Our pastor has a background in music and mixing and technology. He has a specific sound he likes and tweaks accordingly. 90% or mixing is done by the FOH operator. 👍🏻
My pastor comes to adjust his mic when we were still on Yamaha Analogue 32 channels mixer, which is after engineer has set it but now we are using digital, he doesn't know about that one, he only request for any changes he wants. 😂
So while i understand the sentiment behind letting guitarist using church equipment, i would argue that if all my engineer is doing is balancing vocals, gain structure, and eqing on Sundays then he has the time to mix a guitar. You may even get better tones assuming the player is at home focusing on one instrument vs the buffet model your speaking of.
That’s a great point! We’re actually in the process of allowing our guitar guys to come in and design stuff. Our main focus is that we are communicating about changes so that way we’re better prepared.
Hey Dariel! Killer setup man! Loved watching this video. Question about AVoIP. What is the limitation for how many videos you can send on the network at once? I'm assuming on a traditional 1gb network with uncompressed 4k video that would get eaten up pretty quickly. Does NDI compress the video before it goes over the network? Or did you guys upgrade to a 10gb network?
Thank you for the video Churchfront and Dariel! I got a couple questions: What is your pixel pitch for your LED screen? And how did you grow the technology at your Church? How did you get visions of having all of this different technology (like the AVoIP suite) Finally, how do you present to the leadership team about buying the tech? It all seems very expensive lol
@@jordan9266 thank you! 1. 2.9 mm pixel pitch. 2. This is over a 15 year journey that has gotten us to this point. So step by step. 3. We view our entire live production facility as a marketing expense. Over 50% of the people that come into our church watch us online for a period of time before stepping through the door. We also lease our equipment which helps with not losing a lot of capital every 5 years or so.
Very cool to see this. I first met the crew at Experience 15 years ago when I started volunteering in audio at my own church. They've been great friends of ours. I've learned a lot personally from Pastor Dennis Cummins. These guys have been pushing the envelope of church tech for a long time now.
Sweet video!! Would love to really see some more videos on the networking side of church AV. I have a dante network at my church, but would love to dig into NDI and stacking these tools together in addition to others. Just would really love to see how to setup some of these network rich setups and eliminating the need for hardware directly attached to the computer.
With the remote feature in Playback, you can connect your playback machine thru Dante and use the iPad as the remote to trigger. It's helped so much where I'm at now
If you're a gear nerd and attend this church, you're definitely going to light up. Back then, churches budgets were more on design. Now, there's a bulk on tech. Definitely allows the church to communicate better.
Dariel Brother, An awesome man and Amazing Oldest Son of Pastor Dennis. Loved this informative video!! From Nepal!! I have met your Father in leaders Conference here in Nepal
Thank you… I was starting to think that my preference for broadcast-style EFP cameras over DSLR was just because I’m getting old. 🙂 As you say, the form factor of having zoom/focus demand where your hands already are combined with being able to switch quickly between shoulder and sticks seems like a no-brainer to me.
I agree but only for small churches like mine.....less than 200 ppl. But bigger churches ...not even megachurches buy just bigger.....there are a lot of moving parts and there is a genuine need to minimize potential issues. If that means house instruments / rigs, I think that makes sense. 💯👍🏻
I hear ya@@RezMusicMan. Fortunately, I'm blessed to go to a church with great sound techs who do an excellent job working with a variety of us playing our own gear. I can understand the few managers/music directors out there who don't allow this, and I am very blessed not to volunteer under them:)
i'm guessing this strategy would be implemented because whoever is doing foh is a volunteer that doesn't know how to eq. that being said, genuine question for you: would you rather use the house guitar rig that sounds good and has been dialed in by the worship leader / production director, or would you rather use your own rig and risk it sounding like booty because the foh volunteer doesn't know how to change it?
@@mikehines14 100%. Gain staging, eq, comp attack and release time tweaks, waves plugins, none of that is not for volunteers. It's an unavoidable environmental constraint. Availability comes before ability.
@darielcummins, do you have dedicated VLANs for NDI and dante? Did you have to configure multicast routing and/or IGMP snooping to get them to work well? Do you use NDI with multicast or unicast? I noticed that Propresenter seems to only do unicast NDI, so I was wondering how you make sure you have enough bandwidth on your network to handle all the streams.
I'm also interested in your network setup. I heard you mention unifi. Are you using unifi switches? We currently run NDI and Dante on separate vLans. I'm curious as to how you have the switches configured as there is not much on the web supporting ubiquiti in this scenerio.
Fabulous video.... I sent a link to my pastor..He wants to get into higher quality online videos and audio and the famous IN-EAR system. He likes the challenge of this high tech approach. I enjoyed the reference to BROADCAST cameras. THE ONLY way to top notch video. My pastor can probably try for a camera system a little less than broadcast. We're using a single camera in the back of the church and very poor lighting. It's gonna take a while to gather $$$$$
Rumor had it, Church front is still compiling "link in description". On a serious note, this is impressive. There's so much negativity around NDI and Dante. But a very important point was made! You have to be willing to upgrade an existing network to handle the large amount of data traversing and competing for bandwidth.
How do you separate Dant audio and NDI on your network? Are you using NDI and Dante on the back of your TC2 as well? Good job on setting up everything. I know from experience those two don't like each other.
We use them for ProPresenter or Logic. We like them because the network latency on the Mac Mini is quick. Latency and bandwidth are the main things to consider for NDI and DANTE.
There was no power off option for the wall, besides strictly unplugging it from the outlets. So we would just leave the LED wall on with no signal. Going to it during the week.
@@Darielcummins I see. We have a similar led wall ourselves the size in the video. We currently send no video to it when not in use and we have been having issues with part of panels going out. So I will suggest unplugging it to see if we start see less panel issues. I will most likely reference back to this video as to why.
Can I ask what was the total cost for sound and video and how long did it take to set everything from the stage to all control rooms etc ?? A great video and I’m so jealous that my church doesn’t even have a digital desk !! Live streaming for my church has been a volume problem!! The worship band sounds great but the preaching microphones are very low and hard to hear!! Blessings to all 🙏
Thank you! We lease all of our equipment. Technology has a limited life span. So instead of upping a lot of cash and capital, we budget for it as a monthly expense. It helps us to budget monthly for stuff than to give up a lot of cash / capital.
Heck yea! At long last, a church AV personnel who thinks like a broadcast engineer. Church service isn't a music concert. Now that's what I'm talking about.
I as a tech director and guitar player would be very frustrated to play a "house" varilax or whatever he said guitar and board. Im not saying amps, but even my own patches on HX stomp with my veritas or fender would sound much better..... Also being confortable. Imagine going home and practicing on my 4 string bass just to have to go to church and play a 5 string... Build relationships... work with people to get their sound consistent.... train your sound techs.
Training the audio engineer is key. Having to make all instrumentalists play through the same rig (doesn't matter if they bring their own guitar) because 60 seconds can't be spent quickly EQ'ing different rigs combined with the pastor making their own changes on the front row with their device is the biggest red flag of untrained engineers. If the pastor has a sound he wants, get that trained into the engineers. If you want a specific realm of EG and bass sound, train the engineers.
The only thing that has been left out of this video is the Networking part (in Detail). Since most of them are using NDI, that network part is a big factor. You will pretty much run out of bandwidth if you don't have a robust network. Although they showed it at the last part, but it was just a glimpse. Overall, nice vid though.
Exactly!! Long story short: All UniFi being connected at 10G speeds for max bandwidth. Since most of the traffic passes through the TriCaster, we have a special 10G switch for the TriCaster connection so there’s no bottlenecks. Mostly every other device is connected at 1 gig.
@@Darielcummins Do you VLAN your dante separate from the NDI? I know there's many settings changes I had to make on my cisco dante switches. I'm assuming similar but different settings would be made for the NDI as well. How many NDI signals can you pack into one 1gb line?
@@solusfides How you configure VLAN is up to how you want to run everything. Our VLAN includes both NDI and Dante, but that's because so many devices utilize both. I believe VIZRT recommends that you use a separate VLAN and network card for Dante so that it doesn't affect the switcher, but if you have 10G NIC (network card) on the switcher (it's standard on the TC2), and a 10G switch that is connected, you shouldn't have a problem. Also, your NIC needs to be some what fast. We were using refurbished HPs originally for all of our Pro Presenters and we were experiencing latency issues, specifically with DANTE. As soon as we switch to the Mac Mini M2, it was fixed. As per NDI channels on a 1GB NIC, I'm utilizing 4 NDI channels on my lyrics Mac. From my research on NDI (and I may be wrong or mixed up with NDI HX), it sends out a "proxy" resolution which is downscaled to save on bandwidth. Once it is selected to "go live" it will send the full signal. So during worship, we're utilizing 3+ full stream NDI feeds at 1080p, 59.94fps. You'd have to check the white papers on the actual data rate, but I want to say it's about 120MBPS per stream, so 360MBPS all together. Sorry for all the technical info. If you want to message me directly on Social Media, we can chat more technical stuff and help answer and questions that you may have.
Why all the cables on cameras didn't grip on camera body or tripod? Despite it all makes a big mess, it also causes change weight balance of the camera.
This is so sad that anyone thinks this tech is necessary. Church's have been around forever and didn't need all of this. What almost brings a tear to me is that at no time during this entire interview did anyone ever mention the reason for any of this, CHRIST. Church funds should never ever be used to fuel anyone's addiction to geek out. You want this stuff buy it yourself.
we have a couple, still working on implementing ups… but we have a very stable power grid too. The power has only gone out twice in the 3 years I have been there.
A couple things, and not throwing shade or anything, just things that stood out to me. One was the house instruments and not allowing your musicians to bring their own gear. This says to me you don’t trust your musicians to use sounds that work with the songs you play, or you don’t trust your audio engineer to know how to mix well when instruments are changed.
The money used for the tech is a fraction of what goes towards the community. If they didn’t give money to community, they could’ve gone 1000s more times elaborate with tech. I believe this church leases most of their production equipment as well, so they aren’t buying this tech.
Without a livestream they may lose a lot of money in donations they put towards the community. Would your rather have the homeless be given $400 from a small church with no livestream and 100 people on a good day or be given $20,000-$50,000 every couple of months or years along with helping build shelters overseas? Online is the way to reach large numbers now without it a message won’t reach as many people. The more views you get the better quality you need to broadcast. Also aren’t Christians supposed to be doing everything with excellence? I can tell you I run media at a micro church and the micro church livestream setup is probably around $15,000-$20,000 if broke down everything there. But it’s a VERY small church get a bigger church everything can grow. BUT the amount of money from offerings that went to that probably like $200 over the course of 10 years and that $200 or so was specifically donated for that. “Where did the rest come from?” You may ask. I paid for a good amount of it myself because that’s part of my offering I’m a media professional and definitely not good at public speaking or sharing the word at all so for me this is me serving and sharing the work from people who are better at that than me while I may be better at tech and media than the preachers. The same how people donate to missionaries to fly across the world and preach because their daily lives or personal gifts aren’t strong in that way for them to fly out there others may donate and support livestreams which is the same thing.
He said they used an ursa before. Cheaper camera. But the sdi kept failing. That costs money. Buy the right tool only need to spend it once ever so often
The dynamics of church is definitely evolving for better production and reaching communities on social platforms. Money spent this way helps to reach regions beyond foot travel. So rethink your thought on this subject. We do both media and foot work with a Highway and Hedges ministry but the local municipalities won’t fund it from our tax dollars.
@@Marlonm337 you can have the same reach with a $10 tripod to put someone’s phone on and a $5 cable from the existing sound system needed to amplify for the space. The other pile of thousands of dollars can then go to help the homeless and needy. It’s gotten to a point of far beyond excess. Absolutely no church needs this or should have it. It’s completely counter to the mission. Y’all have gotten caught up in an expensive flashy tech war and lost sight of what actually matters.
This is not a church anymore! Imagine how many souls you could help with the money invested in this high tech ! I wonder if the people coming to this place are driving Ferrari as a commuting car.
Pastor mixing from the tablet while the engineer is mixing really upset something in my spirit 😂
Our pastor has a background in music and mixing and technology. He has a specific sound he likes and tweaks accordingly. 90% or mixing is done by the FOH operator. 👍🏻
My pastor comes to adjust his mic when we were still on Yamaha Analogue 32 channels mixer, which is after engineer has set it but now we are using digital, he doesn't know about that one, he only request for any changes he wants. 😂
52:26 "I won't get into the weeds on NDI". Yes please do!! I'd watch a whole video on it!!
As an intern here. It’s amazing what we accomplish here and I’m grateful to be apart of mission we have for Puyallup.
Jayden! Get back to work 😉😂😂
So while i understand the sentiment behind letting guitarist using church equipment, i would argue that if all my engineer is doing is balancing vocals, gain structure, and eqing on Sundays then he has the time to mix a guitar. You may even get better tones assuming the player is at home focusing on one instrument vs the buffet model your speaking of.
That’s a great point! We’re actually in the process of allowing our guitar guys to come in and design stuff. Our main focus is that we are communicating about changes so that way we’re better prepared.
I would hate to use house gear..wouldn’t work for me
Yeah. He misspoke a little. They use their own guitar and base but we use the same pedal boards so we have the same gains and patches.
@@mf4361 see the comment below by our pastor… we use our own instruments.
Loved working with Jake and the church front crew! AVoIP has been a huge help for us in reaching more people for Jesus.
I’ve been hoping to come over and get a tour but I guess this will do for now! Haha Great work Dariel.
Stop on by! It’s not like you live far away 😂
Hey Dariel! Killer setup man! Loved watching this video. Question about AVoIP. What is the limitation for how many videos you can send on the network at once? I'm assuming on a traditional 1gb network with uncompressed 4k video that would get eaten up pretty quickly. Does NDI compress the video before it goes over the network? Or did you guys upgrade to a 10gb network?
Thank you for the video Churchfront and Dariel! I got a couple questions:
What is your pixel pitch for your LED screen?
And how did you grow the technology at your Church? How did you get visions of having all of this different technology (like the AVoIP suite)
Finally, how do you present to the leadership team about buying the tech? It all seems very expensive lol
@@jordan9266 thank you!
1. 2.9 mm pixel pitch.
2. This is over a 15 year journey that has gotten us to this point. So step by step.
3. We view our entire live production facility as a marketing expense. Over 50% of the people that come into our church watch us online for a period of time before stepping through the door. We also lease our equipment which helps with not losing a lot of capital every 5 years or so.
Very cool to see this. I first met the crew at Experience 15 years ago when I started volunteering in audio at my own church. They've been great friends of ours. I've learned a lot personally from Pastor Dennis Cummins. These guys have been pushing the envelope of church tech for a long time now.
Sweet video!! Would love to really see some more videos on the networking side of church AV. I have a dante network at my church, but would love to dig into NDI and stacking these tools together in addition to others. Just would really love to see how to setup some of these network rich setups and eliminating the need for hardware directly attached to the computer.
Cool to see a tour of a church in the northwest!
With the remote feature in Playback, you can connect your playback machine thru Dante and use the iPad as the remote to trigger. It's helped so much where I'm at now
If you're a gear nerd and attend this church, you're definitely going to light up. Back then, churches budgets were more on design. Now, there's a bulk on tech. Definitely allows the church to communicate better.
Wow! Bluelite! I have a Bluelite X1 Mini. Nice to hear they're still in use in the field!
Dariel Brother, An awesome man and Amazing Oldest Son of Pastor Dennis.
Loved this informative video!! From Nepal!! I have met your Father in leaders Conference here in Nepal
Great Information!
21:22 you run only 3 Lines to the Wall? So no Backup Cabling? The Novastar should have enough outputs afaik....
12:48 the interface that he’s using… iConnect?
Correct. We’re upgrading to their new box with 12 xlr out.
Thank you… I was starting to think that my preference for broadcast-style EFP cameras over DSLR was just because I’m getting old. 🙂 As you say, the form factor of having zoom/focus demand where your hands already are combined with being able to switch quickly between shoulder and sticks seems like a no-brainer to me.
Great ppl, great team, great budget
As an electric guitarist, I don't even need to speak for you to know exactly how I feel about using a house rig.
I agree but only for small churches like mine.....less than 200 ppl.
But bigger churches
...not even megachurches buy just bigger.....there are a lot of moving parts and there is a genuine need to minimize potential issues. If that means house instruments / rigs, I think that makes sense. 💯👍🏻
I hear ya@@RezMusicMan. Fortunately, I'm blessed to go to a church with great sound techs who do an excellent job working with a variety of us playing our own gear. I can understand the few managers/music directors out there who don't allow this, and I am very blessed not to volunteer under them:)
@@RezMusicManwe actually use our own guitars. But run it through the house effects rigs
i'm guessing this strategy would be implemented because whoever is doing foh is a volunteer that doesn't know how to eq. that being said, genuine question for you: would you rather use the house guitar rig that sounds good and has been dialed in by the worship leader / production director, or would you rather use your own rig and risk it sounding like booty because the foh volunteer doesn't know how to change it?
@@mikehines14 100%. Gain staging, eq, comp attack and release time tweaks, waves plugins, none of that is not for volunteers. It's an unavoidable environmental constraint. Availability comes before ability.
very impressive.I have learnt a lot.
@darielcummins, do you have dedicated VLANs for NDI and dante? Did you have to configure multicast routing and/or IGMP snooping to get them to work well?
Do you use NDI with multicast or unicast? I noticed that Propresenter seems to only do unicast NDI, so I was wondering how you make sure you have enough bandwidth on your network to handle all the streams.
I'm also interested in your network setup. I heard you mention unifi. Are you using unifi switches? We currently run NDI and Dante on separate vLans. I'm curious as to how you have the switches configured as there is not much on the web supporting ubiquiti in this scenerio.
thx for this vid - it was really interesting 🤩
11:40 I know that bgh1's video out has bit a latency. Isn’t it inconvenient to use IMAG?
Fabulous video.... I sent a link to my pastor..He wants to get into higher quality online videos and audio and the famous IN-EAR system. He likes the challenge of this high tech approach. I enjoyed the reference to BROADCAST cameras. THE ONLY way to top notch video. My pastor can probably try for a camera system a little less than broadcast. We're using a single camera in the back of the church and very poor lighting. It's gonna take a while to gather $$$$$
24:22 Where's the monitor on the camera? Or is that camera always a fixed wide shot?
That specific camera uses a viewfinder, which can flip open to a tiny monitor.
@darrielcummins where did you all get that platform for the stage from? 39:02
We built it ourself.
Rumor had it, Church front is still compiling "link in description".
On a serious note, this is impressive. There's so much negativity around NDI and Dante.
But a very important point was made! You have to be willing to upgrade an existing network to handle the large amount of data traversing and competing for bandwidth.
How do you separate Dant audio and NDI on your network? Are you using NDI and Dante on the back of your TC2 as well? Good job on setting up everything. I know from experience those two don't like each other.
We’re using them in parallel together. So there’s a VLAN that both NDI and Dante work on. So far, not many problems.
7:38 Dariel, what kind of sub did you use for this setup?
Honestly, it’s just an Amazon speaker drilled to the platform.
as the primary bass player currently, I can tell you it’s the closest non-amp setup to the real thing.
Please, can you tell us the exact model of the battery and kit? Thank you
@Darielcummins You had a handful of other mac mini stations in your production rooms. What are the other positions you have your team serving on?
We use them for ProPresenter or Logic. We like them because the network latency on the Mac Mini is quick. Latency and bandwidth are the main things to consider for NDI and DANTE.
For the led wall did he mean no video going to the wall it still got hot causing issues or like a video was left on it?
There was no power off option for the wall, besides strictly unplugging it from the outlets. So we would just leave the LED wall on with no signal. Going to it during the week.
@@Darielcummins I see. We have a similar led wall ourselves the size in the video. We currently send no video to it when not in use and we have been having issues with part of panels going out. So I will suggest unplugging it to see if we start see less panel issues. I will most likely reference back to this video as to why.
Can I ask what was the total cost for sound and video and how long did it take to set everything from the stage to all control rooms etc ??
A great video and I’m so jealous that my church doesn’t even have a digital desk !!
Live streaming for my church has been a volume problem!! The worship band sounds great but the preaching microphones are very low and hard to hear!!
Blessings to all 🙏
Thank you! We lease all of our equipment. Technology has a limited life span. So instead of upping a lot of cash and capital, we budget for it as a monthly expense. It helps us to budget monthly for stuff than to give up a lot of cash / capital.
What avion unit u r using? And the lens for that panasonic bgh1
We use the A320, and D800 Dante. Lenses are a Rokinon 14mm
Heck yea! At long last, a church AV personnel who thinks like a broadcast engineer. Church service isn't a music concert. Now that's what I'm talking about.
Thank you 🙌🏻🙌🏻
I as a tech director and guitar player would be very frustrated to play a "house" varilax or whatever he said guitar and board. Im not saying amps, but even my own patches on HX stomp with my veritas or fender would sound much better..... Also being confortable. Imagine going home and practicing on my 4 string bass just to have to go to church and play a 5 string... Build relationships... work with people to get their sound consistent.... train your sound techs.
He miss spoke. It’s house footboards. They play their own guitars. 👍
@@denniscummins8241 sounds good. as long as there is room for team development and dialogue about tone and patches. all about team
That’s correct, we use house footboards, so my bad.
Training the audio engineer is key. Having to make all instrumentalists play through the same rig (doesn't matter if they bring their own guitar) because 60 seconds can't be spent quickly EQ'ing different rigs combined with the pastor making their own changes on the front row with their device is the biggest red flag of untrained engineers. If the pastor has a sound he wants, get that trained into the engineers. If you want a specific realm of EG and bass sound, train the engineers.
amazing Setup and Church :)
What make electric standing desks have ye here in the church?
Costco or Amazon. Nothing special 😂
The only thing that has been left out of this video is the Networking part (in Detail).
Since most of them are using NDI, that network part is a big factor.
You will pretty much run out of bandwidth if you don't have a robust network.
Although they showed it at the last part, but it was just a glimpse.
Overall, nice vid though.
Yeah we’d only need another 180 minutes for the full network breakdown 😂
Exactly!! Long story short: All UniFi being connected at 10G speeds for max bandwidth. Since most of the traffic passes through the TriCaster, we have a special 10G switch for the TriCaster connection so there’s no bottlenecks. Mostly every other device is connected at 1 gig.
i ever try the small scale setup with NDI and runs out the bandwidth the cheap gigabit managed switch TP-LINK, we'll try to upgrade to unifi stacks
@@Darielcummins Do you VLAN your dante separate from the NDI? I know there's many settings changes I had to make on my cisco dante switches. I'm assuming similar but different settings would be made for the NDI as well. How many NDI signals can you pack into one 1gb line?
@@solusfides How you configure VLAN is up to how you want to run everything. Our VLAN includes both NDI and Dante, but that's because so many devices utilize both. I believe VIZRT recommends that you use a separate VLAN and network card for Dante so that it doesn't affect the switcher, but if you have 10G NIC (network card) on the switcher (it's standard on the TC2), and a 10G switch that is connected, you shouldn't have a problem. Also, your NIC needs to be some what fast. We were using refurbished HPs originally for all of our Pro Presenters and we were experiencing latency issues, specifically with DANTE. As soon as we switch to the Mac Mini M2, it was fixed.
As per NDI channels on a 1GB NIC, I'm utilizing 4 NDI channels on my lyrics Mac. From my research on NDI (and I may be wrong or mixed up with NDI HX), it sends out a "proxy" resolution which is downscaled to save on bandwidth. Once it is selected to "go live" it will send the full signal. So during worship, we're utilizing 3+ full stream NDI feeds at 1080p, 59.94fps. You'd have to check the white papers on the actual data rate, but I want to say it's about 120MBPS per stream, so 360MBPS all together.
Sorry for all the technical info. If you want to message me directly on Social Media, we can chat more technical stuff and help answer and questions that you may have.
Does tricaster only work with NDI or does it work with Dante video also?
At this moment, I’m only aware of Dante Audio.
Tricaster is NDI, no Dante video as of now
Why all the cables on cameras didn't grip on camera body or tripod? Despite it all makes a big mess, it also causes change weight balance of the camera.
Great video!
im a little lost ngl, i understand sending video over ndi but getting it back to hmdi? each of those converters like $500
AMAZING!
what is the IMAG latency with NDI?
We are going into our IMAG with SDI, so for us, it's about 3 frames at 59.94
13:51 is the audio out of sync or is it just me?
With all the cuts, I don't think many people will notice.
So where is for black unit sound church
Wow!
I had to check the playback speed to make sure i didn't accidently speed up the sound.
This is so sad that anyone thinks this tech is necessary. Church's have been around forever and didn't need all of this.
What almost brings a tear to me is that at no time during this entire interview did anyone ever mention the reason for any of this, CHRIST.
Church funds should never ever be used to fuel anyone's addiction to geek out. You want this stuff buy it yourself.
Great theatre and organization. Not sure I heard the name God once in that entire hour. 🤷🏻♂️
Our main mission is the advancement of the gospel. Check out a service to see what I mean. 👍🏻
no UPS in any rack is so wild.
we have a couple, still working on implementing ups… but we have a very stable power grid too. The power has only gone out twice in the 3 years I have been there.
@@Samwarren1982you can tell i'm a networking guy. lol. great work
Something about this screams “we don’t trust our volunteers”
What part? 😂 I love our team and we are currently working on developing their skills to do more beyond what I can do.
A couple things, and not throwing shade or anything, just things that stood out to me. One was the house instruments and not allowing your musicians to bring their own gear. This says to me you don’t trust your musicians to use sounds that work with the songs you play, or you don’t trust your audio engineer to know how to mix well when instruments are changed.
Another is the pastor having an iPad to mix from. To me this also says you don’t trust the audio engineer
Cool technology - zero resemblance to an actual Church
no church should ever be able to afford this. Use the money to help the community. If you use it like this, they should pay the tax on it.
The money used for the tech is a fraction of what goes towards the community. If they didn’t give money to community, they could’ve gone 1000s more times elaborate with tech. I believe this church leases most of their production equipment as well, so they aren’t buying this tech.
Without a livestream they may lose a lot of money in donations they put towards the community. Would your rather have the homeless be given $400 from a small church with no livestream and 100 people on a good day or be given $20,000-$50,000 every couple of months or years along with helping build shelters overseas? Online is the way to reach large numbers now without it a message won’t reach as many people. The more views you get the better quality you need to broadcast. Also aren’t Christians supposed to be doing everything with excellence? I can tell you I run media at a micro church and the micro church livestream setup is probably around $15,000-$20,000 if broke down everything there. But it’s a VERY small church get a bigger church everything can grow. BUT the amount of money from offerings that went to that probably like $200 over the course of 10 years and that $200 or so was specifically donated for that. “Where did the rest come from?” You may ask. I paid for a good amount of it myself because that’s part of my offering I’m a media professional and definitely not good at public speaking or sharing the word at all so for me this is me serving and sharing the work from people who are better at that than me while I may be better at tech and media than the preachers. The same how people donate to missionaries to fly across the world and preach because their daily lives or personal gifts aren’t strong in that way for them to fly out there others may donate and support livestreams which is the same thing.
He said they used an ursa before. Cheaper camera. But the sdi kept failing. That costs money. Buy the right tool only need to spend it once ever so often
The dynamics of church is definitely evolving for better production and reaching communities on social platforms. Money spent this way helps to reach regions beyond foot travel. So rethink your thought on this subject. We do both media and foot work with a Highway and Hedges ministry but the local municipalities won’t fund it from our tax dollars.
@@Marlonm337 you can have the same reach with a $10 tripod to put someone’s phone on and a $5 cable from the existing sound system needed to amplify for the space. The other pile of thousands of dollars can then go to help the homeless and needy. It’s gotten to a point of far beyond excess. Absolutely no church needs this or should have it. It’s completely counter to the mission. Y’all have gotten caught up in an expensive flashy tech war and lost sight of what actually matters.
This is not a church anymore! Imagine how many souls you could help with the money invested in this high tech ! I wonder if the people coming to this place are driving Ferrari as a commuting car.
43 salvations on Easter and 19 today 🙌🏻 Technology is a tool.
@11:06 The acoustic panels where purchased like that or did you DIY them. I see so many shapes which is good to have a choice. @darielcummins
We purchase our acoustic panels at GIK Acoustics.