I did this a few years ago, actually demoed an early version of slide draw. but we just used propresenter and some software on a Mac called UPDD that would turn touches into keystrokes, I set it up so one finger touch was space bar and two finger touch was back arrow, worked super well since our pastor didn't ever draw on his slides. I actually had the computer in the back and used a USB over ethernet extender and HDMI over Ethernet extender to run everything, it worked pretty smoothly!
@@RylandRussell I don’t really use the setup much anymore, we have a new senior pastor now and he hasn’t expressed his much interest in using it, I kinda wanna get it working with slide draw now and see if he wants it as an option
So... what you're saying is "It can be done!" You knew what would happen if you posted this video. Looks like I'm getting a touchscreen TV finally! Let's Go!
Could you expand on how the touch interface works? I see in the TV description that the TV is multi-touch enabled, but there was mention about needing a USB dongle. What is that and how does that interface with the Mac?
Please help me understand, how many computers are used here? only 1 behind the TV, or the guy in the tech booth has another computer too? if so, how are the two connected to the same tv? Another question is how is the tv able to become an input for the side screen?
Awesome info! Thanks COTM. I use a teaching TV and would love the ability to do this. Any idea what font they were using for the text on the screen? Also, any idea if the controls at the bottom can switched to the other side? I would want to use my right hand with the "prev/next" controls on the left side of the TV.
@@ryanvernon4731 they use Neue Haas Grotesk Display Pro. I don’t see a way to change which side the “next” button is on. You can download the software for free and play around with it.
You’re welcome! Unfortunately with Slide Draw you can’t change the location of the items. It’s a very simple app, but there are others out there that may fit your needs. We tried out at least a dozen before landing on this.
Hey Russell I just want to understand something. Did he say that they plug in USB that enables the tv to do touch screen? What software is in the USB to enable the screen to work as touchscreen? I’m so confused 😂
I believe the usb makes the TV be able to be seen as a mouse. Maybe I can get clarity on that. Key is that the TV's brains/software is doing the heavy lifting when it comes to the touch capabilities.
If you were able to get more clarity on this that would be great! Seemed a little vague as to what actually allows the touch capability. Would really love to know what is needed in order to make the Mac touch screen capable!
The touchscreen capability is being driven by a USB A-B cable. Think of it as a mouse. The TV has a touchscreen USB connect for touchscreen capability.
If you have a question, drop them in the comment section and we will...which i did, 2 weeks ago. I just wanted to know how many computers are used for this setup, only 1 behind the tv, or there is another 1 in the booth? how is the image distributed to the side screens?
@@RoiSamagoue the Mac mini on the back of the tv is the computer sending the graphics to the touch screen tv. Then any computer can be used to remote into the Mac if it is on the network to manage the slide content remotely.
IM a little confused How does the dummy HDMI work? And Is the Mac mini behind there just receiving the screen sharing from the booth so the main program is in the booth? and how do they do a slide switch while live?
Someone can correct if I’m wrong, but I think the headless (dummy) HDMI is essentially telling the Mac that there’s another display connected, just not actually going to a physical monitor. But this allows them to make that dummy display the operator view (while the TV functions as the secondary output), which then allows them to remote access the operator screen. Seems to me that the software is running on the Mac mini behind the TV, and they’re just remote accessing that Mac. If by live slide switch you mean swapping out slides, I would assume they’re not changing anything live because any slide changes would come from the communicator that weekend, and you wouldn’t make adjustments to their slides while they’re actively on stage utilizing them.
@@rhinobart This is correct from my understanding. Possibly the dummy headless hdmi is mirroring the main operating display so they can make changes. The Mac Mini on the back of the TV is what is sending the graphics via HDMI to the TV. Then they remote into it to load in graphics onto the software that is running on it.
Which is why having an "A-Type" Pastor is essential for something like this... They preach like AI robots, very systematic, but have just the right amount of charm and charisma! 😅
I use these NEC touch screen TVs at work, (I work at a university) our instructors absolutely love them.
I did this a few years ago, actually demoed an early version of slide draw. but we just used propresenter and some software on a Mac called UPDD that would turn touches into keystrokes, I set it up so one finger touch was space bar and two finger touch was back arrow, worked super well since our pastor didn't ever draw on his slides. I actually had the computer in the back and used a USB over ethernet extender and HDMI over Ethernet extender to run everything, it worked pretty smoothly!
@@EMACproductions123 nice! What are you using now?
@@RylandRussell I don’t really use the setup much anymore, we have a new senior pastor now and he hasn’t expressed his much interest in using it, I kinda wanna get it working with slide draw now and see if he wants it as an option
So... what you're saying is "It can be done!" You knew what would happen if you posted this video. Looks like I'm getting a touchscreen TV finally! Let's Go!
You'll just need to have a bake sale to raise the 5k. 🎂🤑
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Could you expand on how the touch interface works? I see in the TV description that the TV is multi-touch enabled, but there was mention about needing a USB dongle. What is that and how does that interface with the Mac?
Please help me understand, how many computers are used here? only 1 behind the TV, or the guy in the tech booth has another computer too? if so, how are the two connected to the same tv? Another question is how is the tv able to become an input for the side screen?
Doesnt elevation do this at their campus as well?
Awesome info! Thanks COTM. I use a teaching TV and would love the ability to do this. Any idea what font they were using for the text on the screen? Also, any idea if the controls at the bottom can switched to the other side? I would want to use my right hand with the "prev/next" controls on the left side of the TV.
@@ryanvernon4731 they use Neue Haas Grotesk Display Pro. I don’t see a way to change which side the “next” button is on. You can download the software for free and play around with it.
You’re welcome! Unfortunately with Slide Draw you can’t change the location of the items. It’s a very simple app, but there are others out there that may fit your needs. We tried out at least a dozen before landing on this.
@@johnathanbasquez do you mind sharing some of the ones you tried? I am tech director for Ryan above so wanting to do some testing ourselves.
$4,000-$5,000 is a lot!
11:38 which app do you use to control the mac?
Does the tv come with touch capacity?
Hey Russell I just want to understand something. Did he say that they plug in USB that enables the tv to do touch screen? What software is in the USB to enable the screen to work as touchscreen? I’m so confused 😂
I believe the usb makes the TV be able to be seen as a mouse. Maybe I can get clarity on that. Key is that the TV's brains/software is doing the heavy lifting when it comes to the touch capabilities.
@@RylandRussellthank you
If you were able to get more clarity on this that would be great! Seemed a little vague as to what actually allows the touch capability. Would really love to know what is needed in order to make the Mac touch screen capable!
The touchscreen capability is being driven by a USB A-B cable. Think of it as a mouse. The TV has a touchscreen USB connect for touchscreen capability.
If you have a question, drop them in the comment section and we will...which i did, 2 weeks ago. I just wanted to know how many computers are used for this setup, only 1 behind the tv, or there is another 1 in the booth? how is the image distributed to the side screens?
@@RoiSamagoue the Mac mini on the back of the tv is the computer sending the graphics to the touch screen tv. Then any computer can be used to remote into the Mac if it is on the network to manage the slide content remotely.
@@RylandRussell Thanks, I will send you an email if that is ok, we have the same equipment (Sharp NEC CB651Q-2) and just a bit confused. Again thanks
IM a little confused How does the dummy HDMI work? And Is the Mac mini behind there just receiving the screen sharing from the booth so the main program is in the booth? and how do they do a slide switch while live?
Someone can correct if I’m wrong, but I think the headless (dummy) HDMI is essentially telling the Mac that there’s another display connected, just not actually going to a physical monitor. But this allows them to make that dummy display the operator view (while the TV functions as the secondary output), which then allows them to remote access the operator screen.
Seems to me that the software is running on the Mac mini behind the TV, and they’re just remote accessing that Mac. If by live slide switch you mean swapping out slides, I would assume they’re not changing anything live because any slide changes would come from the communicator that weekend, and you wouldn’t make adjustments to their slides while they’re actively on stage utilizing them.
@@rhinobart This is correct from my understanding. Possibly the dummy headless hdmi is mirroring the main operating display so they can make changes. The Mac Mini on the back of the TV is what is sending the graphics via HDMI to the TV. Then they remote into it to load in graphics onto the software that is running on it.
What are the wheels?
@@rickbird8796 Colson Performa with Total lock on the back 2 wheels
@RylandRussell great! Thanks!
Typical charismatic church!!!!
01:22 - looks like a bit of text ghosting on the TV…
@@jonathanfleck5419 ya I didn’t see it in person, but I noticed it in the edit as well. 🤷♂️
really cool, but giving control to pastors can be a scary thing they may go down too many rabbit holes and increase sermon. time. Hahahaha
Which is why having an "A-Type" Pastor is essential for something like this... They preach like AI robots, very systematic, but have just the right amount of charm and charisma! 😅
…Cool. Those cost about $10,000, right??
They covered cost in the video… they said it was $4-5k all in.
The tv is linked in the description it’s around $1800.