Thank you very much for this. Really enjoyed it. I'm starting to improve our church cameras as well. I believe I'll be using the m43rds system as well. I currently have the g85 with the 45 to 150mm lens, but it isn't fast enough for our lighting conditions. I'm not a fan of shooting at 6400 iso. So I'm waiting to purchase the Canon 70-200mm with a speed booster to adapt to it.
I am the Worship Director, drummer, tech director etc at my church. This is not a camera question... Can you do a video on how you built your crosses with the led tape on your stage? I watch your video's very often. Thank you I've learned a lot.
YES! Killing it! Just want you to know, I've been sending your content to our production team and our whole team has been growing in skills and heart because of your work! Keep it coming!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. We are a small music venue in the heart of the Ozark Mountains. We're looking to increase our production quality. Your videos have been very helpful.
Your older video like this was one of the gems I relied on when getting our church setup for live streaming a year ago, and this followup is also excellent. Thank you, thank you, thank you. We went with Canon camcorder style cameras basical so we would have parfocal lenses to give our tripod cameras some movement, but the image coming out of the camera just isn't where I wish it was. Just got our own GVM slider 2 weeks ago to put on the drums and its awesome! Also I also highly recommend the Eartec Ultralites as well.
Really appreciate you opening up and showing us the setup. Lots of good info and straight to the point. Thanks for the time, effort, and post production done to make this happen.
While you were talking about the cameras around 4:07 I said why don't you get a PTZ and then you said "Don't get a PTZ Cam". I said "Are you reading my mind?" I still think a PTZ save you a lot of head count.
As someone trying to get our church service stream to the next level, I really appreciate the detail you have provided. What I'm struggling with right now is getting some smooth pulls and pushes into our shots. I'm running Canon EOS R's (got 4). Everything is manual zoom. I'm switching on a BM ATEM Pro. Our shots look pretty good but we have no interesting movement. My setup is 3 cameras to the rear of the room, one to the left that I use to hop around to different subjects, a center shot that I keep on lead singer and a wide. I have one more camera that is on stage to the right that I use to get some profile shots and close ups for keys and guitars. I'm told that going with different camera models is not recommended so I'm struggling to figure out how to get smooth reliable and professional looking zoom movement shot with my current cameras or what kind of camera and setup would I need?
Hey Shawn, Canon EOS R's will give you great images but smooth zooming is not going to be easy. If you REALLY need smooth slow zooms you are better off going with a camcorder like this amzn.to/42rf4Li paired with a handle remote zoom controller. OR add gears to the lenses and use a zoom/focus system like tilta nucleus or this one amzn.to/3ptvd3V
@@RylandRussell they are good when the lighting conditions are good suitable, I used to work on a TV channel which had an entire studio room with like 8 cameras and each of them was PTZ
Crazy setup on the budget. There are some limitations against real broadcast systems like the lack of CCUs, blackmagic cameras can give you that functionality for cheap. But it's ingenious!
Nice informative video. I have two questions if you can answer: 1. How is your lighting? 2. Which lens would you recommend for a center follow/wide shot 80ft away with a 20x9 led wall behind the subject?
350? That looks like a lot more that that. Always thought 350 was pretty tiny, but the church iw as going to was only 125 on a good day. Good for you with the shoe string budget to get this setup.
Hey bro this is an amazing setup. I subbed and liked . I am big fan of Panasonic Lumix cameras as well and I think they very budget friendly and they deliver amazing results. Keep it up
Hey man I absolutely love the videos and the sound quality of your stream is great. QUICK QUESTION. What speakers are you using on the steps of the stage. I'm looking for some speakers like those that are small frame but have great sound.
Great video with lots of useful ideas. Our church is in the process of buying their first cameras and streaming equipment. Up until this point we have been using borrowed equipment. Would love an in depth look at your center u-built pole mount. We are looking at the same kind of idea. A traditional tripod takes up way too much floor space for where we need to locate it. Thanks for all the inspiration.
Amazing video. Perfect marriage of excellence and budget. Ifyou were about to buy cameras for a setup like yours would you buy all the same cameras the same (example: all g7) or would you suggest doing a mixture like you have?
Thanks Brandon. I'm a big fan of the Lumix cams that have sensor stabilization like the g85 and gh5. They are great for sliders and handheld as they reduce micro jitters. But for locked off set shots the g7 is great as well! Gh4 allows you to record while outputting over HDMI as the g7 does not. So there are some variables there to consider.
Awesome setup - thanks for sharing Ryland! Question, on the output from those Panasonic cameras, any delay on the HDMI output? Do you have to setup audio delay as well?
Good information for sure. We average around 140 or so. I would like to invest in another camera or two for our live stream, but not sure how much leadership would want to spend. We currently have one starter Canon r800 and just started live streaming last year like a lot of churches. I have heard IP cameras are where camera tech is going, but noticed you mentioned NOT getting a PTZ camera. Should I stick to the SDI and HDMI way, or go for the IP?
IMO the smaller sensors on most ptl cameras puts out an inferior picture. Also I’m a fan of my cameras being able to be used for interviews and event b roll and a ptz has one use case. Thanks Matthew!
Not at all. I don’t have the need for the services they offer at this point and with them being bought by pushpay that worries me. Between our web presenter hd and Restream I have a yearly cost of $250 and the upfront cost of the web presenter at $500. If you have a decent internet connection I think Resi is overrated.
I Ryland! My name is Brittany Masters. I lead worship in Chouteau, OK. I have a few questions - Looking to add a second camera to our Livestream. I am against the PZT cameras as well, but have very little camera knowledge. Do you have any unmanned cameras? We only have one camera man right now, but our livestream looks so boring, lol. Thanks
Hi, thanks for the great vid. I appreciate your channel very much. I'm just wondering how you matched the cameras? We are still figuring out how to match our GH5s and GH4. Tried different settings with the color profiles, but there are still very noticeable differences.
We just attached another high hat riser to the wood box. It’s ok but still gets vibrations from people in the booth. The pan bar is just a piece of conduit I cut and attached 😀
Thanks for the video Ryland! Out of all your cameras, If i wanted to add maybe two cameras that i can pick up used for a good price what would be your recommendation? Maybe a wide shot camera, and a roaming or side shot? Thanks!
@@timjohnson3060 for that budget you are looking for used g7 or Gh4 on marketplace or ebay. Roaming wireless setup would eat into a lot of that budget alone. For sure get good glass.
@@RylandRussell Thanks Ryland! Found a G7 for a good price. Can they natively output 1080 29.97 or do you have to run them through a decemator? Thanks man!
I may have missed it, but do you have a tutorial on how to hook up the ATEM for livestream, in person screens, and the computer with Pro Presenter? Looking for a good resource to help put all the pieces together.
I’ve been unimpressed by their image quality. Also, for most churches having a camera that can be taken and used other places (interviews, location filming, etc) is very valuable. I can’t justify spending 5k to get a really good ptz and it be locked down to one job.
Hello. Love your setup. We have the same cameras. Is it possible to get your camera settings. We are in an auditorium and cameras are about 65 ft away also! Thanks in advance
Hey Ryland, what projector model are you using for the big main screen? I ask because I’m trying to nail down what features are needed to eliminate flickering when using cmos sensors. We’re about due to start replacing our projector (10 years old) and it looks like you don’t have the issue we have.
Just depends on if you are thinking about getting a new atem. If not then ya it’s great. If getting a new switcher might as well use the built in encoder maybe. We have really liked ours.
Can you confirm that G7 can easily switch HDMI output resolution/framerate just like GH4/GH5 can? Because I got a GH3 hoping it can do the same, but found out it is only outputing through HDMI an interlaced signal at 50fps no matter what shooting resolution/framerate I set. Now I'm looking to get a decimator to bring the framerate to a usable one and am afraid to make the same mistake with G7 in case it does the same. In your original video you mentioned that you are using decimators to bring the framerates to the same standard. In this video you only mention you are using decimators for computers. So, can you confirm that G7 has a changeable HDMi output framerate without a need for decimator. As long as we can get a progressive output at 25 or 30fps we're fine.
I wouldnt use this setup for IMAG. By sending your first camera feed into the second atem you are adding latency. If needing true IMAG I’d go one switcher.
I'm having an issue getting the DVX200 to output 1080p 29.97 with the ATEM TV Studio HD. Works fine at 59.94. Any chance you could share your settings for outputting at 1080p 29.97? I just keep getting a blank screen on the ATEM just with this camera.
@@RylandRussell Thanks, yeah I went through the menu several times and thought I had changed everything, but still blank, I remembered this video you posted, so went back to confirm it worked fo you. It's been running on 1080i 59.94 for a while, but I just located another camera to add into the mix and 1080p 29.97 seems to be what all of the cameras can "agree" on. If you think of an obscure setting I might have missed, let me know. 🙂
If you want MFT sensor with servo ability and sdi output I'd probably go ahead and look at the BM Studio Pro G2 bhpho.to/45YUNy8 and pair it with the zoom demand and the Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 45-175mm f/4-5.6 ASPH lens. The dvx200 is at f4.5 once you get past 80mm so the 5.6 is not too terribly past that. 45 is not very wide though.
They do not do that. And the only one with limitations is the g7. You cannot record onto the sd card and output over hdmi simultaneously on it. The rest of the ones I mentioned have no limits.
Thank you first and foremost for serving the Lord Jesus and other brethren. I may ask for a genuine consultation before I purchase 3- 4k PTZ cameras and OBS on a Dell Alienware (streaming) on NDI. Thanks and to God be the glory.
@@RylandRussell Have you ever had issues where the camera will flicker on and off on the switcher? We've been having a lot of issues with our setup, which is nearly identical to yours. We're using GH5 and G85 cameras all using blackmagic micro converters. It's been really frustrating, and I'm not sure what else to do
“Don’t get a PTZ cam…just don’t”. Best line of the video lol
Vídeo incrível, um sonho ter algo assim na minha igreja! Abraços 🇧🇷
Thank you very much for this. Really enjoyed it. I'm starting to improve our church cameras as well. I believe I'll be using the m43rds system as well. I currently have the g85 with the 45 to 150mm lens, but it isn't fast enough for our lighting conditions. I'm not a fan of shooting at 6400 iso. So I'm waiting to purchase the Canon 70-200mm with a speed booster to adapt to it.
This is absolutely the best video on live streaming - well done and god bless!
Thanks so much!
I am the Worship Director, drummer, tech director etc at my church. This is not a camera question... Can you do a video on how you built your crosses with the led tape on your stage? I watch your video's very often. Thank you I've learned a lot.
YES! Killing it! Just want you to know, I've been sending your content to our production team and our whole team has been growing in skills and heart because of your work! Keep it coming!
That is so encouraging to hear. Thank you!
This is the video I’ve been looking for thanks brother 🙌🏻
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. We are a small music venue in the heart of the Ozark Mountains. We're looking to increase our production quality. Your videos have been very helpful.
Thank you. I appreciate you. Peace&Blessings
This should have millions of views!
I wouldn’t say no to that 😀
Thank you so much, I will love to have such a set up at our church.
You’re welcome!
Cool setup man! Creative and budget friendly. We’re a church of about 100 and planted two years ago so this is def inspiring!
Awesome! Thanks Jorge, blessings to your ministry. 100 after two years is great growth.
@@RylandRussell thanks man! Trying to spread the good news of Jesus.
Damn! I love your video production. I love this channel!🥰
Your older video like this was one of the gems I relied on when getting our church setup for live streaming a year ago, and this followup is also excellent. Thank you, thank you, thank you. We went with Canon camcorder style cameras basical so we would have parfocal lenses to give our tripod cameras some movement, but the image coming out of the camera just isn't where I wish it was. Just got our own GVM slider 2 weeks ago to put on the drums and its awesome! Also I also highly recommend the Eartec Ultralites as well.
That’s awesome to hear! Thanks Peter!
Really appreciate you opening up and showing us the setup. Lots of good info and straight to the point. Thanks for the time, effort, and post production done to make this happen.
Thanks so much for the encouragement James 😀
Thanks for sharing all you've set up!
While you were talking about the cameras around 4:07 I said why don't you get a PTZ and then you said "Don't get a PTZ Cam". I said "Are you reading my mind?" I still think a PTZ save you a lot of head count.
Lol! Ptz have there places but I think there are better options for the money IMO 👍🏻
Great, great, great. Thank You very much!!
nice work. thanks for making this video. the services look great and are very impressive for that low of budget.
Thanks Jerry, I really appreciate it!
As someone trying to get our church service stream to the next level, I really appreciate the detail you have provided. What I'm struggling with right now is getting some smooth pulls and pushes into our shots. I'm running Canon EOS R's (got 4). Everything is manual zoom. I'm switching on a BM ATEM Pro. Our shots look pretty good but we have no interesting movement. My setup is 3 cameras to the rear of the room, one to the left that I use to hop around to different subjects, a center shot that I keep on lead singer and a wide. I have one more camera that is on stage to the right that I use to get some profile shots and close ups for keys and guitars. I'm told that going with different camera models is not recommended so I'm struggling to figure out how to get smooth reliable and professional looking zoom movement shot with my current cameras or what kind of camera and setup would I need?
Hey Shawn, Canon EOS R's will give you great images but smooth zooming is not going to be easy. If you REALLY need smooth slow zooms you are better off going with a camcorder like this amzn.to/42rf4Li paired with a handle remote zoom controller. OR add gears to the lenses and use a zoom/focus system like tilta nucleus or this one amzn.to/3ptvd3V
My church recently invested in PTZ cams. It's sad, those little sensors just can't keep up, our image is grainy. Love your setup btw.
Thanks! Ya ptz are unique and functional but I just haven’t seen one I love the image out of.
@@RylandRussell they are good when the lighting conditions are good suitable, I used to work on a TV channel which had an entire studio room with like 8 cameras and each of them was PTZ
Crazy setup on the budget. There are some limitations against real broadcast systems like the lack of CCUs, blackmagic cameras can give you that functionality for cheap. But it's ingenious!
Nice informative video. I have two questions if you can answer:
1. How is your lighting?
2. Which lens would you recommend for a center follow/wide shot 80ft away with a 20x9 led wall behind the subject?
350? That looks like a lot more that that. Always thought 350 was pretty tiny, but the church iw as going to was only 125 on a good day. Good for you with the shoe string budget to get this setup.
Very Inspirational!
So glad you found it inspiring! :)
Hey bro this is an amazing setup. I subbed and liked . I am big fan of Panasonic Lumix cameras as well and I think they very budget friendly and they deliver amazing results. Keep it up
Thanks a bunch!
Solid vid man!
Thanks Weston!
Super helpful video!!!! ✌️ Thanks for the time you took to share this with us.
Very helpful, thanks for making this
Amazing content, I think I'm going to adopt a few of this. These are so useful, thank you ❤️
Hey man I absolutely love the videos and the sound quality of your stream is great. QUICK QUESTION. What speakers are you using on the steps of the stage. I'm looking for some speakers like those that are small frame but have great sound.
Thanks! Our sound system is an EV system. Those front fills are the EV 1062-95
Great video with lots of useful ideas. Our church is in the process of buying their first cameras and streaming equipment. Up until this point we have been using borrowed equipment.
Would love an in depth look at your center u-built pole mount. We are looking at the same kind of idea. A traditional tripod takes up way too much floor space for where we need to locate it.
Thanks for all the inspiration.
Greetings friends Very good video the HDMI output of the camera is clean and what continuous electricity system do you use for the g7
Hey there! I use this dummy battery and it works great. amzn.to/3CtGBOg
Dude you’ve been cranking out the videos recently! Keep it up 🙌🏼
Nice setup
Awesome Content man!
Thanks!
@@RylandRussell Where did you get your lower thrids for worship?
@@MrFolder40 like the lyrics? I’m going to do a video on that soon. It’s a customized font.
Amazing video. Perfect marriage of excellence and budget. Ifyou were about to buy cameras for a setup like yours would you buy all the same cameras the same (example: all g7) or would you suggest doing a mixture like you have?
Thanks Brandon. I'm a big fan of the Lumix cams that have sensor stabilization like the g85 and gh5. They are great for sliders and handheld as they reduce micro jitters. But for locked off set shots the g7 is great as well! Gh4 allows you to record while outputting over HDMI as the g7 does not. So there are some variables there to consider.
Thanks so much for tNice tutorials video, it helped so much!
You're very welcome!
Great video!
Thanks Felipe!
Awesome setup - thanks for sharing Ryland! Question, on the output from those Panasonic cameras, any delay on the HDMI output? Do you have to setup audio delay as well?
Thanks! 2 frames I believe for us. Yes we delay audio at the soundboard.
Good information for sure. We average around 140 or so. I would like to invest in another camera or two for our live stream, but not sure how much leadership would want to spend. We currently have one starter Canon r800 and just started live streaming last year like a lot of churches. I have heard IP cameras are where camera tech is going, but noticed you mentioned NOT getting a PTZ camera. Should I stick to the SDI and HDMI way, or go for the IP?
IMO the smaller sensors on most ptl cameras puts out an inferior picture. Also I’m a fan of my cameras being able to be used for interviews and event b roll and a ptz has one use case. Thanks Matthew!
Have you thought about using Resi for encoding?
Not at all. I don’t have the need for the services they offer at this point and with them being bought by pushpay that worries me. Between our web presenter hd and Restream I have a yearly cost of $250 and the upfront cost of the web presenter at $500. If you have a decent internet connection I think Resi is overrated.
Yea if you have a stable enough connection your setup sounds great!
I Ryland! My name is Brittany Masters. I lead worship in Chouteau, OK. I have a few questions - Looking to add a second camera to our Livestream. I am against the PZT cameras as well, but have very little camera knowledge. Do you have any unmanned cameras? We only have one camera man right now, but our livestream looks so boring, lol. Thanks
Great video, but why you are not for PTZ camera for this scenario?
Image quality.
Hi, thanks for the great vid. I appreciate your channel very much.
I'm just wondering how you matched the cameras? We are still figuring out how to match our GH5s and GH4. Tried different settings with the color profiles, but there are still very noticeable differences.
All our cameras are currently on portrait, 1/60 f2.8 or better. White balance at 4500k
@Ryland great installation ! What is that stand for the roaming cam once it's at the tech booth ? We need something like this.
We just attached another high hat riser to the wood box. It’s ok but still gets vibrations from people in the booth. The pan bar is just a piece of conduit I cut and attached 😀
Thanks for the video Ryland! Out of all your cameras, If i wanted to add maybe two cameras that i can pick up used for a good price what would be your recommendation? Maybe a wide shot camera, and a roaming or side shot? Thanks!
Hey Tim! What is your budget?
@@RylandRussell maybe $1000 for two cameras? i might have some lenses from different cameras.
@@timjohnson3060 for that budget you are looking for used g7 or Gh4 on marketplace or ebay. Roaming wireless setup would eat into a lot of that budget alone. For sure get good glass.
@@RylandRussell Thanks Ryland! Found a G7 for a good price. Can they natively output 1080 29.97 or do you have to run them through a decemator? Thanks man!
I may have missed it, but do you have a tutorial on how to hook up the ATEM for livestream, in person screens, and the computer with Pro Presenter? Looking for a good resource to help put all the pieces together.
Hey Russell, why do you not recommend PTZ CAMERAS cause we are going to get a couple for are livestream?
I’ve been unimpressed by their image quality. Also, for most churches having a camera that can be taken and used other places (interviews, location filming, etc) is very valuable. I can’t justify spending 5k to get a really good ptz and it be locked down to one job.
Hello. Love your setup. We have the same cameras. Is it possible to get your camera settings. We are in an auditorium and cameras are about 65 ft away also! Thanks in advance
Natural profile. 2.8 at 60 shutter. Iso 640 usually for our lighting.
@@RylandRussell I just got the Dvx200. Is that good also for that camera
Blessing to you!! Thank you!!
Hey Ryland, what projector model are you using for the big main screen? I ask because I’m trying to nail down what features are needed to eliminate flickering when using cmos sensors. We’re about due to start replacing our projector (10 years old) and it looks like you don’t have the issue we have.
Panasonic PT-MZ670LU with shorter throw lens. Flickering with projectors is t something I’ve heard too much about. LED wall ya.
4:22 Don’t get a PTZ cam, just don’t 😂 why not 😂😂❤
After using the web presenter hd what are your thoughts? I have it in the budget for the live stream next year.
Just depends on if you are thinking about getting a new atem. If not then ya it’s great. If getting a new switcher might as well use the built in encoder maybe. We have really liked ours.
Can you confirm that G7 can easily switch HDMI output resolution/framerate just like GH4/GH5 can? Because I got a GH3 hoping it can do the same, but found out it is only outputing through HDMI an interlaced signal at 50fps no matter what shooting resolution/framerate I set. Now I'm looking to get a decimator to bring the framerate to a usable one and am afraid to make the same mistake with G7 in case it does the same. In your original video you mentioned that you are using decimators to bring the framerates to the same standard. In this video you only mention you are using decimators for computers. So, can you confirm that G7 has a changeable HDMi output framerate without a need for decimator. As long as we can get a progressive output at 25 or 30fps we're fine.
We output 1080p at 29.97 with three different g7 cams no problem.
If you use the second ATEM aux to do IMAG, you cannot pick which camera to show up on projector, right?
I wouldnt use this setup for IMAG. By sending your first camera feed into the second atem you are adding latency. If needing true IMAG I’d go one switcher.
How are you running the SDI cable to your switcher from the front & center slider?
Our pipe comes up under the front middle of the stage. We have a line taped down between the stairs and the box.
What do you put your roaming camera on and does it follow on its own or does it have to be manned?
I'm having an issue getting the DVX200 to output 1080p 29.97 with the ATEM TV Studio HD. Works fine at 59.94. Any chance you could share your settings for outputting at 1080p 29.97? I just keep getting a blank screen on the ATEM just with this camera.
Weird! I can look but it’s been years now since I set the outputs up. Might be in some menu setting about hdmi output.
@@RylandRussell Thanks, yeah I went through the menu several times and thought I had changed everything, but still blank, I remembered this video you posted, so went back to confirm it worked fo you. It's been running on 1080i 59.94 for a while, but I just located another camera to add into the mix and 1080p 29.97 seems to be what all of the cameras can "agree" on. If you think of an obscure setting I might have missed, let me know. 🙂
@@RylandRussell Quick question which may (or may not) lead to the answer... are you outputting the signal via HDMI or SDI? I'm running it via SDI.
Any suggestions on an alternative to the DVX200 since it’s discontinued?
If you want MFT sensor with servo ability and sdi output I'd probably go ahead and look at the BM Studio Pro G2 bhpho.to/45YUNy8 and pair it with the zoom demand and the Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 45-175mm f/4-5.6 ASPH lens. The dvx200 is at f4.5 once you get past 80mm so the 5.6 is not too terribly past that. 45 is not very wide though.
@@RylandRussell Great suggestion. There’s some used DVX200s I found, too, which might be good options.
Do the Panasonic dslr cameras display cut off when you plug in the hdmi cable, like the Canon dslr? I have to use a external monitor with that camera.
They do not do that. And the only one with limitations is the g7. You cannot record onto the sd card and output over hdmi simultaneously on it. The rest of the ones I mentioned have no limits.
Other than the Panasonic dvx 200, what other traditional style Panasonic camcorder (4k) would you recommend for a church set up?
Hmmm I haven’t used any of the other ones so I can’t really say.
Panasonic ac-ac 160, ac-ag 130, ac-ag 90 these are 1080P but produce wonderful videos, even the old hmc150 does good job
Would there be a way for you to add the cameras and other stuff to the description?
Hey Brian, I did list them in the description. I didn’t do links as I’m not an affiliate yet.
@@RylandRussell Didn't see it at first. Thanks for your show.
Thank you first and foremost for serving the Lord Jesus and other brethren. I may ask for a genuine consultation before I purchase 3- 4k PTZ cameras and OBS on a Dell Alienware (streaming) on NDI. Thanks and to God be the glory.
Thanks Danny! I do consulting tidycal.com/rylandrussell
Are the Panasonic cameras able to output 1080p/29.97 natively? (Since I too have the ATEM TVS HD, which is really picky about input formats)
Yep! That's what we do. I've also had them in other framerates as well.
@@RylandRussell Have you ever had issues where the camera will flicker on and off on the switcher? We've been having a lot of issues with our setup, which is nearly identical to yours. We're using GH5 and G85 cameras all using blackmagic micro converters. It's been really frustrating, and I'm not sure what else to do
Do you use a drum shield?
Nope!
Bro. Audio?
ruclips.net/video/RepR0URTcgU/видео.html I did a separate vid on it.
Whose here in 2024?