland, you mentioned that every church should have the two most basic shots for their stream and it got me thinking: is there any way you could potentially put together a video for a most basic web stream setup? I'm working with a church of barely 100 people and have only two cameras at my disposal - a Canon camcorder tripod mounted in the back of the sanctuary for an establishing shot, and a remote iPhone upfront for a side angle. I feel that we could do better, but would love any advice. Even if you don't have time to put together a video, Id love it if we could connect through messaging. You're an awesome dude and I appreciate everything you do for the kingdom.
That’s a good idea. If your canon camcorder is manned and you can bounce back and forth between different zoom shots that would be good.
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I enjoyed. Kenyan Church photographer using nikon D3500 and Canon eos 2000d and learning we need much to learn and improvise.
Mostly .... the narrow shot if it exists. Recordings are for sermons but with such knowledge, looking Forward to expansion by the Grace of God. Baraka
There are alot to this video coverage thing...
God help me...
Really liked the going Dutch, perhaps the chaos can be showcased through the picture🤣
THank you for the video.
For Number 5, Can I have the link for the material?
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Hello Ryland, question for you. If we are running HDMI cables to our cameras from the ATEM switchers. What HDMI brands do you recommend? Could we acquire any on Amazon or are we looking for specific requirements to give us the best quality when we run 1080p! 🙏🏽
I’ve had good luck with these. amzn.to/3RZNUbG lots of length options too.
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Dutch angles
This was excellent.
I am a camera operator at my church in Indianapolis and can't wait to try these out!
Great shot list!
Thanks for the great video and awesome suggestions. The next angle I want to try is the side profile stage angle. Our church is more traditional and conservative in approach so I can’t have camera ops on stage but I’m hoping to achieve this and some POV angles with some new PTZ cameras soon. I’m looking at the new PTZ Optics 4K Move.
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This is really great information. I found it as I am about to teach a class on livestream. This was helpful for me. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
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I’m just a volunteer on camera . I love it but I don’t know all the angles and the best way to use the camera. I’m only on weekends but I know there is more to make our live stream more interesting and feel like they are there… any help would be 😊
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I’m most interested in trying the side profile angle with our musicians!
Just picked up two new cameras and wireless transmitters to add to our current 2 camera setup. Love your motorized slider shot behind the drums so I’ll probably try that and maybe a down low shot. Not sure where the second will end up yet but excited to try some of these out. Thanks for your hard work Ryland!
Nice! What cams did you get?
Do you have a link to the wire cam? 😊
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I think I'm gonna try a low shot for this Good Friday 🤩, Thanks for the ideas!
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So we are upgrading from a cell phone to a black magic pocket 4k. I just don't know what lens to get. The cell phone is terrible.... and we will address lighting issues after we buy the camera and lens. The camera will be 60 feet from the stage. Can you recommend a lens in the $500-$800 range for that distance? We would like a wide-angle view for worship and a more zoomed in for preaching.
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That may not be wide enough. Depends on your stage. Download the app Cadrage to test lenses with your phone.
@@RylandRussell I'll have to borrow an iPhone lol.
Lol I seen the jean jacket…you must be a youth pastor lol.
Will the motorized slider work for the Canon G50? If not, do you know one that will?
Yep I believe it should have no problem with that.
@@RylandRussell thanks for the replying. In order to get this to stand upright, do I need to purchase other cameras stand?
do you have trouble with connection on the TeraDeks? ours continue to go out during our sunday morning gatherings
Do you have the receivers up high? Do you have 5ghz disabled on WiFi routers? Those two things solved our issues. Ours are very stable.
We have them sitting on our FOH wall, which is above everyone's head. We do not have that band disabled, i will reach out to our IT guy to have it disabled. @@RylandRussell
i cable cam I something i will like to try out
Ive been wanting is kind of angle 8:12
Such a blessed video, thank you; helped so much 😀
At my Church I have the side stage angle.
Very interested in trying a Dutch angle in my next stream! Thanks for this video
I'm running the low shot
These ten views are amazing.
You may have said it in one of your videos but what is your streaming setup from when it leaves your video switcher until it reaches its online destination? And if you've covered that already, I'd love to see that video. Thanks.
It goes out of our ATEM 2me to a hyperdeck mini, then to our web presenter hd, off to restream.
What Teradek wireless transmitters are you using? Can't see them in the video description
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this is awesome, now how can i do this on a budget? also whats your thoughts about Blackmagic 4k and ATEM system?
Checkout my video about building a budget friendly broadcast system.
4:48 Man, that looks sweet. So smooth.
My church, Hoboken Grace, just moved into our own building and I am taking in as much as I can with these tips to let my cam ops know some angles we can use in the space. I might be able to convince our pastor to look at getting a cable cam also watching this video lol. As the Director/Switcher of my church, these videos have been amazing for me and my team. Thank you!
That is awesome! Best of luck in the new space.
Ah... "includes this automatic paralaxing effect.." I think you meant to say that it includes a way to "automatically pan" the camera. Paralax is what a slider gives you - it shows the foreground moving faster than the background. But good stuff.. I recently changed churches because I served on the media team for over 2 years and no-one would listen to me in terms of doing things better. Simple things like - the establishing shot you mentioned! Or when handheld get as close to the subject as possible at the shortest lens length (widest) as possible to reduce jarring handheld movement that produces a feeling of anxiety in the viewer (which is why action movies and such use heavy handheld techniques.) Etc. etc. The team was largely in their early 20's where I'm in my 50's and I've been doing video work since I can remember, but professionally since I worked out in LA in the early 90's. Still would not listen to anything I had to say. I pray for them though..
When this happens to me (also), I ask myself, "Who am I being/not being in this conversation that is keeping me from being heard?"
@@puppet022 thanks. Yes, I went through that thought process and checked myself. Changed a couple things and made sure I was not being confrontational or overbearing or critical. It is what it is at this point. Funny thing though, my daughter is friends with the head Pastors daughter and has apparently told her about my experiences and how their live stream is so... unprofessional looking. I have a feeling they will buy all new gear and see that the problem still exists before anything changes. The kids in that ministry have been explaining the issues are due to old equipment. But me, I'm involved in my new churches media team already, much more so than my old church after 2 + years of serving. I've been able to a few suggestions and felt like I was heard.
Thx it help us a lot
Hi, im wondering how can you guys communicate with cameraman?
Made a couple vids but link in the description of this one. ruclips.net/video/dOgjqeMkDJ4/видео.html
Great angle in camera angle
DUTCH ANGLE
Ive loved your cable cam from you first released the video. Ive spent many hours trying to work out where I could put a cable cam in our auditorium, but alas, I don’t think it can be done!!! I just have to be content watching the awesome shots your cable cam gives you.!!!
Thanks Andrew! Ya it’s not a fit for every space.
What video switcher do you use? We currently have the BMD ATEM 1 ME and are looking for something that will allow 1080p60 fromn the wireless transmitters. The ATEM 1me does not accept 1080p60
I’m pretty sure even the older ATEM can to 1080p at 59.94. What wireless transmitters are you using? Hollyland sometimes rounds the frame rate so it won’t show in the atem.
@@RylandRussell yes, the ATEM can do 1080p 59.94, but will not SEE 1080p60.
I have an older Hollyland COSMO that does transmit 59.94 but the newer mars 400 and the new cosmo c1 only do 1080p 60 even if the cameras are set to 59.94.
I may have to resort to a decimation signal converter…..
How many cameras and how is the control of them resourced?
8 cams. Here is a breakdown. ruclips.net/video/aWJNmw8O5qY/видео.html
2:10 what is that and where can I get some!? For real awesome video sir, hats off.
Ha! It’s actually just glitter on the drum heads. LED lighting from underneath.
Awesome video thank you for sharing this!!
Thanks! Glad you found value in it.
Great video!
Side angle is where we are trying to move to next since we currently have 3 "straight forward" camera views. The wireless tech is a big investment especially since we would want to go with TeraDek, so for now we are toying with the having another PTZ mounted on the side wall. Thanks for the great tips!
Awesome. Thank you for sharing.
You are so welcome James. Thanks for watching!
Do you think that you could us a mix of Panasonic and Canon in your livestream and get a reasonably matching result?
Yes you can get most modern cameras decently close to where it’s not jarring.
@@RylandRussell Thanks for the reply. I'm thinking about a used G85 and a 35-100 IOS for handheld. I've been using an EOS-R and 70-200 f2.8 IS and it is a bit heavy and more expensive.
Hi. Some great ideas here, but you seemed to have missed the most-used shot on TV and live streaming, which is the Mid Shot. This shot is from the waist up of the worship leader, preacher etc and is the mainstay of talk shows, news broadcasts etc. For preachers, this may also mean the operator needs to pan with them as they walk up and down. Be good to add this to the video.
That’s the shot I’m mentioning at :46
Whoops - missed that completely. I was expecting it to be one of angles you covered with a caption, etc. After you covered the wide-shot, I saw the MS as the next logical one. I think it needs more detailed coverage. Apologies.
Do you use one camera for both the head to toe and waist up or do you use a camera for each angle?
Dare you to use the first shot on Sunday 🤠🤠
But for real.. great tips here 🤙🏼
😂 it’d get peoples attention I suppose!
Thank you again for a great video. We are upgrading our cameras this year and your videos are super helpful.
We were using a wireless MEVO camera for a side angle until we just couldn't get it to work right. There was always some freezing of the image, the lagging, and sometimes it just quit working during the middle of the show. My next video is about the budget wireless options.
The wide shot is the first shot i setup lol